The title. What are each and everyone's real expectations of Hatrack, ultimately? What do you want of each individual, and what from the community as a whole entity?
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
I want to marry a Hatracker.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
It's all just a big sociological experiment to me. Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Me too.
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
I expect to be entertained, kept up-to-date on important news/scientific breakthroughs and to be worshiped.
That's not too much to ask, is it?
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Kayla
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Much to ask? That depends what ambitions you have for your future.
Remember, the more ambitious, the more disappointed you'll be when you fail.
Jonny
[ December 16, 2004, 05:24 PM: Message edited by: Jonathan Howard ]
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
A safe haven for discussion of almost everything, where I can be assured of intelligent response from people who agree with me, people who disagree with me but will explain why without scorn, and everyone in between.
A place to find out about new stuff that interests me.
A chance to get sneak previews at new OSC stuff Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
I personally expect it to save the world, by bringing together people of goodwill and intelligence worldwide, and forming bonds of friendship and caring around the globe.
This network formed of the very people who (if anyone can) will be able to provide leadership, and intelligent solutions to problems, and who take personal responsibility for the planet and all its inhabitants, has the potential to fundamentally change the history of the solar system toward a more benevolent and sensible form of human stewardship of all earth life.
Aim high, is what I say. No sense in thinking small. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Ego boosting.
And the Funny.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
To understand and to be understood.
Posted by Bean Counter (Member # 6001) on :
To rise above the dull repetitive filth of the common chat room toward some sort of Socratic Ideal.
BC
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
Puns.
Lots and lots of puns.
Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
generally good, sensible, intelligent people to interact with
a listening ear to whine to and a place to be a listening ear
stories of all kinds news/political/personal
geek culture
occasionally ego stroking
occasionally humour
*edit* Or what beverly said.
[ December 16, 2004, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: Christy ]
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
So, if we, the intelligent, try to save the world - how come it works? There are no spammers around with new offers to enlarge your !@#$%^&, do !@#$%^&, or take !@#$%^&.
Ths is truly remarkable! About 99.8 of the posts are written in real, proper English [with capitals and punctuation, amazingly correct in most cases), and more than 0.3% words that your average man doesn't know ("Interrogate... please split it up for me")]. The actual level of the discussion is 'slightly' more profound than other forums.
How come?! Is it because to be part of this forum you needed to have read OSC's books, or fake it well? Well, you do need to have over 115 (at least) IQ to understand OSC truly.
True, or false?
Jonny
Posted by RackhamsRazor (Member # 5254) on :
Mostly I just like to hear what people have to say. I like seeing debates and seeing both sides of issues as well as just general fun information. Also, I would like to become a stonger writer and be able to back up more of what I say, but I'm still working up the courage to write something of importance for fear of getting bashed into the ground...I'm getting there I think... Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:Ths is truly remarkable! About 99.8 of the posts are written in real, proper English [with capitals and punctuation, amazingly correct in most cases), and more than 0.3% words that your average man doesn't know ("Interrogate... please split it up for me")]. The actual level of the discussion is 'slightly' more profound than other forums.
Long-time posters, cohesive community, merciless mocking for those who violate community conventions, and love and acceptance for all who maintain a minimum standard of civilization.
Or, fans of Orson Scott Card are just better people.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
It's because we're awesome, Jon. Don't explain it if it's not broken. Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: Love and acceptance for all who maintain a minimum standard of civilization.
There are only 3 like that in my class, I'm one of them. "Full Stops? Periods? Huh?"
I sit next to one, who writes (doesn't matter what. Poems, songs, scripts, books, whatever), behind me is another, I am the third. "Capitals? Wha...?"
It is saddening, but who said humans are civilised?
Jonny
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: Don't explain it if it's not broken.
No energy for suttle behaviour, too tired. Please define 'it'.
Jonny
Posted by Bean Counter (Member # 6001) on :
Readers of Sci-fi and Fantasy in general, with that as a filter you get higher intellegence, it is like the Chess Club or D&D club, lots of nerds. (and closet nerd jock hicks like me) Start there and then add the fact that discussing important issues is mankinds oldest and most natural form of entertainment (besides sex) and you get people who are willing to stick around and listen. Oh and lots of soft targets!
