This is driving me insane, I'm sitting here listening to The Planets, Mars section and my brain is constantly associating all sorts of very vague visual memories with it, clearly a movie, popular movie, uses music from this and I can't place it at all. Someone help!
Ahhh!
Hobbes
[ October 12, 2004, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Hobbes ]
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Hobbes, I can't think of any movie that specifically uses Mars (although several use Jupiter). However, LOTS of movies (and I mean TONS) use Mars-like and Holst-like scores.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Yah, I know there's a lot of similar ones, and I think Mars Attacks uses this, but I know that's not the one I'm thinking of.
I seem to associate it strongly with Star Wars but I'm not even vaguely confident about that.
Hobbes
[ October 12, 2004, 04:09 PM: Message edited by: Hobbes ]
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Star Wars leaps to mind as one with a very "Marsesqe" theme. The Imperial March, if I'm remembering correctly, sounds like something from one of Holst's demo tapes.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Werid, I edited in Star Wars before I saw your post Noemon. Hmmm, if it is in Star Wars I'm going to have to figure out where...
Hobbes
[ October 12, 2004, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: Hobbes ]
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Oh, it's also in The Right Stuff.
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
for some reason gladiator comes to mind, though i don't seem to actually recall anything about the movie or music therein.
edit: amazon doesn't seem to have it listed on the soundtrack, though, so i may be smoking crack.
[ October 12, 2004, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: celia60 ]
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
I'm thinking Star Destroyers. An early scene with Star Destroyers. Don't quote me on that, but that's what leaps to mind when I "play" Mars in my head.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Yah, it is in the Right Stuff, but that's not what I'm thinking of either (not that you would know this, but ... well it wasn't).
I haven't seen Gladiator, I guess it might have been in that but obviously it's not what I'm thinking of either.
I suppose this is kind of like Gensis, interpret my dream only I forgot my dream. Well I'm the one whose going to die if you fail so help!
Hobbes Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Gladiator is one that has Holst-like scoring and themes. The music in Gladiator is actually by the same pairing that did the music for The Pirates of the Caribbean, Klaus Badelt and Hans Zimmer.
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
This is probably not helpful, but a search on IMDB:
"Quatermass Experiment, The" (1953)
- "The Planets: Mars, Bringer of War"
Biografía de la locomotora (1948)
"The planets", by Gustav Theodore Holst
Existió otra humanidad (1977)
- "The Planets"
Mona Lisa Smile (2003)
- "For the Splendor of Creation" adapted from "The Planets"
Paradise Road (1997)
- "Jupiter" from "The Planets"
Yards, The (2000)
- "'Saturn' from 'The Planets'"
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
I think you might possibly just be thinking of movie scores that have been influenced by The Planets. John Williams, in Star Wars and several others of his scores, was obviously stronly influenced by it. In fact, every time I listen to Mars, I catch myself thinking, "This guy ripped Williams off!"
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
That's quite possible. Hmmm ... hmmm ... this is driving me nuts. Stupid good music.
Hobbes Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
It's probably in that movie where someone said "it doesn't do anything, that's the beauty of it!"
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
That's funny, UofU Whenever I listen to Williams (whom I love, don't get me wrong), I think..."Wagner...Holst...Wagner...Strauss...Holst...Oh, that was Stravinsky! Nifty!...Wagner...Holst..."
I love him. His styles are all borrowed out the yin-yang, but I still love him.
edited to add...vwiggin! NOOOOOOOOOOO!
[ October 12, 2004, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Megan ]
Posted by Yozhik (Member # 89) on :
[ October 12, 2004, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: Yozhik ]
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Possible, but it's been a really long time since I've seen TLSF.
I'm begining to lean towards the Star Wars rip-off, sepcifically, "The Imperial March" sounds like that might be it. I'm not convinced though.
Hobbes Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Guaranteed "Mars" isn't in Star Wars. Ever. Anywhere. At all.
I found much of the same IMDb stuff, but will add three listings: New Guy (2003), Company (2002), and Mr. 3000, surprisingly enough... Apparently it's also in Full Metal Ninja (1988). Somehow, I've managed to miss that movie.
Another site tells me that it was the theme to the TV series "Quartermass," and in the movie How to Get Ahead in Advertising.
Finally, from what I've found, it was also featured in one of the X2: X-Men United trailers.
I know I've heard it other places, though... I'll keep thinking about it.
Edit to show that I really do know how to count!
[ October 12, 2004, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: Carrie ]
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
I think people were trying to say that Williams's work for Star Wars was heavily influenced by Mars (and Holst in general).
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Well I think it's a rip-off after listening to both, but I like John Williams so I don't much care how it's phrased.
Hobbes Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Hobbes, "heavily influenced by" is the musicologically nicey-nice way of saying "ripped off." There's a whole sub-discipline in theory/musicology about borrowing and influence of styles, though.
Posted by fil (Member # 5079) on :
Yup, tons of musicians have...er...borrowed heavily from the Planets. Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan shows this, Star Wars shows this, Aliens has some, Gladiator has some, etc. Not just from the Mars movement, but from the whole work (which is so nice to see every year at outdoor pavilian...ahhhh). Holst was the bomb, literrally. They say with "Mars Bringer of War" he brought WW1 home to people who never experienced it first hand (and he hadn't, either). But he communicated the bombast, the noise, the dread and even some say the german machine guns with his soundscape. Great stuff.
Oh, and it was used in an early X-Men 2 trailer as well.
fil
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
anyone else dig ELP's take on this circa 1985?
Posted by thrak (Member # 5499) on :
Actually I think that Brian May's soundtrack to Mad Max and Road Warrior is very similar to Mars. Maybe that is what you are thinking of.
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