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Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
All the things I complained about Smallville last season? The weird signs that Kal-el was "foretold" on earth in years past, the logical inconsistencies, the apparent ease with which Kryptonian powers can be stolen, exchanged, or granted, and ever-more convoluted plot twists that drag the show farther away from Superman continuity? All exponentially worse in the first episode of the new season.

And the thing is, I loved this show. I loved the characterizations, loved the slow discovery of the powers, loved the real issues of family and responsibility, even loved the love triangles. And the actors playing Lex and his father should have been showered with Emmys already.

I don't expect the show to follow DC Comics canon. Lex becoming such close friends with Clark has its precedents in the early comics, for example. But how can Clark keep up his glasses disguise when he does become Superman when Lex knows him very well without them? And now Lois Lane has met him as a non-glasses-wearing Clark. I don't think the mild-mannered reporter thing is gonna work with her...

Ancient artifacts with Kryptonian writing? Mysterious relics that trigger a remarkably coincidental reaction in Kal-el? Black Kryptonite? Black Kryptonite that apparently dissolves only shirts? Will Lex have to set up a room in the mansion to analyze the ripped-open jet now? Doesn't Smallville law enforcement wonder why Clark disappears every summer? How did Mama Kent keep the farm by herself? Doesn't the Kent family have, like, millions of dollars in medical bills now?

I still watch, but more and more I'm watching with a "what the?" expression on my face.
 
Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
 
I've lost touch with Smallville--my schedule is just too weird to hang on to any shows but my absolute favorites--but on the Black Kryptonite front, that's nothing. Granted that that was one color that doesn't seem to have shown up in the comics, it's about the only one. Back in the day, the ordinary green variety became downright scarce under the barrage of new colors. (Blue K only hurts Bizarro-Kryptonians. White K kills plants.)
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
I missed the season premeire due to another obligation, but video taped it (and haven't watched it yet)...so I guess I really shouldn't be reading in this thread,huh?

Farmgirl
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Yes, too many plot holes already - Lois saw Clark get hit by lightning. She's not going to put that together later when Clark and Superman show up?
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
On the plus side -- depending on your tastes -- Smallville seems to be embracing near-nudity in a big way. I'm waiting for the hot 'n' steamy Lionel Luthor prison shower scene.
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
**SPOILERS**

I was very happy with it. I'm not really interested in its following canon, though it is true that multi-color kryptonite was common in comics too.

The thing is, alot of this will depend on how things are explained. This episode is supposed to take the season to the next level. We sort of know where everybody is, but how did they get to that level? What happened to Clark? Is the Eradicator that library? What, exactly, is Clark's destiny, at least from a Kryptonian standpoint?

I think kryptonite freaks of the week (FOTW) are the past. This is discussed alot at www.kryptonsite.com and Gough/Millar (and others involved in the storyline) regularly read that site and respond.

I think the writers and producers want to create a consistant and satisfying show for the audience that really plays up the Superman/Messianic theme underlying the entire story. Hence, the prophecies and caves, the hidden artifacts. The story has become much more cosmic. One kid at the center of some destiny, conflicting with his earth values verses kryptonian.

The story is trying to become the modern Messiah myth, where things that happen seem to form part of a larger purpose. And in that myth lie many questions. For example, what is Swann's role? How does he know so much? How does he know about black kryptonite and what, really, is it supposed to do? As good as he seems, was he the person who 'killed' Chloe as a gift to Lionel? Since we have a new thread that it wasn't Lionel, who else would have been powerful enough to do it, and why? Who left these prophecies about Clark? Why? What is that library? What have kryptonians been doing with earth and why? They've been around awhile, it seems. So the launch the baby into space to save his life seems no longer to be the primary purpose.

This season starts off with a bang, promising to tie up last season's loose ends while expanding the story out of Smallville and into the world. Which is fitting, considering what Clark becomes.

