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Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

*Excuse me. Is this thing on?

I WANT MY GRADES, DAMMIT! OUR LAST EXAM WAS MAY 7TH! **horrible feedback whine**

Sorry. I had to say that to someone, and if I say it one more time to Eve she might hit the ceiling. And we're moving out soon and want our security deposit back, so holes in the ceiling aren't good.

Thank you. That is all.

Dagonee

[ July 03, 2004, 06:46 AM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

*pat pat*

Posted by Shepherdess (Member # 6115) on :

Dagonee,
My roommate is in law school, and she still hasn't gotten her grades either. I honestly don't understand how it can take that long. You'd think that law professors would be able to read (and grade) tests at a reasonable rate. She didn't get her grades for the fall semester until half way through the spring semester, long after the withdrawal period. The only thing we can figure is they want people to be stuck paying the tuition for the following semester even if they would have dropped out due to low grades.

Not to be cynical, but formal education of any kind is sometimes just a big, lucrative (and sometimes unethical) business.

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Thanks, rivka.

Shepherdess, to be fair, my exams were all over 17 pages double-spaced/typed, and each professor had over 120 in the class (one had 154!). Still, even she has only had 5 exams per day with weekends off.

I understand it. I just don't like it.

*stamps feet*

*ignores neighbor downstairs complaining about stamped feet*

Dagonee

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

Is there an official deadline by which grades have to be turned in? (If not, why on earth isn't there?)

Posted by tt&t (Member # 5600) on :

Yeah, I hate waiting for marks! My law results have always taken longer to get back than anything else. Last year we got our mid-year exam results in October. JUST before the next set of exams. [Roll Eyes]

Not that my ranting helps you, Dag, but hey, we feel your pain. [Razz]

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

There is an official deadline, but as best I can tell, they don't tell us what it is until after it happens. They certainly don't put it in a nice easy to find place on the web.

All I know is that Law Review invitations are supposed to go out in "late June" and they are based on the grades.

tt&t: shared ranting is always helpful. [Big Grin]

Dagonee

Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :

[Eek!]

You're not Eve?

Isn't it funny, this should actually be considered a compliment, I thought you were female.

[Confused]

It's hard to tell sometimes. That's nice actually, that it's hard to tell.

Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :

(((Dag)))

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

quote:
You're not Eve?

Isn't it funny, this should actually be considered a compliment, I thought you were female.

This is now becoming a long-running joke. Several other people (all women, I believe) have also thought I was female here. I'm not insulted by it at all, but I am curious as to why.

Maybe it's better not to know, though. [Big Grin]

Dagonee
P.S., Thanks for the compliments on the web site.
Edit: Thanks, Anna.

[ June 21, 2004, 07:34 AM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]

Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :

I have absolutely no idea. None!

It was an assumption. Silly me!

Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :

Maybe because your name here is close to that of another, earlier member, Dragon, who is female? That's the only reason I can think of. I've always assumed that you were male, for what it's worth.

Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :

I came in here expecting a deep and earnest debate about the merits and evils of briefs, as opposed to boxers, their bastard child (the boxer-brief) or flying solo.

Of course, we've already had that conversation. I was also going to point *that* out.

Posted by Richard Berg (Member # 133) on :

I confess, I thought you were female. Not many male names end in "ee" in this part of the world.

Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :

Sorry, you've all failed. Your rants wouldn't even qualify as a legal g-string.

Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :

You think it takes a long time for law school grades to come out? Just wait till you take the bar exam. Maybe other states are a lot faster, but in Nevada, the results of the July bar exam aren't released until freaking October!

Thank goodness I don't have to do that again.

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Same in Virginia. I don't want to think about it yet. I looked into taking the bar exam between 2L and 3L, but they don't let you in Virginia.

Dagonee

Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :

quote:
Several other people (all women, I believe) have also thought I was female here. I'm not insulted by it at all, but I am curious as to why.

Um, because you are intelligent, calm, thoughtful and well spoken? I mean really, when a woman sees these things, she assumes it must be a woman, because men just aren't like that. Men, on the other hand, being the more egocentric sex just assume everyone is a male until told otherwise (or the screen name gives it away.) That line from As Good As It Gets "I think of a man. And I take away reason and accountability," is just wrong.

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

OK, half my grades are in. I got a B+ in Persuasion for Advocates, which is about what I expected. There's a mandatory curve, and I can't honestly say I was better than half the 15 people in the class.

The really good news - I got an A+ in Property! The Rule Against Perpetuities is my b***! Note to Systems Analysts contemplating law school: Property is your class. Own it. Treat everything as if you were documenting business processes.

Two more left; if I get A- or better in both, I've got a very good shot at Law Review. One A, one A- is almost a guarantee, and one A one B+ is 50/50.

You'd think this would make me less anxious, but it hasn't. I'm terrible at waiting. Just terrible.

Dagonee

Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :

[The Wave]

Congrats on the ones so far!

*crosses fingers for grades yet to come*

FG

Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :

Dag, the Rule against Perpetuities is funny. I kept hearing people talk about it with wry horror before I actually learned it, and then when we got to it in Property class it seemed like a piece of cake. I kept trying to figure out what I wasn't getting, because it couldn't be this simple, could it?

