You guys have heard of Netflix, right? You pay a monthly fee and get three movies for as long as you want? They're doing the same with purses, now. I forget what the site is... but it's like borroworstealapurse.com or borrowapursesteal.com or something like that.. where you pay a monthly fee of anywhere from 20 - 100 bucks and get as many designer purses as you want. They give you seperate envelopes to mail the product back. They even have a policy that states if you break a purse, send it back to them and they'll charge you a "friendly fee" for it.
Omg.. why is this so pathetic?
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Now is my chance to have a designer purse! Yippie!
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Only if it comes with a nice designer wallet filled with lots of nice designer cash.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
Oh my stars.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Not just one designer purse, Porter--all the designer purses you've ever wanted!
::convulses in a paroxysm of glee::
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
If my credit card number had worked the first time, I'd of posted that link a hellofa lot quicker.
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
Thank you, Tammy and BannaOj.
Bagborroworsteal.
Still.. i think it's stupid.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
It's not a purse - it's a European carry-all.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Would it work with power tools, I wonder? I mean, you already can rent tools but for some reason men feel like they have to own them. And so he buys a pretty cheap one and then has to go back and buy the one he should have bought to begin with.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
I've got my eye on this little number.
quote: BURBERRY MINI HOBO NOVACHECK SHOULDER BAG
Sturdy vinyl-coated canvas in nova check plaid keeps this bag looking new year after year. Black leather trim and strap. One compartment with hidden snap closure. One zippered interior pocket. Black interior lining. L. 9.5'' X H. 6" X Depth. 3"
I'm not sure I'd steal it at this point.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Actually, the power tool idea is brilliant -- except, of course, for the fact that shipping is likely to be significantly expensive.
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
i think they should do it with video games.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
I think our budding entrepreneurs out there ought to jump on this. It’s actually a very innovative idea.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Entrepenuers don't post on Hatrack. They are busy with other things.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Hm. Don't they ALREADY do it with video games? If not, I agree that this is an aspect of the business that NetFlix should seriously consider.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
Gamefly is the game version of Netflix IIRC.
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
I don't know how to feel about this.
Of course, they don't have Ferragamo or Hermes bags, which are the only ones I'd be interested in borrowing.
If they stocked Hermes Kelly bags (named after Grace Kelly, $8K - $84K) or Birkin bags, I'd be all over that.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
[ September 28, 2004, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Mrs. M, They do have some pretty big names though like Michael Kors, Missoni, and Yves St. Laurent
(wow can you believe I actually recognized them!)
AJ
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
I'm not as into the designer as I am the texture, design and eye appeal of the bag.
I'm a bagaholic. The only irritating thing to me about my love of bags is that I can only, without looking like a bag lady of sorts, carry one at a time.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
*shudder* Honestly, I've never understood the appeal of pricey fashion accessories, and have always been deeply, deeply, deeply suspicious of the kind of people who do.
I'll freely admit to being a bigot in this regard; I have this instinctual feeling that someone's worth as a human being is inversely proportional to the number of designers they can name.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think it's a hobby.
I have some odd hobbies. I'm very, very picky about my brands of frozen peas, and I have a huge collection little colorful hair clips. Like any other hobby, I think it's fine - it's like stamp collecting.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Except that it's not. As far as I know, even the most passionate stamp collector never received a letter from a friend and turned up his nose at it because it was posted with a self-sticking flag stamp.
Edit: I suppose it's because most fashionistas I know think of fashion as a form of self-improvement and self-respect; it's a way of measuring and demonstrating your worth. In general, Beanie Baby owners don't think people who don't collect Beanies are slobs who simply don't care about themselves.
[ September 28, 2004, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Guess my worth has plummetted straight down in a pretty linear fashion on your scale this last year then Tom.
I still haven't decided what to decide about "fashion" in general. But I did decide I should become educated about it before I made a sweeping decision one way or the other. I don't think it is any more superficial than modern art.
And despite my education, my tastes are still my own. I still wear steel toed shoes and I bought my new purse this weekend at Target for $12. My other one that I've used for the last 5 years finally gave up the ghost since the change pocket no longer holds change at all. The zipper on the pocket had been broken for probably close to a year but it only recently started depositing my loose change all over the floor in inconveinent locales. The one I bought was purcased completely with regards to design specifications that I could live with, appearance was totally secondary.
But do I know know who Missoni is? Yup. Is my life the poorer for it? Not really.
AJ
[ September 28, 2004, 02:02 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
So it's not the bags, it's the snobbery.