BC
Posted by Bean Counter (Member # 6001) on :
quote: It is saddening, but who said humans are civilised?
well most do live in cities, wait is that true? I know it is in the USA and Europe but is it true world wide? I wonder... well looks like 48% Urban, sorry I guess most of us are not civilized.
BC
[ December 16, 2004, 05:52 PM: Message edited by: Bean Counter ]
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
You're saying, essentially, that we are acting like Aristotle and Ptolemais, except we're several hundred active philosophers, and several thousand partly passive ones?
Jonny
P.S. I should start my philosophical quotes, I'm sick of Murphy!
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote:Well, you do need to have over 115 (at least) IQ to understand OSC truly.
I'm starting to see IQ scores as the equivalent of beauty pagent points for brains. Narrow, boxed-in, inaccurate and ultimately meaningless.
I just read a interview with Stephen Hawking in The New York Times. The interviewer asked him what his IQ is, and he said, "I have no clue. People who brag about their IQs are losers." The idea of that line coming out of electronic voice synthesizer slayed me.
(Sorry kid, I didn't mean to pick on your post. It just made me think of it.)
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I expect it to taste like chocolate. Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
LOL @ Ralphie.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote:
quote: It is saddening, but who said humans are civilised?
Well most do live in cities, wait is that true? I know it is in the USA and Europe but is it true world wide? I wonder...
Does that really mean much? Prejudices exist, and I hear them daily. "Death to the Arabs! Kill them all like rats.", more like "deth twoo the arabs lill them aul".
When you think of it, communal living doesn't necessarily make us smarter, it can have the opposite effect. I guess that since no one here loathes me, (are you people hiding secrets behind your back?) I'm pretty much civilised. Is that the ultimate test?
quote: The problem with Hatrack is that it's full of OSC little fans
Much less on this side, you 'SD.Net'er! I'm a Hatracker! And proud of it!
Jonny
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I'm here for the refreshments.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Not to see DON'T PANIC! and hear elevator music instead of being able to read the forum.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: I'm starting to see IQ scores as the equivalent of beauty pagent points for brains.
'I queue'? (I know what it really is!) I think that it still measures our level of logical capabilities and their expressions.
I have a useless suggestion! Why don't we all make up our own "Hatrack IQ": Every smart comment will raise it, and every stupid post, or lost logical case, if it wasn't a well-represented one will decrease your points.
Damn, I'm now at -10, due to this post!
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: hear elevator music instead of being able to read the forum.
Does that include Enya's "Caribbean Blue"?
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I wandered in to the forums quite a while after I had discovered Hatrack.com. I joined so I could respond to Twinky's thread about Radiohead.
I'm not sure why I've stayed so long. I usually feel somewhat out of place here, and my attempts to participate in discussions often leave me feeling frustrated and disconnected. I don't know how to be a community builder.
But there's always something to read and think about here, and it's a good foil for all the marketing writing I have to do all day.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
I'm determined to never check my actual IQ. Every fun test I take makes me look dumb.I don't want the real ones to confirm that. I'd much rather keep living thinking I'm so very smart. Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: I usually feel somewhat out of place here, and my attempts to participate in discussions often leave me feeling frustrated and disconnected.
You built me. That makes you the community. (((Advice For Robots)))
[ December 16, 2004, 06:00 PM: Message edited by: Jonathan Howard ]
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
I really think that the Cards should provide some sort of effective valium-type thing for all of us. We could all have a little case that we carry around with us that reads "open in case of Hatrack outage."
As mack notes, the elevator music and "Don't Panic!" just don't cut it.
[and shouldn't "Don't Panic" signs not come attached to exclamation points?]
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: and shouldn't "Don't Panic" signs not come attached to exclamation points?
In capitals + exclamation marks. Need I mention that was irony? (Oh, wait... You were ironic... Stupid Howard! Stupid Howard! *Bangs head on wall, feels like Dobby and wonders why, in OSC's name, he used Harry Potter for this*, *Wonders why he used OSC's name*, *Wonders why he wastes your time reading this*.)
Jonny
[ December 16, 2004, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: Jonathan Howard ]
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote: I'm here for the refreshments.
I'm here so that Annie will make me refreshments.
Get to steppin', woman!
