www.jkrowling.net confirms it. You can see it for yourself on behind the door and brick wall on the site. If the wall eludes you, there are hints on www.the-leaky-cauldron.org
I think it's a weird title.
Posted by Book (Member # 5500) on :
Wow... That does seem different. Hmm.... Think the title refers to Voldemort?
Posted by Book (Member # 5500) on :
Oh. She says it doesn't. Nevermind.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
That is a unique name It better be a long book weighing 50 pounds and having to be carried with a forklift.
Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
Likely it refers to someone we have not even met yet. That would follow the trend of past titles, all of which were things or people we had not previously heard about in the series.
It's a bit weird, yeah. It's the "Prince" that throws me off. I haven't thought of magicfolk having princes, but I suppose they would, if not in the UK, then in SOME place in the world.
A friend on LiveJournal said that slashers will have a field day with the title, and oh she is so right. *gets plot bunny of some handsome half-blood prince that shows up on the scene and steals Harry's affection, making Draco insanely jealous*
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
How many time do we have to wait to ACTUALLY read it ? *dies from curiosity*
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Neville. Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I love the design of her site. Is that all done in Flash?
I would love to re-do my home web site, because I first created it when I took my very first HTML class years ago, and haven't had time to change it much. Make it look more like a "scrapbook" instead of a web site. But I don't know how to do that. Guess I should learn Flash.
Farmgirl (also eagerly anticipating the book)
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
xnera- You are WICKED!
I knew there was something I liked about you... Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Eugh. That IS a terrible title. At least it's not "Harry Potter and the Attack of the Clones."
Posted by Suneun (Member # 3247) on :
It doesn't seem likely that the title refers to a character we haven't been introduced to. She said she almost named Chamber of Secrets this title instead.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
I had a thought in German this morning: Prince William! How ridiculous would that be?
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Harry Potter and the Pillar of Stroge
It could be so much worse.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Speculation time: Both Harry and Voldemort are half-bloods, but we know it's not them.
Hermione is of all-Muggle heritage, plus not really a prince.
Draco, Ron, and Neville are pure blood.
Hagrid is half-blood, but I can't think how he relates to the Chamber except that he was originally accused of opening it.
Centaurs could be coinsidered half-blood, but I wouldn't say it to their faces.
Snape could be a half-blood - I don't think we know for sure.
I think we can rule out Lupine and Sirius if we are to believe JKR's posts (and if we don't, speculation is pointless).
Slytherin might be a half-blood, and he figured prominently in CoS. Maybe there's some direct tie between Slytherin and Voldemort beyond the blood relation. Maybe Voldemort found Slytherin's secret writings down in the Chamber. All that could have come out in CoS if she'd wanted it to.
Gryffindor himself could be a half-blood, and related to Harry (it seems likely).
Dumbledore might be, but it doesn't seem like he needs another honorific.
And of course, there's always the Dursleys.
Dagonee P.S., my money's on Slytherin.
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
*ahem*
Just a thought - one person who could fit the description is Hagrid, if the Giants had royalty before degenerating to clan life.
EDIT: Didn't read Dag's post fully. The only thing new I have to offer is whether or not Giants used to have a King and if Hagrid is descended from him.
Wouldn't bet any money on it, but still...
[ June 29, 2004, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: sndrake ]
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Don't you hate posting something right after someone else does? Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
I do it ALL the time, but hardly ever get caught. Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
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Posted by Aeroth (Member # 6269) on :
The title still doesn't sound very Rowling-ish...heck, I would have preferred the "Mudblood Revolt" title that was floating around as a rumor several months ago. I hope this isn't the final name; I was expecting something more clever and original.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
The HP books have never had clever or original titles. It's always "Harry Potter and the Something in the Book"
It sounds just fine to me. *shrug*
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
I'm officially not smart enough for JK Rowling's website... Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
I like that there's no "of" in this title: Chamber OF Secrets, Prisoner OF Azkaban, Goblet OF Fire, Order OF the Phoenix. Heck, it doesn't even have a possesive like "Sorceror's" or "Philosopher's" Stone.
That was getting annoying.
Dagonee
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
So she's waiting for book 7 to call it Harry Potter and the Obscene Royalty Check ?
Posted by Little_Doctor (Member # 6635) on :
Harry Potter and The prisoner from the order of the pheonix inside the chamber of secrets with the goblet of fire and the sorcerers stone
Proposed title of book seven by yours truly
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
Pooka, she gets the royalties because we read. If we didn't read, she wouldn't get the royalty checks.
