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Posted by Toranaga-sama (Member # 4966) on :

This scared me enough to need to come back and ask the people I still consider wise. Offer opinions or anything you think appropriate. Takes a while to load for some, but it is worth your time.

http://www.scothew.com/~fastred/pentagon%5b1%5d.swf

Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :

Here's a different, but similar, conspiracy theory:

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

And here is the about.com urban legend page response to it:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm

FWIW

Posted by Brian J. Hill (Member # 5346) on :

It's a well-made video, but so are many propaganda films. It is made for one purpose--to cast doubt on the claims that American 77 hit the Pentagon. This is unlikely, for one main reason: If it didn't hit the Pentagon, where the hell did American 77 go? You can't really hide a plane crash that size, it is a pretty well documented fact that the plane did disappear from radar, and I don't believe in the Bermuda Triangle, especially in West Virginia, where the radar contact was lost.

Then there is tha matter of phone conversations. Barbara Olsen, a passenger on American 77, called her husband, Ted Olson, the soliciter general of the U.S., at least 2 separate times from the plane and told him it had been hijacked (source: 9/11 Commision Report, page 9, plus notes.) Also, Renee May, another passenger, called her mother Nancy and informed her of the hijacking.

If a plane is disappears from radar contact due to its transponder being turned off, and two passengers call loved ones saying it has been hijacked, then it is likely that it has indeed been hijacked. If that plan is heading towards the Pentagon at the time radar contact is lost, and 43 minutes later there is a massive explosion at the Pentagon, then it is indeed likely that it was American 77 that crashed into the Pentagon.

Posted by The Federal Government (Member # 6807) on :

Yes. The plane was hijacked.

There is no conspiracy.

Please, all stand up and repeat after me:

"There is no conspiracy
There is no conspiracy
There is no conspiracy
There is no conspiracy"

Thank you.

You may now return to your normal, daily lives. We will take care of the rest.

Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :

As far as I can tell without doing any actual double-checking and relying purely upon memory *grin*, all the facts in that animation are accurate. However, against this must be weighed the disappearance of a plane, a reported hijacking, and the complete absence of motive behind a fraud of this nature (and complexity).

Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :

[Big Grin]

::wonders if Jon Boy has returned to Hatrack::

Posted by Brian J. Hill (Member # 5346) on :

So, yeah, Tom took 53 words to say what I took 231 words to say. But at least I had a link [Smile]

Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :

Good video, I bet I could do better.

Posted by Fitz (Member # 4803) on :

Prove it.

Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :

Hang on. The wife of the solicitor general of the US was on the plane? Isn't that a rather sharpish coincidence? And after all, it might not be so difficult for the US government to make an airliner disappear. Perhaps comrade Olsen needed a divorce, and two birds were downed with one stone? [Angst]

Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :

If I had the time to blow, I would.