It's just started, of course, but I have to say that coming off of a Firefly marathon I can't believe how wooden and preposterous Enterprise seems. Somehow the whole "Alien Nazis" thing just seems...well...dumb. They've got an hour though; maybe they'll find a way to make it work.
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Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
I wish I were...
Hopefully my roommate taped it. Or will it be on as a rerun anytime soon?
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Probably, but I'm not sure when exactly.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
My DirecTV time finder thing didn't turn up any time other than today, but I know that last season they showed it twice a week, first on Wed. and then on Sun. night. I expect they'll still do something similar. I hope so, because this Friday night time slot isn't particularly convenient.
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
sorry, i'm busy watching the ken jennings show. i mean, jeopardy.
"This term for a long-handled gardening tool can also mean an immoral pleasure seeker"
"What is a Hoe?"
I thought it was safe to eat and watch Jeopardy, but that almost lodged chicken and dumplings in my nose.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Heh--I saw that one too, and nearly choked on my orange segement.
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
I actually new the correct answer, but only because we just watched Mansfield Park a couple weeks ago.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Really? My brother had a lot of fun with that word when I was in jr. high, since I was much more successful with girls than he was, and since it rhymed with my name.
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Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
Why don't they just quit making Star Trek shows altogether? They're ruining my Trekkie nostalgia here. I want to remember it as something that was fun and great while it lasted, but came to an end like all good things... Not some gigantic cash cow that was still being milked long after it was already dead and dry. They should have quit the shows before Voyager. They should have quit the movies after First Contact.
*disgruntled former TNG trekkie*
Posted by Troubadour (Member # 83) on :
I thought Voyager was the best of the lot. TNG was pretty good, DS9 just got incredibly, horribly dull.
Don't know about enterprise, althought Scott Bakula will always win points from me for anything he does just on Quantum Leap nostalgia alone. Heh.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Really? Voyager the best of the lot? Christine and I argue about this now and then. She loved Voyager, and while I'll agree that the show got much, much better as time wore on, I don't feel like it ever held a candle to Deep Space Nine, which is far and away my favorite Trek.
None of them hold a candle to Firefly, of course, but really what TV SciFi could?
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Posted by Bob (not Bob) (Member # 6286) on :
They looked at the Star Wars franchise, and learned the lesson that you can make an awful lot of money by whoring out our nostalga. Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Feh. I'll have to re-watch Firefly to remind myself of just why I didn't like the series.
-Trevor
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Mid-Voyager was the best you'll get from the series. The last season kind of blew, and the first couple were boring as the characters were new and unestablished and whatnot. I think seasons 4, 5, and 6 of Voyager were the best.
That said, TNG was better. And the series finale of DS9 was one of the best Star Trek episodes ever.
Enterprise is getting better. I mean, really. They fixed Hoshi's hair! How can it get bad again? Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
Actually, I'm hopeful. Coto is now a showrunner, and he's vowed to get the show back on track. HE already kind of apologized for the premier, saying that they had to 'write themselves out of' the dumb alien-nazi cliffhanger that the previous crew had left them with, but now they're going to focus on getting it back to be a real Star Trek prequel series.
In the next few episodes, we'll see:
-A Vulcan Civil War, which will get the Vulcans pretty much back to how we knew them in TOS - we'll also get an appearance by T'Pau, the Vulcan who officiated as Spock's 'wedding'.
-Brent Spiner as Doctor Soong, a progenitor of Data's Creator, and a crazy fellow massively involved in the Eugenics Wars (remember those things that caused Khan to happen?)
-Orion Slave Girls
-the beginning of the Forming of the Federation.
-It's also been hinted that if we don't see the Romulan Wars in the show itself, there will be a film (that may or may not have anything to do with the current Enterprise cast) that explores this time period.
Coto is a major Trek fanboy, and has also hired some of the well-known Trek novel writers (like Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens) to write some upcoming episodes.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Ooooo, sounds good!
