[ November 09, 2004, 07:12 AM: Message edited by: Chris Bridges ]
Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
Interesting. Androgenous, elegant, colorful, anticipatory -- the figure waits with arms spread, ready.
A great start.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Ooh, bigwords...
I am so excited about this! I was never particularly fond of the story, or of the first movie, but I adore Johnny Depp, so I'm excited anyway.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
How can you not be fond of the story? It's lovely. It'a lovely book.
The movie was blasphemy, pure and simple. Charlie's supposed to be good and they gave him a vice! It's a fairy story and they introduced a whole other plot!
If you've only ever seen the movie, read the book and then read the sequel (Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator). They are waaaaay better than the movie.
Hmph.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
yes yes yes! i cannot wait to see it because the Lovely JOHNNY DEPP is in it and I like him for some reason.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I've never been a fan of Depp at all, but I loved the book as a kid, so I'm interested in seeing what they do with it.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Is it me, or does Depp look quite the dandy in that poster?
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Teshi, I could not agree more.
I read the books years before seeing the movie, and never could get what everyone was raving about. The books were awesome, and the movie was . . . meh.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
I like both the book and the movie, a lot, for entirely different reasons.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
the movie is cool because Gene Wilder is cool...
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
My thoughts exactly. But don't forget crazy. cool and crazy. Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Don't get me wrong, I intend to see this movie I just think that it's a fabulous book, too.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
I loved "Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator." But I really didn't like "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" as much... I don't know, maybe I'm just weird.
Or maybe it's that I'm not crazy about chocolate.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
quote:Or maybe it's that I'm not crazy about chocolate.
But that makes you crazy. You're crazy any way you look at it, really.
I loved the movie and both the books (Chocolate Factory more than Glass Elevator). I liked a lot of other Roald Dahl books better, though, so I always felt the movie was more special. Or something.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Ah, see. Chocolate Factory was my favorite Dahl book, and it holds an extremely special place in my heart, so it's hard for any movie to please me.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
You know, speaking of that, I wonder why nobody has made a live action film of my favorite book, The BFG. Or have they, and I'm just ignorant? I searched IMDB, but the only thing they appeared to have is a made-for-TV animated movie from the '80s.
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
I always thought of Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator as Dahl's experiment with mind-altering drugs.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was one of my favourite books of all time though. I am looking forward to this movie very much.
As long as there's no singing. Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
I LOVE the BFG, but I can imagine what they'd do to it in a movie.
If for some reason I become a movie director, that is the movie I'd want to make.
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
... Tim Burton!? *Checks Music* DANNY ELFMAN! *Almost dies*
Wait a minute... Tim Burton = unique darker side... Oompa Loompas... I'm already terrified of them... what will he do to make it worse!?
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
Something about that poster reminds me of Edward Scissorhands.
I loved the book but have always found the movie deeply disappointing. I'm curious to see if this version is more faithful to Dahl's story.
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
*Looks again*
Well, would you looky at that, he does look a lot like Edward again...
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
He looks scary and dying...
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
I was going to go with "rather pasty," but perhaps "scary and dying" sums it up better...
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
he does not look scary to me I like his hat
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
I dunno - Benny and June redux?
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Why does he get such cool hats and i don't? I am so jealous of him. *wants a fedora very badly*
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
*wears a fedora very badly*
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
*covets*
Posted by Anti-Chris (Member # 4452) on :
God, I love Oompa Loompa's. Tim Burtons take on Oompa Loompa's... RAZOR SHARP TEETH! A killing streak a mile long! Blood soaked gloves!!! MUAHAHAHAHAH!
Or not.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote: I've never been a fan of Depp at all...
Probably because you are neither a woman nor gay.
It's really not fair for anyone to become exponentially sexy every year they get older. By 50 the man will be terminal to the female hormone.
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
Actually... Perhaps you would enjoy my own writing to the Oompa Loompa song...
Now, for the full affect you must picture this...
You are sleeping quietly to the be jostled, you look up to see someone standing over your bed, 'twas a small man, he turns to face you, an evil glare in his eyes, brandishing a knife, he begins to sing, etching closer to you constantly... (Slow the tempo a bit for this)
Oompa Loompa Doopedy doo I've got a riddle just for you! Oompa Loompa doopedy doo if you are wise you'll listen to me. What is red and dripping with... blood. What bumps in the night and makes you scream out with... dread. What keeps you up from dawn until dusk. We'll let you know that it... is... us! Do do do do do do do
(I know about dawn until dusk... ^_^ It's not right, but most I've met don't catch it)
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
*coughy laugh* Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
quote:Probably because you are neither a woman nor gay.
Nor...um...a person who uses the handle "Da_Goat" on internet forums....
[ November 10, 2004, 03:35 AM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
quote: As long as there's no singing.
But the singing is the best PART!
My favorite Dahl book was always "Danny, Champion of the World" which has an awesome movie, btw, with Jeremy Irons. Though the book is still better, of course. But I also love the BFG, and of COURSE, Matilda!
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
ah! Matilda was such a great movie! Probaly one of the best movie to book transitions I've seen.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Definitely. It's right up there with "The Princess Bride." Posted by Fyfe (Member # 937) on :
*owns a fedora that belonged to her grandmother*
I thought Gene Wilder was too--I don't know. There was something very innocent about Willy Wonka in the book, and Gene Wilder was way too knowing and creepy. I thought. We shall see whether this is better.
Jen
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
I love them all. All his books. I grew up on them.