You turn your nose up at people who like podracing. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I sure do. Although it's worth noting that podracing and fashion have exactly one thing in common, and it's why I dislike them in the first place: they're all meaningless, self-promoting flash.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
It's a legitimate form of fluffy entertainment - sophistic philosophy games are fun for different reasons, but they end up being the same thing.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Applying the Netflix concept to other things: Good idea.
Applying the Netflix concept to purses: Silly idea.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
or you could argue (for the heck of it) that both are valuable economy stimulating tools.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Anna, I think one of the problems with capitalism is the assignment of value to anything that's popular enough to generate money. Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Man, I'm just agreeing with Tom on all sorts of stuff today.
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
Tom, you are making some insulting and incorrect assumptions about me. I have never in my life been ugly to someone because they don't care about their appearances and I certainly don't assume that they're bad people who aren't worthy of my time. It's unfair of you to judge me.
It's also somewhat sexist. I know so many men who are huge sports fans and spend tons of money (that they can ill afford) on things like baseball cards, autographed jerseys, etc. Do you assume that they're obnoxious jerks? What about a car nut who can name every make and model of every car ever made - do you think their worth as a human being decreases for every model of Ford they can name?
The reason I like Hermes and Ferragamo bags is that they are classic works of art. They are made using beautiful materials and master craftmanship.
I'm not going to apologize because I love fashion and I know a lot about it. It is something that I enjoy and something that I have been able to share with others to make them feel better about themselves.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Well even if the goal, is pleasure (be it pod-racing or clothing) There is always the industry behind the scenes. The fashionistas don't raise the goats for the leather they use in their fashions, nor do they grow the cotton or anything else. If they are big enough they *might* weave the cloth, but most of the time they just design the print pattern that the cloth is dyed with.
The actual entertainment Podracing (or perhaps NASCAR) for a real life equivalent, provides is probably the same. Actually owning a racing team is about as accessible as wearing haute coutre. I would say both are probably near equal in the amount of entertainment value the masses consume in information about the owners and wearers respectively.
And people do have jobs as a result. Is being an art museum curator any more important than either of the other occupations?
AJ
[ September 28, 2004, 02:14 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
quote: they're all meaningless, self-promoting flash.
TJ Maxx, Ross's or Tuesday Morning, now that's my kind of shopping. I love Target as well. Target is much more hip, much flashier than Wal-Mart or Kmart, in all areas.
Don't forget Goodwill. I've purchased quite a few thrilling unique items at Goodwill.
If I can find a purse, pair of jeans or shoes that have a designer name stamped on them somewhere, so be it. It makes me think I've gotten a better deal. More style for my buck.
I'm a sale shopper. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate a good design.
My husband has to wear business casual type clothes to work. I've bought him shirts at Goodwill. Nice shirts. When complimented on how he looks at work, he says "yah, my wife spent a whole $2.99 (or whatever it is these days) on this shirt, she bought it at Goodwill". He could care less about the brand, yet he’s pleased about the purchase price and my thriftiness.
He looks good. I'm tickled because he's wearing a Ralph Lauren shirt that I purchased for a few bucks. Win-Win
I'm shallow.
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
AJ, I'm stoked that you recognize those names.
I'm pretty traditional when it comes to bags, but I did get a pair of funky, Jackie-O glasses from Michael Kors this summer.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
I just knew you were a closet Diva!
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
quote: The reason I like Hermes and Ferragamo bags is that they are classic works of art. They are made using beautiful materials and master craftmanship.
Agreed.
I've seen some shoes that were meant to be framed. Not wearable mind you, yet worthy of prime wall space.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"It's also somewhat sexist. I know so many men who are huge sports fans and spend tons of money (that they can ill afford) on things like baseball cards, autographed jerseys, etc. Do you assume that they're obnoxious jerks?"
Well, um....Yes. But you may quite rightly wonder why I do NOT feel this way about birders, stamp collectors, comic book geeks, and the like. And I think it has to do something with mainstream support/expectation of the hobby. There is no Birding section of the NYT; the Washington Post doesn't do a circular every month on new comics available from Vertigo. No one has the expectation that, to get along in high society, someone needs to know how to identify the call of the chickadee.
Fashion is a hobby that masquerades as a useful, even necessary "skill" -- and I think what I really mind is that masquerade. It SHOULD be optional and purely enjoyable, but the simple fact is that, in practice, it is neither.
I hate MBAs and golfers (although the two are largely interchangeable) for roughly the same reason.
