I watched Love Potion #9 for the first time in years the other day. It isn't nearly as good as I remember - what on earth was I thinking? I had to keep skipping parts that were annoying. The greatest memorable scene was the horribly embarassing scene in the beginning with the girl in the bar, and then her smackdown later.
Even thinking about it, the part with the gypsies was fun, and the memory isn't so bad. Watching the movie was terribly painful, however. *mourns over a beloved movie that has proved to be a sham*
What other movies don't live up to their memories?
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
I remember enjoying This Island Earth as a kid, mostly because I recognized the Professor from Gilligan's Island . Then Mystery Science Theater spoofed it, and now it's just plain stupid.
But Forbidden Planet is still cool after all these years.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Hmmm... I can't think of a movie offhand... but I do remember thinking this one anime show way back when was the bee's knees.
MIGHTY ORBOTS! Super cool show when I was little. It was about Transformer-like robots created by a young scientist as they go out defending the Galactic Alliance from the evil Umbra, a living computer, and his armies and other buddies.
Then I saw it again as an adult... ooooooh... the animation was still good but it was SO STUPID. It could have been cool. But they had this stupid narator/announcer basically dictating every action... "Oh NO! The bad guys have now shot a laser at our heroes!" No sh*t, we just saw it happen...
Ah well...
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
quote:I remember enjoying This Island Earth as a kid, mostly because I recognized the Professor from Gilligan's Island . Then Mystery Science Theater spoofed it, and now it's just plain stupid.
Skillery! There is hope!! MST3000 showed a horrible sliced and diced edited version of "This Island Earth". The real film is supposed to be at least an hour longer. Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
Star Wars We just watched the DVD and I noticed for the first time that Leia watches her planet get completely blown up and is upset for a few minutes, then forgets about it. And Luke sees his dead aunt and uncle and his response is, "yay, now I can do all the stuff I want to do!"
Has anyone else noticed that Anakin, who cares about and mourns his mother's death is the evil one; while Luke, who couldn't care less about his gaurdian's deaths is the good one?
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
My favorite movie as a child.
"The Huggabunch Movie". If you have 99 cents and a free couple of hours and would like to see a movie that desperately *needs* to be spoofed by MST3000, this is the movie for you. Although, it's really more of a fantasy than SF.
I watched it with some girlfriends not long ago and it was the first time I'd seen it in over 15 years. It was terrible.
Posted by unicornwhisperer (Member # 294) on :
Shera and the secret of the sword.... of course I was 5 when I saw it over and over and over. Watched it a couple months ago... couldn't really even watch the whole thing.
[ September 28, 2004, 12:44 PM: Message edited by: unicornwhisperer ]
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Hey! Hush! You're going to ruin it for me!
*pats She-ra doll*
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
According to the Jedi mythology, strong emotions are bad.
Strong emotions lead Anakin to the Dark Side while Luke's relative indifference keeps him on the straight and narrow.
-Trevor
Posted by IdemosthenesI (Member # 862) on :
Luke? Luke is in the new DVDs. I heard from an unimpeachable source he had been replaced by a light-saber wielding six foot CG cat named Meow Skywalker. Thet is, after all, how George Lucas had "originally" intended it, but "the technology wasn't available at the time."
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Flight of the Navigator Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:According to the Jedi mythology, strong emotions are bad.
Isn't that somewhat Buddhist? That is very, very not romantic Western thinking.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Snicker. Some things you watch because they're bad.
Of course, I had such a major crush on the Sorceress.
Of course, I was also the kid yelling battle tactics to "Star Blazers" at the tender age of 8.
-Trevor
Posted by unicornwhisperer (Member # 294) on :
Oh don't get me wrong I still think She-ra's awesome. Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I think the cat's in episode V we just saw IV.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I stopped worrying about it after Anakin became the Jesus of Star Wars.
-Trevor
Edit: And don't get me started on the butchery Lucas did with the Solo/Greedo gunfight. I refuse to watch any of the Star Wars films because of that.
[ September 28, 2004, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: TMedina ]
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
And when Han Solo shot Greedo that used to be the hottest scene in the movie.
*mourns*
Actually, in that one scene, Han Solo was the hottest guy ever to exist. (or not exist, as the case may be)
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
This is, of course, a phenomenon known as the "Highlander Effect".