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
No, I don’t build them. That happens at the other end of the factory. I just sit in my little office and give them advice when their positrons go sour. Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
You built me, EMOTIONALLY. I'm not a robot. (wait a second...!)
Jonny
[ December 16, 2004, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: Jonathan Howard ]
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I did?
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Yes. When I joined, you were one of the first to reply to me. You gave me the true feeling of a community here. Thank you.
I don't even remember what it specifically was...
Jonny
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
I got hooked on the puns but, I stayed because the community is compassionate, informed and varied. It really boils down to the sense of community. That is what I want and why I stay.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Wow! Such delicate truth! I share that feeling.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Well then, there's my legacy. The pleasure is mine, Jonathan.
[ December 16, 2004, 06:24 PM: Message edited by: advice for robots ]
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
It is my pleasure. Perhaps your honour!
Posted by Bean Counter (Member # 6001) on :
Technically Civilized means 'Living in Cities'.
BC
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Technically, cities are also tiny tribal villages.
Posted by Bean Counter (Member # 6001) on :
Well no... no they are not, cities are cities, small tribal villages are... small tribal villages.
BC
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Don't try and prove me your bum is the intelligent part of you! [No offence, but did I logically phrase that to make you a SmartArse(TM)?]
Cities are communal settlements. Whether tribal villags or megalopol... (plural of megalopolis?) ...es? (crisis => criises, so...?) Jonny
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
quote: Ths is truly remarkable! About 99.8 of the posts are written in real, proper English [with capitals and punctuation, amazingly correct in most cases), and more than 0.3% words that your average man doesn't know ("Interrogate... please split it up for me")]. The actual level of the discussion is 'slightly' more profound than other forums.
It's a complex system of rewards and punishments that keeps this place what it is. Trolls and rabble-rousers may have fun here for a little while, but they tend to either get bored with the lack of satisfying response, banned, or shape up and become long-term, valued members of the society.
The community feel is what attracted me to Hatrack also.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
How serious could those punishments be?
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Jonathan, is English your second language?
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Well... that all depends on what you think is most serious. Which would you prefer: being banned from Hatrack, or being kept lovingly as Hatrack's village idiot? See, it is all a matter of perspective.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
I'm bilingual. I've natively an English speaker, but at the speed I write I have many typos.
Being bilingual causes me to translate phrases occasionally, and vary the correct syntax. I'm the son of an English teacher, so I occasionally write 'rimes' and confuse pluralising of nouns. I might write down 'vira' instead of viruses (I'm studying Latin), and Greek plurals I never study.
That's the trouble of etimological studies and my unusual character combined. Any further inquiries?
Jonny
Posted by Bean Counter (Member # 6001) on :
Well there is a big difference between digging a well and building an aqueduct. I do not know the generally accepted number, but so long as a significant fraction of your community engages in some form of agriculture, you are not a city. The art of living in cities is the breaking up of the workforce into specific job tasks. Many of which do not exist without the city itself, such as sewer repair, fire man, and PEST councilor.
Civilization is the Art of Living in Cities, so it seems pretty clear that we are civilized, so were the Romans and the Babylonians. Civilization may allow for a whole range of behavioral norms as long as somebody takes out the trash.
BC
[ December 16, 2004, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: Bean Counter ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:Civilization is the Art of Living in Cities
You keep repeating this as if it were true.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
OK, it's 1:52 PM and I have no energy to argue. This essentially means I give up. Due to tchnology we are more urbanised...
What was the argument about... Oh, right! Whether we are CULTURED or not... *Change of terminology.*
Jonny
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
It's mostly in caps, Kat. It has to be true.
Posted by Bean Counter (Member # 6001) on :
Yes I do!
BC
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
[edit: this is directed at Jonathan.]
Not really. You just use some odd phrasing that made me wonder. If English were your second language, I would have been very impressed. I like to know odd things about people, it seems.
You seem to be mad at me, and I'm sorry about that. Hatrack is supposed to be fun, and I think you might be taking some of my wise ass quips a bit too seriously. Yes, Bok is hot, but it's not actually going to change how I interact with him. The cooties thing is just me being me. You'll get used to me.
