Usually, I take absolutely no notice of newbies. I don't welcome them - I suppose because somewhere deep inside I'm just a hateful person.
But you don't "feel" like a newbie. Are you a regular under a new name, or just a long-time lurker? The tone I've seen you take with a few posters is one of comfort and familiarity, not the usual, "Crap, I don't wanna step on toes till I get to know people" bit.
space opera
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
You are right that I am not a newbie. It's hard to imagine anybody coming in acting as confident as I have been.
Well, maybe not. Trolls can seem pretty confident.
So, to answer your question, I am a regular under a new name.
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
So who are you?
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Hah! I feel like Sherlock Holmes now. Or maybe more like Blue's Clues, since it wasn't that difficult of a mystery.
So who are you? Or is it a secret? I can keep secrets, I think.
space opera
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Perhaps AntiCool is really me, just biding my time until I can have his conservative voice come to my support on some controversial issue. Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
No I'm not.
[ February 16, 2005, 06:20 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Well, I would say that, wouldn't I?
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
This is all getting a little esoteric for me.
Hobbes Posted by Intelligence3 (Member # 6944) on :
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
It's not secret who I am, but I have enjoyed interacting today without dealing with people's preconceived notions about me. I think I'll enjoy it for a little while longer.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Indeed, it is most amusing. Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
It's just a little sociological experiment, right?
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
No. I just felt like changing my clothes.
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
Drakester?
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Um, if I'm wrong about who AntiCool is, I'm not as smart as I think I am. But I'll respect your desire to not be unmasked at this time.
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
quote: It's hard to imagine anybody coming in acting as confident as I have been.
I did.
Then I shot myself in the foot, that humbled me. Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
I also have a guess, but I'll also keep my mouth shut for now.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Ditto.
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Morbo, you are the cutest li'l apocalyptic doom titan ever.
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
Ummm, thanks I guess?
I know who it is! *Not really, I just want to play along and look cool without commitment*
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Morbo -- Are you sure you weren't a troll?
[ February 16, 2005, 09:46 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I am AntiCool.
Duh.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
No, I'm AntiCool! Don't believe this impostor!
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
Don't be silly, AntiCool isn't needlessly rude and insulting. Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Thanks, muppers. :wub:
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Well the wub narrows it down.
I won't guess though.
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
I know who it is. That last post gave it away. Posted by the Professor (Member # 5319) on :
I see imogen and the muppet have fallen for the notorious "wub" ploy. What a wubly web we weave when we practice to decieve!
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
Nah, it wasn't the wub. It was sumthin' else.
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
I was right.
(And actually, I suspected the person from the posts themselves).
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I've had hunches since this morning.
The wub just nailed it.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
So, is this still a big secret? Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I have my guess, too. Can't wait to see. Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
OK, for those of you that bother to come into this thread, could I get an honest critique from you?
Yesterday I was fairly active in the "Men are Scum" thread. I responded directly to many things that Lalo said and asked him some direct answers.
Even so, I failed to get any response from Lalo. I know that I have felt ignored before, especially by certain highly visible memebers of our board, and I guess I chalked it up to people having already decided that I am an idiot and that my ideas are not worth responding to.
But that can't be the case here. Most people don't know who I am, and therefore that can't have placed me on their mental ignore list.
As I think about it, I see a few possibilities:
My posting style is generally un-engaging I guess this is possible. I see that compared to ElJay, whose reponses have been addressed on that thread, my responses tend to much shorter, and I tend to not post as many of them.
While my posting style is fine, my ideas were really lame and were not worthy of a response
My posting style is so distinct that my ideas still got ignored because of who I am and what I have posted in the past Again, possible. I have been told many times that I have a pretty distinct way of talking. But I really doubt that my posting style is all that distinct. But again, it's possible.
I didn't get any response because I am not somebody that has "earned" enough respect to be responded to. To some people, newbies are just part of the "noise" to be ignored.
It was just a fluke that Lalo never responded to me.
Now, I don't want this to be an attack on Lalo. I am not offended, and my feelings are not hurt because he didn't pat my shoulder and make me feel better. As I said, this sort of thing has happened to me before, and I want to take the opportunity to get some honest feedback as to how I come across in this bizarre medium.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I know I'm not replying to you much precisely because I'm suspicious of your need to take another name. Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Maybe your ideas were totally brilliant and he was left speechless.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
I wouldn't take it personally. I actually said things almost identical to what ElJay said earlier up in the conversation and *no one* commented until ElJay posted. Perhaps brevity is overlooked sometimes.
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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Or sometimes I don't know how to respond properly to a poster if I don't already have some "idea" of what their personality is..
Farmgirl
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
quote:I know I'm not replying to you much precisely because I'm suspicious of your need to take another name. [Smile]
Yes. I forgot to list that as one of the options.
I can totally understand that, Tom. I would probably react the same way.
For what it's worth, I didn't intend to come in here disguised. I intended to just change my name, and answer the first person who asked who I was.
But by the time anybody asked me, I was already curious as to whether 1) people were really responding to me differently, because of my different name 2) I was posting differently because of my short-lived anonimity or 3) I was viewing other's responses through a different filter than normal.
I was curious about those things, which is why I declined to answer yet.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Yeah, my posts are often ignored, too. I wouldn't take it personally.
*agrees with Tom*
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
quote:Maybe your ideas were totally brilliant and he was left speechless.
Sorry, but no.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Same for me as for Tom. It is a situation that felt both artificial and unsettling to me, so I chose not to engage.
No offense meant by this.
[ February 17, 2005, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Dude. I totally understand. No offence taken at all.
In fact, now I'm feeling like a cretin. I'm torn between just coming clean as to who I am and just slinking away, leaving this name to the garbage heap.