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Has anybody seen the movie Scavenger Hunt? I loved that when I was younger, and we recently bought it off of EBay.
I should have saved my money. Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
quote: And don't get me started on the butchery Lucas did with the Solo/Greedo gunfight. I refuse to watch any of the Star Wars films because of that.
Yes. A few frames that made Solo and Greedo fire at the same time instead of Solo shooting first in cold blood totally ruined the entire dramatic pull of the entire six film saga, including the films this change did not even occur in. That is completely logical.
GET OVER IT.
[ September 28, 2004, 12:59 PM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
You don't understand, that was the best scene in the movie.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote: Yes. A few frames totally ruined the entire dramatic pull of the entire trilogy, including the films this change did not effect at all. That is completely logical. [Roll Eyes]
Just because it isn't logical doens't mean it isn't true.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
For me, that's precisely the issue.
Although to be fair, I try to pretend 1 and 2 don't exist anyway.
-Trevor
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
There was a time when The Neverending Story first came out when it was my favorite movie. It just blew my mind. I thought it was the greatest thing ever.
Now I think it's kind of cute, but parts of it are unbearably cheesy.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Gremlins. I remembered thinking it was kind of deep how her father died at Christmastime. Posted by fil (Member # 5079) on :
No, the Han/Greedo scene IS important, to the Original Trilogy at least. Here is a guy who doesn't believe in luck, every being for itself, opportunistic scoundrel who, when pressed, has no qualms about shooting first when needed. By the end of his arc in Empire (in Jedi he was a prop) he had become a full blown romantic anti-hero who does the right thing because he should, though he always will pay for his past by having a price on his head.
Changing the one moment makes him a guy who is VERY lucky old softy who won't shoot unless shot at. It is a fairly important establishing shot for Han...though it is even more undercut by his lack of fearful return to Jabba in the formerly (and once wisely) deleted scene.
As for movies that aren't nearly as good years later? The original "Batman" movie blew me away when I first saw it but in later viewings, it pales partially because of the diminishing sequels but also because the material was handled so much better in the animated shows that followed.
fil
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
Ah. So you're saying George Lucas doesn't understand his own movie. Understood.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
fil just neatly explained why I refuse to buy Star Wars on DVD.
I will, however, gladly pay someone money to burn some DVDs from existing laserdisc versions of the original films, if someone has 'em.
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Taal, I think the case can be convincingly made that George Lucas has never completely understood his own movies. Certainly, the films he made since RotJ (and arguably RotJ itself) suggest that he's not entirely sure why people like his movies, or why they were effective in the first place.
[ September 28, 2004, 01:43 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
One point of contention to an otherwise masterful summation - Solo does live by luck and is quite the gambler. In contrast, Obi-Wan Kenobi says "in my experience there is no such thing as luck."
Solo is an unrepentant rogue who believes in nothing more than the reach of his blaster and the confines of his ship, initially.
-Trevor
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
quote:So you're saying George Lucas doesn't understand his own movie.
No, I think he's saying that George Lucas is a sellout to the new PC hollywood ethic that began with all the soldiers jumping from tanks just before they exploded on G.I. Joe.
Edit because other posts have since appeared. I agree with Tom, Lucas is trying to hard to capitalize on his own genius and the result is narcissistic. He has fallen into the trap of realizing that he was cool and scrambling to get back there. Another example for me is all the booby dresses in Attack of the Clones. Being scantily clad was a mark of Leia's slavery in RoTJ.
[ September 28, 2004, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
quote:fil just neatly explained why I refuse to buy Star Wars on DVD.
I will, however, gladly pay someone money to burn some DVDs from existing laserdisc versions of the original films, if someone has 'em.
I, on the other hand, will be able to enjoy the films with superficial changes in dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound with gloriously and meticulously restored anamorphic video.
Your loss, guys.
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Seriosly, though. I'd love to have original cuts of the film on official DVD as well - but in ADDITION to whatever GL feels he wants to do to 'finish' them to fit in with the entire saga.
[ September 28, 2004, 01:48 PM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
quote:Certainly, the films he made since RotJ (and arguably RotJ itself) suggest that he's not entirely sure why people like his movies, or why they were effective in the first place.
