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Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
The last post I tried to get in was:

quote:
Rather than delete this thread, would you prefer if I delete the posts that became personal (not my opinion of the show, which I think was an appropriate post)?

In other words, we can delete the personal argument, and you can still have your thread abou the show.

In any case, I reckon it's too late for that now. But I wanted to make my post.

-o-

I hate it when threads I have posted to get deleted. I put a lot of thought into my response to you. I opened up about my own past anxieties, and my feelings about Hatrack as well. Oh, well.

-o-

And now, to give this thread a topic of its own. Tell me, Hatrack: if somebody starts a thread saying they like something, is it wrong to post in the thread that you don't? I know there are people on both sides of this issue. Can we discuss it?

Is it inappropriate for me to post in a cigar-love thread that I find ciar smoke objectionable?

Is it wrong for me to post in a Strong Bad thread that I don't find Strong Bad funny?

Clearly, I don't think so. I'm curious to know what the consensus is, and people's reasons for their beliefs.

[ April 22, 2004, 06:30 PM: Message edited by: lcarus ]
 
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
 
Hmmmmm... well I think the Mods are trying to prevent flame wars and such... keeping civility by only allowing attacks on the subject and/or idea of the post, not on the person posting it... However, I don't mind some personal criticism, such as critiquing a person's writing style or how they form their argument.

[ April 21, 2004, 02:03 PM: Message edited by: Telperion the Silver ]
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
<-- feels dumb.
which thread got deleted?
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
I love baleting threads.
 
Posted by Strong Bad (Member # 6471) on :
 
*pours glowstick in Icarus's Mountain dew*

So which thread got deleted? Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with posting an opposing opinion, just so long as it's done respectfully.
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I don't know what thread you are talking about. Don't know if it would matter if I did know. My mom always called pure contrariness "a dog in the manger". Kind of like a fly in the soup, except most flies don't get in the soup because they enjoy it.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
First, thread-deleters are evil. It shows a blatant disregard for others who have posted on the thread. I find this far more objectionable than the contents of almost any imaginable post, mainly because it's non-correctable and destructive of trust.

Second, if someone posts that they like somthing, posts from other people explaining why they don't like it seem perfectly on topic.

Dagonee
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
"the show" suggests a TV series. Was it Star Gate or Babylon 5? I think I showed great restraint in not flaming the Star Gate thread. Since it mainly came up right after I was saying how much Star Gate stinks in another thread.

P.S. If you didn't like the show, aren't you happy that the thread was deleted?

[ April 21, 2004, 02:07 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
mind if I ask what "baleted" is?
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
I don't see it as being contrary. And I am not talking about personal attacks, of which I believe I am not guilty. As I posted in the now deleted thread, I find the discussions in which I don't agree with people to be the most memorable and invigorating ones I have. So I posted in the Strong Bad thread, for example, to try to "get" why so many people seem to love Strong Bad while I don't. To try to understand the other perspective.
 
Posted by Strong Bad (Member # 6471) on :
 
Baleeted!
 
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
 
I think it entirely depends on the thread in question. If I start a thread about cigars and the tone is, "Does anyone else here like cigars? Does anyone have any favorites?", then I think it would be curmudgeonly at least, if not outright rude, to jump in if all you have to say is "I hate cigars", or other negative things. If you feel overwhelmingly unable to keep such feelings to yourself, then a more appropriate expression would be to start a thread like "Why I hate cigars".

Alternatively, if the thread was "What do you think of Cigars?" or "My Dad offered me a cigar for my 21st birthday, what do you think of that?" then it's no holds barred.
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
quote:
So which thread got deleted? Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with posting an opposing opinion, just so long as it's done respectfully.
I agree.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
I normally delete my threads when a lot of people find them objectionable.
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Icky, it can go both ways. Hmmm... it means that you have to be willing to take what appears to be and sometimes is criticism even about things that you love, and that could greatly discourage people from posting things that are sensitive and not up for grabs. If that happens, I think it would a tragic loss for Hatrack.

On the other hand, it is really possible to ask for only yeses when you start a thread.

Great. I'm on the fence.
 
Posted by Homestarrunner (Member # 5090) on :
 
Baaaaa-leted!

