quote: Sean Talty is required to make "reasonable" efforts to avoid conception during his five-year probation after he was convicted of not supporting three of his seven children by five women. If he violates the order, he could get six months to a year in prison...
Talty, 32, pleaded no contest in 2002 to failing to pay $38,000 in child support for three of his children with his former wife and another woman.
Apparently this pillar of the community is married and his new wife wants to have a child with him. I seriously don't understand how any woman would be willing to have a relationship with a deadbeat like this. Does she honestly think he'll be any different with her and her child(ren)?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Of course! Why not -- he's changed!
. . . and shoes stretch. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
"Of course he's changed! Otherwise, he married me, didn't he?"
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Well, if he isn't changed yet, I'm sure SHE can do it.
The big question is: "Is he paying for the rest of the kids yet? Or not?"
[ May 14, 2004, 08:11 PM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]
Posted by Rudolph (Member # 3236) on :
lol that thread title cracked me up big time...
Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
So you guys believe changing is impossible?
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
It depends on what one is trying to change into. A slender pair of jeans - may take some effort and a healthy diet. A frog - may take a witch or a fairy. A good person - will take years and years of commitment.
It may be possible that he transformed into Prince Charming and Mother Theresa's lovechild in only two years, but most similar cases have shown that that's probably not the case.
Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
And who would better know if it IS the case - that person's wife, or some people on a forum who have never met the guy?
Posted by Richard Berg (Member # 133) on :
I think the forumites have the statistical edge.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:But Carro said Talty does not have the money. Talty dropped out of school and has worked a series of jobs that do not pay well, Carro said. His latest job earned him $400 per week at World Wide Windows and Siding, according to court papers.
At the same time he owes $150 a week plus arrearages on two separate cases, and is paying a $6,000 judgment from a traffic accident. Since his initial sentencing, Talty has married his then-girlfriend, Vickie Lynn Kinder, in a civil ceremony. It is his second marriage. The couple already had two children, but Kinder told reporters after a hearing last year that she wanted to have more. At the time, Talty said that he had no plans to get anyone pregnant and was chipping away at his debts. "I'm not a deadbeat dad," he told reporters. "I take care of my kids."
Talty declined to be interviewed for this article.
Kimbler said that Talty's income was a consideration in sentencing. On the day Talty was initially supposed to be sentenced, Kimbler considered putting him in jail but first had a question: Could he require Talty not to have any more children?
The prosecution and defense said they did not think it was legal, so Kimbler ordered briefs from the lawyers and ended up with the language that Talty should make "reasonable efforts to avoid conception."
"It was the first time I had imposed this particular condition," Kimbler said.
His ruling was upheld by the 9th District Court of Appeals in Akron.
And Kimbler said the provision has been beneficial to Talty. "He has been a model probationer," Kimbler said. "If he has a problem, he notifies his probation officer. Mr. Talty is a hard worker and seems to be a guy who is a good worker. That was one reason I didn't want to put him in jail."
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Oh yes, he's a hard worker. The only problem is he's a love machine.
Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
Well, if he can't afford to support children, he shouldn't be having them anyway.
Posted by Ryan Hart (Member # 5513) on :
And it's just that cut and dried.
Posted by The Silverblue Sun (Member # 1630) on :
Why don't we just accuse him of being a terrorist and kill him?
Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
Well, I don't think there is any evidence that he is a terrorist, Thor. He wasn't captured on a battlefield fighting for the enemy, and it doesn't sound like anyone has found bomb plans.
Besides, the fellow doesn't sound too competent or capable anyway. He'd probably just blow himself up. (Alone, I mean--not like a suicide bomber.)
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Well, if he can't afford to support children, he shouldn't be having them anyway.
I agree. But I don't agree that it should be the government forcing that decision.
Dagonee
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Right.
Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
Well, what do you think it should do, Dagonee?
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
I don't know. Not all problems are solveable by the government.
But I think everyone ought to be leery of the government deciding who has enough money to be allowed to reproduce.
Dagonee
Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
quote: Not all problems are solveable by the government.
Agreed. I suppose I just tend to think that when an issue comes before the court, it may as well make its point.
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
This guy is paying less than $25 per month per child. That's not support, it's a joke. At that rate, without interest, he'll have the $38,000 paid off in just over 21 years. Those children need the support now, not when they're adults.
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I seriously don't understand how any woman would be willing to have a relationship with a deadbeat like this. Does she honestly think he'll be any different with her and her child(ren)?
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