[ February 17, 2005, 12:24 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Frankly, I was going to ask Lalo why he kept responding solely to me when there were so many other people saying the same things. Although I will admit (and have admited on that thread) that I was posting in a deliberately flamboyant style in an attempt to engage Lalo on his own terms.
And AntiCool, I believe I addressed something directly to you on another thread that you never responded to. I've changed my mind about thinking I know who you are, now I have no idea. But I see nothing wrong with your posting style and have no idea why people wouldn't respond to you.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
No way! You gotta tell!
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Okay then...since I can't figure it out, who are you?
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Probably a fluke, in all honesty.
When I was relatively new, I used to keep informal track of all the threads I had killed. I felt somewhat insecure about it, too.
It also seemed to me that my threads always died after a couple dozen posts or so. I even went through a phase (that lasted about one thread) of trying to be a little more inflamatory in my thread-starting posts, before I decided that was just not me. I just decided to accept the fact that my threads don't attract a lot of attention . . .
. . . except it ain't really true. What happens is that, like most people, I suspect, I only paid attention to the threads that support this hangup. The threads I started that went multiple pages I discounted as exceptions to the rule. But then I started to think about those threads. I started the Weight-Loss Encouragement thread a good two years ago, and it's still active at 9 pages or so. The Dingle thread . . . well, what needs to be said? A Hug thread that has five pages or so, last time I checked. And I realized that I was just being silly.
Now I'm generally less inclined to care.
Most people are insecure. Most people think they get less attention paid to them than others do. Most people can find evidence for this assertion. The exceptions to this tend to disparage the attention they get, and characterize themselves as attention whores. (And of course, there are trolls, who get far more attention than they should.)
So don't sweat it. There are undoubtedly people who get paid more attention than you (or I) do. Who cares? Is it important to "win" in this? I refuse to believe that nobody listens to you at all. So you are conversing with people here . . . and isn't that the point?
Okay, I'll shut the heck up now. :-p
P.S. - Even in the last month, there have been threads where I have said something, and then Dag or Tom or Moose says basically the exact same thing, and ten people chime in with "I agree with Tom" or even "I agree with Tom and CT" or whatever. *shrug* It happens.
[ February 17, 2005, 12:37 PM: Message edited by: Icarus ]
Posted by ghost of dkw (Member # 4046) on :
I stopped posting on that thread because it was more fun to sit back and watch Lalo attempt to patronize ElJay. Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Added: I was wondering why I wasn't getting any support. What kind of a tag team partner are you, anyway?
[ February 17, 2005, 12:37 PM: Message edited by: ElJay ]
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
*refrains from pointing out that I responded to at least a couple of AntiCool's posts on that thread, not that it matters, because it's far more prestigious to be answered by Lalo*
And I haven't the slightest idea who AntiCool is.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
If I based continued participation at Hatrack with the level of responses I've generally gotten to my posts over the years, I would have been gone years ago. I think all but a few people feel like they are often neglected, and the ones who don't feel this way are simply people who post so much that they think they are being responded to, when it's really just subsequent posts of their own
-Bok
[ February 17, 2005, 01:49 PM: Message edited by: Bokonon ]
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
quote:the ones who don't feel this way are simply people who post so much that they think they are being responded to, when it's really just subsequent posts of their own
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Once again, Bok knows best.
Also, I think it's important to remember that different people are attracted to different posting styles. Personally, I prefer posters who don't "over-post." It bugs me when I see the same poster in every thread day in and day out 'cause I get bored with them. There are a lot of posters who I keep my eye on (isn't that a scary thought!) because they don't post all the time, so their posts are like little wordy gems.
Anyway, AntiCool, I think you should tell us who you are - if you want to - soon, 'cause I gotta go get some stuff done.
space opera
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
quote:Once again, Bok knows best.
You see?
YOU SEE?!
That's it.
I'm leaving!
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
What? Bok is leaving? You've been here so long!
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
quote: YOU SEE?!
Don't you hate posters that use all caps in their posts. I usually ignore those.
[ February 17, 2005, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: zgator ]
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Personally, I prefer posters who don't "over-post." It bugs me when I see the same poster in every thread day in and day out
Yeah, I agree. Crazy over-posters.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Pfft. It doesn't say Bok, it says Icky. Can't you read Icarus? It clearly says, "Once again, Icky knows best."
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Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Wow! Dag, I am coveting your post-count. Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
I'm not. Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Heh. Now I've got people wondering if they "over-post."
I'm a bad, bad woman.
space opera
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
First of all, let me say that I know that many people have responded to me on many different threads.
I just mentioned the "Men are scum" thread because it is something that, to my view, has happened time and time again.
I especially appreciated what ElJay said to me yesterday. I never really connected to you before, ElJay, but at least something good has come out of this weirdness.
You guys are right. I never feel a need to respond to every little thing said by others -- I respond to those things that I have a response for.
I relly feel like a whining "look at me! I need attention" weenie.
OK, I don't want to be the kind of coward that I feel like right now. I am mr_porteiro_head. I never intended to make a scene. It just ... happened.
The only reason why I changed my name at all is that I came up with a name that I really liked, and that I wanted to use. I started using it, and I guess I got caught up in the mystery of it, and prolonged things much longer than I am now happy with.
I think that some of the reasons I got caught up in it are: 1. I am insecure, and that insecurity manifests it with: 2. I often feel that since everybody knows that I am a Mormon living in Utah with children, my opinions can be safely ignored. After all, of *course* I am going to be conservative. Of *course* I [insert long list of stereotypical Mormon behaviors, attitudes, and beliefs].
For instance, why even bother talking with a Mormon about abortion? You already know what they are going to believe, and you aren't going to change their mind. This probably says much more about me than about anything else, to my shame.