IMO, Homestarrunner.com is getting way too popular. I liked it much better when it was still underground. They're still funny, though.

That was the BEST video game I have EVAU played!
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I remember when I crashed the Harry Potter thread. And then everyone accused me of thinking Harry Potter is a satanist. Good times, those.
 
Posted by Mike (Member # 55) on :
 
I'm with KarlEd on this one. The thread in question was more along the lines of a fan thread than a "what do you think of" thread. So the negative comments about the show seemed a little mean-spirited (though I don't think they were intended that way).

That said, I think deleting the thread was a bit of an overreaction. But not evil. Let's reserve that term for actions that truly deserve it.
 
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
 
Also, in regard to my borrowed "Cigar" analogy above, there is a difference between posting "I hate cigars" and "What is it you find so attractive about cigars?" in a clearly "cigar-love" type thread. I think the second question would be perfectly fine in that case while I still the first would come across as a little rude and trollish.

Not every thread is posted for controversy or to solicit arguement. For example, if someone started posting "Homosexuality is a sin" or even "Gay marriage should be banned because . . ." stuff in my "Field Guide" thread, I'd be pretty offended.
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
Are you perhaps confusing my comments with fallow's, which were, imo, harsher?

Or have I been accused of being mean-spirited twice in one day now?

Maybe I just don't vibrate in the same frequency as this place anymore.

[Frown] [Dont Know] [Frown]
 
Posted by Strong Bad (Member # 6471) on :
 
I'm still trying to figure out which thread got deleted.
 
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
 
My comments are totally "in general". I don't have any opinion about the specific thread in question.
 
Posted by Trogdor the Burninator (Member # 4894) on :
 
Oh come on Ick. You are easily the 58th most popular person here.

And from the title of this thread, you're finally understanding how awesome HSR is. You're coming around.

If ick leaves. I leave.
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
Ok, if you guys leave, you have to promise to post a huffy "I'm leaving" thread. I always get a kick out of those.

Not that we'd believe Patrick anyway. He's left about 15 times so far.
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
Oh, and the thing I hate most about deleted threads is that I never know what the heck the "why did that thread get deleted" threads are about. It would be nice if someone would make copies of the threads before they get deleted, so we can go back and figure out what went wrong.

Man, I'm is such a goofy mood.
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
quote:
So, if anyone else has watched this incredible show, please chatter about it [Smile]
[a bunch of posts, including at least one criticizing the show]

quote:
I saw one episode in the first year and didn't get what all the buzz was about. I found the main character whiny and self-absorbed and not particularly likeable. Watching the show was about as much fun as listening to a teenager whine.

But maybe I just caught them on a bad day.

^
|

My unedited first post in that thread.

quote:
quote:
I found the main character whiny and self-absorbed and not particularly likeable.
Sounds like a teenager to me =)
quote:
Yeah. I just don't know how entertaining it would be to watch a teenager's (so-called) life. [Smile]
^
|
My unedited second post in that thread.

So. Was I mean spirited?
 
Posted by Trogdor the Burninator (Member # 4894) on :
 
quote:
ot that we'd believe Patrick anyway. He's left about 15 times so far.

Something about a pot calling a kettle black comes to mind.
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
::counts on fingers::

Nope, you've left way more often than I have.

Icky, nope.
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
(((Icky)))

Heh. If it helps, I've been the cause of at least one deleted thread. I still agree with my own opinion, but I guess I should have put it more diplomatically.

p.s. And don't you dare go anywhere. [No No]

[ April 21, 2004, 02:47 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 
Posted by Strong Bad (Member # 6471) on :
 
quote:
If it helps, I've been the cause of at least one deleted thread.
I'm sure this isn't supposed to be a joke, but I still think it's funny.
 
Posted by Mike (Member # 55) on :
 
Ic:

quote:
So. Was I mean spirited?
No. But it still sounds a little mean-spirited. I can certainly understand not appreciating such a reaction to something I find "incredible". But again, I know you didn't intend it that way, so you're fine by me.

And no, I didn't confuse your posts with fallow's.
 
Posted by Suneun (Member # 3247) on :
 
Oh goodie. This is the way to make it settle down.

