Well you wondeful Hatrack peoples. This ia a plea from me, on behalf of our wonderful mackillian.
Jamie is a wonderful person. She's cute, funny, smart, and all around cool. And she fences awesome! Definitely a great person to have as a daughter.
quote:(15:52:59) mackillian: can I borrow someone else's mom? (15:53:13) mackillian: or I could ask hatrack "Who wants to be my surrogate mom?" (15:53:16) mackillian: I'd make a good kid
I will vouch for her, she WILL make a good kid.
See I would share my mommy with her, but she already doesn't have time to be my mommy let alone Jamie's too. So I guess maybe I am looking for one too. But this thread is for Mack.
She needs someone who will tell her to stay in bed when she's sick, to tell her when to be nice, when she's heading for trouble, you know, the Mom thing.
So step up Jatraquera's, who will be Jamie's mommy?
[ June 02, 2004, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: Zevlag ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*hugs mack and Zevvy*
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I've volunteered in the past, but I seem to work better as a big sister.
And I can't be both!
Jamie, are you still dealing with the same scenario as last night? And did you make that call this morning?
(Can't get on AIM -- leaving in 2 minutes.)
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Jamie, get into bed. Quit getting in trouble.
::shakes finger::
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
Nathan would be the Best. Mommy. Ever.
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Hey, I can't be dating my kids!
PS, Nathan is a sucker for kids. Seriously. I'd be the worst parent ever only because at the first sight of a tear, I'd give in to their every want.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Awww. That's almost adorable.
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
quote: I'd give in to their every want.
I repeat: The Best. Mommy. Ever.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
Now you know how to get him into bed mack!
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
Wouldn't Nathan, as the Mommy, be trying to get *Jamie* into bed?
-> "it's past your bedtime young lady!"
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
I would like an X-Box.
Why won't you get me one?
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
::blinks::
I did say kids, didn't I? Celia, are you a kid?
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
[ June 02, 2004, 07:23 PM: Message edited by: celia60 ]
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Sorry, but text and drawings aren't as cute as the real thing.
Not even the one in the smilie.
[ June 02, 2004, 07:35 PM: Message edited by: T_Smith ]
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
so i'm getting one in a couple of months?
sweet!
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
No.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
Well, I'm still a kid, legally, I think.
And I'm going to be crying Niagra Falls until I get...um...candy. Twislers and Butterfingers and M&Ms and Snickers and Gummi Bears and....
[ June 02, 2004, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Yes I am and no I didn't call.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Why the hell not?!?
I don't think I'll be on AIM tonight.
I need to go buy some rope.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
'Cause I was fine for about four hours. ...so I didn't call. 'cause I was fine.
...and I still don't have a fever.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
rivka, sisters count. I consider my sisters my moms.
space opera
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
And when the four hours were up, was it still early enough to call? *check watch* Oh, wait, it's STILL early enough to call!
Opera, thanks. Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
No it isn't. The office is closed. It's quarter til 10 over here.
Get on aim. *shakes stick*
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I know what time it is. And I'm pretty sure it was during office hours when the pain started again.
Moreover, IT IS NOT TOO LATE TO CALL THE SERVICE!
And I can't get on AIM now -- probably in a couple hours.
I'm sure I'll have found some rope by then. Or maybe a long extension cord will work . . .
[ June 02, 2004, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: rivka ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Is too. And it was. I woke up late. Afternoon, even. So there.
And I got a 15' extension cord today...
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I need to borrow that cord.
*grabs*
Can someone please remind me how hogtying works?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm wiggly. And I fight dirty.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
True. But you don't feel well, and I have a baseball bat . . . somewhere or other.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I have three of those. And two swords.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Just give her a noogie. That always works.
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
What's wrong with mack? It's not your appendix, is it?
Call the damned doctor! And whatever is wrong, "You aren't allowed to get sick anymore."! So there.
Posted by Paul Goldner (Member # 1910) on :
You need to bring some of those swords to boston.