And you know what? 95% of the time, I fall right into the stereotypical Mormon mold. This either means that a) I am mostly an unthinking lemming (even though I know that the story of suicidal lemmings is a myth) following first what my parents taught me and later what my culture tells me or b) as a thinking person, I have come to share most of the attitudes and opinions that people generally associate with those of my faith.
I personally like to believe b), but I often wonder if people have assumed a). After all, it is so much easier to do so put me in a neat little cubby-hole.
And yet again, I probably reveal my own failures and lack of charity more than anything else.
Anyway, I'm sorry for the ruckus, I'm sorry for making a scene, and I'm sorry for acting like a jackdonkey.
P.S. Purely for narcissistic curiosity, those of you who knew who I am -- how did you know? Do I have a distinctive posting style? I don't try to.
[ February 17, 2005, 01:16 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
To remove any doubt, I confirm my above post with this one.
I am AntiCool.
AntiCool is also the screen name I've been using for the last day.
[ February 17, 2005, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: mr_porteiro_head ]
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
With me, it's more about overkill.
I once considered going through every thread in the active list and counting who killed how many threads. I wanted to support my theory that I've killed the most.
Edit: And thanks for bringing all of that out, MPH. It's good to know somebody else feels just like I do.
[ February 17, 2005, 01:18 PM: Message edited by: advice for robots ]
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I knew because you made a couple supportive remarks in my thread and then disappeared, after which most of the remarks in that same tone came from Anti Cool.
And I promise that I never thought less of you throughout the entire deal.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
quote:I knew because you made a couple supportive remarks in my thread and then disappeared, after which most of the remarks in that same tone came from Anti Cool.
Yeah, I was never really trying to be sneaky. Good on 'ya, though.
quote:And I promise that I never thought less of you throughout the entire deal.
Unfortunately, I did.
[ February 17, 2005, 01:19 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
quote: I personally like to believe b), but I often wonder if people have assumed a).
Based on all the posts of yours I've read, I've gone with (b) since early on.
And I'm not saying that just to be nice.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
You'd better not be!
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Part of my problem with this whole thing is that it has forced me to recognize the fact that I am still, on some levels, insecure with myself. I thought I had left that ugly part of myself behind long ago. I have not enjoyed learning that I apparently didn't.
Not that this is really that big a deal. I'm not distraught, tearing my clothes, and I have no need for sackcloth nor ashes. I'm just a little dissapointed in myself.
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
I knew because of the "wub".
And the name.
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
Seriously, you have always struck me as someone who has thought out their opinions for themselves and not simply relied on what the church, society, etc. tells them to believe.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
What about the name?
IRL, am I really that uncool?
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Uncool is very different than anti-cool.
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
Annie said it exactly.
I do not think you are either. However, I do think you are think you are anticool. Since we name ourselves, it was something I can see you naming yourself. Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
What zgator said.
I can't say that I don't feel disappointed in the fact that you felt you had to resort to such a tactic.
I know that you have felt unhappy and out of place at Hatrack at various times, for various reasons. I think we all do, at times (except maybe Tom ).
I haven't really seen any sign, though, that people routinely ignore your posts. You are, in general, much more active than I am in the forum. I regularly see you engaged in many of the discussions, responding and be responded to.
No one responds to every post. Sometimes I just read and digest the thought. I don't feel the need to jump in and say "good thought" or some other inane comment ( ) every time I see a post that makes a good point. If I don't have something relevant to say, I may just read and stay silent.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Wow -- mph, huh?
I was sure it was a woman.....
Farmgirl
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Anticool is the new cool.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
quote:I do not think you are either. However, I do think you are think you are anticool. Since we name ourselves, it was something I can see you naming yourself. [Smile]
*shrivels under the microscope*
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote: I especially appreciated what ElJay said to me yesterday. I never really connected to you before, ElJay, but at least something good has come out of this weirdness.
Cool.
I do think your posting style has been slightly different under the new name, but not hugely.
Wanna know my insecurity secret related to Hatrack? People, male and female, started responding to me in vast numbers after pictures of me were first posted. Before people knew what I looked like, I felt pretty much ignored.
Now, I don't think people would respond to me based just on my looks if I wasn't saying something they felt was worth responding to. But I do think I get much more attention paid to me because I fit society's current definition of attractiveness than I would if I didn't. And I'm not blaming anyone for that, it's part of human nature. But it makes me wonder how much y'all just like me because I'm cute. (That was meant as a slam on me and my self-confidence, not on anyone else here.)
The counter argument is that pictures of me first appeared right around KamaCon, when I met a lot of people in person and got to know them, so they could have started responding to me more because I was now real to them, which made me more comfortable and active, which would make other people more likely to respond to me. Most of the time I go with that explination.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
LJ, I have no idea what you look like, so it wasn't that.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I knew it! I just got this vibe from you. I don't know if it's a "style", but you're just more, I don't know, mature and reasoned than a lot of people, and you have distinctive ways of voicing your positions... I don't know, I can't really pin it down.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:The counter argument is that pictures of me first appeared right around KamaCon, when I met a lot of people in person and got to know them, so they could have started responding to me more because I was now real to them, which made me more comfortable and active, which would make other people more likely to respond to me. Most of the time I go with that explination.
Yeah, I would go with that explanation, Eljay. A lot of us starting feeling a lot more connected after Endercon. Same thing after Wenchcon. Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote: LJ, I have no idea what you look like, so it wasn't that.
Oh, I totally didn't think so in that context, Anticool. I was just sharing that, as someone who is responded to here pretty frequently, I'm still insecure about why I'm responded to.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Porter, I like you even more after this. I also am going to be more aware of pigeon-holing people. Thanks -- I did need a bit of a shake to wake me up.