I've only deleted two threads in the entirety of my hatrackage. The first was because no one posted on it. It swept to page 3, and I deleted it because it had no response, had touched no one in a visible way.

This thread I deleted because it made me sad. I wanted to have a fun discussion about what it meant to me. But it degenerated quickly into a lot of bad feelings (unintended). I didn't like seeing the thread, I didn't like posting in the thread, and I didn't want it to keep going. Even if it had gotten back to the original point of the thread, I felt it was blemished with all this miscommunication.

So I deleted it. Very little was lost. It was intended to be a positive fluff thread that had potential for some good discussion about teen angst. But it didn't make me happy at all. It made me very unhappy. I was told that I was being too sensitive.

and now, thank you very much, the thread's misery is continuing.
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
How ironic that a fluff thread about angst, caused it.
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
Oh, I think I know which thread it was finally. I never saw the show.

But the self deprecating narcissism of the title makes it ironic, both that you felt the need to criticize it and that the criticism was met with baleetion.

Hey, Ic, it's not Hatrack if folks understand you all the time.

Simultaneous post with Kayla's.

[ April 21, 2004, 03:09 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
Yeah. I'm a real ass. My feelings don't matter.

EDIT simultaneous post. Not responding to Pooka.

[ April 21, 2004, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: lcarus ]
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
Was it about My So Called Life? Or some other show?
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
Didn't you open this thread to get our feedback? So now you can't probe for consolation. Where is Rita Spankmistress when we need her?
 
Posted by Suneun (Member # 3247) on :
 
Look, I never called you an ass. I told you there was a lot of miscommunication, and it was making me unhappy. I didn't want the thread to stick around. Sorry about that, sorry about losing the posts you posted in it.
 
Posted by Trogdor the Burninator (Member # 4894) on :
 
quote:
Yeah. I'm a real ass. My feelings don't matter.
Ok. Now I'm pissed. I officially declare myself Ick's bodyguard.

[Mad]
Don't mess with Joe unless you want to feel all the rage a burninator can muster.

Joe -- you're the most even-headed guy here. One that tolerates my goofiness by saying you actually enjoy it. It was one thread deletion, not a big deal. I once had a whole series of mafia threads deleted by Kristine because they had the word lynch in them. It really pissed me off at the time.. But you can't let it get to you. Don't worry.

Okay?
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
Pooka, I was not responding to you, or to your feedback. I was responding to being criticized with sarcasm for starting this thread, because it didn't let something die. I started this thread because I had just written a post and had no place to put it, and because I did want feedback on the general question I asked for feedback on.

Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have feelings when the victim comes back and tells me how I'm making her life even worse.
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
Thanks Pat.

Clearly I'm being sensitive here.

I will try to back away.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
No, you're not. Deleting a thread people have posted due is really, really rude and shows no respect for the time or thought people put into their posts. Even in a mostly fluff thread.

I wish people would be less tolerant of it. People can delete their own posts if they want. They shouldn't delete others.

Dagonee
 
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
 
Quote:
quote:
BannaOj
Member
Member # 3206

posted April 21, 2004 02:01 PM
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<-- feels dumb.
which thread got deleted?
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Posts: 4854 | Registered: Mar 2002 | IP: Logged |

katharina
Member
Member # 827

posted April 21, 2004 02:01 PM
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I love baleting threads.
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Posts: 11989 | Registered: Mar 2000 | IP: Logged |

Kat, now we all know who likes to delete threads [Eek!]

Do you always follow Banna's posts?
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
Unreal.
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
When someone deletes a thread that you have posted to, it can be annoying. Yes, it's frustrating to lose a post that you have taken time to compose, I understand that. In my case, it's never something that I have gotten super-upset about. A minor annoyance, on the range of things one could get annoyed about.

And I can understand someone deleting a thread, if they started it hoping for a certain type of feedback, and the feedback they were getting was just upsetting or annoying them.

I think it's exaggerating to call it "really rude and disrespectful." It's only a forum, and all the threads get deleted eventually, anyway.
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
quote:
Kat, now we all know who likes to delete threads
Yes indeedy. You sneaky, clever detective, you.

For the record, I like BALEETING threads. I have to admit I was teasing Icky, not realizing it was actually a word in StrongBadian.

