I am a full-fledged hippy!! But I wasn't around in the 60's and 70's...so don't ask if I have gotten high because the answer is no. I am a huge enviroment freak and am a vegetarian(no telling how long I will be able to stand it......because those McDonald's cheeseburgers are really calling). Does anyone know where all of my brethren have gone? I can't find any under rocks anywhere... Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Out on the road today I saw a dead-head sticker on a cadillac... Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
Gone to graveyards, every one.
Posted by dread pirate romany (Member # 6869) on :
Well, the best place on the web to find hippies is Happy Hippie . I think they all kind of grew old and went corporate, but there's a "new wave" of us into environmetalism and tie-dye.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Just remember that those McDonald's cheeseburgers are dead flesh. Works for me everytime. Oh, and most McDonald's will make you a grilled cheese, by the way.
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Posted by Lost Ashes (Member # 6745) on :
Just remember, it's hard to argue the merits of vegetarianism while wearing suede Birkenstoks or a leather jacket...
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
suddenly I have "First I was a Hippy, Then I was a Stock Broker, Now I am a Hippy Again" going through my head.
Darn those Bobs....
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Do you know how many McDonald's they have to kill to make one of those things?
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Lost Ashes, you bring up an interesting theory - and one that I hear all the time, said with a slight sneer.
It is quite possible to argue the merits of vegetarianism while continuing to use animal products in clothing, shoes, etc. Many people are vegetarians for health reasons and no other reason beyond that. But if we're talking about a self-named hippy, than yep....I expect them to weave their own shoes out of natural fibers.
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Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
I have just two words for you: Santa Cruz. That's where all the hippies have gone. Posted by dread pirate romany (Member # 6869) on :
Some of my vegetarian friends get around that by only buying second hand leather...not sure if that counts.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
This thread got me thinking of "Where have All the Flowers Gone"-- a hippy song, for sure. Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Taos, New Mexico.
Gainesville, FL. has the largest population of Hare Krishnas in the continental U.S., too.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
That's funny, dpr. I'm not sure if it counts either, but it's a damned good try.
Personally, though I'm a vegetarian, I do wear leather shoes and have leather and suede purses. *waits for the "real" hippies to protest* But, I've also discovered that it's virtually impossible to not use animal products (though my use is blantent). After discovering that animal products are used in VCR tapes I kinda gave up.
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Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
Last I heard most of them grew up, started doing coke, and mutated into yuppies. The hippie ideal was always unworkable; you are never going to convince those in power to give it up via peace, love, and reefer. The people in power like crusades, cash, and alcohol. Besides, for every one true hippy there were three or four who were just in it for the sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Of course the men also had the always-popular "moral" excuse not to die in some godforsaken Asian hellhole while killing yellow people. So support the war in Iraq, and in a few more years the hippies might rise again.
[ February 07, 2005, 06:43 PM: Message edited by: Danzig ]
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
If you are familiar with hippy-speak, the word "gone" has special meaning, as in: "way gone, man!" Ideally, all hippies are "gone."
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
My sister buys second-hand furs and leather. Her idea is to not increase the demand, but not let that specific animal's death be in vain by getting as much use out of it as possible.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
This thread is making me think that I don't use my full fledged veganism as a source for absolute moral authority nearly often enough.
I should get on that.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Out on the road today I saw a dead-head sticker on a cadillac...
A little voice inside my head said, don’t Look back. you can never look back.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
♫The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind. The answer is blowin' in the wind.♪
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
"Where Have All The Flowers Gone?" predates hippies by a lot.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
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Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
You got your hair combed back, too?
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
I guess I never was meant for glitter rock and roll.
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Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Dag, that's true, but it was widely sung by my dad's hippy friends...
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Oh, yes. Pete was quite popular with the long-hair set. Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
"Where have all the Flowers Gone" was written in 1961.
If the Hippies weren't around by then, surely the Beatniks were. "I'm Hip, man!" Seems to me probably a cross over period.