I, uh, figured you were mothertree. Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Oh, I'm officially not as smart as I thought I was.
But I like Mr. Homestarrio Eyes better.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Give it up, Trisha. Who did you think I was?
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Look at what I miss when I go eat lunch!
I would have never guessed mph, so I'm surprised. You have always seemed very very confident to me and sure of yourself. Insecure was something that I wouldn't have equated with you.
But, I guess that just shows how little we know people. Sometimes I would really love for people on Hatrack to tell me how they view me. It would be pretty interesting to see if they're right or not. AntiCool, I hope you're happy with your new name, and I hope you stay around for a long time.
space opera
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
No, you are both very smart. I think I picked up on a certain similarity in wry humor, impatience, and some (what are to me) conservative themes. I never would have thought of you two as similar before, but I can see it now.
Well-versed, articulate, confident, and sometimes a little impatient with fools, but in a controlled and polite way. Really, it is just amazing.
[And yeah, I own up to some eyes-glossing-over when I'd see your name on a more fiesty thread, mph. I assumed I knew what you would say. I am aware of that now, where I wasn't before.]
[ February 17, 2005, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
quote:You have always seemed very very confident to me and sure of yourself. Insecure was something that I wouldn't have equated with you.
Same here. It surprised me. The junior high version of myself -- sure. But anything since then?
Well, I guess I'm just human afer all. Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Does bev know? Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Yeah, she's known all along, but was kind enough to not post in this thread while I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do. I hear her typing upstairs, so she'll probably post very soon.
[ February 17, 2005, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
I have never seen a picture of you, ElJay. I will admit that I paid a little more attention at first because of your relationship to dkw, who I think is supercool. *shrug* Human nature. But then I came to appreciate all the coolness that you add to every thread you post in.
-o-
Dang, mph. You came over from the other side with the greatest fanfare of any "newbie" I have ever seen. I always felt like some sort of "cognosenti" because I occasionally post over there, so you were not new to me. I felt some sort of weird ownership, like I had something to do with your presence here (like what anne kate used to get when she introduced a cool newbie to the rest of us)--Actually, part of that feeling had to do with my initial assumption that you were Latino like I am.--until it occurred to me that, while I had read your posts on the other side, I had never actually interacted with you over there, and so there was every likelihood that, while I thought of you as kind of a friend, you probably didn't know who the hell I was! (I have a vague memory of you misreading something I said some time ago, and being stunned that you could misinterpret me so, and this brought that home to me.)
Diagram the above paragraph. I double dog dare you.
Anyway, any Hatracker who has a spouse on Hatrack achieves instant coolness. Everyone knows that. Sheesh.
-o-
Honestly, I can't think of any Hatrackers who have been around less time than me who make me feel more insecure about thw worth of my contributions that mph and ElJay.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
I've tried out a couple different names:
Anthem Lord of all Fools
and one I won't be listing here ever, because it's handy having a demon personality. (I've posted as this person maybe five times in all of my history on Hatrack)
But I always come back to Scott R. I take greater pleasure in having people know me than wonder about me.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
One thing I've always wondered is how couples living together handle posting at Hatrack. If my wife ever started posting here, we would have to log in and out frequently and pretty much sit at the same table, as we only have one computer at home. Talk about an interesting way to carry on a conversation.
You don't think it's weird at all to carry on a conversation with your wife online when she's one floor away from you? Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
No, AFR, not at all. If we only had one computer, then we wouldn't be able to banter. We would have to take turns. That wouldn't be near as much fun.
Why would couples leave love notes for each other when they can just say it to them? Because it is *fun*! Besides, the discussion takes in all the wonderful people of Hatrack, and that is what really makes interesting things happen. It is like a party atmosphere, a party we are both attending, but in which we feel free to take part in different discussions or the same ones depending on our whims.
Being a couple on Hatrack is da bomb. I highly recommend it. Uh, if you have two computers, that is. Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Icky, your perception was right on, and I apologize for not picking up on you earlier.
I have always been bad with remembering people, and it takes me a long time before a person starts to gel in my mind.
For instance, there was a time that I read Daedelus (who was Lalo) and Dagonee as the same name, because Dag hadn't really gelled in my mind yet.
In high school, there were many people who knew exactly who I was, and I didn't know them at all. Not even a name.
The same thing happens here on Hatrack. Somebody will responde to me by my IRL name, and I will realize that I don't know a single thing about that person. They know me but I don't know them.
It usually takes one conversaion that both I and an individual participate in a lot for me to start recognizing that person's name. For instance, I never noticed Celia until after we both disagreed with each other on a thread about propriety and carpooling with a married person of the opposite sex. After that thread, I saw her all over the place. But before that thread, I never noticed her at all.
Nope, I'm not latino. I'm about as white as they come. In fact, right now I am doing the unspeakable and turning one of my favorite Brazillian songs into a bluegrass song. I'm such a cracker.
edit: because I still didn't know.
[ February 17, 2005, 02:12 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
My husband refuses to participate in Hatrack.
Almost everyone else in my immediate family has, though. Posted by Uhleeuh (Member # 6803) on :
You can put me in the shocked camp about AntiCool being MPH.
I've been reading the Men are scum thread and AntiCool had opinions and voiced them, not to say MPH doesn't. But everytime I've seen MPH post, it was always a quick "This is what I believe and I'm not going to explain" or "I won't even get into what I believe because you either know already or won't like what you hear." I do realize that it's impossible to see all of someone's posts and I am somewhat new around here and thus don't know people all that well, but like I said, from what I saw, MPH was vastly different from AntiCool.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:For instance, there was a time that I read Daedelus (who was John L) and Dagonee as the same name, because Dag hadn't really gelled in my mind yet.