I say she deserves every penny. She's been very charitable with her money, but even if she filled her swimming pool with $1,000.00 an ounce face cream I'm still anxious to see what happens. Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
Actually, I've been thinking for some time that the Wizard world must have a tangible connection to the Muggle world. Are wizards responsible for impartant events in history? What was the Wizard world's reaction to WWII for example? Was Hitler a half-blood?
Occasionally Fudge releases information that "the muggle prime minister has been notified of Black's escape" or some such.
It seems to me that muggles in high places must be aware of the existence of the wizard world.
The Prince William thing doesn't seem so far off to me, although I could imagine an anonymous prince playing a role similar to Nicolas Flamel's in the first book, more easily than Rowling actually fitting a historical prince into the story line.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Actually, I don't read. Though I wound up seeing the movies because my mom buys the DVDs and my kids are avid to see them because of peer pressure from school.
I actually do find the J.K. Rowling success story interesting, though, which is why I would read this thread even if I can only reply sarcastically.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
quote: At least it's not "Harry Potter and the Attack of the Clones."
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
"Half-blood" doesn't make sense, if it is referring to someone with magical powers. The fact that both of Hermione's parents are Muggles while she is a witch, proves that the genetic trait required for magical powers is recessive, and must be dupicated on both sides of the genome. This means that both Hermione's parents must have the required genetic trait on only one side of the genome. One out of four children of such parents, on average, should receive the genetic trait on both sides, one out of four should not receive the trait on either side, and two out of four should receive the trait on one side, the same as the parents.
The upshot is there is no significant genetic difference between Hermione and a "pure blood," since you have to have the genetic trait for magical powers on both sides of the genome for the trait to be expressed, making the individual a witch or wizard.
If someone would just explain basic genetics to that idiot, Lucius Malfoy!
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Hagrid. It has to be. Otherwise that whole bit with his brother in Book Six was as pointless as it seemed.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Maybe Hermione is a mutant. It's interesting that while cystic fibrosis is thought of as a well-understood genetic anomaly, only 20% of the cases of CF in Asians are attributable to the same genes that produce it in caucasians. Sorry I'm not aware of the figures on Africans.
P.S. Got distracted by content. I was meaning to say maybe it will evolve to "The half blood formerly known as Prince."
[ June 29, 2004, 02:56 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
Posted by Alcon (Member # 6645) on :
Ok, how do you get past that bloody brick wall? I couldn't get the leaky cauldron website to load, and I can only get two bricks to go in. I can't figure it out, someone help me!
Never mind, I got the Leaky Cauldron to load. Bloody heck... of all the ways to design a website thats gotta be one of the worst. When I go to a website I'm not looking for a bunch of puzzle games! I wish she had two versions: one puzzle (some people like it obviously) and one normal links so that those of us who aren't good at puzzles and just want good old click and browse don't have to deal with them.
[ June 29, 2004, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: Alcon ]
Posted by Book (Member # 5500) on :
This is how I remember it...
There are 6 bricks... click the one in the middle... one above it, one below it, top one, bottom one. That should do it.
EDIT: nope, its middle, lower, upper, lowest, topmost. Then click the fan and it blows the pages at you.
[ June 29, 2004, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: Book ]
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Some intersting history on Nicholas Flamel
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
When I was in Paris, I went to the "Taverne du Nicolas Flamel," and "Rue Nicolas Flamel"... it was really cool, I got so excited, I have tons of pictures and stuff.
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
I'm not so sure that magical abilities are all about genetics. Then again, I didn't pay too much attention in my high school biology class.
If it were a recessive gene, and everyone who uses magic has the gene duplicated on both sides of the genome, isn't there a chance that when a witch and wizard have kids, a certain number of them will not have the gene? *thinks really hard back to high school biology*.
Yes, I know there are squibs in the wizarding world, but it would seem like pure-blood-and-proud families would actually be be hurting their genetic lines by only marrying people with the duplicated gene. Or that the Weaseleys would have a squib in the bunch.
This is assuming that I'm not using funny science with the whole genetics thing. I very well could be. But my answer to why wizards are born to muggles? Magic. Duh.
As to the title, I think it's either Hagrid or Salazaar Slytherin. And I'm liking the Prince Hagrid theory more and more.
As to the term half-blood, Jo uses it to mean somewhat different things--Harry is considered a half-blood but his mother was a witch born to muggles (to me it would seem like he's more 3/4 or 7/8 blood). Voldemort had a witch mother and a muggle father. But we know someone else with half-muggle half-wizard parentage. Could the Half-Blood prince be....
...