Hmm. You're assuming he cares. I've aways got the impression he's made these movies for himself, and as so, has every right to do whatever the hell he wants with them.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
As I have a two-speaker setup at home and am perfectly happy with the video quality of a laserdisc, I'm not heartbroken. And while Lucas has the RIGHT to ruin his own movies, I have every right to not only complain about it but express my displeasure by not paying him money to do so.
Frankly, what you just said makes it easier to understand why you don't mind Lucas' rape of his own work; you're the kind of guy who kind of liked the pod races.
[ September 28, 2004, 01:48 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*munches popcorn* This is better than the movies.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I objected to the idea that Solo was a particularly nice guy who wouldn't take advantage of a situation to save his own skin.
Shooting a bounty hunter under the table by surprise is a wonderful way of demonstrating Solo's outlook on life.
As to his understanding of his films - I don't think he does either. Lucas is so enraptured in his own fame and delusional glory, he's chasing wildly down this path of his ideal film. Well, more power to him - it's a shame I don't enjoy his attempts at a perfect movie.
And judging by the criticisms of 1 and 2, I'm not the only one.
-Trevor
Edit: Taal - exactly. And Tom summed up my response in perfect clarity. He can do whatever the hell he wants with his movie, but I am under no obligation to enjoy, support or otherwise endorse his vision.
[ September 28, 2004, 01:50 PM: Message edited by: TMedina ]
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote: I've aways got the impression he's made these movies for himself, and as so, has every right to do whatever the hell he wants with them.
Yes, he has that right.
But it's still not right.
quote: So you're saying George Lucas doesn't understand his own movie.
*raises hand* I'll say it. George Lucas doesn't undertand his own movie.
[ September 28, 2004, 01:52 PM: Message edited by: mr_porteiro_head ]
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
quote:There was a time when The Neverending Story first came out when it was my favorite movie. It just blew my mind. I thought it was the greatest thing ever.
Now I think it's kind of cute, but parts of it are unbearably cheesy.
No way man! Neverending Story is still cool and awesome! It's the reject sequels that are cheesy and stoopid.
Ahh... *hums the beautiful and soul piercing Ivory Tower theme*
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
quote:Frankly, what you just said makes it easier to understand why you don't mind Lucas' rape of his own work; you're the kind of guy who kind of liked the pod races.
First point: it's the fact that people actually call Lucas a rapist (generally in the context of "Luca$ raped my childhood!!!) just makes me shake my head.
And yeah. I did like the podrace. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I figured. See, Lucas has become the kind of guy who cares about digital sound and anamorphic video, and he makes movies now as if those two things matter. Whole scenes -- like the podrace -- seem to exist for no reason other than technology demos.
So if you're the kind of person who considers anamorphic video more important than character development, it probably seems like Lucas has become a deeper, richer, and more mature moviemaker in the last ten years. *grin*
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I have rather strong opinions on the casual use of the word rape, so I'll stick to using the word butchery to sum up his ham-handed efforts.
-Trevor
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
quote:Yes, he has that right.
But it's still not right.
I think the only thing that's not right is the fact that the original cuts aren't available as well, a la Spielberg's E.T. - if they were available, in my opinion all the hootin' and hollerin' would be unfounded.
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Interestingly enough, every review I've read of the Special Edition of THX-1138 have been outstanding - changes and all. Appears it's okay to change a film as long as one isn't already incredibly emotionally invested in the original.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Ugh.. pods...
Did you guys see on the Clone War cartoons, how Anakin's figher, while the cool blue and white paint job was fine, was not the standard Republican Fighter shape but had these huge too-similar-to-be-coincidence pod shaped engines added on... Ugh. Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I agree, Telp - I always said that if it was a neverending story, it didn't need sequels anyway.
And Flight of the Navigator still rox my sox.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Um, I could make the case that butchery is worse than rape.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
quote:Whole scenes -- like the podrace -- seem to exist for no reason other than technology demos
Actually, he put in the pod race because he's been obsessed with cars and racing since he was a kid. Ever seen American Graffitti?
He always wanted to put a high speed race in a Star War movie (the Speeder Bike chase in Jedi was more of a gangland motorcycle chase instead of an organized race). And he did - and it worked within the plot, too. You may think it when on too long. That's arguable. But it still worked.
And was pretty cool.
[ September 28, 2004, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
You can, Mr. Head, but one provokes an emotional response from me. The other does not.
-Trevor
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote: I could make the case that butchery is worse than rape.