EDIT: You know, I really disliked Enterprise until I saw the episode 'Similitude'. If anyone here is a doubter, that is the episode to watch.
Sort-of-spoilers:
Aaaand I just realised something I really should have noticed. I knew that Ray Bradbury's short story featured a character called Sim and in that story the humans live only eight days. The name and the premise is either a common theme or a direct inspiration. Ah, well, it's still a good episode.
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Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
That episode was written by the new Showrunner Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Well that would explain it, then. I was actually just trying to find out who wrote it, but I got distracted by my Sim/Sim realisation. . I guess I'll be trying to watch more Enterprise now (except I can't because I don't have a tv and Lost my housemates can handle but I'm not so sure about Enterprise! Heh.)
Yes, Coto definately has the right idea.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote: None of them hold a candle to Firefly, of course, but really what TV SciFi could?
B5
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Oh, and I have a special place in my heart for Blake's Seven .
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Re: Voyager...
From the website Television Without Pity, from the EnterpriseShow FAQ:
Question: What do all the crazy abbreviations mean?
Answer: Okay, get ready.
Television series: TOS = the original series, Star Trek (1966-1969) TNG = The Next Generation (1987-1994) DS9 = Deep Space Nine (1993-1999) VOY = Vapid Onerous Years or Voyager (1995-2001)
heehee!
My husband watches Enterprise, but I just can't get into it. I was a TNG fan, and then a DS9 semi-fan, but dude...after that, it just went downhill. It went a little uphill again with Enterprise, but Voyager just drove me crazy. It just seemed very, very dull to me. Add to that Seven of Nine, a.k.a. "Hooter Borg," and I just couldn't watch.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Hey, I liked Hooter Borg.
Not enough to watch the show, even with the sound off, but still...
-Trevor
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
DS9 is still my favorite Trek show. With all the debates regarding terrorism and military occupation going on, the issues explored by that show are more relevant than ever.
Just watched the first three episodes of Firefly this weekend. Firefly is to Enterprise as warp speed is to impulse propulsion.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Heh. I hated or at least actively disliked the Firefly characters and I only mildly oppose the Enterprise crew.
Go figure.
-Trevor
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
Well, I only saw three episodes, so maybe I will grow to hate the character as the show progresses.
But I am a converted Buffy/Angel fan, so I think I will enjoy the rest of Firefly. Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I just couldn't get past the "Hillbillies in Space" aspect of it.
-Trevor
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
What if the show had more hooters? Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Ya know, the thought had occured to me that I only found the professional escort to be marginally attractive and the rest of the cast does absolutely nothing for me as a reason why I didn't care for the show.
But honestly, I kept coming back to the problem of "Hicks in Space".
The juxtaposition of cowboys in the wild, wild west roping strays in the shadow of a spaceship taking off in the background just didn't work for me.
-Trevor
Posted by Magson (Member # 2300) on :
Enterprise is still on? I stopped watching sometime in the 2nd season. I think I tried to start again at the beginning of the 3rd season becuz they said they were gonna try a new direction or something. I think I saw something about zindee or something like that, but. . it wasn't enough to keep me for more than 2-3 weeks. Is it still Wednesdays at the same time as Smallville? That could also be why I wasn't watching. I could have recorded it but. . . never really felt the need to bother.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Smallville - super-powered teen(s) and teenage angst.
Yeah, sorry - I'll pass on that one.
Come to think of it, there isn't much I actually watch anymore.
-Trevor
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
To answer Noemon's question: NO
But I am anxiously awaiting a possible new Star Trek series spearheaded by J. Michael Straczynski! Now *that* I gotta see.
Posted by Lupus (Member # 6516) on :
I saw the premire. I was bit worried about this season when I saw the nazi aliens and such. The time travel thing has been done poorly in enterprise.
Though the descriptions of what you say are things to come sound interesting.
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