Next to all that, I don't really worry about the future of Clark or how he hides his powers. Maybe secret identity is not important anymore. From day 1, it should have been obvious that once Clark put on the suit, Lex should have been able to put 2 and 2 together and figured out that Clark is Superman. So from the beginning, the mythos has changed and the whole "secret identity" thing has been a minor issue at best.

We'll see how things pan out. I trust these guys. They did Spiderman 2, after all. Look where the secret identity thing went there. Yet it was satsifying in the extreme. I love the new mythology. It's deeper and richer and makes for better characters and conflicts.

[ September 23, 2004, 09:51 AM: Message edited by: IanO ]
 
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
 
Yeah, the near-nudity bothers me too. If you want to showcase Kristin Kreuk's body, let's not be half-assed about it.

While I'm still on my shallow male mode, isn't the new Lois Lane a lot less attractive than Kristin Kreuk? Wouldn't Lois have to be hotter than Kreuk in order for us to believe that Clark would pick her over Lana?
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Is Clark that shallow?

Dagonee
 
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
 
I am. [Wink]
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
I'd pick Lois over Lana any day. Lana is still a kid. Lois is a woman.
 
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
 
Personally, I really enjoyed the premiere.

It even got me, well, giddy at some points.

Did we just see the beginning of the confrontation between Lex Luthor and Superman? That was PERFECT.

Lex knows SOMETHING strange just happened, but he doesn't know what...he saw only glimpses of the Man who smashed into his plane. And there's no way he would ever think that Clark had anything to do with it. PERFECT, I say!

I wonder how many more seasons it'll be before the show changes its name to METROPOLIS... or if the moment where it would become METROPOLIS is where they'll end it...

I do love how it's taken 4 seasons to get to the point where a Supes vs Lex confrontation may be beginning.

Plus, I absolutely loved the introduction of Lois.

[ September 23, 2004, 10:00 AM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
"Don't wound something you can't kill, Dad"
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
They have an opportunity to show something very cool - the transformation of someone from decent human to worst villian in the world.

It's really the most interesting part of the show - we know Lex turns out to be a villian seeking world domination.

Dagonee
 
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
 
That line made me clap my hands with glee.
 
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
 
I haven't followed the show religiously, but isn't Clark's attraction to Lana mostly hormone-based? I mean, what is so attractive about her personality? She seems whiny and indecisive, and most of her dialogue comes in breathless whispers delivered with a sexy helping of Kat-style eyelash batting.

Personality wise, isn't Lois Lane a lot like her cousin? If Clark went for personality, why didn't he date Chloe?
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
It was kinda weird for me watching it. I only recently started watching the first season fo Smallville. I have enjoyed it more than I expected to. I'm only through the first 8 episodes, though.

Then I go and watch the season premeire last night. That was weird.

quote:
Yes, too many plot holes already - Lois saw Clark get hit by lightning. She's not going to put that together later when Clark and Superman show up?
My father got struck by lighting, and I haven't suspected him of being superman. Although maybe I should start... [Monkeys]

For all you guys that actually know what happens in the comic, could you tell me which Smallville elements come from the comics, and which are purely smallville. From what little I know, here's my guess:

(SPOILER WARNING!!!!)

Reasonable close to comics:
Kent grows up in Smallville, Kansas
Lana Lang is a childhood friend of Clark

Pure Smallville invention:
Kryptonite turns citizens of Smallville into X-Men, at the rate of one per week
Metropolis (which always seemed to be NY to me) is only an hour or so away from Smallville, Kansas
Lois Lane met Clark when he was in high school
Clark slowly discovers his new powers
Lex and Clark are good friends when younger.
Lex is bald at age six.
Weird kryptonian artifacts, etc.
Whatever happened to make Clark get posessed by some kryptonian dude (I haven't seen season 2)
Clark's father is originally from Hazard County [Wink]

Please tell me where I'm wrong.
 
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
 
I think we're also seeing Clark grow up, too. From being the farmboy with the weight of the town on his shoulders, to the Man with the weight of the World.

Oh, and apart from Lex, the Kents are the best caracters in the show.

