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Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Has anyone seen the new Kerry commercial? I have to admit that I kind of like it, aimed as it is at civil libertarian Republicans.

Is there such a thing as a Republican that's going to vote for Kerry? Any Repubs on the board want to fess up to it?

I've seen lots of Republicans who are disgusted with Bush, but I don't think they've said that they are going to vote for Kerry. Rather, they are going to stay home or just write someone in.
 
Posted by BookWyrm (Member # 2192) on :
 
/Looking up a link for ya...

A Republican voting for Kerry and why

Been debating on whether to post this for a week or so...well here it is.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
My father is officially a Republican, and he's voting for Kerry. Of course, he's secretly a Democrat in Republican's clothing, so I don't know that it really counts toward the sort of thing you're asking.
 
Posted by kyrie (Member # 6415) on :
 
My grandmother comes from the south. She and her who family have voted republican ever sence the republicans moved right of the democrats

(it used to be the other way around, because it was the republicans that supported the freeing blacks and democrats the dident, so the south went solidly dempcratic. But then, I think it was when civil rights came up, the democrats supported that, and the republicans diden't and so the south when solidly republican)

Now, my grandmother became democratic when she married my grandfather, but the rest of her family diden't. WHen she went down to visit all of them this spring, she VERY was surprised when they mentioined to her that they were planing to vote for Kerry.

Economically conservitive and socially conservitives are very different, its sort of a rift in the party. And a lot of what Bush dose really flys in the face of economical conservitives... he is more of a rable rouser type and corts the social conservitives heavily.

So, in short, you have at the least a dozen fadeing southern bells in florda and other states that will indead VOTE FOR KERRY!!
[The Wave]
 
Posted by Paul Goldner (Member # 1910) on :
 
I've seen a fair number of letters to the editor at various newspapers from people claiming they voted for bush last go round, who will vote for kerry this go round.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Wow. Interesting stuff.
 
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
 
ive seen a couple REPUBLICAN FOR KERRY stickers around Athens
 
Posted by Lupus (Member # 6516) on :
 
I saw a blurb on the cnn that said somewhere in the range of 3% or repubs said that they may vote for Kerry, and around 13% of dems said they may vote for bush. THough I don't remember the source of their poll...I just remember that I was annoyed that they did not give the margin of error [Razz]

It was a few weeks back though
 
Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
 
I've said before that I plan to vote for Kerry. I'm not even against the war, per se--I just think Bush has handled it abominably.

I've also come to the conclusion that social conservativism is temporarily dead--it won't be able to make any more progress until we've lived under a social liberal for a while, if at all.

Finally, I do hold to some liberal stances. I think, for instance, that the environment is getting worse and it will take serious reforms to fix it. (Of course, I also think those reforms will crush the economy for the forseeable future, but I guess poverty is the price of staying alive.)
 
Posted by Zeugma (Member # 6636) on :
 
I voted for Bush as a registered Republican, and I'll vote for Kerry as a registered Republican.

Of course, this time around, the registration was a typo. I checked off the "Independent" box on the form.

Bush has changed what it means to be a conservative. It used to be calling myself a conservative or a Republican meant that I was in favor of smaller government, lower taxes, and less government interference in my private life. Now, the same affiliation has come to stand for government abuse of public trust, unbelivable spending, and a belief that being a "good Christian" is the only way to really love your country.

[Dont Know]

I don't really belong with anyone anymore.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
My father is a Republican, but he's going to vote for Kerry. He plans to vote for Kerry for president, but Republicans for every other office, in order to bring back the good name of logjam. [Smile]
 
Posted by Suneun (Member # 3247) on :
 
As far as i know, my mother is planning on not voting for Bush. I haven't asked her yet. I know she was intending to vote for Gore in 2000. Her reason? Bush is too stupid to vote for. She's a Republican (economic and social), but apparent ignorance frightens her.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I just want to point out that being stupid and being ignorant are completely different things.
 
Posted by Suneun (Member # 3247) on :
 
However, being stupid and being ignorant are not mutually exclusive.
 
Posted by IdemosthenesI (Member # 862) on :
 
Ladies and Gentlemen, there was an article in the New Yorker about a new set of ads sponsored in part by MoveOn.org that were specifically aimed at swing voters. They would feature people who had voted for Bush and would vote for Kerry, and would be directed by noted documentarian Errol Morris. Moveon's site has no mention, but if they were set against a white backdrop ala Apple's "Switch" campaign, that's probably them.

However, far more interesting in that article was a URL for www.ammi.org where you can find an online exhibit featuring samples from the political ads in every race where they have played a role. That's every campaign in 50 years! I have to admit I watched them all, but my favorite one was somewhat similar to the one you describe above. It was called " Confessions of a Republican " and it aired in the Johnson vs. Goldwater campaign (my favorite campaign of all the ones on the site. I would highly recommend watching it!

Incidentally, that was the same year of the most infamous political ad ever, for obvious reasons
and quite possibly,
the most unfortunate opening sentence of any political ad ever.

Good stuff!
 
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
 
Hehehe. I clicked on that last video, and yes, that is an unfortunate opening. But it's the last sentence - "In your heart, you know he's right" - that brings back memories.

You see, I'm old enough to remember the Johnson/Goldwater election. I was in third grade, and by that time some of us had already picked up a political consciousness of sorts. A whole group of us latched on to the popular reply to that slogan, "In your guts, you know he's nuts." Not very nice, I suppose (and caused some friction between my best friend and I, as her parents were staunch Republicans), but considering some of the people who supported Goldwater, probably pretty apt.

Oh, and also, there was a huge campaign billboard near my house that someone who didn't like Goldwater much graffiti'd by giving his photo a forelock and Hitler mustache. No, I'm not surprised that Goldwater lost that election.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
ldemo, the ads say they are sponsored by moveon.

I guess the one question is, is the woman in the ad a real republican or just an actress?
 
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
I think the Republicans should run this ad:

Guy: I'm a Republican and I'm voting for Kerry.... no wait, I'm voting for Bush... no no, definitely Kerry.... actually, I changed my mind again, make it Bush....

Voiceover: Even his supporters filp flop. I'm George Bush and I approved this message.
 
Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
 
Stormie, these appear to be identifiable people.

The New Yorker: Swingtime (Former Bush voters advertise their disaffection.)

Those in currently-running ads (as well as ones to run in the future) are identified here.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
My Dad told me everyone told him, "If you vote for Goldwater, we'll get more involved in the fighting in Vietnam."

Sure enough, he voted for Goldwater and look what happened.

Dagonee
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Interesting article, Sara. Thanks. [Smile]
 
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
They may not be voting for Kerry, but here is a group of Republicand definately NOT voting for Bush.

They claim to be 1 million strong.
 
Posted by IdemosthenesI (Member # 862) on :
 
From what I gathered, Goldwater seemed to be advocating using nuclear weapons in Vietnam. Thus the other spoof of his campaign slogan, In your heart you know he's right:

In your heart, you know he might.
 


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