SEAMUS FINNIGAN?!?!?!? *dun dun DUUUUUUUUN!*
edit: 3/4 and 6/8 are the same, dummy
[ June 29, 2004, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: sarcasticmuppet ]
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Amd these pics are online?
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I guess a squib is a non magic folk? I doubt it would be one gene, since the magic folk have different talents (it seems) for spells, flying, potions, and blowing stuff up.
Posted by solo (Member # 3148) on :
Alcon,
She does have a text only version of her site. When you first go to jkrowling.net you can click on a link above the picture of her signature to get to it. Or you can go here.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
A squib is a non-magic person born to a wizarding family.
Posted by Mr.Gumby (Member # 6303) on :
Has anyone gathered the Spider, Potion, Leaves and the Feather?
I have all but the feather, can't find the one that you can grab. I know what to get because in "Extra Stuff" you can grab the eraser and use it on the blank paper above it and it shows you.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
This thing is "adjacent thread titles" gold, dudes. Posted by Book (Member # 5500) on :
It's in one of the other links. Don't remember which one, though, but it's definitely there. That happened to me, too, it's not on her desk, I felt dtupid when I found it.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Yeah, I've found the feather. Not telling! The reward is along the lines of the one you get for the secret thing on the Fan Sites page... and the Links page... and the phone... and somewhere else, too; I've got four things in my scrapbook There are probably more, too.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
Got the four items for the potion, got into the brick wall, put the medals into their boxes...but what's with the cell phone? I remember there was another thread with this website linked where people were discussing the cell phone, but at that time the website didn't load for me. Anyone know the secret?
Posted by Toes (Member # 4603) on :
The phone clue is in the fifth book...if you haven't read it than you probably wouldn't know where to look. I'm very excited about the sixth book whether the title is odd or not. Personally, I think this 'Half Blood Prince' fellow is Mark Evans. ...if Petunia had a brother...and he got married to a witch...and they had Mark...he would be a half-blood. It would also mean that Harry might be meeting his 'cousin' in the next book, when Mark gets accepted to Hogwarts. Just a thought Posted by JaneX (Member # 2026) on :
I think that's a weird title... But then again, "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" and "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" sounded pretty weird to me, too, before I read the books. So I think I'll reserve judgment for now.
~Jane~
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Well, I think it's better than Harry Potter and the Bloody Prince, neh?
quote: I'm not so sure that magical abilities are all about genetics. Then again, I didn't pay too much attention in my high school biology class.
So you missed the section on the genetic transmission of magical abilities? Usually between hair color and ability to curl one's tongue. (Or at least it will be this year, in my class! *gleeful*)
quote: If it were a recessive gene, and everyone who uses magic has the gene duplicated on both sides of the genome, isn't there a chance that when a witch and wizard have kids, a certain number of them will not have the gene? *thinks really hard back to high school biology*.
Nope. Double recessive (aka "homozygous recessive") means the ONLY gene each parents could possibly pass on to any and all children is the one they have two of -- the recessive (in this example, magical) gene. And since that would be true of both parents, all their kids would also have the double recessive. (It's like blond hair.)
I'm not sure I buy the theory that magic abilities are genetic, though. Interesting idea, though. Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
It's possible that humans were originally imbued with majical powers by the Djinn. They get passed on to the children.
So it's more of a genietic trait.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I think it's really weird. I was hoping that it would be a joke, but apparently it isn't.
All of my money's on Hagrid...
Posted by Book (Member # 5500) on :
Remind me what this is all about with this Mark Evans character.
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
Mark Evans is mentioned all of once in Book five, described as a ten year old who gets beat up by Dudley and his gang. Coincidentally in book five we officially learn Lilly Potter's maiden name: Evans. In book six Mark will be eleven and numerous theories see him going to Hogwarts.
Rivka: If we'd discussed the genetics of magical abilities in the Potterverse, I probably would have paid a lot more attention.
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Posted by Book (Member # 5500) on :
Wow.... Man, do I feel ignorant.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
sm, if you didn't pay attention, can you be sure that you didn't? Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
Has no one thought of the very obvious? Of course a "half-blood" prince refers to someone with only half of his blood in him! The rest has probably dribbled out somewhere.
Or, conversely, it could be a prince who is halfway made of blood.
Goodness, people! Thinking of half-bloods as if they are a mixed breed!
Posted by Jacare Sorridente (Member # 1906) on :
As far as simple genetics go- remember that there are many ways that alleles interact beyond simple recessive and dominant, as well as the fact that many human traits are controlled by more than a single gene.
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*gets plot bunny of some handsome half-blood prince that shows up on the scene and steals Harry's affection, making Draco insanely jealous*
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There are probably more, too.