[ September 23, 2004, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
Clark had a thing with Chloe. But he's still a boy and so went for the more physically attractive Lana. It's been his dream.

He's been a jerk for much of Season 3, especially to Lex. I hope he acknowledged that one of the reason Lex goes bad is because of his inability to be honest and then his self-righteousness over Lex's deceptions.
 
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
 
we know Lex turns out to be a villian seeking world domination.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Smallville shows us that Lex is actually the lesser of two evils. Perhaps Lex had to consolidate his power in order to keep something even more evil (his father, aliens, army of the rainbow kryptonite coalition) at bay.
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
I believe that in some final Oedipal confrontation, Lex will kill his father, completing the Cycle of what Lionel did to his own parents, and will don the title of the new Magnificent Bastard.

In that sense, this is a tragedy. And Clark is part of its creation.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
vwiggin -- It took several relationships before I realized what kind of woman I wanted to fall in love with. When I was in high school, it was all hormone/whim based. I honestly cannot say how interested I would have been in my wife if we had both known each other during high school.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Smallville shows us that Lex is actually the lesser of two evils. Perhaps Lex had to consolidate his power in order to keep something even more evil (his father, aliens, army of the rainbow kryptonite coalition) at bay.
I hope not. It's like Galadriel said in FotR: "Yes - that is how it would start. But it would not end there."

Dagonee
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
"I want my son back! Give me back my son!"

"Clark Kent is dead"

Whoosh.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
"Clark Kent is dead."

Long live Clark Kent!
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
Of course! The crystal is part of the creation of the real Fortress of Solitude! A library that dwarfs the one of Alexandria!
 
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
 
IanO - I would love it if Clark were the main reason that turned Lex into a supervillain.

MPH - I guess you're right. Just because Clark has super powers doesn't mean he is immune to the silly mistakes we've all made as teenagers. [Smile]

Dag - There was this great "what if" cartoon episode where Superman and Lex teamed up to create a fascist state that exterminated all crime as well as all personal liberties. I hope Smallville continues to surprise us by expanding beyond the comic book canon.
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
Can't wait to read the televisionwithoutpity version of this...
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
I think it's been fairly obvious. Many people have commented on what a jerk Clark has been, especially last season. Also when he was on Red-K he'd treat Lex like crap and then come back to Lex like nothing was wrong and no explanation. Lex has been a better friend to Clark than Clark has to Lex. But Clark keeps accusing Lex and insinuating.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
In the comics, Metropolis is roughly Chicago, and is indeed a train ride away from Smallville; Gotham is New York. And Clark and Lex WERE friends when younger.
 
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
 
I may have to do the TVWOP version of season 3, as I am STILL a season behind. Season 3 isn't out on DVD until November. I dunno if I'll ever catch up. [Frown]

All I wanna know is, Do they keep coming up with nonsensical reasons for Clark to be shirtless/wet? [Razz]
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Really? I always thought that Gotham was Chicago/Detroit, and that Metropolis was New York. Well, I'm allowed to be wrong once per day. I just got mine in early today.

[ September 23, 2004, 10:34 AM: Message edited by: mr_porteiro_head ]
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
quote:
Do they keep coming up with nonsensical reasons for Clark to be shirtless/wet?
Yeah, they do. Chris wasn't kidding. They've been pushing the limits (though not to Nip/Tuck levels).
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
quote:
That line made me clap my hands with glee.
What was the line?
 
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
 
Tom Welling IS nicely put together and all, but I was mostly joking.

What I really want to know is, do they have lots of Lex In Jeopardy thingies like they did in the first two seasons? And does Clark, like, save him almost as often as he saves Lana?

I loves me some Lex.

The second season had this really funny blooper reel, with the Rosenbaum guy doing an Austen Powers impersonation in the jet (at the end of season 2, with Helen). I laughed until my abs hurt.
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
Concerning Lex, we'll have to see. I think both Clark and Lex have become (or are in the process of becoming) more independent, and as such, I think Lex will find his own way. Especially since he and his father are now warring (The line was "Don't wound what you can't kill, Dad.") And Lex has some kryptonite gifts himself.