Yeah, it could.

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

FG: thanks for the cheering section [Smile]

.

UofUlawguy,
Exactly. Except for figuring out who a person in being is (or the fact that classes that can expand after sale remove the entire class from consideration as lives in being), I thought it was easy.

But there was one entire short answer that depended on it, rather sneakily, and no one I talked to got it right. They had me doubting myself, but I rechecked and I was almost sure I was right.

It seems they could apply the rule if someone said, "How does RAP affect this grant," but they couldn't remember to check each grant to see if RAP applied.

Either way, I'm still really happy. I didin't expect any A+s in law school. I've always gotten ahead by being second or third best in several things, rather than best at any one thing. Then finding activities that combine those several things without adding too many of my weaknesses.

Honestly, though, just having bought and sold a house before law school was probably the real edge.

I'm not too concerned about Law Review for Law Review's sake, but I'm looking for a very particular job with no flexibility in location, so I need every edge I can get.

When you were in law school, did everyone say "Don't talk about grades and exams" but end up doing it anyway, or is that just my school?

Dagonee
*I apologize for the giddiness.

Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :

Dagonee:"When you were in law school, did everyone say "Don't talk about grades and exams" but end up doing it anyway, or is that just my school?"

I don't remember anyone discouraging talking about talking about exams, but people did generally avoid talking about grades. At least I think they did. I didn't spend much time at law school when I wasn't in class, so I didn't get the social interaction part of it. Maybe everybody was talking about grades behind my back.

I went out for law review, but didn't quite make it. Instead, I made the staff of one of our school's other two publications, the Journal of Land, Resources and Environmental Law, or JLREL. To this day, that is the only time I've ever been officially published. Whenever I go to a law library now, I check to see if I'm in there. I usually am. [Cool]

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

It's not like everyone does it all the time. But it usually comes up eventually once a semester.

And [Cool]

on the publishing credit.

Dagonee

Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :

Smile!

Be happy! Say " [No No]

" to sadness and frustration.

[Sleep]

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

I am trying. Believe me. But I'm pathetic - I check my grades 4 or 5 times a day, and that's when I'm controlling myself.

Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :

I'm the same. When I got an 800 on my SAT II, I checked like 5 times a day because I was so disbeliving. And then, I still felt nervous when I was opening the official letter.

[Sleep]

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

I can sympathize. Good score, BTW. Gratz.

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

*applauds* Good work! [Smile]

Good luck on the remaining ones.

Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :

Hooray!!

And Dag, aside from my usual metrosexual jokes, I just thought you were a woman once, a long time ago, because of your screen name. No clue why. Maybe it was the double e's.

Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :

Way to go, Dag! Here's hopes that the rest of your grades are posted soon.

space opera

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Got my other two grades: A's in Constitutional Law and Criminal Investigation (search and seizure, Miranda, stuff like that).

That means my semester GPA is 3.936, and my cumulative is 3.841, which means barring some outrageously good grades by 24 other people, I'll make Law Review. Which is just tremendously helpful in finding clerkships and jobs, especially with the geographic limitations I've got.

Woohoo!

Dagonee

Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :

[Hail]

Great news Dag. Isn't it satisfying to be rewarded for all your hard work?

Posted by Erik Slaine (Member # 5583) on :

You have the right to party.
Anything you throw down your gullet may be thrown up in a court of law.
You have the right to a designated driver to be present at your party.
If you do not have a designated driver, one will be appointed to you free of charge.
Do you understand these rights?
Do you wish to give up these rights?

[Cool]

Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :

Mazel tov, Dagonee!

*high-five*

Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :

Wow! Congratulations!!

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Thanks, everybody! Now the daily, "Eve, no grades yet!" can end.

It's a sad fact of law school that the first year's grades are far more important than all the rest. As long as you don't totally slack off and fail, firms pretty much just see those grades. Not that I'm complaining at this point. [Smile]

Dagonee

Posted by Insanity Plea (Member # 2053) on :

:: dances ::
Congrats! Any clue what field you're gonna specialize in?
Satyagraha

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Criminal - almost definitely prosecutor, but I'll have to do some other work for at least a year or two. I'm choosing courses with a heavy criminal & litigation emphasis, with some useful tidbits such as Copyrights and Corporations.

I absolutely want to do litigation. If I ever went civil, I'd want to look into doing alternate dispute resolution - mediation, arbitration, negotiation.

Dagonee

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

CONGRATS!

[The Wave]

Oh, and Erik, [ROFL]

Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :

yay Dag!!! [Big Grin]

We're proud of you and your awesome GPA!!

(while we're on the subject, I'm proud to say that I was one of the FIRST women to think that Dag was a girl. [Blushing]

)

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Thanks everyone. Narnia, I'm just going to go with Kayla's explanation, since it's the one that makes me look best. But you still get credit for being the first to call me a woman. Except that time I dressed as the Church Lady, but that's a different story.
Dagonee

Posted by Erik Slaine (Member # 5583) on :

Why won't you tell us about that?

Could it be... Satan? o_0