AJ just IMed me to say that Ciara's water just broke and they expect puppies soon.
Someone will tell information as it comes in.
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
WOW WOW!!!
Dogs sure don't gestate for long... Unless, this is a different dog and I am stupid.
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
Awww!!!
PUPPIES!!!
*covets*
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Cool!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*boils water*
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
The gestation period is 63 days, and it can go five days longer or shorter, she's at 58 right now.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
*cuts the good sheets into strips*
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
*heats up the grill...*
I wouldn't cook the little puppies. Not really.
Posted by Stan the man (Member # 6249) on :
Cat's are better tasting. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
At least not until they're fattened up some.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
The other, other white meat.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
PUPPIES!
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
I dreamed we got a puppy the other night. I mean, talk about your weird dreams. I've had dreams that I was gay that didn't confuse me that much.
Posted by whiskysunrise (Member # 6819) on :
Cool, puppies!
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Now if only science could create a puppy that didn't grow up.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
*Refrains from all but a reference to refraining about making a joke about it being AJ having the Puppies*
That's great AJ. ((((AJ))))
Hobbes Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
Here's hoping for a safe and easy delivery.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Gay puppies?
You're weird.
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
Pictures. I want pictures. Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Puppies!!!
Gay puppies? Woa...
Yay for AJ and puppies!! Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Well, I wish I had news, but I don't. We had a rush of discharge at 8:30pm. I was told that I should wait approximately 6 hours and at that point call the emergency vet if nothing had happened.
She's had maybe three contractions and then it's basically all stopped. I just called the emergency vet. They asked if she was in distress. I said no, she isn't, she's basically nodding off and sleeping. The vet said that she's probably just still in the early stages of labor and if she isn't in distress not to bring her in. Basically to trust her and Nature on the subject. She's snoozing so I'll just sit here and wait for her.
AJ
[ February 18, 2005, 02:03 AM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
So you feel like a grandma waiting for the grandbaby to finally be delivered?
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
quote: Now if only science could create a puppy that didn't grow up.
Amen, beverly! Although the golden retriever on Smallville yesterday was pretty dang cute...
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
No puppies yet. Calling my vet shortly. We both slept for close to 5 hours. She's totally fine, happy, tail wagging etc. If I hadn't seen the discharge, and was going off of her alone I wouldn't be worried right now. The contractions basically completely stopped, she's only had maybe three and none of them were terribbly strong. I can still feel puppy movement inside.
AJ
[ February 18, 2005, 08:00 AM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Aw, puppies!!! Good luck, AJ! Posted by fiazko (Member # 5812) on :
Yay for you and Ciara, AJ. If you've never watched an animal deliver, it's grody and fascinating all at the same time. I'm definitely no expert, but Mother Nature did just fine with the kittens I witnessed. I hope everything goes just as smoothly for you guys.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Talked to the vet, no cause for concern yet. He said stay home and keep an eye on her for today, and he predicts that she will have them tomorrow right before closing. So we are on the slow road. I talked to a couple of other corgi breeders and they said sometimes things go fast and sometimes they go slow but basically to trust her.
AJ
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Good luck. (And give Ciara a scratch behind the ears from Bob, Smokey, & me.)
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Fiazko I have seen a friend's dog give birth before. I actually caught two of the puppies. But, this is slightly different because Ciara's never had a litter before. After the first litter you can generally predict their behavior, but we don't know with her yet what her behavior is!
AJ
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Yay! Brave, brave Ciara.
Skilled and loving AJ.
What a team!
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Hooray for puppies! Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
Heh, this kinda sounds like Thomas's birth. Some water comes out, then a whole bunch of waiting. Good luck puppies!!!
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
Best wishes to Ciara and the new puppies. *gets bubble gum cigars ready to hand out*
Posted by whiskysunrise (Member # 6819) on :
Keep us posted. Hope all goes well.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Derrell, what, are you cheap or something? Hand out Seegars. That's what my dad gave out when I had a baby. Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
No more news yet, A.J.?????
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
What are Seegars? Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
How about some milk chocolate cigars from Godiva?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Seegars are the same thing, but from See's Candies. Much better.