Daedalus was Lalo.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
quote: For instance, there was a time that I read Daedelus (who was John L)
Actually, I think Daedelus is Lalo.
Edit: Ela wins!
[ February 17, 2005, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: beverly ]
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Thanks. You see another symptom of my problem. At the time I learned that Daedelus was not Dagonee, John L and Lalo were not quite distinct personalities in my mind. That has changed since then.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Daedalus was Lalo, not John L.
And I have no knowledge about posting on hatrack as a couple. No knowledge at all of bickering with your spouse online when they're sitting across the living room from you playing Halo 2. No idea what that's like.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Scott, I really like the name "Lord of all Fools." Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:Daedalus was Lalo, not John L.
Mack, you are way too slow.
Both Bev and I beat you to it.
[ February 17, 2005, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Ela ]
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Just as a thought.
What's her real name, Sara Sasse or Claudia Therese?
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Actually, it's Glaphyra the Righteous.
I smite you for your impertinance! Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote: Honestly, I can't think of any Hatrackers who have been around less time than me who make me feel more insecure about thw worth of my contributions that mph and ElJay.
Not to ridicule other's insecurities, as I know mine are just as silly, but dude... You're like, my Hatrack Hero. So that just made my jaw drop.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Sure, quote a sentence with a typo.
Hehe . . . baleeted post
[ February 17, 2005, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: Icarus ]
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Sorry about that. Every time I looked at that post, I thought I sounded stupid. I deleted it and hoped that nobobody would notice.
Let me just echo that I was very surprised to see you post that.
[ February 17, 2005, 03:05 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
Stink. I'd convinced myself you were Jon Boy.
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
I usually keep my posts on serious subjects to a minimum because I suffer the same insecurities as some have mentioned. I can't remember how many times a thread has shriveled up after I tried to make some sense. I am always impressed with the folks that can logically and rationally state their case with passion and wit. I wish I was as lucid in my writing as so many here are but, I'm not and I've learned to just enjoy those that are gifted writers.
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
I think Jon Boy has only posted once or twice since he swore of Hatrack, and both times under old pseudonyms. Not to say he wouldn't post again, but yeah.
Also, ElJay, if I paid more attention to you after having seen your picture, it's because I'm a visually oriented person, and having a face equals being real in my mind. I pay more attention to any person who has a photo on Foobonic, regardless of whether I find them attractive at all.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
OK, I just looked for ElJay's photos on foobonic. I cannot find them. Can anybody point me toward them?
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
what's foobonic?
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
The universal photo directory for the Internet. You haven't seen your picture?
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
Here is a pic of Eljay and her friend Claudia chatting with me and my father.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Which is which?
edit: Never mind. I figured it out.
[ February 17, 2005, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I am trying to change my Hatrack image to this picture. It's my favorite. Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
Kwea's too. I understand it's his wallpaper.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Wow, all these people confessing their insecurities about posting at Hatrack makes me feel like I am in high school again.
In 12th grade I made this belated discovery:
The reason other students in class didn't ask the questions that were on my mind wasn't as I had always assumed, because they already knew the answers.
See, I had always assumed that everyone else got it, and that I was just too stupid to understand what was going on. Turns out no one asked the questions for the same reason I didn't - they were afraid of appearing stupid in front of the rest of the class. (And sometimes, they didn't ask because they didn't even understand the material well enough to ask the question.)
It was the first time in my life that I realized I was smart.
And it broke my fear of asking questions.
Just for the record, I am very surprised at the number of people posting here who think they don't write or express their thoughts "well enough." Because I have never found their posts to be "sub-standard."
[ February 17, 2005, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Ela ]
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Except that in high school no one expressed their insecurities. We were all far too insecure for that! Instead we tried our best to fake it.
I am convinced that everyone has insecurities. Everyone. And the fact that we are mature enough to be open about it with each other is highly commendable and speaks volumes.
Would that high school was anything remotely resembling Hatrack. Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
The point, bev, is that no one admitted their insecurities before. Those expressing insecurities have continued to be members of Hatrack, some for quite some time, and they have this fear that their posts might somehow be viewed as "inferior." Some even restrain from posting, or limit their posting for that reason.
It is analogous with what was happening to me in high school classes. How did I find out that other people didn't know the answer, either? I started asking my classmates if they understood what the teacher was saying. And they admitted that, no they didn't understand it any better than I did.
I am not making a generalization about all high school experiences, but from my specific experience cited above.
[ February 17, 2005, 04:18 PM: Message edited by: Ela ]
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
OK, I understand. I guess in my mind, ever since I have been at Hatrack people have seemed pretty open about sharing these exact kinds of insecurities. They may not do it all the time, but when the subject is brought up, people seem willing to open up about it. So this thread doesn't surprise me at all.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:I guess in my mind, ever since I have been at Hatrack people have seemed pretty open about sharing these exact kinds of insecurities. They may not do it all the time, but when the subject is brought up, people seem willing to open up about it. So this thread doesn't surprise me at all.
Some have been open about it, it's true. But some of the people who expressed such insecurities in this thread surprised me, cause it's not people I would have expected to have such feelings.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote: I am convinced that everyone has insecurities. Everyone.
You know, I would have said two days ago that I wasn't particularly insecure about posting on Hatrack. But then I had a genuinely hard time admitting to being ticked off at OSC for a personal slight, and realized that, hey, I AM. *laugh*
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
Despite having been here for three years, I still have a case of newb-insecurity. No matter what I tell myself, I can't quite get past it. Oh well. Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:
quote:
I am convinced that everyone has insecurities. Everyone.