The friendship, I'd say is pretty much over. They may talk and might be civil, but I don't think they'll be going to each other for advice anymore.

Michael Rosenbaum is hilarious. If you watch the two (season 2) episodes with commentaries, he's the one who is constantly cracking jokes about everything in the show: Luthor mansion security, impressions, etc.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
As Porter said, we are both starting to watch this series and are only in the first season (though we did watch last night's premiere).

I know a lot of people like this show, but from the beginning I have been intensely annoyed by silly little things--just how dumb the plots have been. I am having trouble getting around that to actually enjoy the show. For me, Lex is the most compelling part of the show right now. So the concerns Chris brought up about the primiere just seem to be "more of the same" to me. [Dont Know]
 
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
Pilot: What is that? A bird? A plane?

Me: [ROFL]
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
The MB (Lionel):"Zoo hours are over, Miss Lane."

The MB to Lex: "You're my son."
Lex: "God help me."

He's so great.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
I liked it. Mama Kent's actress did a terrific job when she confronted Kal-El in the yard. And flight? Hoo-boy. That was exhilarating.

The cameo's by Margot Kidder were just stupid, though. I didn't think Reeve did a bang up job, and I don't think Kidder did either. She's out of her league with the fine actors in Smallville.

I get the feeling Lana's going to become Wonder Woman. Anyone remember the necklace from the island Lex crashed on?
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
quote:
I get the feeling Lana's going to become Wonder Woman.
Oooo! I am all over that.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
No way. The time is ripe for a Wonder Woman show again, and I doubt they'll damage the franchise by allowing the story to be so rearranged.

Dagonee
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
Yeah, Wonder Woman would be lame. I'm not a fan of the crossover super heroes. I heard The Flash will show up in Smallville and I'm rather abivilant about that. And Batman would be ok since he doesn't possess any super-powers, so the universe is still relatively sane. But to start adding other actual superheroes would be too much for the believability of the series (such as it is.)
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I hope the time is never ripe for Wonder Woman. She's one of the lamest superheroes ever.

But then, she's less lame than Superman, who is the lamest superhero ever. They've managed, for the first time since I was 12, to like superman, so I'd be willing to give WW a chance if they did it.

[ September 23, 2004, 12:44 PM: Message edited by: mr_porteiro_head ]
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
Ah, but Linda Carter will always carry a special place in my heart. She always looked good in that outfit.

She was my first crush, along with Col. Wilma Deering (Erin Grey) from Buck Rogers.
 
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
 
So do we ever seen any Kryptonian colonies or survivors? All this science and spaceflight and they never set up a colony off their homeworld?
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Yeah. You'd assume that they'd find a planet with a yellow sun, realize it gives them super powers, and emigrate en masse.

Dagonee
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
quote:
But to start adding other actual superheroes would be too much for the believability of the series (such as it is.)
[Roll Eyes]

Four words for you. Freak Of The Week.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
quote:
Ah, but Linda Carter will always carry a special place in my heart.
I've been told more than once that I look like Linda Carter. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I hadn't thought about it before, but you *do* look like her, don't you? Have you ever been Wonder Woman for Halloween?

Porter, who was your favorite super hero when you were growing up? Wasn't Spiderman by any chance, was it?
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
[Blushing] I think I might be too embarrassed to wear that in public.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
You could do a "Wonder Woman in Winter" costume.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I can't imagine her being comfortable fighting for your rights in her satin tights.

I didn't really have a favorite superhero. I still can't say that I really do.

edit: I didn't see the 2nd page before I posted.

[ September 23, 2004, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: mr_porteiro_head ]
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
I've never seen pictures so I couldn't judge. [Wink]

FOTW was probably the weakest element to Smallville. Enough that the most panned episodes for each season is invariably a FOTW. "Whisper"- Nathan the high-pitch throat guy, "Iceman" or the Diet Girl (eating the dear- how uterly retarded), "Dichotic"- Jonathan Taylor Thomas splits in two. This has been talked about at length at kryptonsite which, I mentioned, regularly does interviews with the producers and writers and is probably how they keep a pulse.