For your spelling errors, which it seems to me, increase exponentially the more often you post to a single thread, can be fixed quite easily with a quick download from www.iespell.com However, it's not that big of a deal and even with it, you'll sometimes forget to use and make a mistake anyway and that will be the one time someone will quote you and it will live for eternity. As to the unique phrasing, I thought it was cute. It just made me wonder what you native language was, so I clicked on your profile and noticed you were in Israel which made me wonder if English was a second language. Sorry if I've offended you.
[ December 16, 2004, 06:55 PM: Message edited by: Kayla ]
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Ralphie... You are a classic.
hy do I keep on judging people? *Bad Jonny! Bad Jonny!*
I have a Déja vu!
Jonny
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
quote:Mostly I just like to hear what people have to say. I like seeing debates and seeing both sides of issues as well as just general fun information.
Word. While I don't feel like I can participate in the hot discussions much, they always help me figure out how I really feel about the subject in question. It's mind-bending here at hatrack.
quote: I got hooked on the puns but, I stayed because the community is compassionate, informed and varied. It really boils down to the sense of community. That is what I want and why I stay.
Everything in that statement is true for me except the part about the puns. I love the puns, but I am a crappy pun-thinker-upper.
Oh, and Begging the Question. I'm here to keep that thread from dying.
*goes to revive the thread*
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: You seem to be mad at me, and I'm sorry about that.
Nobody's mad. Really. I'm just a very bad typist... Bilinguality does make me weird in my writings. Hatrack is fun, yet misunderstandings occur...
I can talk in better Shakespeare syntax!
Jeez, I need tea...
Jonny
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
And if I remember correctly, Jonathan is young. I always give allowance for young-ness where grammar, spelling, etc. are concerned.
I, on the other hand, have no excuse. Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: I always give allowance for young-ness where grammar, spelling, etc. are concerned.
Bah! I feel incompetent for this forum.
Jonny
P.S. Am I the youngest regular poster? (14.5 y.o.)
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Friends and debate!
Long live Hatrack!
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Jonathan, no, you are not the youngest poster. And I really never questioned your age, though I assumed you were a teenager, but it was just a couple of odd phrases that made me wonder. You aren't incompetent, but perhaps a bit eager.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Eager for what, integration into Hatrack?
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Jon, I am old enough to be your mom. That is, if I were your current age when I conceived. Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I just realized you are my son's age! Granted he's a "special" child and all but I just can't imagine him ever being able to, or wanting to, post at Hatrack. I'm so old.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Nobody else shares my interests and my introversion so perfectly.
EDIT: That's not an expectation. I expect to converse with people who share my interests and introversion perfectly .
Okay, perhaps not perfectly...
[ December 16, 2004, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: Teshi ]
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
I don't know. My other friends who are on other forums make fun of me, because to them my forum is an old people and mormon forum. (Most of them post on Something Awful and Gaia) I don't feel any better or worse than them for posting on a forum like this while they post on theirs. It's just that with a forum that has a small(er) population like this, I feel like I can get a community around me and a group of support people who can give me an objective opinion.
Honestly, this was the first forum I've joined that I've continued to post on for a prolonged period of time. I don't even remember whether or not I've been in any forums before this. Weird.
I guess I just expect Hatrack to be there. It's kind of my home on the net.
Wow, boy, you're just a little older than my little sister. Jeez you're a smart young man.
[ December 16, 2004, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: Ryuko ]
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
My expectation is that when I say something, or ask a question, no one tells me "That's wierd" or "You think too much".
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
That's weird.
[ December 16, 2004, 08:17 PM: Message edited by: Ryuko ]
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
((((Amka))))
Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :
Hmm . . . I want to marry Bokonon.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
A place where people are caring most of the time, and honest and open all of the time (ok, maybe almost all of the time?).
The other fora that I frequent (with the exception of the various Hatrack satellites) all have a general tendency to be heavily moderated. This means people tend to walk on eggshells -- or risk seeing posts disappear, or threads get locked.
While the bile and bad feelings that come from some of our hot-button threads are unpleasant, we can HAVE those threads. And for the most part, they don't get zapped, locked, etc.
On one of the other boards I frequent, a recent political thread -- which had NOT even gotten nasty -- got locked. The explanation given was that it looked like it might be getting nasty (which was a real possibility), and previous experience made the moderators agree to nip it in the bud. Personally, that sort of attitude is why I visit there occasionally, but no longer call it home. (Especially combined with the tendency of the nastiness to then get discussed behind people's backs in IRC.)