Please don't. Let's remember that we're talking about movies, which are rather frivolous additions to human existence. Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
quote: Now I think it's kind of cute, but parts of it are unbearably cheesy.
"Artex!!! Fight the sadness, Artex."
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"And he did - and it worked within the plot, too."
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one, Dave.
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BTW, I think the changes to THX were, for the most part, improvements -- and it helps that they were overwhelmingly cosmetic. You won't hear me complaining about Lucas' cosmetic changes to his story; it's the changing of thematic elements that bothers me.
[ September 28, 2004, 02:01 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by RRR (Member # 6601) on :
quote: My favorite movie as a child.
"The Huggabunch Movie". If you have 99 cents and a free couple of hours and would like to see a movie that desperately *needs* to be spoofed by MST3000, this is the movie for you. Although, it's really more of a fantasy than SF.
O_O
That's the movie that I've been trying to think of the name of for like 5 years! Finally! Thank you! I remember watching it when I was little.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
So what else is new, Tom Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
quote: "Artex!!! Fight the sadness, Artex."
Hey! That's a really sad part!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
You know, I hadn't seen any of the Star Wars original movies in their entirety before the DVDs came out...because I was deprived as a child and once I reached adulthood, I wanted to watch them on DVD (I don't even HAVE a VCR).
Anyway.
I got the DVDs the day they came out. I watched them straight through.
And I love Star Wars.
So there. Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
quote:"Say my NAME, Bastian!" "STAR CHIIIIIILDDDDD!!!"
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
Actually, one of the most striking things about The Neverending Story in retrospect is how silly the Luck Dragon looks.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
You did NOT just diss Falcor...
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote: I got the DVDs the day they came out. I watched them straight through.
And I love Star Wars.
Yeah. I hear that people who've never had raw milk cheese can be perfectly happy with Kraft, too. Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote:Artex!!! Fight the sadness, Artex!
My dear friend Maria and I bawled at this one night when we realized that we had been living the past few months of our lives in the swamp of sorrows. I didn't find it cheesy at all, but then again, I may well be cheesy.
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
Another one that is still cool, but not as cool as I thought it was when I was sixteen or so is Big Trouble in Little China. I can still watch it over and over again, but I see more of the flaws.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Big Trouble is another movie you watch because you turn off your higher brain functions and just laugh.
-Trevor
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I remember what I was thinking of - Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion. The first time I saw it, I thought it was hilarious.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Good lord Annie, were you ferverish to the point of delusion?
I loved Mr. Wrong when I saw it, many years ago. I *was* feverish to the point of delusion at the time, though, so I have an excuse.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I hate to admit I watched and enjoyed "Sorority Boys" at a house-warming party.
Granted, alcohol was involved and I ignored the critical elements like plot and acting, but once you get past that it can be quite amusing.
-Trevor
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Prince of Theives. I saw this a couple of times in the theatre, and I loved it. But by the time it came out on video, I couldn't stand the idea of watching it again, and I haven't seen it since. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*raises hand* I really enjoyed Romy and Michelle the first time I saw, which remains as the only time I've seen it.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Really kat? I went into that one expecting to love it, and was sorely disappointed. Maybe my expectations were just too high.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
It did help that I went to high school with all of those same people, but it still didn't help when I watched it again.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I saw it late at night with roommates and cookie dough. This is also the manner in which I saw Dante's Peak, which I thoroughly enjoyed. Apparently a dog can outrace hot lava.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Between lava and my buddy's rat terrier...my money's on the dog.
I swear she can cover six feet and only touch the ground once.
-Trevor
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
There was this movie about some girl named Karen that disappeared when her friends were fooling around with witchcraft in an abandoned church. Then a girl her age shows up 20 years later and it freaks everyone out because they are similar and at one point she almost drowns and her little sister gets a puppy and names her "Narek" which is "Karen" backwards. Because someone was possessed and wrote it on a foggy window. I though that one was deep but I would fully expect to snort at it now.
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
I saw The Swamp Thing at a friend's birthday party in elementary school (probably not age appropriate, but his family was just that way) and thought it was cool. Didn't understand a lot of it, but it was still cool.
I saw it on TV a couple of years ago and couldn't sit through it.
Now I think I need to see Dreamscape again. I saw that around sixth grade (against at a birthday party) and it has stuck with me ever since. I just know it won't be as cool as I though it was then, but I still want to make sure.
