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Posted by IdemosthenesI (Member # 862) on :
 
Glad to see it go, but man! I was really proud of my last post there, and it had only been up for like ten minutes! [Big Grin] Oh well. The greater good, I suppose.
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
That deleting posts stuff is a bastage, innit. Ryuko sent a post to me that she found in her cache, much to my eternal gratitude.

Anyway, my post in the recently deleted thread stated:

"Holy Baptism by Fire, Batman! That said: Welcome, Michelle. [Smile] "

I stand by that.

[ February 22, 2005, 10:38 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Yes, that was a very good post, ldl.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Yes, it was. Again, well said IdI.
 
Posted by MichelleEly (Member # 6737) on :
 
I also was pretty fond of my unseen last post! Ah, well.

Anyhow, I don't hate anyone based on their religion. I am most likely to just pepper them with questions due to severe nosiness.

I worked with a Witness and I tortured her with all the questions and requests for Watchtowers. I also would make her sing me with song that listed all the books of the Bible! LOL!

Recently I expanded all my nosiness to the OSC folder and a discussion of the Church of LDS.

My point is that I was rather hoping for a chance here rather than being forced into a box that doesn't fit me. I know my curiousity and love of discussion can look a whole lot like bad manners under certain lights.
Michelle
 
Posted by MichelleEly (Member # 6737) on :
 
Thanks Ralphie!

I actually joined several months ago but just have not been around.

I really should be writing. Er, not posts, this short story I'm working on. The thing with me is that the more things I'm supposed to be doing, the more I hang out on message boards.
Michelle
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
Oh, yeah. July 2004. Duh.

I've been in and out. That's my excuse.
 
Posted by MichelleEly (Member # 6737) on :
 
No, it's okay, I consider myself new too and I was around a couple weeks in July and then JUST returned in the last couple weeks.
Michelle
 
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
 
Well.

Twice in the last two days I chose not to post in a thread because I figured it would be deleted. I think I'm getting good at this.

/looking for the silver lining.

--j_k
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
Hey Michelle -- you said in the no-longer-existant thread that the second part of your nick was for Ely, MN. Do you live there? I'm in Minneapolis...

Anyway, welcome (back) to Hatrack. [Smile]
 
Posted by MichelleEly (Member # 6737) on :
 
\\Hey Michelle -- you said in the no-longer-existant thread that the second part of your nick was for Ely, MN. Do you live there? I'm in Minneapolis...

Anyway, welcome (back) to Hatrack. //

I don't live there <--- one of the saddest sentences I could type. My grandmother lives there, it's her hometown, and she raised me. I miss her like anything and miss being there. It's in my heart.

As obsessive as it seems, I cannot even look at a map on MN without tearing up a little. My house is on the market, but this move has been one delay after another for 2 years. I pray I will be a resident by summer!

I know most people don't understand why anyone would want to move from a cold state - MI - to a colder one!
Michelle

[ February 22, 2005, 11:06 PM: Message edited by: MichelleEly ]
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
[Smile]

I went to Oklahoma for college, and couldn't wait to come back. Good luck in your move. And maybe we can get together when you're back in state, I love meeting Hatrackers in real life. (Plus we're in the same general demographic... I'm 31 and female.) [Wink]
 
Posted by Paul Goldner (Member # 1910) on :
 
I really hate it when threads get deleted :/

While I understand why either the mods or Jay may have wished to delete that thread, deleting an entire thread also deletes words that other people have written. It strikes me as... wishful thinking... every time someone deletes a thread. "If I delete it, all that bad karma will dissapear." No, it doesn't. People remember what has been written, and no opportunity is created for people to try to understand whats happened. Michelle seemed honestly interested in finding out why dagonee thought what she said was wrong. That discussion will likely never happen now. The opportunity for understanding is lost, whenever a thread is deleted... and I think, in that thread, there were more people looking to understand then there were people name calling.

I'm really hoping that Jay, and not the mods, deleted that thread.
 
Posted by MichelleEly (Member # 6737) on :
 
Sure!

My matron of honor at my wedding was someone I met on a Sheltie discussion board. I made her fly from Georgia to Two Harbors.My wedding was on the banks of Lake Superior and the water just looks so blue in the photos.
Michelle

[ February 22, 2005, 11:12 PM: Message edited by: MichelleEly ]
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
quote:
I really hate it when threads get deleted :/

While I understand why either the mods or Jay may have wished to delete that thread, deleting an entire thread also deletes words that other people have written. It strikes me as... wishful thinking... every time someone deletes a thread. "If I delete it, all that bad karma will dissapear." No, it doesn't. People remember what has been written, and no opportunity is created for people to try to understand whats happened.

Yup.
 
Posted by MichelleEly (Member # 6737) on :
 
Hey, I made a newbie mistake. I don't even just mean a Newbie to Hatrack mistake - but an internet newbie mistake. I didn't learn more about the board temperament on these topics. It wasn't until I was way into the thread that I realized, from other comments, that this was something that Dagonee, and others, had been through before. I failed to know the climate of the board.