The difficulty that Smallville (and X-files, for that matter) has is that there are two types of stories. 1) The Mytharch, such as we have seen last night, that deal with Clarks becoming Superman, his destiny, Lex's destiny, etc. 2) The lighter episodes that may advance the mytharch slightly, but are designed to be digested in 48 minutes (or however long it is). Some conflict and resolution.

I think the struggle is that if you make every episode a mytharch episode, two things happen. First, the show becomes even more soap-operatic than it already is. Thus, as the series progresses, it becomes harder and harder to pull in new viewers who don't know the back-story. (Of course, entire seasons on DVD helps with this, but still). Second, the series moves too quickly, the pace is too fast.

But trying for a "common" episode, with some relatively non-cosmic conflict and resolution is tough. The issues a teenager faces are difficult even with powers. But would the show sustain, week after week, a show about Clarks emotional difficulties. I think it might collapse under its own weight if it was just Dawson's Creek with powers.

Plus, we want to see him do things with those powers. Learning to be in a stable relationship or deal with an overbearing teacher or whatever is not going to call for alot of heat-vision or heavy lifting.

So how can you bring in the action? Bad cops. Or gangland types. But these are just high school students. How many students will be running into mobsters and syndicate members regularly, especially in a farm town? Hence the FoTW.

So it's a balancing act that, I think, can be done.

1/2 Mytharchs
1/4 WELL DONE, not gone in 48 minutes, realistic Villians (of whatever type)
1/4 Teenager problems
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
lanO, you can see for yourself: Linda and Beverly
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
I can see a resemblence.

Ian
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Ooo, just for fun, I did up another one real quick: Jennifer and Beverly
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:

I think the struggle is that if you make every episode a mytharch episode, two things happen. First, the show becomes even more soap-operatic than it already is. Thus, as the series progresses, it becomes harder and harder to pull in new viewers who don't know the back-story. (Of course, entire seasons on DVD helps with this, but still). Second, the series moves too quickly, the pace is too fast.

This was the problem that Babylon 5 had. There was so much story to tell, that by the third season, every single episode was an arc-heavy episode. As a result, it was almost impossible to come in and get anything out of it.
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
Omar at www.televisionwithoutpity.com gave it a B and the ratings did fairly well at 5.5 million. So it's safe.

[ September 23, 2004, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: IanO ]
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
OK, I had to do just one more. If only that I have been thinking about doing it for a long time now.

Beverly and Mr Porteiro Head
 
Posted by docmagik (Member # 1131) on :
 
(Geeky information overload to follow. To be honest, if you care about this stuff you probably already know it, so feel free to skip. Just tell me it was fascinating and I'll really, really believe you read it.)

The actual Superman comic book cannon chronology is sort of convoluted.

DC, you see, was in the habit of nearly reinventing their characters ever few years based on sales. It got to the point where they finally decided they had to own up to all of it, and find a version and stick to it.

So here's what they did--they created a series called "Crisis of the Infinite Earths." They said that all these different incarnations of all these superheros were really all on different earths in parrallel universes. They then created a villian who could cross these universes, and he started destroying all the alternate realities.

Also killed were a few major characters like Supergirl and the first Flash (Barry Allen, the guy on the TV show).

Prior to this, the character of Lex Luthor was a scientist. You may remember him with the big purple suit that looked like Leader 1's armor from the Go-Bots. The first Superman movie was kind of based on this Lex, but had hints of the Lex we know now. He was the "world's greatest scientist" and really evil.

This version of Superman and Lex Luthor had to weather the Fifties, a period of time when comics were told they could have no sex, violence, or any of the other staples comics were previously, and would later again be, built on.

This was the period that gave us the Batman adventures about saving dolphins and Flash stories about saving diamonds. It featured lots and lots of riddles (as was mocked on the Batman TV show).