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
quote:"Say my NAME, Bastian!" "STAR CHIIIIIILDDDDD!!!"
Um... It was "Moon Child." Say, has anyone else read the book? I loved the movie as a kid, but it's not magical for me anymore. The book, however, is.
quote:Another one that is still cool, but not as cool as I thought it was when I was sixteen or so is Big Trouble in Little China. I can still watch it over and over again, but I see more of the flaws.
I love Big Trouble in Little China, although I admit that these days I love it more for the quotations than the actual story.
quote:"What's in the flask, Egg? Magic potion?" "Yeah." "Good, thought so. What do we do? Drink it?" "Yeah." "Good, thought so."
quote:"What does that say?" "Hell of the Boiling Oil." "You're kidding." "Yeah, I am. It says 'Keep Out.'"
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
Darby O'Gill and the Little People.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
quote:There was this movie about some girl named Karen that disappeared when her friends were fooling around with witchcraft in an abandoned church. Then a girl her age shows up 20 years later and it freaks everyone out because they are similar and at one point she almost drowns and her little sister gets a puppy and names her "Narek" which is "Karen" backwards. Because someone was possessed and wrote it on a foggy window. I though that one was deep but I would fully expect to snort at it now.
Ah ha! Yes... that is a favorite of mine.. "The Watcher in the Woods".
It's still good and scary. And the neat thing is that it wasn't anything witchy... there was some sort of dimensional rip, and Karen and this alien being switched places... and that's why the area has been "haunted" by this unseen force.
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
I always wanted to see Watcher in the Woods, but never got the chance.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
quote:Yeah. I hear that people who've never had raw milk cheese can be perfectly happy with Kraft, too.
Cheese use is situational. I'm not putting raw milk cheese on my sandwich.
Just as I can't cram a VHS into my DVD player.
Tom, I humbly apologize for not loving Star Wars in its original, untainted format.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
It's not your fault. You never got a chance to see it at its best -- and, hey, I still think the films are watchable and enjoyable; I just think they're less enjoyable than they were, which is why I'm not paying for the DVDs.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Back in my day, we had to walk uphill in the snow to see Star Wars. and they didn't even have special effects, we had to act out our own using crude carboard cutouts that we fashioned from paper Pappy made out of discarded wasp nests.
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
quote:butchery Lucas did
*owns the Ultimate Star Wars Collection on CAV laserdisc*
I used to love Japanese monster movies. My favorite was Ghidra, The Three-Headed Monster . I really dug the singing midget chicks in the shoebox. I'm watching for that one to come out on DVD even though I know it's gonna seem stupid.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
Sax: You're right, my bad. Star Child is the 2001 Space Odyssey Thing.
Although I never knew what name Bastian shouted until I read it online...
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Yes, "Watcher in the Woods", Thank you! So why were they standing around her on the abandoned church altar chanting?
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I have no idea what any of you are talking about, and I've never seen most of the movies mentioned here. I did see Neverending Story, but I was desperately trying to sleep and kept getting poked in the side to see if I was awake. I'm not fond of the movie.
Although I do remember the Sorrows scene. Even in my annoyance, that made me cry.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
Speaking of Japanese Monster Movies - the Original Godzilla (ゴジラ) is finally being released uncut in its original Japanese form here in the states (sans the american-added Raymond Burr!). It's in very few selected theaters now.
[ September 28, 2004, 02:55 PM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Okay, fair enough.
And if ever presented with the opportunity, I would watch it in the original version.
But I hadn't seen the movies before and couldn't understand why folks liked them so much. Now, I think on some levels, I do.
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
quote:Although I never knew what name Bastian shouted until I read it online...
To be fair, I only know it because it's in the book.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Okay, I guess maybe Lucas had to change the scene where Han kills Greedo because he had the little kid Greedo be one of Anakin's friends in the podrace. It all comes back to the podracing debacle.
This could have been easily solved by having Jar Jar Binks be the one that Han cleverly blows away. Now that would be an improvement.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I heard Jar Jar is being inserted in the cantina scene.
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
And then there are movies that you enjoy just as much now, but for a different reason.