You know, I would have said two days ago that I wasn't particularly insecure about posting on Hatrack. But then I had a genuinely hard time admitting to being ticked off at OSC for a personal slight, and realized that, hey, I AM. *laugh*
Okay, now I really AM shocked.
[ February 17, 2005, 04:38 PM: Message edited by: Ela ]
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
quote: But some of the people who expressed such insecurities in this thread surprised me, cause it's not people I would have expected to have such feelings.
Ah, so this thread has been particularly eye-opening? Maybe the one about Porter threw people for a loop, whereas I know him well. Porter *is* a very confident person. Always has been. But even confident people are insecure.
For instance, Porter doesn't participate much in self-analyzation. So when the spotlight forces him to look at himself, he is often looking into a blind-spot. It makes him uncomfortable and feel vulnerable. He cares what other people think of him to some extent, but for the most part he is very good at not letting what other's think bother him.
I, on the other hand, have always been a self-analyzer, and am fairly comfortable with it. My insecurities lie more heavily in wondering how others perceive me, too often fearing the worst.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
quote:For instance, Porter doesn't participate much in self-analyzation.
This is true now, but it wasn't always true.
As I look back, I realize that I only did much self-analyzation back when I struggled with depression.
I wonder what that means?
[ February 17, 2005, 04:43 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I'm going to tactfully skip past the amusing typo there.... Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Well, almost. Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Lyre.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Harp.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Tu ba-d I can't reed the typo...
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
This is all very surreal. It was weird that this whole episode correlated so with my rather intense thread yesterday (I'm sure it was only intense to me) and current sentiment I've been garnering at Galactic Cactus. It's all kind of the same thing, some huge principle floating around and repetitively manifesting itself, but I can't quite nail it down.
Also, about insecurity and confidence: I'm the same way. I got very angry when a friend (acquaintance?) of mine described me to my roommate as "totally insecure, but with a lot of gumption. You gotta give her that." I was offended because this person rarely if ever spoke to me and didn't know a thing about me personally. He was also spot-on.
Weird, ain't it?
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote: What? Bok is leaving? You've been here so long!
This was perfectly executed, Annie. Terrible it didn't receive more props.
Posted by Lucky4 (Member # 1420) on :
Mph, I'm really glad you did that. It definitely made me realize that I do expect certain people to say certain things- I put statements in the context of the person I believe to have understood them to be, and that context probably isn't always fair. It'd be neat to cover up the left margin of the board for a day and see which posts I give credibility (or lack thereof) based on the post rather than the poster.
I have a theory that we build these unfair pictures because we have grown up in real life, a place where you always have a context that involves nonverbal clues and more rapport in less time. We attempt to build rapport here with inside jokes, smilies, etc., but until we meet IRL, we can only form pictures of people based on their words. And mph, you showed me that my pictures are far more one deminsional than they should be. In an attempt to feel closer to all of you, I've forced you into little boxes- that way, when I see you post, I can recognize you- "oh, that's the Mormon guy who lives in Utah with his wife and kids"- and it makes me feel like we have at least a little of that real life rapport, like we're real friends, and it gives me a context to place your remarks in. But it also limits you.
Thanks for showing me that.
(By the way, I have always respected you and Beverly a lot for your intelligence regarding your religious views, so while I do read you with a bias, it's a positive one. And this has only made you more interesting to me.)
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
Sort of on topic, I have a friend who says that ever since I (involuntarily) switched usernames, I come off as much more polite. I certainly have the exact same attitude about posting, but attaching the "Lady" label to the words made them seem more genteel to her.
That's funny.
My next username is going to be "Friendly Fan."
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Why thank you, Ralphie dahling.
Posted by ghost of dkw (Member # 4046) on :
I believe this was the first photo of ElJay ever linked to on Hatrack. I think it should be how you all think of her.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I knew what that was before I hit the link.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
I've been away for...what, about three weeks now, so I missed all of this, and have no idea if I would have realized who AntiCool was or not. You know how I feel about you though, right Porter? Oh, by the way, completely off topic, but I finally started reading that Vinge novel you sent me. I'm loving it.
ElJay, for what it's worth, I first was aware of you as someone that seemed like she'd been here longer than she had, and seemed fairly cool, then found out that you were Dana's sister, thought "huh, well, that explains it, Dana's sister would *have* to be cool, wouldn't she, then got to know you better, realizing that yes, you really were that cool, and then finally saw a picture of you and thought "wow, cool and physically attractive both!"
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Yay! I was just thinking about you today, Noemon. Glad to see you popping in.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Yay! Noemon's back!
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
I think I am rare in taking my insecurities in stride because I started up on hatrack pretty much in conjunction with being diagnosed with OCD. So I know I obsess about what others think of me and worry that the things I write are flashing neon signs about my defectiveness as a human being.
Even so, I am sometimes amazed to go back to an old post and see how far up my ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H self-absorbed my reasoning sometimes becomes.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
I have a theory that most people are insecure to some degree but they have a little inner dot-idea somewhere that says "you're fundamentally right about this!" and that is how however insecure you are you always have the strength to have opinions.
Given that, I'm not insecure. I don't think.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
quote: Given that, I'm not insecure. I don't think.
Seriously, I would like to point out that there is a difference between "being insecure" and "having insecurities". Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
quote: Give it up, Trisha. Who did you think I was?
My bad. I thought you might be AK until the :wub: thing. Then I wondered if you were my brother, briefly, only you were being a lot more civil than he ususally is on serious subjects. Like, in the men are scum thing he would have pointed out that he is always repressing a desire to kill and to make an exception for rapists... well, I don't know him well enough to continue that avenue. But he will be watching our kids while I work.
What else was I going to say? I had to pause to have a water fight with the baby (which I won) and I've lost my train of thought.
P.S. Oh yeah, I was wondering why that picture of ElJay is titled "horns", at the end of the address.