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
quote:Although it's worth noting that podracing and fashion have exactly one thing in common, and it's why I dislike them in the first place: they're all meaningless, self-promoting flash.
I don't know what podracing is, but I can tell you that fashion is not meaningless - it is a vital form of self-expression. It is also an art form that requires talent, dedication, and hard work.
Meaning is subjective. I find meaning and fulfillment in fashion. You find meaning and fulfillment in something else. The difference is that I would never judge or belittle anyone over where they find meaning.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"The difference is that I would never judge or belittle anyone over where they find meaning."
Depends. How vital do you think fashion is for self-expression? I recall a thread in which you and Jeff Getzin both expressed a belief that everyone should own at least one fashionable designer outfit. By comparison, despite the fact that it's obliquely related to one of my hobbies and forms of self-expression, I have not suggested that you investigate what podracing is, nor that you purchase at least one issue of Brian Bendis' Powers.
[ September 28, 2004, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Tom you are falling into the exact same counter-culture trap that everyone else is. You know the average teenager that tries to *rebel* and be different and then ends up looking exactly like everyone else. I thought better of you than that.
Why are you assigning inherent worth to things based on popularity or lack thereof?
AJ
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
((((Christy & baby girl))))
. . . . . . . . . . Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
And Tom even if they believe everyone *should* own a designer outfit, it isn't like they are legislating for it.
AJ
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
If I know Christy at all she's rolling her eyes and enjoying every minute of this discussion regardless of where she falls on the spectrum.
We could take Tom's exact arguments against fashion and apply them to henna painting, and then he'd be in real trouble.
AJ
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
It's not popularity, per se. It's necessity.
I assure you that, in my direct experience, knowing how to golf, recognize sports jerseys, and purchase the right designer labels are skills that, rather than being innocent hobbies, become necessary social forms for advancement. Again, I have never heard anyone, even among geeks, suggest that they would not hire someone because she hadn't played Planescape: Torment; I have, however, heard someone say that she would not consider hiring someone because she brought a Gucci knockoff handbag to an interview.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
quote: podracing
We're talking about Star Wars Right?
If not, then I have no clue what Podracing is either.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I bet you would expect though a competent computer geek to know "All your base are belong to us" and I'd hazard that if you found one that didn't know that you'd worry about thier competency. Even if it wasn't the first question on the interview.
AJ
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
Tom, I may have said fashionable, but I'm fairly certain that I didn't say designer. I regularly steer people to places such as Target and Old Navy and eBay, where you can get quality clothing for reasonable prices. I would never tell people that they have to spend thousands of dollars to look good. In fact, I always start fashion advice (which I never give unless it's solicited) with a disclaimer indicating that fashion is not what makes a person beautiful.
Everyone wears clothes. When we look at people, we look at what they are wearing and that gives us clues about them. When you get dressed, you are making a choice about how you want the world will see you. That is the reason that fashion is a vital form of self-expression. It is a form of self-expression that you cannot escape.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I have a hard time expressing myself civilly over a business that values a bag as more than our adjusted gross income. I guess it's just class warfare. I'll keep in mind that Mrs. M only alluded to coveting the bag, and not owning it.
Sure people have a right to do what they want with their money, I just don't choose to validate that.
P.S. For me this isn't about the snobbery of who knows what, it's about money.
[ September 28, 2004, 02:36 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
quote:I have, however, heard someone say that she would not consider hiring someone because she brought a Gucci knockoff handbag to an interview.
Well, that's ridiculous. I worked in HR for years and I would never refuse to hire someone because I didn't like their outfit. What is wrong with that woman has nothing to do with fashion - she's a petty person whose pettiness happens to be manifesting itself in a particular way.
BTW, I suffered plenty of ugly riducule at the hands of people who were into things like comics and sci-fi (mostly in college). I can tell you that snobbery is not limited to fashionistas.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
Computer geeks hurt my feelings all the time.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
lol, even though I know what it means I still think "All your base are belong to us" is one of the stupidest things ever. Definitely higher on the list than gazillion dollar purses.
AJ
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"I worked in HR for years and I would never refuse to hire someone because I didn't like their outfit."
While I believe you, you also said -- and I'll admit to agreeing with you, broadly -- that clothing can give you clues about a person. Is it not possible that a Gucci knockoff reveals "clues" about someone which would indicate her unsuitability for a position? How much different is this than showing up for an interview in a ripped T-shirt and Daisy Dukes?