I brought my schtuff out.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Apparently jon's shin has healed. How quickly he forgets.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I will. I just need the new grip for the elecric to arrive. And some time to go to boston. Argh. Driving to boston. Ew.
Kayla: exhaustion despite copious amounts of sleep, headache, backache, neckache. But no fever. Transient nausea as well.
No fever, not calling the doc.
Posted by Paul Goldner (Member # 1910) on :
Eh, I have no electric stuff. DOn't sweat that Not that I'm any good any more, anyways.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Forgets what, Mack?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*kicks jon*
Right, but I'd like to have a backup foil. Posted by Paul Goldner (Member # 1910) on :
Well, I COULD bring my saber out, and let you use my foil in case I break yours...
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
The grip is supposed to be in any day now.
mmmmmmmm. saber. I got to handle one today.
Posted by Paul Goldner (Member # 1910) on :
*ignores double entendre*
Sabres are fun. But I suck with em. But fun. Whacking people in the head with swords is a good idea.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
She neglects to mention that the pain does not respond to her prescription anti-inflammatory, has been going on for days now -- four, I think?, and is pretty extreme.
The girl who RUNS up mountains estimated the pain at 6-7 on a 10-point scale.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm used to getting whacked in the head. I have to aim for kneecaps though.
*ignores rivka's comments*
Posted by Anthro (Member # 6087) on :
I'll be somebody's mommy. Or daddy. Or your very paternal/maternal hermaphrodite.
IM me. RochtalAlphkrist.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
According to the flow charts in the AMA's Family Medical Guide, headache + nausea + eye pain (which you haven't mentioned, but I didn't ask about) = "Call your physician now!" because it indicates raised pressure in the eye; headache + nausea + increased pain with bending neck + drowsiness = "EMERGENCY! GET HELP NOW!" Possible causes: brain hemorrhage, meningitis (apparently possible even WITHOUT a fever); and if this has been going on for several days (and is not a result of alcohol), may indicate dangerously high blood pressure or (rarely) a brain tumor.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I have low blood pressure. Don't worry. I'm fine.
Posted by jexx (Member # 3450) on :
You have a TUMOR!
That would suck.
Don't have a tumor, jamie. Getting it cut out would mess up your 'highspeed' hairdo.
I'm TRYING to mom you, but you keep wiggling out of the sack I put you in for safekeeping! *mutters*
On another, unrelated note: I'm moving! Apparently, there is a flood in our shared crawlspace. Oh, how delicious is the verification that I was Right All Along! Yes, there IS mold in my drywall! I've been telling them that for 2 1/2 YEARS! *mutters* Stupid Army. So, I don't know where we are going, but we are still going to be on West Point, and maybe now we will have a Guest Bedroom for you to stay in! (A room of your Very Own!) Now you can REALLY be our Nanny! VBG
*hugs*
Get better.
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
mack, have you thought about a deep tissue massage (aka trigger point release massage)? You might have some hot trigger points that are causing all the problems. Try it, you'll like it.
quote:According to the flow charts in the AMA's Family Medical Guide
My mom has this wretched book. Trust me, it's not a good thing to have in the home of a hypochondriac child. Once, I discovered I had congestive heart failure and stayed awake all night crying and waiting to die. Another time, I had the flesh eating disease and I had to force myself not to look at it for an hour to see if it would grow an inch.
Just about every path in the flow charts ends with "SEEK EMERGENCY MEDICAL HELP NOW! What you're experiencing is probably just a hangnail but THERE'S A CHANCE IT'S AN ACUTE CASE OF POLYARTERITIS NODOSA AND YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM HAS FAILED, AND WILL BE FOLLOWED SOON BY ALL OF YOUR VITAL SYSTEMS IF YOU DON'T GET ON A DIFRIBULATOR IN 15 MINUTES OR LESS!"
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
On a cheerful note, maybe it's mono. your lymph nodes don't *have* to be swollen.