As a point of interest, Pete Seeger once played a song written by my mother on national television. He later recorded the song. Last fall we met him at the Sloop Club, and he began singing the song to my mother.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
1961? My search turned up the 50's.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
1961 Fall River Music Inc. All rights reserved.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
"Of course the men also had the always-popular "moral" excuse not to die in some godforsaken Asian hellhole while killing yellow people"
Are you implying that hippies did not fight in the Vietnam War? Because you would be very wrong about that.
I know a number of friends I consider to be "real" hippies, though they would not really agree about what, exactly, a hippie is.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
GA, if you read the history of the song, that's not the earliest version of it. There's an earlier version that was recorded in 195... 7? I think? ...according to what I read.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
I'm just looking at the sheet music in a "Sing Out" publication: "Rise up Singing." It says one of the verses was written by Joe Hickerson. Inspired by 3 lines from a Ukrainian folksong.
Probably has some history, it's a folk song afterall...
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
Hey, beatniks were around it 57 too. Though much less likely to have long hair.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
1956 is the earliest I found. The confusing thing with copyright is that each individual performance can be copyrighted, as well as the original lyrics and music.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Here is a web definition.
"someone who rejects the established culture; advocates extreme liberalism in politics and lifestyle"
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
Actually I don't think the tune is original. I've heard it somewhere else.
Sounds to me like Pete probably wrote part of it, but it wasn't complete until Hickerson added the last verse in 1961. (although the last verse is the first verse, so does he get writing credit for a reprise? If not, which verse did he write? Maybe he added the soldiers to graveyards, in order to make graveyards to flowers possible.)
Like I said, it's folk song.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
Nah, that definition is way too general. The Hippies were a product of a specific generation, with culture handed down from the hobo culture of the Great Depression, and the beat generation of the fifties, along with a general sprinkling of american folk music.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
Where have all the hippies gone? Well, most of them have grown out of it.
quote:Just remember that those McDonald's cheeseburgers are dead flesh.
That alone makes me want to go get one right now. When Verily gets hungry, things die. Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one singing Peter Paul & Mary!
Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
Not so much the real hippies as the people who took only the fun/convenient parts of the philosophy, and were dishonest with others (and sometimes themselves) about their reasons for doing so.
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
In memory of my father:
"He's an old hippie but he don't know what to do should he hang onto the old should he grab onto the new? . . . He ain't trying' to change nobody He's just trying real hard to adjust."
I miss that man so much - he didn't raise me - we didn't even have a real relationship until I was an adult and had a baby - but once we got to know one another, he was always right there. Getting to know him was always like coming home - and when he died a few years ago, Nathan and I lost such a valuable, important person in our lives.
*wipes a tear*
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
My shrink is a hippie.
Posted by kyrie (Member # 6415) on :
You might be liveing in the wrong place. It depends on where you live. I dont find to many in the the town here, but in Bloomington you meet them all the time... although that may be because your parents introduse you... or you meet the parents of your friends. hmm. I hold many of the same beliefs as hippys did/do, however the term usually refers to the spicific culture, in the spicific generation. Clasification as a hippy now means relitivly little. Our generation dosent really have a name... so I guess stick with it untill you can think of something that more accuretly describes you:)
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
"Yuppie-tai-ai-oh, get a job, you old hippie, Trade your dungaree jacket for a suit and a tie; Yuppie-tai-ai-oh, get upwardly mobile, For the almighty dollar's gonna be your new high."
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
According to Spider Robinson, many hippies migrated to Canada and are still groovin'. Posted by Nato (Member # 1448) on :
Eugene, Oregon.
All the hippies worth their birkenstocks come here. (During July for the Oregon Country Fair at least.)
Fake edit: Okay, I admit that there are hippies elsewhere too. But ours are hippier.
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
New! Improved! Now 30% hippier!
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
quote:This thread is making me think that I don't use my full fledged veganism as a source for absolute moral authority nearly often enough.
I should get on that.