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
OK. *prepares to hand out Seegars*
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Congrats in advance, AJ! Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
We had to c-section her. She wasn't going into labor after 3 shots of pitocin. After the operation it became clear why. She had ELEVEN PUPPIES in there. Basically the uterus muscles were so distended they were like rubber bands that had lost their stretch. They couldn't contract enough to create contractions.
Unfortunately we lost one boy, well he didn't have a heartbeat to begin with. But considering the complications that wasn't too bad. So we have 3 red boys, 2 red girls and 5 brindle girls!
Having to supplement with formula because her milk is coming in slower due to the c-section. Also more of a problem of acceptance/rejection, though she seems to be doing good so far.
AJ
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Congrats!
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
congrats, AJ!
11? OUCH! Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
ELEVEN?! No wonder she was huge!
Poor Ciara! Glad she's doing ok, and that most of the puppies are as well.
Sad about the one.
But wow, you are gonna have your hands full! One recovering mom and TEN puppies.
Good LUCK!
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Wow - congratulations to both you and Ciara!
And commiserations for the little guy
Wow o wow - 10 puppies!
Can I have a brindle girl? Or, if puppies don't like travelling to Australia, can I see photos?
(I have a feeling the latter is more practicable )
[ February 18, 2005, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: imogen ]
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
That's awesome, Aj. I'm so glad that Ciara is ok, and all the puppies are going good. I can't wait to see pictures! We had a slightly difficult foaling on sunday while my manager was gone, and I was a nervous wreck. But everything turned out ok.
Edit: Let me know when it would be ok for Ken and I to come see them.
Ni!
[ February 18, 2005, 08:30 PM: Message edited by: kwsni ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
11!!!
Ouch.
And poor Ciara, having to have Pitocin... That stuff hurts like all git out.
But I'm glad she's doing okay now.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
I'm glad I'm not a doggie. I think the chances of me conceiving 11 at one time are pretty slim.
Sounded like a rough experience for poor Mama! And the one that was lost. I bet it was pretty crowded in there.
[ February 18, 2005, 08:53 PM: Message edited by: beverly ]
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Yay!
Boy - you're going to have your hands full for awhile!
So is Jake a super-stud, or what?
FG
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
Pictures! We want pictures! Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Wow, good job ciara! AJ, you're such a good doggy mommy, And it's great you stayed home today with her. Take a rest from hatrack to sit and stare at the babies! 11 seems like a lot for a dog that size (yeah I know they're not that little, but 30 pounds, 11 puppies)
go do this or Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Smallest pup is 4 ounces which is really tiny, but so far she's been vigorous. Ciara has been letting them nurse but hasn't truly accepted them yet. I'm inflating the airmattress next to the whelping box tonight.
kwisni, give me a couple of weeks and then it will probably be ok. Right now I'm pretty involved with making sure they all eat properly.
AJ
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
Wow! That's almost as many as my uncle's boycan who had thirteen puppies, two of which died. The parallels we drew between Starr and 101 Dalmations were a fun exercise. Posted by Avadaru (Member # 3026) on :
Geez....eleven pups...Molly only had 5 and I'm still paying off vet bills over a year later. I honestly don't know what I would have done, had she whelped eleven puppies. Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
That is tough, making sure they all get enough nourishment at this point.
Good Luck!
Kwea
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Oh my goodness! Congratulations! That is a LOT of puppies!! Are you going to keep them all? Have you given them names yet? Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Congrats, AJ (and Ciara, of course)! Good luck--that's a lot of puppies.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Let's just say I have to sell at least two pups in order to pay for the vet bill. From that perspective I'm glad there are ten. We made it through the night and they are still all alive and kicking. If we can make it through the first 48 hours things get easier.
AJ
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
*hugs*
I'd buy one if you were closer.
No, wait - I wouldn't, because I'm just not home enough now to be a good dog owner. Oh well, maybe when my life settles down.
But congratulations, and here's hoping you pass that 48 hour hurdle!
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Congratulations! Pictures!
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
I'd buy one, but I already have a dog, and my parents would have a fit.
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
I'll probly come visit sometime in late march or early april, just cause that's when I have some time off.
I hope the puppies continue to do well.