It could just be an ordinary virus too. We can't stay healthy all the time.
AJ
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Valley Fever!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Annie, the scary thing is that the one my mom has (don't remember which, but it's different than what I have) tended to be even MORE dire!
For the record, I don't think mack has a brain tumor (or other life-threatening nasty) -- and I agree that the surgery would mess up her pretty hair, which would be an awful shame -- but I do think that pain this bad deserves at least a call to the doctor.
For my sake, if not mack's! Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Where is she, by the way? Anyone seen her?
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Last time I saw her was late last night. She was making no-bake cookies. Perhaps she has since suffered a chocolate overload.
space opera
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm right here.
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Jamie, as soon as you get back, call doctor if you haven't already. Otherwise, I'll... uh... say nasty things under my breath about the weather... you have been warned.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
She hasn't. She says she's fine and she'll live. Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Hmmm... fine. She didn't say anything today about it, and computer at home is, well, unattainable.
In that case lets all order a pizza.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Perhaps I was unclear. She's still in pain -- the same as yesterday, she said.
I think we should take her out and shoot her, to put US out of our misery! Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Ok, then my threat stands. Doctor... or mumblings from Nathan.... choose wisely.
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
isn't she on her way there? tell her you're going for ice cream and drop her at a doctor.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
:shakes head:
No one can care about someone else and be Utter Evil.
You need to surrender your Utter Evil sticker, celia.
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
hey, there's nothing not evil about an ice cream lie.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Yes, there is. The ends are Good.
Evil != Good
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
you have no appreciation for ice cream if you think that.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
I have loved ice cream more deeply than a monster like you could ever dream.
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
Never go in against cecilia when ice cream is on the line!
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
I know the secrets of Frozen Custard. I can live there quite happily for some time. So, whenever you feel like dying, feel free to visit.
[ June 04, 2004, 11:32 AM: Message edited by: Scott R ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Want to know a scary, horrific thing?
...ice cream apparently makes me sick.
...and I'm fine, guys. Seriously. Headache is mostly gone (at least right now).
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Now THAT is scary.
How 'bout frozen yogurt? What is it about ice cream that makes you sick?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm not even sure. I tried lactose-free ice cream, and that was WORSE than regular ice cream!
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Did you know brain-freezes can cure headaches that are just getting started? I've used this technique to derail oncoming headaches.
Just give yourself a brain freeze, and when it goes away, the headache often recedes. I have anecdotal evidence on one subject (me) only, but you get a Slurpee or ice cream to test it out, so what the hey?
Dagonee
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote: I'm fine, guys. Seriously. Headache is mostly gone (at least right now).
Yay!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Can you get on aim before the sun sets over there?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Yes, but only if some of the food doesn't get cooked and I skip a shower.
But I'll call you in a bit, ok? Just for a few minutes, though, while I finish up the cooking.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*feels squishy special*
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Home or cell?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
cell. is FREE right now!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Okay. I can't take THIS MUCH SLEEP. Nine hours again last night. Another nap this afternoon. I'm still tired. My head hurts again.
wtf?!
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Mack, this may be a silly question, but are you getting enough to eat?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*blink*
um...
today I've had...
a bowl of granola and a roast beef sandwich.
yesterday I had...
three pieces of pizza, tuna fish sandwich, bowl of stew, last piece of pizza.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Try eating something mild but solid-- like bread.
After I've had a deep sleep, sometimes I wake up with a headache. Food gets rid of it.
Food is good.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Yes...apparently Jamie needs to eat more. o_O
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Why did nobody else express appreciation for this:
quote: Never go in against cecilia when ice cream is on the line!
Philistines!
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
uh, maybe you didn't catch this:
quote: I know the secrets of Frozen Custard. I can live there quite happily for some time. So, whenever you feel like dying, feel free to visit.
and YOU call US philistines? Psh. Poser. Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Ah. Quite right. I didn't catch it because it was so forced.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Did somebody delete a thread?