During this phase, they created about a million super-spinoff characters. Superboy, Supergirl, Krypto, the super-dog, and yes, even Supergirl had a pet, Comet, the super-horse.

During this time, they also created, in the Superboy storyline, overlaps with a young red-haired Lex Luthor. While the relationship started out positive, various events between them (Lex and Superboy, not Lex and Clark) led to Lex both becoming evil and resenting Superboy.

For example, one day, they were palling around in a lab, mixing chemicals in the school lab, really buddy-buddy (again, this was Lex and Superboy, not Lex and Clark), when an accident caused and explosion that emmitted horrible toxic fumes.

Superboy saves Lex from the explosion, saves his life, basically, but Lex reveals himself to be shallow and evil when he freaks out when the fumes make his hair fall out.

However, after the Crisis series, they decided to redo the history, and create one set cannon.

They employed a guy named John Byrne to create the new incarnation of Superman. They eliminated the whole Superboy thing, the whole Supergirl thing, the dog, the whole bit. Superman was back to what he originally was--a guy who became Superman after he showed up in Metropolis.

Not the same was Lex. He was turned into the wealthy, greedy, corporate Tycoon he is on the Cartoon. He was a poor kid who grew up in a bad part of town, and, after getting beat up a lot, became street-wise. He was controlling groups of organized crime at a young age, ostensibly as a messanger for someone older. He had his parents murdered, but had it made to look like a car accident.

However, as I understand it (I haven't read a comic in a few years) the current incarnation of Superman is now getting flashbacks from the silver age. The dog has shown up again, as has the shrunken Kryptonian city Superman keeps in a bottle at the Fortress of Solitude.

So why do I go through all this? A couple reasons.

First, because some people seemed to have questions, and I thought I'd answer some.

Second, to say that since the Superman "cannon" has never really been all that set in stone to begin with, so mixing it up and messing with it for dramatic effect is actually being more true to the source material than trying to be true and faithful to every tiny little aspect of the history.

For the first few years, they were floundering about to explain his powers. Was Kryton a planet of Super-men? Did Kryptonian technology provide super-advanced diets? Try that for a few years, but then realize the guy's eating Earth food now. Did the super-gravity of Krypton make it's inhabitant's stronger?

In the first few years, Superman couldn't even fly, which is now his trademark power.

So it's okay. They can fudge things here and there. Let the Romans rename the Greek gods and revamp the temples. Then let them see what new and exciting tales we can spin to each other then.
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
Say what you will about Margo Kidder's cameo...but her line about loving Dr. Swan "in another life"(not exact, from memory) was pretty damn hilarious.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I don't really watch the show, so I can only comment on the few shows I have seen...

But Superman, in his original incarnation, couldn't fly at all.

Hence the "leaps tall buildings with a single bound" line. He would just super-jump from pace to place.

Kwea
 
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
The writers of the show have done what the comic book writers have done for years: change the mythology for various reasons. Thus, the list of changes that were outlined above.

Boy, last weeks episode- Gone- what a load of crap. I love Lois and Clark's chemistry, but other than that, it stunk. I was really worried that the show had lost it.

Last night was great. Light. Fun. Seemed like a good season 1 episode, but the FOTW wasn't a psycho and was actually very sympathetic.

And Ohhh, how I love Lois. If only...

Only down side is, I hope they get to explaining all the mythos stuff that happened at the end of last season and beginning of this one before too long.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
I gotta admit I liked all the fake IDs for the Flash. Excellent way to not commit to which Flash it was.

Plus, where do they get that sound effect for really fast running? It's the same one from the old The Flash series.

Dagonee
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I don't know that beverly looks like Wonder Woman so much as emitting her Amazonian aura of power blended with femininity [Wink] Seriously, I mainly think you look like that other lady. The one whose name escapes me at the moment.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
I saw part of that episode.
I love the Flash [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
 
I know someone who could be Jennifer Connelly's sister, the resemblance is so strong. It's weird.

[ October 20, 2004, 11:16 PM: Message edited by: Brinestone ]
 


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