Harry P. the Cardigan Corgi that is Jake's nephew will be there. The lightning bolt on his ear, is the reason why he has his name.
AJ
Posted by Zeugma (Member # 6636) on :
I enjoyed the brief glimpse of the Boxer in the working group last night. I'd love to watch a Boxer breed competition. Even if there isn't enough of a focus on plain brindles right now.
We also really liked the crazy new Working breed, the one with the huuuge amount of extra skin. Wow!
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
They actually have videos of the full judging of each breed. Here's the Cardigan one.
AJ
Posted by bunbun (Member # 6814) on :
My money's on the German short hair.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I'm being jealous at the moment because I don't have cable. But I'm pretty sure one of my mom's friend's taped it, so I'll watch later. I'm hoping for who ever wins herding group! (hopefully harry p, but a sheltie or just about anything else would do).
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Do they ever put a little detective cap and a pipe on the bloodhounds?
Posted by bunbun (Member # 6814) on :
We're still on the hounds. The herders are last before best in show.
I'll keep a look out for HP. (edited for spoilers--sorry!)
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Posted by bunbun (Member # 6814) on :
without a little Sherlock Holmes hat...
(Harlan Pepper, you stop namin' nuts!)
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Cookie? Cookie Googleman?
Posted by bunbun (Member # 6814) on :
This is not a bee. This is a fish.
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
We bought our puppy a bee because of Best in Show.
She ate its legs.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Thank God we live in a world with catalogs, then.
Posted by bunbun (Member # 6814) on :
God loves a terrier Yes he does
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Yay! A Great Pyrenees won the working class!!
Farmgirl
Posted by bunbun (Member # 6814) on :
I just saw Harry P. I feel so special, knowing a dog that's on TV.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Well, the German Short Hair won.
I can't watch this without laughing because of the movie Best in Show.
Also, does it make me horribly immature if I inwardly giggle whenever they say "bitch"?
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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
There is a cool slide show of photos from the event at This Link Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
AJ, What "class" or group do Welsh Corgi's fall under? (like the Pyrs are under "Working" class)
Farmgirl
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Mmmm...Westminster Kennel Club...grade A flavored meat Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I'm not AJ, but corgi's are herding, in with the collies, sheperds, and other stuff like that (puli too I think? something a bit strange).
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
If I wanted to eat a dog, would it be legal in America?
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Ooops...sorry guys, I forgot we're not in Korea!
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
No...it's definitely illegal.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
It is? In which states and under which law?
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
In the video of them judging the Corgi's (which took FOREVER compared to the Pyrs!) -- I understand they sometimes slip little treats to the doggies as they are showing them in order to have them behave a certain way.
But what is it that I see some of the HANDLERS putting in their mouths sporadically?
And when they list the winners, how come they list the name of the breeders and the owners, but not the handlers?
Farmgirl
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
I stand corrected. There are no laws specifically outlawing eating dogs or cats in the U.S., which I find very suprising, given the level of effort we expend to bring other countries into line. I had just assumed that it was illegal. I wonder if this is covered in animal cruelty law...
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
farmgirl, I'm curious about those too, we'llh ave to wait for AJ, and she's at work without hatrack open today.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Why is it more cruel to eat a dog than to eat a pig? That doesn't make sense to me.
But then, I guess it doesn't have to.
Posted by IdemosthenesI (Member # 862) on :
Look, until you can show me a doggie equivalent of A Letter from a Birmingham Jail, I see no problem treating them like I would any other animal. That includes eating them, if you so desire. This wouldn't be cruelty to animals, because they would (hoppefully) be dead at the time of consumption. That being said, no of course I personally wouldn't eat an adorable pooch!
Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
I suppose as long as the animal is treated decently while it's alive and killed as humanely as possible, I wouldn't have a problem with it being eaten whatever the species. But personally I don't think I could eat a dog, cat, or other "companion" animal, I just wouldn't feel right about it.
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
A culture can ban specific animals from consumption (India-cows) based on the rulese of their society. To argue whether they should or shouldn't be eaten is irrelevant unless it's taken in context of the society involved. In many countries, dog meat is food, and beef isn't. In some cultures, people were food, and only outside interference changed what was a accepted norm in these societies.
Posted by Avadaru (Member # 3026) on :
quote: But what is it that I see some of the HANDLERS putting in their mouths sporadically?
I'm afraid what you see the handlers putting in their mouths is the same thing that they are feeding the dog. It's called bait, and showing the dog the treat to get its attention is called baiting. Usually it's liver in some form or another, but bait can really be anything that the dog enjoys. (I've used shrimp, cheese, bread, chicken, and on one desperate occasion, fried calamari.) Since the handlers need the free use of their hands most of the time while showing, the most convenient place to keep the bait when not being used is in the mouth. Some handlers keep their bait in pockets or on their armband. Keeping it in the mouth ensures that it can easily be reached, won't fall out while you're running around the ring, and it also teaches the dog to watch your face. If you'll notice a lot of handlers who have their dogs in a perfect free stack aren't holding bait where anyone can see it - but the dogs are watching their faces, because they know where it's coming from. I've even seen some handlers spit the bait straight from their mouths to the dog's. I was pretty grossed out by baiting at first, especially since I'm a vegetarian, but it's just another part of showing that you get used to. My German Shepherds are very responsive to bait, so I usually let them chew on it a little bit then I take it away and stick it back in my mouth. It horrifies my mother and my friends that I put something in my mouth that has formerly been in a dog's mouth, but I let them kiss me on my mouth, so I don't much see the difference.
Hope that answers your question. Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
That's kinda what I thought...
....but then I thought I must be wrong...
FG
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
*bumpity* See Farmgirl, I'm not the only dog expert on here. Just the one with the loudest mouth.
I didn't mean to start this thread and then run but shortly after I did, I realized I needed to drastically cut back on hatrack because I've got to make sure I'm on top of everything at work before the puppies come so I can take a couple days off without causing chaos. We already have one of our other main lab personell out on bereavement leave and I've been having to do some of his normal tasks as well.
But I'll check this thread at least AJ
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
I can't wait to see a Hatracker compete and win Westminster.
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