Posted by jexx (Member # 3450) on :
Are you drinking enough water? Maybe your big ol' brain needs oxygen. (Okay, how weird is it that I almost spelled 'oxygen' as 'oksygen'?)
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
mackillian, I'm pretty sure your project for this life is to learn how to be your own mommy. I'm serious. In fact, I'm as certain that this is your aporia as I am of anything else I know.
Think about it: many people around you give you advice, but it is never as useful as that which you come up with yourself. You've found your own way to survive a brutal childhood fairly intact, certainly better than most have done with much less struggle.
And though you continue to ask for advice and comforting from others, in the end it is your own small, still inner voice that you must listen to. Right? We are your friends, your sisters and brothers, but despite how passionately we may try, we really can't direct your life for you. In fact, you are too strong to let us.
mack, meet mommy. Mommy, meet mack.
(As fot the rest of us, well, we'll just continue to love you to pieces. )
[ June 05, 2004, 11:11 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
mack, I think CT is right (well, she frequently is, you know ); but I don't think it means you have to give up on getting surrogate mommy-ing.
Rather, I think it mostly means that your surrogate mommies will frequently get overruled.
(((((mack))))) Posted by suntranafs (Member # 3318) on :
"Never go in against cecilia when ice cream is on the line"!
You bloody murderer. *dies laughing*
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
Sheesh, people, credit where credit is due.
quote: I have loved ice cream more deeply than a monster like you could ever dream.
I am just a follower of a brilliant mind.
Posted by UTAH (Member # 5032) on :
OK, Mac, I AM the mommy and you do need to go to the doctor. The symptoms have gone on way too long. You need to see a doctor to make sure it isn't anything serious. Are you just being stubborn or do you not have medical insurance?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Actually, UTAH, mack has consulted with CT, one of our wonderful Hatrack Doctors. Additionally, the headache (as of Friday, at least, when I last spoke to mack) was subsiding.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
...and it's back with a vengeance. So is the exhaustion. Night before last I slept 9 hours, then took an hour and a half nap (somewhere between 1 and 2 hours). Mind you, I woke up at 1pm and took the nap 4:30-6ish. I was asleep in bed by 2am last night with a murderous headache. I awoke by my alarm at 7:30 with same headache. Shut off alarm, took 20mg bextra, and got back into bed. God will understand.
I slept until 1:30 pm. The headache, at least, is mostly gone.
I concede. Something is wrong. I am calling the doctor tomorrow. This isn't right.
The BEST part is that I'm going up to see my father and sister this afternoon. >_<
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Good luck with everything!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Damn. I was so hoping CT was right. I am glad that you'll see a doc tomorrow, mack.
I hope this afternoon goes well. Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
rivka, I haven't talked to mackillian in enough depth to thoroughly evaluate her as a physician regarding her current concerns. My sense, though, is that if she believes it is good to see or call her physician, then this is exactly what she should do. I think her listening to that still inner voice which directs her is a good thing.
I am, moreover, pretty sure that she will make herself the best mommy she could ever have. (But that's a friend-guess, not a physician-guess, and I'm willing to be proven wrong. ) Sometimes I think advice can be counter-productive, as sometimes we are less likely to do the obvious thing in part because we've been told to do it -- even if we asked to be told. I've certainly seen this pattern in myself before.
In that light, I'm reckoning that my job as a friend (mine, not necessarily anyone else's) is to support Jamie in her choices and encourage her to be her own mommy. Her own choices for herself have gotten her through some outrageously difficult times, and I can't remember when I've ever given advice to her which she isn't strong and centered enough to make up her own mind about, anyway. It seems (to me) that her asking for advice might be her own way of figuring out what she really believes she ought to do, regardless.
That's cool. She's the expert on mack. She's also proven herself to be one heck of a survivor.
