FT as in Fraternal Twins-- very closely related by not identical.
These are words that have similar, but different meanings. The problem is that many people get them confused.
This came up in the Immunization/Autism thread when it was pointed out that many people confuse Causation with Correlation.
Correlation--two things happen at the same or similar times.
Causation--one thing causes another.
Classic confusion. A survey was done determinng the correlation between Nuns who had syphilus and Sailors who had it. There was a definate correlation between the sailors having it and the nuns not. The result, it was assumed that sea travel causes syphilus.
Love/Lust is another pair of FT words. Hopefully we out grow that confusion by 20, or else we are in for a lifetime of hurt.
Explanation/Excuse is an important one to distinguish. We can explain why the 9/11 terrorists did what they did. We can not excuse it.
What other FT Words should we bring out into the light.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Imminent: About to happen, implies ominous
Eminent: Outstanding
Emanent: Radiating from the nature of
Now I can't tell if I've spelled them right.
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
apprise/appraise Many people use the word appraised when they actually want to use apprised. Apprised means keeping informed, up to date. Appraised is a valuation. You have your property appraised.
[ July 12, 2004, 05:54 PM: Message edited by: punwit ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
effect: something that results from a caust affect: description that somthing influences something else
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
Ascribe/Subscribe Preview/Purview Imply/Infer Insure/Ensure
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
perscription/subscription
Posted by Snarky (Member # 4406) on :
I recently edited an article in which the author repeatedly used "adduced" to mean "deduced." I read it very carefully over and over again, and I looked them up and read the definitions very carefully, so I feel confident in my change. I just can't figure out why he would choose that word. I really hope it wasn't just because he thought it sounded fancier.
Posted by HollowEarth (Member # 2586) on :
deprecate/depreciate
they can have similar, but not identical meanings. Besides which they differ in only 1 letter.
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
bemused and amused
I have a friend who thinks the former is a synonym for the latter. I tell her it's not, and she doesn't believe me. I look it up in the dictionary and show her, she says "huh" and then forgets in about a week.
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
Isn't it artists that wish to be mused?
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
penultimate/ultimate. The first means next to last. The second means last.
Posted by Snarky (Member # 4406) on :
Wait wait wait—so does "first" mean "next" or "last"? It can't be both.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Just in case you weren't kidding (I'm tired):
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
In this list, 7 is the penultimateentry. 8 is ultimate entry.
Dagonee
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
That was one of the little touches I really liked about "Big Trouble", the construction company named "Penultra".
My high school boyfriend who was apparently a really good writer in most respects, wrote me a note once in which he had something to say of "penultimate" importance.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Well, I always thought that penultimate was the same as ultimate (only MORE ultimate), until there was a thread on the word some time ago. Now I can impress people with my understanding of the word "penultimate" .
What about words like Pacific and specific? Are those "fraternal twin" words?
EDIT: What about empress/impress?
[ July 12, 2004, 08:36 PM: Message edited by: Teshi ]
Posted by Snarky (Member # 4406) on :
Sheesh, Dags. You really were tired, eh? Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
famous/infamous -- "He's so famous, he's infamous!"
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
flammable/inflammable
Oh, wait . . .
Posted by HollowEarth (Member # 2586) on :
flammable/inflammable
edit: ah its here now. and Rivka is right anyway....
[ July 14, 2004, 12:13 AM: Message edited by: HollowEarth ]
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Most of these are good FT Words.
It just wasn't going the way I thought it would. We are doing FT as in Sounds alike so must be alike. I was going more along the lines of totally different words that people confuse.
Example Culture and Religion.
There are people who are of the Jewish Culture, who are not neccesarily of the Jewish Religion. They may be agnostic or aethiestic or even Christian.
There is a wide confusion in the west between those of Islamic Religion, and the various cultures that exist around the world where the majority of people are Islamic. Where Islam doesn't promote violence, there are cultures in the mid-east that do. Attacking Islam is not the same as attacking those cultures.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
quote: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
In this list, 7 is the penultimateentry. 8 is ultimate entry.
So is 6 the antepenultimate entry?
Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :
To quote the late, great Lewis Grizzard (author of Elvis Is Dead and I Don't Feel So Good Myself; Shot Low, Boys! They're Riding Shetland Ponies; and Cathy Sue Loudermilk, I Love You!)
Naked/nekkid
Naked means you don't have clothes on. Nekkid means you don't have clothes on and you're up to something!
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I'll point out Dan that Culture can pervert Religion to its own purpose.
And while Islam, depending on your interpretation may or may not preach violence, there are cultures and arguably sub-cultures that adhere to one interpretation over the other.
And to be fair, Christians and "the Bible" are no less guilty of such behavior in the past. For that matter, there are Christians who use selected passages from the Bible to justify their attitudes in a number of situations.
Why should we expect Islamic clerics to be any less self-serving in this respect? Although I assume the Christian and Muslim to distort the religion for their own purpose, it can be said the aforementioned religious figures are simply following what they believe to be the true meaning of the holy texts.
-Trevor
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Oh, I agree.
Culture can and does pervert Religion.
The culture of Iraq, Iran, Sudan, and New York City creates differences in the Islam that is followed in each of those places.
Just as the culture of Paris, Yorkshire, Plano Texas, Jerusalem, and New York City create variations on the Christianity followed there.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
How about censorship and criticism.
Too many times I see criticism of what people say, or how they say it, or when, dismissed as attempts at censorship.
It's usually couched in other terms (silencing the opposition, etc.) or sometimes only implied, as when someone claims to be "courageous" for saying something that a lot of people disagree with. In the U.S., that's usually exagerated, especially when the only response is going to be criticism - even vitriolic, mean-spirited, name-calling criticism.
Dagonee
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Nice. I noticed it in the rant against OSC's articles. The not so thin line between his Criticism and Hate Speach--(As in the label Hate Speech is an attempt to censor it).
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