[ April 21, 2004, 04:13 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 
Posted by Strong Bad (Member # 6471) on :
 
Actually, it's a word that Homestar made up. I don't talk like that.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
When someone deletes a thread that you have posted to, it can be annoying. Yes, it's frustrating to lose a post that you have taken time to compose, I understand that. In my case, it's never something that I have gotten super-upset about. A minor annoyance, on the range of things one could get annoyed about.

And I can understand someone deleting a thread, if they started it hoping for a certain type of feedback, and the feedback they were getting was just upsetting or annoying them.

I think it's exaggerating to call it "really rude and disrespectful." It's only a forum, and all the threads get deleted eventually, anyway.

If that's the general feeling around here I find it very disturbing. A poster deleting the works of others because "the feedback they were getting was just upsetting or annoying them?" Frankly, I find it appalling. Sure eventually posts will be deleted. That's different than having someone delete them months ahead of schedule.

Frankly, I don't know what else to call such disregard for others' time and effort.

Dagonee
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
Dag,
How about "a disregard for others' time and effort." That pretty much sums it up for me.
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
Dag, I think you are attaching way too much importance to a post made to a forum, that's all.

Just my personal opinion.
 
Posted by Rappin' Ronnie Reagan (Member # 5626) on :
 
O_o There was a second page on this thread a second ago... and now it's gone. Unless this post starts the second page again.

But, I agree with Dag. I think of threads as conversations, and you can't delete something you say IRL, so why should you be able to here? I really, really don't like it when someone deletes a thread. The posts did happen, so what's the point of hiding it? I also don't like deleting individual posts, but I can tolerate that much than deleting threads.
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
RRR,
You are right, there was a post here a bit ago.
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
We all understand that Ic was not the one who deleted the thread, right?

There seems to be a bit of confusion on this point.

But I actually dug this up to say I don't have the guts to crash the Nazgul thread.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
*wipes away tears of laughter*

Is it me, or was OSC-fan's post the funniest thing on Hatrack today?
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
I'm with you rivka. [Smile] I loved Icarus' reserved, yet oh so funny responding post....oh, and kat's unending patience. Impressive. [Big Grin]

Just for the record, I'm in the "you shouldn't delete threads" camp. If stuff is really making you unhappy, you can always petition the mods to lock it so that no one else can post... but deleting it really does wipe out a lot of other people's thoughts. It takes a lot for me to write my thoughts down in a post, whether they're serious or fluffy. It tries my patience and really takes concentration and effort, so I understand the deleted thread frustration.

How long has it been since we've flamed T for deleting the hug thread? [Wink] (I'm KIDDING, I promise.)
 
Posted by Richard Berg (Member # 133) on :
 
Let's all remember that this is a forum where everything is deleted after a few months...

Nevertheless, deleting an active thread is a terrible privilege to give users. Especially topic starters, who are not exactly impartial. Online forums have an implicit sign at the top of the page saying "you may not like what you get;" discussions taking on meaning above and beyond their explicit intentions is normal and frankly, encouraged. If the notion truly offends you, ask a moderator to lock it instead of pretending it never existed.
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I think thread deletion is better than post deletion. Very seldom do you then leave an opponent looking foolish or crazy.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
What opponents?

[Confused]
 
Posted by Richard Berg (Member # 133) on :
 
You know, in a thread. I.e., if pooka deleted that post, yours would look really stupid since nobody would know where the "opponents" reference came from.
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
quote:
O_o There was a second page on this thread a second ago... and now it's gone. Unless this post starts the second page again.
quote:
RRR,
You are right, there was a post here a bit ago.

Just to clear up the confusion, I accidentally triple posted, starting at the bottom of page 1, then deleted my 2 superfluous posts, which is why you saw 2 pages, then 1 page.

You may resume your regularly scheduled thread.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
The only time I got really annoyed about something like this was when I posted something that I thought was extremely funny on OSC-fan's thread, right before he/she/it deleted it. I was only mad at myself for even bothering.
 
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
 
Back to the original (sort of) question. I've been thinking about it some more.