So, I'm writing this as a bit of a disclaimer (me being neither mack's physician nor mother, specifically), and as a wild wail of support for the mighty mack. (And mack, though I wrote this to rivka, of course I wrote it for you, too. I believe in you, sugar. *hug)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I apologize for implying that you were acting as mack's physician, CT. Of course that wouldn't be possible from so far away, and I should have been more careful about my phrasing.
quote: Sometimes I think advice can be counter-productive, as sometimes we are less likely to do the obvious thing in part because we've been told to do it -- even if we asked to be told.
I think the word you were looking for (or carefully skirting, as the case may be ) is "stubborn."
quote: Her own choices for herself have gotten her through some outrageously difficult times, and I can't remember when I've ever given advice to her which she isn't strong and centered enough to make up her own mind about, anyway. It seems (to me) that her asking for advice might be her own way of figuring out what she really believes she ought to do, regardless.
That's cool. She's the expert on mack. She's also proven herself to be one heck of a survivor.
Very, very true.
CT is wise. Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
rivka's always been my hero.
(Stubborn? You wanna see stubborn? *laughing Takes one to know one, definitely. I'm not a Taurus for nothin'.)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
<-- also a Taurus, as it happens
But what I consider more relevant, is that I have two stubborn parents. And three stubborn kids . . . Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Mack, As I discovered in a recent thread, I am the age of your actual mom. I agree with CT that you are your own best mom. However, I would be happy to be your friend-who-is-the-same-age-as-your-mom kind of mom. This is on the condition that you tell all your friends, "This is my Mom, but doesn't she look WAY too young to be my mom?" Because I will need that. Liz
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Taurus?
Astrology!!!
CT's a witch!
No, she's a witch doctor!
Burn her! And rivka, too!
And cut a hole in Mack's head to let the evil spirit out!
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
::takes pointy objects away from Scott::
There will be no opening of anyones skull around here.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Especially mine. Imagine what might escape!
*exhausted*
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Nice, very nice. Mack gets defended, while CT and I are left to roast? Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
You two aren't sick.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*sings* We are sick, we are sick, we are sicksicksick!
Maybe so, but hole-in-head is (potentially) a whole lot less fatal that being burned at the stake! Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
So YOU say.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*checks* Yep, I did.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
This is really freaky. I've been up for about seven hours and am completely exhausted.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*dangles gold watch in front of mack's eyes*
*sets watch to pendulum-like swinging*
You are becoming very awake and alert! You feel full of energy and verve!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I hope that works.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Oo ee oo ah ah ting tang walla walla bing bang.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
*thinking of mack in the wee hours of work
~~~~~~~mack~~~~~~~
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
I posted this for Slash about four months ago-- I think it applies.
quote:
Get Better: Frivel And Schleck Part Fiver!
Haul him out and draw the lines, Put some mustard down his spine! Dance and shout the sickness out, Boils and blains and pox and gout!
You bring the torches and I'll bring the leeches Take his hand when out he reaches, Pull him up onto the stone Light the fires and sing the song:
Oh! Hey holly-ghoolie, die-del-die-del joolie! A bit of magic, a bit of phlox, get you cured of any pox! Oh! Ben-za-ben-za-ben-za-bee! Sores and pus and leprosy!
All go out! Do not stay! We will sing you all away! Leave our poor dear friend alone, Put the flesh back on his bones!
Raise him up and hear him yelp! Stuff his craw with mashed up kelp! Beat the drum, sound the gong, Sing once more our healing song:
Oh! Hey holly-ghoolie, die-del-die-del joolie! A bit of magic, a bit of phlox, get you cured of any pox! Oh! Ben-za-ben-za-ben-za-bee! Sores and pus and leprosy!
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let alone Jamie's too. So I guess maybe I am looking for one too. But this thread is for Mack.![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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); but I don't think it means you have to give up on getting surrogate mommy-ing.![[Cool]](cool.gif)
She's also proven herself to be one heck of a survivor.![[Evil Laugh]](graemlins/evillaugh.gif)
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