I don't like thread deletions because I never got to clear up things with the guy who told me I was not worth his time. That(look at the great writing about to occur) really sucks!

I do understand why it was deleted though
Michelle

[ February 22, 2005, 11:36 PM: Message edited by: MichelleEly ]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
*whine* If you're going to delete threads, please wait until I have a chance to read the darn things, wouldja?

Now all I'm left with is multiple threads referring to the thread of which all I saw was the title.

How rude.
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
[Smile] At least you recognize it without someone pointing it out to you.

rivka, that's what you get for leaving your computer. [Razz]
 
Posted by MichelleEly (Member # 6737) on :
 
Rivka -
Basically, as a former Catholic, I stated my issues with the church and was told I was really pretty ignorant on the topic. There was some back and forth where I tried to make it clear that I would love to have a serious discussion on the matter, and that there were also things I loved about the church. I think some of the people had been through the wringer with anti-Catholic sentiment and thought I was just plain being a negative witch.
Michelle
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
I'd be amazed that took two pages . . . but I've been around here a while. [Wink]

Welcome (back) to Hatrack, Michelle, btw! [Smile]
 
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
 
I wish I could say more, but the words aren't coming to my mind. All I can say, without sounding as critical as my problem with the thread, is I am glad its gone.
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Welcome! I am another MN resident and would love to meet you if you can make it here...

Sounds like there was a lot of angst on the papalsexuality thread while I was gone. Shame I wasn't around to see it. [Dont Know]
 
Posted by MichelleEly (Member # 6737) on :
 
Where in MN (in general)?
Michelle
 
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
 
ElJay -- where and when did you go to school in Oklahoma? I went to high school there, so most of my friends entered OU or OSU in '92.
 
Posted by prolixshore (Member # 4496) on :
 
I don't understand how you guys can stand the cold weather up there. But then again, I'm a southern boy, born and raised. The few years I spent in PA were enough to turn me off of cold weather for the rest of my life. BRRRRRRRRRR!

--ApostleRadio
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
AntiCool, I went to TU, '92 - '96. Majored in business management. [Smile]

I made some friends from OSU, but mostly stuck in Tulsa.
 
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
 
In my opinion the only really horrible thing said in the pope thread was when The Pixiest said jokingly "was that before or after the Pope left his NAMBLA meeting?" or words to that effect.

I thought that was in incredibly bad taste, and was going to post that but didn't get a chance.

I don't think Michelle Ely did anything wrong, and I'd like to welcome her to the forum. [Wave]

That said, I don't blame Dag or Jim-me for getting upset. We all have our hot-button issues and POVs. [Frown]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I thought the Pixiest was basically spoiling for a fight, myself, and people took the bait.
 
Posted by Jay (Member # 5786) on :
 
I didn’t delete the thread. Why did it get axed?
 
Posted by Jay (Member # 5786) on :
 
Here's the link again:
Pope Calls Gay Marriage Part of 'Ideology of Evil'
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
Why thank you Jay! Now we can start throwing insults around all over again. [Wall Bash]
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I take it you didn't delete it then.

Reposting it isn't the brightest thing you have done here, Jay....if the mods don't want it here, and have delelted it, then you should have just left it alone.
 
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
 
Oh man...I kind of liked my last post there too.

Oh well... I guess it was not meant for here.

It did get pretty raw...
 
Posted by Jay (Member # 5786) on :
 
Well, I disagree with the mods if they think that news story shouldn’t be posted. How is it not a news worthy topic for us to discuss? I’m a bit upset about them deleting it and waiting for a post about why they did delete it. If they don’t want that kind of thing posted it needs to be in the “rules” somewhere. Plus if they didn’t want it reposted they should have sent me an email explaining their position. Almost seems like someone disagreed with the story and got a bur somewhere it didn’t belong and abused their mod power.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
I doubt the story itself was cause for deletion. I'm betting the NAMBLA reference was the main reason.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I don;t think they care about the article, but they do have a right to delete anything deemed offensive.

It is their site, bought and paid for, and the terms and conditions of use are clearly posted.
 
Posted by Paul Goldner (Member # 1910) on :
 
I'm sorry, I simply can't agree with the decision of the mods to delete that thread. The worst of the posts had been over for 50 posts, and there was an OBVIOUS attempt by one of the major players to develop a dialogue. There were legitimate posts in that thread... more then there were posts that were worthy of deletion. I've never liked the idea of the mods deleting threads, and even more so when they make such a bad decision as deleting a thread where one of the parties that helped get the real nastiness going is looking for a real dialogue.
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Michelle- St. Paul during the school year, Brooklyn Park in the summer.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Ditto what Paul said.
 
Posted by MichelleEly (Member # 6737) on :
 
Um, I'll just be skipping that thread this time. [Wink]
Michelle
 


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