Hatrack: we may not always be nice, but we're always honest. Sometimes painfully so. Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
What's the forum rivka?
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote:Civilization is the Art of Living in Cities
Every once in awhile, believe it or not, I meet civilised people out here in the sticks.
Oh, also - I brought the refreshements. *hands around vegetable platters and hummus*
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
quote:Hatrack: we may not always be nice, but we're always honest.
I think you should add "unless people are trying to guess your gender. In which case, feel free to screw with their minds."
quote: Every once in awhile, believe it or not, I meet civilised people out here in the sticks.
And, believe it or not, most people I meet in Phoenix are everything but civilized. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I'd rather not specify, Noemon. I mentioned it only for illustrative purposes.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: Most people I meet in Phoenix are everything but civilized.
People in Jerusalem are not even close to that.
A Kurdish kid once said to me (in Hebrew):
He: "Will you stop it! All you !@#$%^& Americans! That !@#$%^& English you speak! Get a life! Speak Hebrew God dammit!"
I: "Listen to me, you Moroccan-"
He: "HEY! DON'T YOU CALL ME MOROCCAN! I'M KURDISH!"
I: "I know that. I'm not American. I'm Australian; don't ever call me American or you'll find youself in severe agony. In addition, I'd love to speak Hebrew with you, once you learn how to speak the language properly."
You see, culture is abscent, civilisation is a step beyond that, if - and only if - you relate to the context it was originally said in.
Jonny
P.S. Sorry for posting so late, I was asleep.
[ December 17, 2004, 03:43 AM: Message edited by: Jonathan Howard ]
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Hatrack is my hometown. Hatrack is a place where I can find interest and compassion. Hatrack is a place where I can seek advices. Hatrack is a place where I can debate of my ideas with people who really want to debate and not to shout their opinion to each other. Hatrack makes me think. Often. And sometimes changes my mind, or on the contrary helps me to discover the real reasons behind my opinions. Hatrack makes me laugh too. Often. Hatrack is a big window open on the world around. I love Hatrack. to my fellow Hatrackers.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Hello, Hatrack!
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
No problem rivka.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I stay with Hatrack (even when I try not to) because it is mostly intelligent conversation -- something that is hard to find these days. I like hanging with intelligent people who make me think -- broaden my world view.
I often don't agree with everything said; and sometimes I even go the whole range of emotions (anger, sad, happy) through Hatrack posts for the day, but overall my experiences here have, I think, help to form me into someone with a rounder viewpoint than I had before I came here.
FG
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I'm here for the pie.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Oh, that is true also. There is always someone to bring food for parties. Party ! Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
quote: And, believe it or not, most people I meet in Phoenix are everything but civilized.
DaG, stop talking about me behind my back. Wait, or was that in reference to slacker? But you are right, I've met plenty of people who've never lived in anything larger than a farm cluster that I'd happily call civilised, and plenty of city dwellers that I'd like to see their land-dwelling privileges revoked.
I'll have to ponder upon a serious answer to the thread though, other that to break my work day up into bite sized chunks.
Feyd Baron, DoC
Posted by babager (Member # 6700) on :
You good folks here at Hatrack help me focus my thoughts. You help me to take a step back and think about why I hold certain beliefs and opinions. You help me to look at all sides of an issue. And for the most part I have found a community that values tolerance in a way that is almost nonexistent in the real world. Hatrack is a very refreshing place to be! (Of course there are a few notable exceptions to this, as has been noted in the "Who is poisoning the well at Hatrack thread".
Oh.. and I look really cool to my friends.. with all the cool links I e-mail them that you all provide me here in Hatrack!! Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
I'm here for the same reasons as Kat's first post. Although not in that order.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Kat's first post is here because she put it here. Kat put you here? How did she do that?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
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Kayla
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As to the unique phrasing, I thought it was cute. It just made me wonder what you native language was, so I clicked on your profile and noticed you were in Israel which made me wonder if English was a second language. Sorry if I've offended you.![[Wink]](wink.gif)
child and all but I just can't imagine him ever being able to, or wanting to, post at Hatrack. I'm so old.
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to my fellow Hatrackers.
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Hello, Hatrack!
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