Mysterious Island was a favorite as a child, even though I didn't pay much attention to Beth Rogan's buckskin minidress back then.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
quote:I heard Jar Jar is being inserted in the cantina scene
You heard wrong.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
quote:Yes, "Watcher in the Woods", Thank you! So why were they standing around her on the abandoned church altar chanting?
Because Karen and her buds were just playing around... and then there was this huge electrical disturbance involving lightning that switched Karen into the parallel dimension and the alien being into ours.
Hmmm... of course it could be that their playing around AND the lightning combined did the deed.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
You told me.
Posted by Magson (Member # 2300) on :
Spaced Invaders
1st time I saw it was at 3 in the morning and I was in a weird mood from exhaustion, and I thought it was hilarious. One afternoon a few weeks later I rented it and made my sister and BIL watch it with me -- and apologized to them once it was over for making them sit through that piece of garbage.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Of course, I was also the kid yelling battle tactics to "Star Blazers" at the tender age of 8.
I agree. You have a wave motion gun. There's an enemy fleet.
Why is the decision what to do next hard? There are few tactical problems that cannot be solved by correct application of the wave motion gun.
And why didn't they just form Voltron and then the Blazing Sword whenever they saw a ro-beast? I mean, really. We know you're going to do it. The ro-beast knows you're going to do it. Hagger knows you're going to do it.
So just do it.
Dagonee
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Adam, I LOVE Flight of the Navigator... I wouldn't own it if I didn't Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
The Earth forces couldn't figure out why the Comet Empire launched wave after wave of fighters at their enemies well ahead of the main attack force.
My response was, "and you people managed to build a wave motion gun?"
-Trevor
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Loved it as a kid. Tried watching it as an adult. Bored, couldn't watch more than half an hour -- NOT a film that adults can watch, too.
(Now, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory -- there's a movie I saw as a kid, and that I STILL love as an adult -- lots of grown-up humor in there that I was oblivious to as a kid.)
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
You know, as much as I despise the Greedo scene, it's not enough to bar me from getting these movies on dvd.
And lets look at all the positives. Tons of great background changes in all three movies. The best movie of the three of them(Empire) is also the best Special Edition, with mostly background changes only and it'd be worth it to have that alone on dvd. There's a great bonus dvd with some pretty cool special features. The main one being a 2 and half hour documentary about the history of Star Wars. And last, he's even gone back and redone the Greedo scene again. This time Han fires back lightning quick, like he was about to shoot anyway. And realistically he was. The whole scene building up to that is Han getting his blaster out of its holster and preparing to shoot. In the long run, if Greedo got his shot off first, is it really that bad? Especially now that they pretty much shoot at the same time anyway?
Also, the Neverending Story was and IS awesome to this day. Yet Sax is right that it pales in comparison to the book. Which is still one of my favorites and most read books of all time.
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Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
I partially agree about Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. I found parts of it quite thrilling as a kid; especially when all the grubby little kids come pouring into the palace and take over. Now it's just so-so. Some of the songs, though, still make me smile.
"From the ashes of disaster grow the roses of success."
Besides, I can now appreciate exactly how scrumptious Truly Scrumptious is. Yum.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
I loveChitty Chitty Bang Bang! I never cared for Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, though, probably because I read the Dahl books long before I saw the movie, and it didn't conform to my expectations. The movie was cheesy.
My entry? Amazon Women on the Moon. I own it, so I still watch it from time to time, but the first half dozen times I watched it I thought it was freaking brilliant. Now it's just mildly funny much of the time.
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
The Ten Commandments. I grew up with this film, but it's pretty painful to watch now.
On the other hand, Ben-Hur still holds up pretty well.
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
I'm OBSESSED with The Ten Commandments. It was my favorite movie as a kid. I own it now. Love it *glows*
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
Short Circut 1 & 2... Money Pit... ach, there's more that I can't remember.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
I second SORORITY BOYS as being a movie i loved. There is a bar downtown that shows The Simpsons every Sunday night and then a random video/dvd afterwards, sometimes its a concert, like hte buzzcocks or something, other times its been boondock saints, or THE CHEERLEADERS. but that night it was sorority boys. i saw it again not too long ago (not that its an old movie to begin with) and it's every BIT as enjoyable the second time around. it was just ridiculously fun.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
I loved The Neverending Story. Still do. The book was better, though.