[ February 17, 2005, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: mothertree ]
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
Annie, I noticed how upset you were in that thread. I'm dissappinted with myself that I didn't email you like I told myself to.
And I admit, I've been caught in assuming that porter will just toe the mormon family man party line. I like you as a person, Porter, I just very infrequently agree with you.
Anyway, this has been a real eye-opener. I hope you'll accept my apology for sometimes making assumptions that aren't warranted...
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
BTW, I felt very flattered when CT said that she thought I was you, MT.
I also wondered if it was slightly narcissistic that you are one of my favorite posters.
[ February 19, 2005, 11:50 AM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
I didn't guess who you were, but I thought you were pretty cool as AntiCool.
Which is pretty much what I think of you as MPH, so it's all good. Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Thought I was you or... Oh, I get it. Thought I was AntiCool. That's what I get for being such an alias ho'.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Thanks Annie, thanks Bev!
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Annie, I still haven't figured out which thread you're referring to.
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
I knew! *dances*
I knew from Annie's thread on OSC's columns.
Some of your earlier responses were quite short and sharp. I think that is a posting style you sometimes fall into when you think the people disagreeing with you are being too rude or too stupid (in, of course, your opinion ).
[I can't explain it properly. But some of your posts made me think "Hey, this guy sounds like Porter..."]
Interestingly - I have noticed a change in your posting style in this thread. You seem to be explaining things in more depth and being a bit more - tolerant? perhaps.
Either way, I wouldn't feel bad about it. It added interest. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"I have a friend who says that ever since I (involuntarily) switched usernames, I come off as much more polite."
Really? I had observed the exact opposite, from my perspective. I honestly thought that you felt a bit liberated and free to mix it up a bit again.
[ February 17, 2005, 08:01 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
I think she's talking about the "If you don't enjoy OSC's columns, you don't have to read them" thread.
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
I don't know if I've really managed to be any more "true, kind, and necessary" since I changed usernames. I mean, the whole point of Hatrack is kind of unneccesary. I have been quite pointed at times, but tried not to direct pointedness my conversants.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
::smacks forehead::
Duh. I should have figured that out. But, to be honest, I didn't read that thread, because I didn't felt like I fell into either extreme, and I didn't want to witness the sniping that seemed inevitable. :-\
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
Tom: Oh, sad. Nah, it wasn't the latest thread - she first said it several weeks ago. It's possible she has more Anne Shirley in her soul.
I was delighted with the explanation, in the same way I'm delighted when she assures me that the reason (a generic) he hasn't asked me out yet is because he's intimidated.
[ February 17, 2005, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: Lady Jane ]
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
quote:And you know what? 95% of the time, I fall right into the stereotypical Mormon mold. This either means that a) I am mostly an unthinking lemming (even though I know that the story of suicidal lemmings is a myth) following first what my parents taught me and later what my culture tells me or b) as a thinking person, I have come to share most of the attitudes and opinions that people generally associate with those of my faith.
I personally like to believe b), but I often wonder if people have assumed a). After all, it is so much easier to do so put me in a neat little cubby-hole.
I hope this post doesn't come off as rude or pigheaded. Please accept my apologies in advance if it does.
I'm wondering what's really wrong with making assumptions about a person if you actually know him. I mean, when I think about it, most of the time I am something of a lemming, but to myself. That is, I've done a lot of thinking about what I believe and why, and now that I've done that thinking, I usually just go along believing what I believe without questioning it until I have a reason to re-examine things. Consequently, someone who knows me well will probably have a good idea how I will react to a situation or idea before I actually react. They can assume that I will behave a certain way. I see that less as sticking me in a cubbyhole than as just knowing who I am.
Now, if someone is making incorrect assumptions about me, that can rankle. But so long as the things that people are assuming about me are true, what's the problem?
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
I think the problem, saxon is that when we know, or think we know what someone else's opinion on a certain subject is, some of us may be more inclined to form arguments against that supposed opinion rather than give it any consideration.
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
I don't think I understand what you're saying. I mean, it seems like someone who's not going to give any consideration to someone else's ideas is going to do it even if he doesn't make assumptions. And conversely, someone who is open to new ideas will still be open to ideas even if he does make assumptions.
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
Saxy, have you ever been in an argument with someone who seems to be in another conversation? I know I've had arguments thrown against a dozen times that refute something I've never said, but that they assume I subscribe to.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote: Oh yeah, I was wondering why that picture of ElJay is titled "horns", at the end of the address.
Hey, I can answer that! But it's kinda a long, irrelevant explination.
Around Halloween Noemon said something about pottery horns on a leather thong you can tie around your head and cover with your hair. I have a pair, that I got at the renn fest, so I put them on, snapped a pic of myself, and posted it, saying "You mean like this?" He said yep, the thread was pretty much dead, and I forgot about it.
On Halloween itself I wore them to work, and had several people come up and tell me what cute kitten ears I was wearing. I started a rather tongue-in-cheek thread complaining about people mistaking Hellspawn for a kitten, forgetting about the very kittenish looking pic I had posted of myself in the same horns. Sara hadn't forgotten, and posted the link. Then a couple of days after THAT, I got a speeding ticket. I mentioned it here, including that the cop was very nice to me, dropping it three miles so it was in the lowest category and advising me to go talk to the county clerk and ask to have it switched to an administrative ticket, which would have the same fine but not go on my insurance.
Sara posted a cheeky comment wondering why he would be so nice to me, linking the picture again. After the second time she linked to it, I started switching the pic out randomly, so the same link pointed to different, weird pictures of me, instead of the cute one.