At what point does "fashion" overlap with basic respectability?
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
quote: I still think "All your base are belong to us" is one of the stupidest things ever.
I'm so glad you said that. I've read an explanation of what it's supposed to mean. That didn't help me a bit. I still have no clue what it means.
Daisy Dukes
[ September 28, 2004, 02:59 PM: Message edited by: Tammy ]
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
quote:Is it not possible that a Gucci knockoff reveals "clues" about someone which would indicate her unsuitability for a position
It's pretty unlikely, unless the position is with Gucci.
quote:How much different is this than showing up for an interview in a ripped T-shirt and Daisy Dukes?
Very, very different.
quote:At what point does "fashion" overlap with basic respectability?
I don't think that it's very hard to see where the line is. Men who work in offices know that they have to wear (depending on the office) a suit and tie or khakis and a sport jacket. Women who go on job interviews for office positions know that they should wear either a suit or a nice skirt/pants and blouse. People may disagree on the nuances (e.g. is a polo shirt okay to wear to the office on casual Friday?), but I think that everyone is pretty clear on the basics.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
*is in office* *looks down at blue jeans* AJ
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*is in office* *looks down at linen skirt, pink sweater, and black strappy sandals*
I need to get into another profession.
[ September 28, 2004, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
wow.. who woulda thought that I had TWO topics that go to more than one page. *pats his head* Well done, Old bean.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
*is in home office* *looks down at pajamas* Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
quote:*looks down at linen skirt, pink sweater, and black strappy sandals*
*whistles*
Tell me, what do you think your boss would have said if you walked in this morning wearing Daisy Dukes?
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
hubba hubba?
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
She works for the boy scouts. He wouldn't have said anything. I'm still debating between A and/or B as to the possible outcome.
A) Turned beet red and looked away
B) Handed her his jacket while glancing away but wanting to steal looks at the miles of leg she was showing.
AJ
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
i agree with both
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
C) Thinks to himself "Man, I wish had the figure to wear that."
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Heh. Definitely B - for the jacket part. He'd politely avert his eyes from any lascivious glances.
My boss is about two years from retirement, and he thinks of us as his family. As in, when his daughter got married and moved to Tennessee, he had our group get what can only be called a family portrait done in the photo studio upstairs. It hangs in his office in a frame.
Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
quote: I don't think that it's very hard to see where the line is. Men who work in offices know that they have to wear (depending on the office) a suit and tie or khakis and a sport jacket. Women who go on job interviews for office positions know that they should wear either a suit or a nice skirt/pants and blouse. People may disagree on the nuances (e.g. is a polo shirt okay to wear to the office on casual Friday?), but I think that everyone is pretty clear on the basics.
See, right there you have aired the chafe. Respectable people wear the following. And those of us who do not are not respectable people.
I do admire your love of fashion, Mrs. M, because to you it is something fun. However, I also resent fashion because there are only a handful of times I have thought it was fun and I am forced to learn the rules of the game and play every day.
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
haaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha h ah ah a
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
quote:I have, however, heard someone say that she would not consider hiring someone because she brought a Gucci knockoff handbag to an interview
Okay, this is coming from someone who does in fact own one piece of designer apparel... well, accessory... but I didn't buy it, it was a Christmas gift from a boss because he didn't know me well enough to know my likes (and I turned out to REALLY like it!). However, if I were to find out that a potential or existing employer put THAT much emphasis on "the real thing" compared to a knockoff that's much more reasonable on the pocketbook and still stylish and functional, I'd be seriously questioning my willingness to associate myself with that particular employer.
Oh,and Sid made a very big deal of presenting me with the gift receipt in case I chose to exchange the Kate Spade handbag for something else... Just for S&G I later went to the website of the store where it was purchased and almost died of sticker shock! Absolutely NO WAY would I ever spend THAT much on a flipping purse! Of course, now that I have it, there's no way I'm getting rid of it, either. LOL
Back to Bag Borrow or Steal... I like the concept for situations where you do need something different from your normal stock - such as a wedding or corporate party, things like that. The membership fee was a bit shocking to me, even considering the kinds of bags they carry. I'll probably hang onto the address, though, and consider doing the "free trial membership" for the enxt time such an event comes up... assuming the site is still in business when that time comes.
Goody
Posted by Yozhik (Member # 89) on :
quote: When you get dressed, you are making a choice about how you want the world will see you.
I just bought a pair of black flannel pajama trousers with brightly colored pictures of different kinds of sushi (and the word "wasabi") printed all over them. Size XL.