KarlEd, I agree with you that it would be rude to post anti-Homosexuality statements in your Field Guide thread but I (obviously) don't agree about the cigar thread. And I'm trying to figure out why, and this is what I'm coming up with:

Your thread is not really about homosexuality. And you haven't really made any statements about homosexuality one way or the other, either. So posting to say you oppose homosexuality is either a non-sequitur or a character attack, but not part of an existing discussion.

But I feel like it's pretty much okay to post to dissent with any opinion being expressed. The alternative is that one point of view gets its say while another is muted, and that doesn't seem right to me.

What I am having here is a failure to put myself in another's shoes. What I am hearing is that occasionally people start threads to just sit around and talk about how much you agree with each other. And I'm trying, because I've always considered empathy a strong point of mine, but I just can't wrap my brain around it. I don't believe I've ever started such a thread. And I can't see that it damages anybody to have someone come into their cigar-love thread and say "I don't like it when people smoke cigars within 100 feet of me because they smell unbelievably strongly and badly." Explain why they don't, or ignore the person, but why waste time getting angry?

Hmm . . .
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Here's my thoughts. If I were having some beers with a bunch of friends, and someone started talking about "My So Called Life" (or any TV show), it wouldn't take long before someone said they didn't like it. That's how I think about threads here.

Dagonee
 
Posted by Starla* (Member # 5835) on :
 
is this the same baleeted from a month ago? I don't have time to read the whole thread.
 
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
 
No. This is a thread I started after a thread got deleted yesterday, due in large part to comments by me.

Or heck, due exclusively, I guess, to comments by me.
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
Well, I agree with you, Icarus. It would be OK in a conversation. As long as your comments are respectful, it should be OK to have a dissenting view point.

So much does NOT come through in writing, though. You might be joking around, and thinking of yourself kind of gently slapping the person on the back as you said something. The person reading it might be sensitive, and without your physical presence, does not interpret your words the way you mean them.

In that case, I think it is the person who is hurt's place to say they are hurt, or to ask if the person is kidding. If that is the case, they apologize, explain what they meant, or whatever it takes to get the discussion back to being productive.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
I have thought about it, and while I basically agree with what has been said so far (you can disagree, just don't be a jerk about it), I want to add something that I haven't seen yet. I want to point out that if you make it a point to be mr. devil's advocate on every. freaking. thread, and the only time that you have anything to say in someone's thread basically comes down to 'that's not that great' or 'here's where I disagree with you', this is going to be irritating. At least it is to me. Yeah, it's a free country. We all cherish individualism and such, but that doesn't mean you have to rain on people's parade at every opportunity. Sometimes it's nice to say 'You know what, you're right. That (subject of discussion) is pretty cool.'
 
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
 
I disagree with the subject of this thread.

imogen [Mad]
 
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
 
Hmm.

Gosh, I hope that's not what I do. Actually, I guess it's not . . . I know I've posted in praise of a lot of things too.

I post disagreement on threads where I feel out of sync with culture (most of the times I do this), because, deep down, I think, I want to understand those who are so much like me and yet hold an opinion I disagree with so thoroughly. Kind of the same reason I started this thread. Wanting to understand other viewpoints is, I think, kind of a common theme with me, and I think the result is that for the most part I'm good at it. But there are nevertheless times when I don't get something.

EDIT to add sig

-Icarus [No No]

[ April 23, 2004, 09:35 AM: Message edited by: Megachirops ]
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
I wasn't directing that at anyone in particular, MegaIcarus, and particularly not at you.
 
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
 
Yeah, I didn't really think you were, but I was just analyzing myself anyway, in light of that point of view. Don't worry, we're cool.

-Icarus [No No]
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
*tiptoeing carefully and late into the thread*

Ick, I remember when you posted on my "so many apples" thread - just to say you didn't like them. As I recall, it did not derail the thread, result in wounded feelings, or anything else that was even remotely stressful.

I dunno - I just work at not getting offended or angry easily here. With rare exceptions, this place is pretty free of people going out of their way to annoy and offend.

/ramble
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
Scott- maybe "opponents" is too strong a word. There isn't anyone I never agree with. But surely you recognize that in most threads there is are those who are pro and those who are con. The good thing is that hopefully I can jump into a different thread and the team I find myself on does not line up perfectly with the same team on every thread. Otherwise this would be a pretty dang boring place.