Oh, don't do that! I was in a touring cello choir once that had two vegans. One of them was a live-and-let-live kind of person, but the other one...constantly lectured EVERYONE on what they were eating. I'd be sitting down to eat something, and she'd say, "Oh. My. GOD. Do you KNOW what's IN that? How can you POSSIBLY eat that? That's DISGUSTING!"
She would then proceed to expound on how she put nothing into her body that was bad for it...right before she went out and had a smoke. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Megan, We have lots of militant natural food eaters in this area as well. I am all for being as healthy as possible, but I would never bust in on someone's conversation about coffee to tell them that white coffee filters have dioxin in them, like my first physical therapist did.
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Southern Rhode Island.
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
Sedona was mentioned.
Flagstaff, AZ is also a big one. When I went to NAU there, I saw quite a few.
Not sure if they were simply adopting the culture or were truly hippies.
Of course, I'd guess the same question could be asked about those who where hippies in the 60's and 70's. Some truly espousing the ideals. Others in it for the cultural "freedom".
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Hippies themselves disagree about what a hippie is.
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
The way I see it, I have sharp teeth for a reason, and boy do I like the way steak tastes. Mmmm...yummy cow. Also, there's something very primal about leaning over a plate of ribs and gnawing on the bones I suppose I'm just not as sophisticated as all you veggies
[ February 08, 2005, 10:03 AM: Message edited by: TheHumanTarget ]
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Hippies are not necessarily vegetarians.
Posted by Mike (Member # 55) on :
A guy I lived with over the summer a few years ago, who was something of a hippy himself, had a t-shirt that read "I love vegetarians". He wasn't a vegetarian.
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
I love vegetarians too. They taste like chicken.
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
There's a whole lot of them here in Roanoke and a ton here at Hollins. In fact, the professor Andrew replaced this year (long hair, sleeps with all the single, female professors) informed me within 2 hours of our first meeting that he hates cops.
Most of them are not obnoxious like that, though. They're mostly very nice and they wear honest-to-goodness hippie clothing. Of course, Andrew is a Republican and I'm a libertarian NRA recruiter, so we're somewhat out of our element amongst them.
Posted by dread pirate romany (Member # 6869) on :
quote:I am all for being as healthy as possible, but I would never bust in on someone's conversation about coffee to tell them that white coffee filters have dioxin in them, like my first physical therapist did.
Yes, the appropriate thing to say is "paper coffee filters? You do know they make re-usable ones, don't you?"
Posted by dread pirate romany (Member # 6869) on :
Also, I'm a non-vegetarian hippie. But, McD's...ewww. HippyGirl, have you reas "Fast Food Nation"?
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Who cares what's in the cheeseburger. The question is 'Does it taste good'? Mmmm. If you want a really interesting view on what's in your food, do a search on the Agriculture Dept's acceptable limits for dead rats, mice, rodents, and "fecal matter" in our wheat, corn meal, and produce.
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
Recently I had a promising short story idea that satirizes both NRA/hunting culture as well as the hippie/PETA/vegan crowd. This thread might give me good input, I hope.
[ February 08, 2005, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: Morbo ]
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
**Confession**
I watched "Supersize Me" last week with my daughter. What did I want to eat the whole way through the movie? McDonald's. It's sad, I know, but true.
Posted by dread pirate romany (Member # 6869) on :
Mmmm, as far as taste goes, nothing will cure you of McD's like a well-made buffalo burger.
Now, that's what bovine is supposed to taste like.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
We have a bison farm nearby, and I have been working up the nerve... It is not that a McD's burger tastes better than a good, all beef burger, it is the whole package o' taste. I just love it. No cure necessary, I just don't have it very often.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I'm helping butcher a buffalo the traditional way next week.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Ew! Reminds me of "chicken harvest" at the first school I taught at.
Posted by NewbTheTERRIBLErEVENge (Member # 5588) on :
"I watched "Supersize Me" last week with my daughter. What did I want to eat the whole way through the movie? McDonald's. It's sad, I know, but true."
I think perhaps such films and books are only meant as a conspiracy to get the evil inclinations of the human spirit to buy still more junk.
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