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Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
Ok.

The Cards choked.

And as a St. Louis person, I feel let down.

Still, while the victory is great for the people of Boston, I have to wonder if defeat would have been better.

Their identity for so long have been that of the underdog, cursed and long faithful. They were the myth and the magic of baseball. Theres was a divine fate to loose, and now that divinity is gone.

What has become of Susanne Lucci after she got her Emmy?

What became of the Jamaican Bobsled team?

What will become of the Boston Red Sox?

They are all still there, all still working hard and meeting failures and successes. Yet the magic is gone, the story is over.

What happens when you don't win next year (or the year after)? You can't blame the curse. You become just like the rest of us, average, common fans.

Celebrate with grand passion today my Boston friends, but realize that you no longer are as special as you were a month ago, or a year ago, or a Decade ago.

The curse is gone, and that might not be as great a thing as you are thinking.

ps. Great games!
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
They will be the next Yankees.

I've decided to get a head start and start hating them now.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
[Big Grin]

How true.

Maybe they could get Derek Jeter to pronounce a new curse.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Here's a good summation of I think most of our feelings over here (or at least my feelings), in a game diary format. This same writer had a whole article on this, but I think you need to pay to read his archives.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/041028

-Bok

EDIT: Plus, we always have Chicago to kick around (BOTH teams haven't won the world series for even longer than the Red Sox!)

[ October 28, 2004, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: Bokonon ]
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
They are just another franchise now. *sigh*
 
Posted by Lefty the One-armed Man (Member # 6161) on :
 
No! It can't be over!

Wait, I know! They can ship Curt Shilling off to the Yankees. Start a new curse. Just you look out for the 2090 Red Sox!
 
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
Dan:

I had the same evil thought as well. I mean, it's not like they're some plucky, small market team that you are surpised every time they have a successful year. They have one of the highest payrolls in the league.

-- However --

They are a perfect foil for the Yankees (and vice versa). So that alone gives them lasting relevance. I'm a West Coast guy, but even I like to see the Sox and the Yankees play each other.

I'd prefer a Giants - Dodgers battle (assuming the Giants win, of course), but if that doesn't happen, Yankees-Red Sox is pretty entertaining.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
I'm just glad the series was over in 4 games. It's not like I don't have homework to do. Now at least I can concentrate on it. [Smile]
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
The Patriots.

The Celtics.

Boston fans will be fine with victory, even Sox fans.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Well, there is always the Bruins.... [Evil]

Go RED WINGS!

[ October 28, 2004, 07:34 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
 
Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
 
quote:
EDIT: Plus, we always have Chicago to kick around (BOTH teams haven't won the world series for even longer than the Red Sox!)
Therefore I predict the Cubs will win next year.
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
We (true Cubs fans) were devastated when they did so well two years ago and then didn't make it to the series.

NEXT YEAR WILL BE OUR YEAR!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
Cubs vs. White Sox in the 2005 World Series... Game 7, 18 innings, tied 0-0. <g>
 
Posted by Stan the man (Member # 6249) on :
 
quote:
Go RED WINGS!

I will drink to that. Bottoms up!
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
Goody, you and I will get tickets and sit right next to each other.

I would have a hard time at that game. I've always rooted for both teams and I would be happy at something that would bring Chicago some pride (since they haven't had anything to really be proud of since the Bulls)...but I would end up rooting for the Cubs. I'm a Cubbies fan for sure.
 
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
 
There won't be any Red Wings or Bruins. Lockout! Which is really disappointing because this was the year the Panthers were going to win. Luongo, Bouwmeister (or however you spell his name), Horton, Jokinen, and others were ready to step up and win some games.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Stan, I lived in Utica MI for most of my life, until 1988. I am a big Red Wings fan, and always have been since I discovered hockey as a teen...about 1984.

Joe Louis Arena is so cool, a great place to watch a game!

Go Red Wings!

Kwea
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
I had a friend who had tickets to Game Five... Yup, a Cardinals fan.

AJ
 
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
 
I liked this story:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/chitribt s/20041029/ts_chicagotrib/bostondrinksdeeplyfromcupofvictory&e=5

quote:
Everyone who was here will remember Boston on what forever may be dubbed "the day after." Overnight, the billboards that had read "Keep the Faith" had been changed to "Thank you." The line for commemorative baseball caps at the souvenir shop outside Fenway was two hours long. Signs in windows that had said "We believe" were gone, replaced by ones that exalted, "The curse is broken." And a statement that no one ever thought would be uttered within Beantown's borders was being said with some frequency: "Maybe we can finally forgive the Yankees."
I expect lots of tearful hugs at Bob and dkw's wedding. "Yes, plaid," the Sox fans will say to me, "all is forgiven." [Razz]

[ October 29, 2004, 07:47 PM: Message edited by: plaid ]
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
Plaid:

Not.

Ha ha.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Never.
 
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
 
Yeesh. Y'all finally win a World Series, and this is your attitude? Alas, all those years without winning have turned your hearts bitter. Sad, really... [Razz]
 


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