The jackhammer one was actually the first I put up, but then there were a few others. I was amusing myself, but she never linked to it again, so I was only amusing myself. I was kinda hoping she'd put in the link without following it, and everyone would wonder why she had linked to that weird picture. But she never did, which spoiled all my fun.
Anyway, when I wanted to link to the jackhammer pic somewhere else, I just slid it back in that spot, and it's been there ever since.
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Noemon, thanks for the kind words, and I'm also glad you're back around. Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
quote:Saxy, have you ever been in an argument with someone who seems to be in another conversation? I know I've had arguments thrown against a dozen times that refute something I've never said, but that they assume I subscribe to.
I'm sure that has happened to me, although I can't recall any specific times off the top of my head. But it seems that the problem there isn't so much that an assumption is being made but that 1.) an incorrect assumption is being made (that is, an assumption is being made by a person that doesn't actually know you well enough to make a correct assumption) and 2.) that the person is not listening to what you're saying.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:"I have a friend who says that ever since I (involuntarily) switched usernames, I come off as much more polite."
Really? I had observed the exact opposite, from my perspective. I honestly thought that you felt a bit liberated and free to mix it up a bit again.
Actually, Kat, I have to say I haven't really noticed any "before" and "after" difference in your posting style. Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Thanks for the explanation, ElJay. I was truly mystified.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I noticed a difference in Katie's posting. But I put it down to PMS. And I was right.
WARNING: GUYS, YOU MAY FIND WHAT'S COMING TOO PERSONAL. . . . . . . . . . .
BTW, Katie, it's your fault, you know. I synchronize every time I start thinking about and seeing a friend a lot, and it's your fault. I had a grand total of 1 period since the baby was born, and then this month...
[ February 18, 2005, 05:30 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
TMI! People can know that you have PMS, but how often seems to draw the line for most guys.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Shall I put a guy warning in? Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
*covers face with hands*
Oh my stars. I don't get it every month, but every four months or so there's a carnival of hormones and I get horrible PMS and horrible cramps. It's calmer and less frequent now than it was when I was a teenager, but it still happens. Worst of all, I don't really know what's going on until I'm halfway through or it's over. My mother used to pat me on the head and tell me it just means I'm fertile.
So, ugh, sorry. I hope my friends can forgive me.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I can forgive you.
I don't know if Jeff will be able to, after the way I've been treating him. Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
O_o A carnival of hormones?
That sounds like high school.
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
Females tend to be more sympathetic about this, for some reason.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Perhaps because many of us have been through it ourselves, and if we haven't, we know someone who has?
Guys, avert your eyes again. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I hope you don't get it every time you wear the dress, though. I am firmly convinced now that the time I have spent on it is what caused this, and there is a mystical connection between the dress, you, and me that had to be sealed in blood or something.
[ February 18, 2005, 05:41 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
For some reason the "carnival of hormones" had me picturing carousel horses that...
nevermind.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Talk about a tangent!
For the record...ELJay (and punwit), that jackhammer pic isn't really my wallpaper, I said that because it was funny at the time. My wallpaper is as it has been for a year..pictures of my wonderful niece, who is about to turn 2 years old on March 13th.
I sort of picked up a vibe from ELJay that she was a little sensitive about the subject. Not real sensitive, because if she was then I wouldn't tease her about it, but it got a little bit of a rise out of her. I never meant to go to far with it, and I actually talked to her about it once, just so that she knew I was kidding around (she did... ).
I started posting in response to ELJay because of her connection to dkw and Bob, and wanted her to feel welcome here at Hatrack. Bob and Dana made sure everyone knew who she was, and once I saw a few posts from her and realized she seemed cool I made an effort to make sure she felt welcome.
At least I hope I did.
I really liked Bob when I met him in Boston, and Dana seemed cool, both here at Hatrack and on the phone when we all talked to her from Boston, so I thought her sister would probably be pretty cool too.
Also, I got the impression that she wasn't shy, so I could tease her a bit, and when I did she joked right back.
Anti-cool, when you post as MPH I look forward to your responses, most of the time, I don't always agree with you, and you do seem to toe a fairly conservative line most of the time, but you usually don't mind explaining how you came to those conclusions as long as the person asking really cares and isn't trying to set you up[ for a fall.
You and Bev should feel very welcome here, more so than most. I thought that Hatrack responds pretty well to you, most of the time, and has from the beginning. I am not trying to tell you that you shouldn't feel something, or tell you what you should feel, not really, just expressing (from an outside view) how I see people responding to you two being here.
I remember being in high school and not even buying a school yearbook because I didn't think anyone would want to sign it. I was wrong....I had people who I didn't even think knew who I was coming over and sharing stories from years ago that I had forgotten. I had popular people come up to me and say that they had always admired me because I had friends from all different social groups, and they wish they had been more like me.
We ALL have the same hangups, just about different things, and some people move on from there while others never do....and THAT is the difference, really. Not in our experiences, but in what we allow them to do to us, and what we learn from them.
Even Prom Queens are worried about popularity sometimes....in some ways more than other people, because so much of who they are is caught up in it.
Kwea
[ February 19, 2005, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
quote:Anti-cool, when you post as MPH I look forward to your responses, most of the time, I don;t always agree with you, and you do seem to toe a fairly conservitive line most of the time, but you usually don't mind explaining how you came to those conclusions as long as the person asking really cares and isn't trying to set you up for a fall.
Aww, shucks.
If I were to articulate how I hoped that people respond to me online, your description would be pretty close to my ideal.
Except for the not always agreeing with me.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Well, if you weren't such a knee jerk conservative...but what do you expect, you are a Mormon after all...
[ February 19, 2005, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Long live Porter!
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
If I didn't already have too many names, I would have registered "Anti-coolant" which I know doesn't make a lot of sense. See, inhibitions are good for something.
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