[ July 30, 2004, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: mr_porteiro_head ]
Posted by Insanity Plea (Member # 2053) on :
Go back far enough and a lot of people are related, I believe the statistic was unless your family continues moving all over, every five to ten generations there'll be an intermarriage of nth cousins. Satyagraha
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I heard about a study that was done about that. After about 300 years, IIRC, almost every person in a certain sized population is descended from almost every person that was alive back then who has any descendants at all.
My Japanese sister-in-law found this pretty disturbing since this almost guarantees that she has some european blood in her -- there was some dutch, portugese, and spanish inter-marrying going on a few hundred years ago.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
And just what is wrong with Europeans? Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
They eat haggis, and that is just disgusting.
[ July 30, 2004, 12:35 PM: Message edited by: kaioshin00 ]
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
mmmmm... also known as the Magnificent Hotdog.
Posted by WheatPuppet (Member # 5142) on :
My girlfriend is fourth or fifth cousins or soemthing with George Bush.
I don't see what's wrong with having european blood? The more different bloodlines, the better! People of obvious mixed heritage look better, IMO, than those who are of a single genetic profile.
That's coming from a pale scandihoovian-type from Vermont, so maybe it's the lack of difference that leads me to believe that.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I agree with you, Wheat. That was my initial annoyance with the outcry against interracial marriages. When I was growing up I realized, "Man. These kids with parents of different races are the most attractive ones! Let them keep marrying!"
Of course, I was eight or something. Since then I have better reasons for supporting it.
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
quote: "Man. These kids with parents of different races are the most attractive ones! Let them keep marrying!"
Of course, I was eight or something. Since then I have better reasons for supporting it.
You thought about this stuff when you were eight? Shouldn't you have been thinking about other stuff, like, how to burn an ant with a magnifying glass?
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Aha!!!
THis just goes to prove my totally rational, not even close to cracking the pot conspiracy theory that shows John Kerry and George Bush are actual co-conspirators intent on world domination of rich white folks and dupes of the mastermind uber-conspiracy whose main goal is to stop me from taking over the world.
Yes, I do have my "Proud to be Paranoid, just don't tell anyone" button on.
We paranoids have a right to be heard. Why, the whole world is against us.
I am starting our own political action committee. Paranoid Action Committee.
It works in conjunction with the Bipolar Action Committee.
Yes, we are the BAC-PAC PAC.
But everybody is conspirering to giggle at our name.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
kiao: My best friend said something like that to me when we were in high school.
Her: "You thought about stuff like that?" Me: "Yeah, didn't you?" Her: "No! I was...I don't know...eating dirt or something!"
Although, I did spend a fair amount of my time roasting my Barbies, but I was in middle school by then.
Posted by A Rat Named Dog (Member # 699) on :
I think it's interesting that George W. Bush's grandfather was named using the exact same naming convention that John Kerry's parents used in naming him. Dad's middle name as the first name, and Mom's maiden name as the middle name.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Well, that would explain why people keep getting last names as first names. If everyone used that rule to name their kids, all the men in the world would eventually be named Smith, Gonzales, Chang, or a similar popular last name for a large regional area.
The phone book would have a total of ten different entries for dudes, and men would eventually have all three of their names be the same.
[ July 30, 2004, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote: And just what is wrong with Europeans?
I don't know how to say this in a sensitive manner, so I'll just say it bluntly. The Japanese culture seems to be one of the most racist and xenophobic on earth. It is *not* considered a good thing to be of mixed heritage.
My sister-in-law is obviously not as xenophobic as most, since she married my extremely white brother, and had a half Japanese half American child. But even so, she did not like the idea that she might be anything other than 100% Japanese.
Posted by Alcon (Member # 6645) on :
Heh, last I heard they were something like 16th cousins, both related through William Bradford. And they were both 9th cousings, through William Bradford , to the CEO of Playboy. I have no idea how accurate that was, but I do know that I am related to Mr. Bradford (I forget just how, my grandpa spent like 10 years doing geneology research and has the family tree for our entire family going back to the Mayflower and beyond). Which means that if the info I saw earlier is accurate I'm related to all three of them... damn...
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Oh, my. This reminds me of Jon Stewart last night. They did a piece on the morphing of Kerry and Bush into each other. Had to be there, but I was laughing very, very hard.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I heard a statistic that the farthest apart any two people on earth can be is fiftieth cousins.
quote:The family trees of all of us, of whatever origin or trait, must meet and merge into one genetic tree of all humanity by the time they have spread into our ancestors for about fifty generations." The "family of man," which has been posited by many religions and philosophies (it was a central concept of the Enlightenment, for instance), actually exists.
[ July 31, 2004, 12:15 AM: Message edited by: Elizabeth ]
Posted by fallow (Member # 6268) on :
Hey, didn't they both go to Yale?
Andover-and-out,
fallow
Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
quote:I don't see what's wrong with having european blood? The more different bloodlines, the better! People of obvious mixed heritage look better, IMO, than those who are of a single genetic profile.
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I agree with you, Wheat. That was my initial annoyance with the outcry against interracial marriages. When I was growing up I realized, "Man. These kids with parents of different races are the most attractive ones! Let them keep marrying!"
RAWK.
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Hmphh. In my grandmother's geneological studies (good mormon that she was), she discovered that my adoptive father (her son) was my third cousin, so I could really, truly be a prt of the family beyond the paperwork.
Why this is even remotely cool is that it means I really do get to be related to the actual Captain Blood. (N0-o - not the Errol Flynn version - the real thing.)
Arghhh, matey's. Hist the mizzen . . . or however that goes . . .
Posted by fallow (Member # 6268) on :
*wakes from a doze in the crow's nest*
CAW! (blue moon!)
CAW!
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
"Why this is even remotely cool is that it means I really do get to be related to the actual Captain Blood. (N0-o - not the Errol Flynn version - the real thing.)"
Well, Shan, it also means that I am related to Cap'n Blood meself. And Errol Flynn.
And, wait a minute, to my husband!
Ew.
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
It's more direct lineage . . . .
these things count for royalty - so why not for us poor slobs . . . ? Posted by Alucard... (Member # 4924) on :
Actually, there is a conspiracy theory that the Presidential Nominee that has the most significant royal bloodline has been elected President in each and every election. There is a British reference that tracks this and I will have to look it up, but it is 2AM here, so I will have to refrain for now. For example, both Bush and Gore claimed to be decendants of Charlemagne, Bush being the more senior in this case. As for Kerry, I was wondering how his family line would factor in.
At least with names like Forbes, Heinz, and Cabot being thrown around, the Proletarians of this world should have nothing to worry about.
Another conspiracy to consider is the pagan trend of many secret societies to follow the matriarchial bloodlines more than the patriarchial. In some arcane way that is bizarre and shocking, this is most significant. This may have something to do with the Bush and Kerry clans and the way their middle names have been issued.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
"As for Kerry, I was wondering how his family line would factor in."
Kerry's father's line is Austrian-Jewish, though he did not find this out until recently. His mother, I believe, is a Boston blue-blood. He used to be a bigwig in the Boston and Holyoke St. Pat's Day parades, and now he is not, since his Irish heritage was a sham. Not HIS sham, but his dad's.(or grandfather's)Or so he says.
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