Dave, all I can say is I'm shocked you feel that good about the Greedo-shoots-simultaneously-thereby-sparing-Han's-superior-morality thing. It's like having the bad guy fall from a great height onto something pointy (after refusing the hero's noble attempts to save him, o'course).
I think GL's gone bonkers with male menopause and whatever you call it when a man has nobody around him who'll tell him when he sucks.
But whatever. He's given me many scenes of Ewan McGregor wet and variously bound, so I'll forgive him.
One movie that really didn't age well is The Hidden though I still think it's fun.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I'll second Short Circuit. I loved that as a kid, but it was just painful to watch about a year ago.
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
quote:My entry? Amazon Women on the Moon. I own it, so I still watch it from time to time, but the first half dozen times I watched it I thought it was freaking brilliant. Now it's just mildly funny much of the time.
I think it's tough for comedies to remain screamingly funny over time. A big part of the humor is that it's unexpected. This effects the sketch humor type movies like Amazon Women on the Moon, Elephant Parts, and Kentucky Fried Movie more than most.
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Dag, that post about Voltron and Star Blazers was awesome.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
George Lucas is getting testy about the complaints.
quote:"I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it," the filmmaker told Yahoo recently. "But I want it to be the way I want it to be...they [the fans] think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way."
*waits for someone to light the torches*
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Dag, that post about Voltron and Star Blazers was awesome.
Sign of a true connoisseur of 70s/80s Japanese cartoons.
quote:"I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it," the filmmaker told Yahoo recently. "But I want it to be the way I want it to be...they [the fans] think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way."
He seemed to have had no problem making a billion dollars from his "half-finished" movies.
Can I get my money back for all the tickets and VHS tapes I bought for an incomplete product?
Dagonee
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote: Can I get my money back for all the tickets and VHS tapes I bought for an incomplete product?
I'm right behind you, Dag. You spearhead the assault, and I'll come in and mop up after you.
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Short Circuit still rocks. I own that one too >_>
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Bah. The Neverending Story book was so much better than the movie, everyone who reads it forgets the movie.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
I liked the book better, but I haven't forgotten the movie. Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Am I the only one here who always thought "Short Circuit" sucked and highly resented having paid money to see it in a theater? I mean, I was 16 but some of my friends thought it was funny, and I just didn't understand them.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
"Spartikus and the Sun Beneath the Sea"!
"Once Upon a Time...Space/Revenge of the Humanoids"!
Those are still good...
OH! "The Last Starfighter" Hehehe... just bought that on dvd.
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
I just don't like a bit of the puppetering in it... Though, You have to love Benjamin
quote: Howard: Ok, so what if it decides to blast a bus full of nuns? What would you put as a head line on that!? Ben: Nun soup? Cosby: Ben! *covers Ben's Mouth*
Or Number 5/Number Johnny 5
quote: Stephanie is taking a bath, when Number 5 comes in. Number 5: Stephanie... Change color. Stephanie looks down: Um, oh!*covers self with towel* Number 5: Mmm! Nice Software! Stephanie: You sure don't talk like a machine...
Ahhh... I take that back, I still love the movie.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote:Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way.
My old Sunday School teacher grew up next door to George Lucas. She said he was a spoiled little brat who ratted her out for riding his dad's steers.
Posted by margarita (Member # 6856) on :
"Pollyanna". In fact, most movies involving Hayley Mills.
Except "Tiger Bay" because Horst Buchholz is yummy.
Also, most Disney animated features that came out when I was in elementary school and early high school. I tried to watch "The Little Mermaid" a while ago and couldn't sit through it.
If you still love them, I apologize. I just can't watch them anymore.
On the other hand, some movies just get better and better. "Gorgo" and "Mothra" were movies I watched over and over again as a kid, and I still love them. Along with "Forbidden Planet", "Horror of Dracula", "Dumbo", "The Day The Earth Stood Still", and, of course, "The Neverending Story", which never HAD a sequel, just like they never made a third or fourth "Aliens" movie, and "Terminator 3" just doesn't count.
"Buckaroo Banzai" was silly when I saw it the first time, and it's sillier now, but I still love it.
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the animation was still good but it was SO STUPID. It could have been cool. But they had this stupid narator/announcer basically dictating every action... "Oh NO! The bad guys have now shot a laser at our heroes!" No sh*t, we just saw it happen... ![[Wall Bash]](graemlins/wallbash.gif)
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Ah well...
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