[ November 14, 2004, 07:30 PM: Message edited by: Ben ]
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
A rapper dies of something other than a shooting? This has got to be a first...
Posted by beatnix19 (Member # 5836) on :
ouch! Stereotypical much?
[ November 14, 2004, 07:47 PM: Message edited by: beatnix19 ]
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
Not really. I just noticed that rappers seem to be involved with gun incidents much more than, say, classical artists. They also tend to die as a direct result of that pretty often.
Posted by beatnix19 (Member # 5836) on :
OK, first I just feel like arguing and really don't take much offense to your post since I am only a moderate fan of rap to begin with but...
The problem with your argument is that rap as an art form has only been around for a very short time. People like Grand Master Flash and groups like The Sugar Hill Gang and Run DMC Came on the scene, in what, the very late 70's or early 80's. These are a couple of the pioneers of the genre. So to say that most rapper deaths seems to be gun related is not much of an argument because none of the early rappers are even in what we would consider advanced ages to be able to die of any normal circumstances. Therefore, the only deaths we would hear about would be the tragic, untimely deaths such as Notorious BIG, Tupac or Jam Master J. Give it time. I predict many of the famous rappers of our time will live to a nice ripe age and die of heart attacks, or cancer or all the other great things that take us as we age.
On the other side of your argument, Clasical Musicians have been around hundreds of years. I'd be willing to bet that many more classically trained musicians have been killed in tragic and violent deaths than have rappers. Lets face it, human nature has not changed that drastically in the last few hundred years. People can die at the end of a barrel or the point of a swrod all the same regardless of the era they live in or the music they play.
Ok I feel better now. Thanks.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
I agree with beatnix. It's also not that more rappers die of violence; it's that when they do, it's more publicized because it fits into the stereotype of a rapper better than, say, heart failure. The same could be said about rock stars and drug overdoses.
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
how about rappers ODing and rock stars being shot?
Posted by NdRa (Member # 2295) on :
Bummer. Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
The distinction that I'm making here is that these are not deaths that occur during the normal course of life; they are not commonplace hazards. Some willful decision was made that is pretty well documented to conceivably result in death, and death ensued. Not an accident.
Feyd Baron, DoC
Posted by Danzig avoiding landmarks (Member # 6792) on :
Why would an unintentional drug overdose be a suicide? Dale Earnhardt is not generally considered a suicide, even though racing has the risk of crashing. It is an accident because OD was not the intent. In my world, you have to be trying for it to be suicide.
Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
Alright Danzig, I'll grant you that. But is dying from ODing really the same as walking down the street and be killed by some falling object?
How would you define accident in these cases?
Feyd Baron, DoC
Posted by AvidReader (Member # 6007) on :
I would say personal negligence. It implies that the person should have known better but was not looking for the result they got.
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