That's only in most threads, though. Sometimes turning a thread that wasn't intended to be a debate into a debate is just trolling. Not that I've never done it. But I think the right to delete a thread is the same as the right to troll. We don't like it when someone does it to us, but we always have a good reason for doing it ourselves. We = me. Don't mean to be declaring the mind and will of Hatrack or nothing.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
quote:
Here's my thoughts. If I were having some beers with a bunch of friends, and someone started talking about "My So Called Life" (or any TV show), it wouldn't take long before someone said they didn't like it. That's how I think about threads here.
Me, too, Dag.

Like Stephen, I work hard on the charitable interpretation part. That being said, were I truly offended, I would certainly say so. As my friends, I would expect that you would want to know. [Smile]
 
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
 
"All threads get deleted anyway"

I thought that old threads get archived for posterity?? [Frown]

That sucks...
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
They used to, Telperion, but the mechanism got pretty unwieldy for this fast-paced site. Plus, newbies were routinely encouraged to read up on all the prior conversations on a topic before posting. That can get pretty daunting when you are talking about 5+ years of Hatrack.

I think the main reason for the decision not to archive indefinitely was that this would make it too much unlike a natural conversation. (I remember something of that sort posted by kacard, but I could be wrong. That thread has disappeared! [Wink] )

[ April 23, 2004, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Man - think what future historians are missing by some of these threads disappearing. [Big Grin]

Dagonee
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Don't worry. They'll be able to read it once they invent the pastwatch machine. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
Well, didn't I hear a rumor that CEDRIOS was copying and archiving all threads? So he could complete his indepth psychological research on Hatrackers?

[Wink]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Of course, he'll only be successful if he can archive faster than kat/AJ/Tom can delete others' threads...
 
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
 
I remember that thread, sndrake. I don't like them because they hurt my teeth. We ended up an an interesting discussion of what might cause that effect, and also other food allergies. (In addition to the continuing discussion of everyone else's favorite type of apple that most other people engaged in). See, that's what I mean. I didn't post in there because I'm passionate about apples, but because most people seem to like them and I don't, and that was interesting to me. I'm most interested, I guess, by the places where I don't intersect with normal. (Don't even say it.)

-Icarus [No No]
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
Ic,
Apples make my teeth hurt, my eyes itch, my throat close up a little, and also cause sneezing.
I still eat them, though, so I think that makes me even weirder than you.
(or just dumb)
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
quote:
I'm most interested, I guess, by the places where I don't intersect with normal. (Don't even say it.)

[Evil]

OK, but you can't complain if I think it.

[ April 23, 2004, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: sndrake ]
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
quote:
Well, didn't I hear a rumor that CEDRIOS was copying and archiving all threads? So he could complete his indepth psychological research on Hatrackers?
You trying to stir up trouble, sndrake? [No No] [Razz]
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
Hmmm...

Usually, when I stir up trouble nobody has to ask if that is what I was doing. (I get good marks in my annual review on this - "stirring up trouble" is in my job description.)

Mischief is all I aim for here.

Were *you* the one who started that rumor, Ela?

[Razz]
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Hey, sndrake, you'd be what my Canadian husband calls a "professional s**t-disturber."

He's one, too. Cool.
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
::hums loudly:: [Angst]

::backs slowly out of thread:: [Eek!]

**Ela** [Evil]
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
ClaudiaTherese:
quote:
Hey, sndrake, you'd be what my Canadian husband calls a "professional s**t-disturber."

He's one, too. Cool.

That is VERY cool, as I am under the impression that there are fewer of those in Canada than in the U.S. Talking with my colleagues in Canada, they tend to use different tactics - rarely being able to generate street protests. Doesn't mean they aren't creative or effective, though. [Wink]
 
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
I largely or completely missed the threads being specifically discussed here. On thread deletion, it's annoying because of its arrogance to me. It's arrogant because it exercises power that is given really because of the mechanics of the forum, which permit one person to delete the posts of other people.

That's irritating and insulting. It's a strange definition of individuality, that one person has the right to delete another person's remarks, but the remarker does not have the right to have their statements remain.

'No specific person' indeed.
 


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