Dahl and the Famous Five Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
OMG! The Famous Five were all I would read for a stretch of about six or so years!! I discovered Enid Blyton when I was seven, and afterwards that was it... I wouldn't read anyone else! Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
[ December 10, 2004, 02:15 AM: Message edited by: Belle ]
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
Holy crud. That looks even wierder than the original movie.
[ December 10, 2004, 02:48 AM: Message edited by: Miro ]
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Cool But that music is FREAKY!
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
The MUSIC? What about Johnny's terrible fake dental wear? Sheesh, he looked very creepy!
Creepy in a "Dang he's still sexy with a bobbed haircut and terribly white fake teeth" kind of way. Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
That smile is just weird.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
He looks so cute when he's trying to look demented.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I didn't think it was possible to be weirder than the first movie.
Clearly, I was wrong.
Posted by IdemosthenesI (Member # 862) on :
I don't like that trailer. Don't get me wrong, the movie looks... very interesting.... hmm... but the trailer is just not cut together very well. It's like they said "This movie is pretty imaginative and interesting, but that's not what we want to show. See if you can make it wacky!"
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
He's wearing a pageboy.
What an interesting movie...
I love Johnny Depp, but he is NOT sexy in this. He looks like Adrian from Moulin Rouge - fabulous and Wonkian, but not sexy.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
Actually it seemed pretty obvious to me. He's channeling Tom Petty from the "Don't Come Around Here No More" video...
Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
quote:He's channeling Tom Petty from the "Don't Come Around Here No More" video...
*jaw drops
From my mind to your lips, Chris Bridges.
quote:I thought Gene Wilder was too--I don't know. There was something very innocent about Willy Wonka in the book, and Gene Wilder was way too knowing and creepy. I thought.
Me too, Fyfe. Exactly.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
You don't think that smile on Depp's face is creepy? *shudder*
Posted by Intelligence3 (Member # 6944) on :
Positively androgynous.
I dunno, maybe this will be okay.
Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
Oh Dag, I find Depp in this creepy, too. That's why I chopped off the end of the quote (Jen posted before the trailer).
Oh, yeah, fingers up the spine creepy. *shudder
But I was always troubled by what was off about CCF for me, and she nailed it.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
"Don't come around here no more!" Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
I just realized, this Wonka looks a lot like Michael Jackson!
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
[ December 10, 2004, 06:34 PM: Message edited by: newfoundlogic ]
Posted by dabbler (Member # 6443) on :
I agree that he bears an unpleasant resemblance to Michael Jackson.
Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
Please tell me you didn't miss that play on names nfl...
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
quote: I love Johnny Depp, but he is NOT sexy in this. He looks like Adrian from Moulin Rouge - fabulous and Wonkian, but not sexy.
Which one's Adrian, again? You don't mean Ewan, do you (he's Christian, right?), because Ewan is most definitely sexy in that film and all his others as well!
Posted by Bella Bee (Member # 7027) on :
This is completely off topic, but does anyone else remember the bit in the book where Charlie walks past the factory everyday and smells the chocolate in the air?
I always wanted to live near a chocolate factory so that I could breath chocolate everyday like that. Now, through a weird and completely accidental coincidence I actually do live just down the road from one, and it's totally not true. Most of the time the air smells of damp burnt toast.
Strange but true.
On topic - I love Johnny Depp so much, but I agree that he is looking rather disturbing in this. You gotta admit, the guy’s not afraid to look weird.
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
I loved the first movie. I'll keep an open mind about the new one, since I like Johnny Depp... but I'm not much of a Tim Burton fan, his attempts to meld weird creative stuff with commercial movies just never seem to work for me.
Posted by SuluChan SueYou (Member # 7118) on :
The thought of Johnny Depp, Tim Burton, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory makes me want to cry inside.
Don't get me wrong, I'll be one of the first to see it, but I'm scared of the outcome.
Posted by Lisha-princess (Member # 6966) on :
Well, I grew up watching the movie, long before ever reading the books. Frankly, I was terrified of the Oompa Loompas and all the creepy children but basically the rest of it I enjoyed. Because I saw the movie so many times first, the book never made a huge impression on me. I don't remember much of anything from it, to tell the truth. The second one though...I was afraid of that one too; it disturbed me.
When I saw the poster in a theater over Thanksgiving, I immediately had worries, and now, having seen the trailer, I am seriously considering not seeing it until someone tells me that it's okay and the Oompa Loompas aren't too scary.
Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
What's interesting is this preview is clearly intentionally made to look very weird. If you took out the audio and rearranged the same clips to Harry Potter music, you'd probably have a fairly conventional looking fantasy-movie trailor. (That's what Lemony Snicket does!) I'm wondering why they've chosen to market it as such a weird movie, because usually hollywood execs don't want to do that - it potentially decreases the audience size.
As for the similarity to Michael Jackson, that doesn't surprise me. Burton LOVES to focus on misunderstood outcasts from society. Willy Wonka is just the type - a disillusioned innocent celebrity who has locked himself away in a fantasy world of his creation, only to open the doors and let in a group of children. Who does that sound like to you?
I think it will work... the only problem is that it will have expectations it probably can't fill. It's always a dangerous proposition to remake a movie that was already made brilliantly and still works today. That very rarely works.
Posted by Godric (Member # 4587) on :
Yozhik:
quote:It smells like chocolate near the Hershey factory in PA.
I'm going there tonight! Christmas Candy Lane! Woo-hoo!
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