What does that say about me?
P.S. I got them for 9.99 at Marshall's.
[ September 28, 2004, 09:31 PM: Message edited by: Yozhik ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:Kate Spade handbag
I have a Kate Spade handbag, and it's the only designer anything I own. I've carried every day for the past year and a half and it still looks good and works nicely, though, so I'm feeling better about buying it.
I didn't get it for the name - I got it because It's Perfect. It's small enough to be subtle unless I'm in evening dress, but it's big enough to carry my DayPlanner. The top doesn't zip, so I can just stick it in there without having to mess with buckles and things. It's rigid on the sides, so when I set it down it doesn't slump over. It's just wide enough to carry my planner and scriptures on Sunday, and it's just long enough to carry my planner lengthwise with the keys on one end and the cell phone on the other. I love it. I hope she makes it forever because when this one dies - in a few years, I think - I want another one.
And sadly enough, I have had a few friendly encounters with girls that otherwise would have ignored me because of the bag I was carrying. I thought they were insane, but I never would have believed it happened otherwise.
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXY and Z
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
quote:I have a Kate Spade handbag, and it's the only designer anything I own. I've carried every day for the past year and a half and it still looks good and works nicely, though, so I'm feeling better about buying it.
I didn't get it for the name - I got it because It's Perfect. It's small enough to be subtle unless I'm in evening dress, but it's big enough to carry my DayPlanner. The top doesn't zip, so I can just stick it in there without having to mess with buckles and things. It's rigid on the sides, so when I set it down it doesn't slump over. It's just wide enough to carry my planner and scriptures on Sunday, and it's just long enough to carry my planner lengthwise with the keys on one end and the cell phone on the other. I love it. I hope she makes it forever because when this one dies - in a few years, I think - I want another one.
Sounds like your bag is similar to mine, Katharina. And I agree with you, once I wear this one out I DO want another one!
BB&S had a grey Kate Spade bag that looked very similar, a bit higher sides than my pink and cream, that I'm kind of eyeing. Off to Neiman's website to see how much... and then start dropping hints to the bosses LOL
Goody
[ September 29, 2004, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: Goody Scrivener ]
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
grumble grumble grumble... I CANNOT find that Kate Spade RAchel in ANY of the stores I would have normally thought of it being sold OR on the KS website!! Finally did a google search and found it on some Yahoo shop (as in shops.yahoo.com/something or another) for about $200. I think I'd better lobby for it now or start saving up the money to buy it myself soon... looks like it won't be around when I finally wear out my dot noel sam (what a weird style name LOL).
Goody
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I bought mine online at Neiman Marcus, and they had a whole selection. I think they have an exclusive agreement with them - Lord and Taylor and Dillards don't even carry Kate Spade.
I do love mine - that's about how much I spent for it. I was horrified with myself, but considering how much use I've gotten out of it, it's completely worth it.
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
quote:I bought mine online at Neiman Marcus, and they had a whole selection. I think they have an exclusive agreement with them - Lord and Taylor and Dillards don't even carry Kate Spade.
NM and Nordstrom both sell Kate Spade. My dot came from Nordstrom, my other boss' wife works for NM. =)
Fields and Carson's don't even have online shopping, which was a bit of a surprise - but of course I'm blocks from both their flagship stores here at work so I may take a walk at lunch.
I was very surprised to see that the Kate Spade website didn't have this style at all. The only thing that came up when I searched for "Rachel" on her site was sunglasses.
Heaven help me, I'm starting to obsess over a purse.... LOL who can I blame for this?
Goody
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
omg... I started a womans forum *cries* WHY AM I SOOOOOOOO COOOOOOOOL?
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
Kate Spade stopped making the Rachel a couple of years ago. Your best bet is eBay. BTW, I wouldn't pay more than $60 for it. I had a grey one w/ a red lining and it wore out pretty quickly. I am extremely hard on purses, which is one of the reasons why I carry Ferragamos exclusively now.
Christy, I can understand how being forced to learn rules and play a game that you dislike is frustrating. And to have to do it every day, no less. I can't say that I fully understand feeling that way about fashion b/c I get so much pleasure out of it. If there is every anything that I can do to make it more enjoyable or even less frustrating, let me know - it's something I love to do.
Posted by Yozhik (Member # 89) on :
Nobody has an opinion on sushi pants?
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
Mmmmmm, sushi pants.
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
Blech, sushi. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I think celia has some sushi pajamas, though I could be hallucenating.
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