Ni!
Posted by whiskysunrise (Member # 6819) on :
Wow 11 puppies. Hope the continue to do well and improve.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Just making sure they're still doing well.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Cindy, my handler, and Lazarus' real owner came here today to help me out. I really appreciated it. SHe was very good about identifying which puppies need the most supplementing and why. Now I know what to look for and know better what to do. Syringe feeding puppies is an artform that I am still learning. We are over 24 hours now and they are all still alive.
AJ
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I guess I can forgive you for staying home for puppies. Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Wonderful news! Sorry about the little guy.
space opera
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Well we are at 3 days and they are still all with us. Only two haven't put on weight. I need to be more aggressive with my supplementing, but I pretty much collapsed from exhaustion twice which is why they didn't get as much as they should have. Steve took over but didn't get quite as much down them.
Ciara accepted the puppies last night and is now licking them properly which is making my job a whole lot easier. I don't have to pee them every time I feed them. Still don't have pictures up. I'll probably have Steve take some more digicam shots today.
AJ
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Oh, sweetie. What a battle!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Yeay! Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
Wow, AJ! That's a lot of puppies. Congratulations on getting all ten of them this far. I'm impressed at your dedication.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Sounds like you turned a corner. You're a good puppy tender. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
*dances* The smallest one is at 6 oz. They are now up to the size they should have been when they were born. And they should have been born about today if there hadn't been 11!
AJ
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Yay for AJ! Yay for puppies! Yay for Ciara!
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Oh, congratulations!
Give all the little one pats on the head from us!
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
Wow!!! Congratulations, Banna!!! Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
Hmm...my husband is going to be in Chi-town this weekend for CoffeeFest. I don't suppose he could stop by and see the pups real quick? I'd totally understand if you guys are still too frazzled for company, but since I can't be there myself, maybe I could settle for puppy-cuddles by proxy Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I put it into perspective last night, a stick of butter is four ounces. Yay that they're all up in the 6 range and ciara has accepted them now.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
(((((((AJ)))))))
Hobbes Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
I can't imagine trying to syringe-feed 11 puppies. I thought feeding 3 kittens was hard.
Congrats to Ciara and especially to you for working so hard to help these little puppies. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
PICTURES!!!! (they aren't great, probably more later as they grow, this is all I've got time for now.)
Stray he's welcome. Email me at bannaoj@yahoo.com if you are serious. However we don't live *in* Chicago proper. It is a little more effort to get out here. We are about 30 minutes (no traffic) to the northwest in Rolling Meadows. With traffic, it can be over an hour. I'd google it and see if it is feasible. We are fairly close to where I-90 and I-290 intersect.
AJ
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
So cute! I'm glad they're doing well.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
AJ -- those are ADORABLE. Thanks for sharing pictures.
I wish I really could be serious about getting one... *heart goes out to AJ, Ciara, and puppies*
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
they're adorable! Are red cardigans about the same color as red pembrokes? I'm about to go google this, just curious since I know more about the pembs.
Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
So cute!!! Thanks for posting the pictures.
I don't know where in Chicago the convention is going to be; we'll find that out tonight and then I'll email you if the visit will be feasible.
*squees over cuteness some more*
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
oh, sooooo cute!! Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I want a puppy now .
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
Posted by Vána (Member # 6593) on :
They're so little! I mean, I knew they would be, but...they're so little!
Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
Holy cow!
(((((AJ)))))
I need to send you some pictures of Tanner with the Care-Bear.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
They are so cute! I love the way Jake is still totally focused on his ball. Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
*grin* How wonderful!
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I'm back at work today. The smallest two are holding their own. I'll give them a couple of formula feedings when I go home tonight, for a little bit extra, but they are doing ok. They didn't lose any weight when they had their dewclaws removed yesterday which was very positive.
AJ
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
AJ, how are they holding up now?
How are you? Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
Those pics are pretty stinking cute, AJ.
Posted by MichelleEly (Member # 6737) on :
The use of the word "Stinkin'" shows that Ralphie knows puppies!
They are some really cute babies! Michelle
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Best wishes to Ciara and the new puppies. *gets bubble gum cigars ready to hand out*
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