Dobies officially suck and are the height of lame.
Even ice cream, when overconsumed, becomes a force for evil. Dobies were never ice cream. There have been, maybe, five people in the history of Hatrack that could work a successful dobie. They have not been making dobies for a long time.
You are not one of them. For the love of all that is good and holy in the universe, please. freaking. stop.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
I think that most things that are good and holy in the universe don't care about Hatrack dobies.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
Yes, your opinion is very important.
Stop making dobies.
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
When dobies are outlawed, only outlaws will have dobies.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
That's a very interesting point of view.
Stop making dobies.
Posted by Intelligence3 (Member # 6944) on :
I think the word you're looking for is officious.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
quote:Yes, your opinion is very important.
Stop making dobies.
Posted by Ramdac99 (Member # 7264) on :
what the heck are dobies? (like doo-bees?)
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
Is that your new signature, Ralphie? You do realize that the response to this will probably be a whole boatload of new Dobies, right? (perhaps by mentioning this here it won't happen)
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
Yes, it's very important that all voices be heard.
Stop making dobies.
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
*sings* do be do be do
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
I'm with Ralphie on this one.
Ralphie said it.
I heard it.
I agreed with it.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Is that your new signature, Ralphie? [Wink] You do realize that the response to this will probably be a whole boatload of new Dobies, right? (perhaps by mentioning this here it won't happen)
Yes. Yes it will. And no, mentioning it here won't stop it.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
Stop making dobies, start making babies: It's a lot more fun.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
quote:There have been, maybe, five people in the history of Hatrack that could work a successful dobie. They have not been making dobies for a long time.
Not true. I still make one every once in a while.
But I agree with you in general.
Storm Saxon in particular should not make a dobie ever again.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
Hey Ralphie, I know this has been asked before, but what is the chance of you dumping what's-his-name and joining me for some sweet, oh so sweet love making?
I'd be willing to pay.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote: Is that your new signature, Ralphie? You do realize that the response to this will probably be a whole boatload of new Dobies, right? (perhaps by mentioning this here it won't happen)
I hope so, Tick.
I've been trying to wait this stupid dobie thing out. There have been times in the past when a thread was particularly dobie-able, and a rash of dobies will come through in the tide, and then disappear. But this is thread after thread after thread.
They've just become lame. One post wonders, clogging up the front page and making it nearly impossible to tell solid threads - where people have put time and effort and thought into their words - from stupid crap. Oh, I know. If I lived here like I once did I probably would be able to tell it all apart. But I don't, and so I'm at the mercy of limited time.
If I was a newbie, however, upon seeing all the dobies I would give this board all of two seconds before I bolted.
edit:
quote:Not true. I still make one every once in a while.
It's true - you were one of the five. Dobie (the originator). Bob_Scopatz can throw a dobie out. Papa Moose can turn a dobie. And there's assuredly one more... who would absolutely have to be Zalmoxis. (Love you, baby.) And Strider gets an honorable mention.
quote:I think the word you're looking for is officious.
I3 - I know you're particularly sensitive to people being bossy, but c'mon man. You're smart, intuitive and have a good sense of humor. Even you have to admit this has gotten out of hand.
[ February 24, 2005, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Agreed.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Here's a crazy thought . . . why do people reply to dobies that are not funny?
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
That's not as crazy as you led me to believe, Ick.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Because in-group, non-funny humor is a central component in certain types of communities, especially when there's been conflict that people are trying to cover over instead of deal with.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Add me to the list...
While dobies can be funny, it's gone too far this time. Please invest your creative energy elsewhere. Pretty please?
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
Oh and Ralphie, I'm going to take your silence on the love making to be a yes.
Where do you live again?
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote:Here's a crazy thought . . . why do people reply to dobies that are not funny?
Because, while it may not be funny, it can be mildly witty and people want to be a part of something witty.
But mildly witty doesn't justify the rampage. And once it gets on a role, I think people start to participate simply because it seems like the 'thing' of the moment. Forum version of black jelly bracelets in high school.
edit: Oh, and what Squick said.
[ February 23, 2005, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote: Oh and Ralphie, I'm going to take your silence on the love making to be a yes.
If we run off together, we're going to live in Ireland. I won't budge on this one.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
Oh damn! So you mean I have to have hot sex with you and I have to stay right where I am for it!?
That just sucks.
Posted by urbanX (Member # 1450) on :
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
quote: Storm Saxon in particular should not make a dobie ever again.
After all I do for you, Mr. Icarus!
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote:Oh damn! So you mean I have to have hot sex with you and I have to stay right where I am for it!?
Yeah, but don't throw this topic off its course, man!
I'm staging a Down With Dobies protest, here, and I'm mean bidnazz.
[ February 23, 2005, 03:26 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
Oh man. I'm gonna get an ass-kicking for this one, but...
quote: Yeah, but don't throw this topic off it's course, man!
Its.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
The Rule of Dobie #1: Wait 10 minutes.
If your Dobie is still funny, see Rule #2: Only One Dobie.
The humor of a Dobie is inversely proportional to the number of Dobies.
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
Ralphie:
You've forgotten me already?
And here I was thinking that our love was forever.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote:Its.
In the spirit of self-policing, I have editted my post for you, Ryuko.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
quote:. . . especially when there's been conflict that people are trying to cover over instead of deal with.
Hmm. That's interesting. You're undoubtedly onto something, but I find it interesting because I cringe most when the really serious or painful threads are dobied. I know the dobie-starter is not intending to mock the hurt that went on in the thread--perhaps the intent is even to alleviate it--but it tends to set off my discomfort alarm.
Except for "Good Cod, OSC." That was just too funny.
-o-
And, since you mentioned Papa Moose, I must say I still smile every time I think of "Should we go to war with a rack?"
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
Zal - I forgot thee only in a moment of passion for my cause. Forgive me.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
I move we all adopt The Tick's guidelines.
[ February 23, 2005, 03:31 PM: Message edited by: Icarus ]
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
quote: Zal - I forgot thee only in a moment of passion for my cause. Forgive me.
Oh, you're just a tease.
Typical.
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
As you wish.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Dobie : the official cleaning product of the Hatrack River Forum.
[ February 23, 2005, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: Primal Curve ]
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote:I move we all adopt The Tick's guidelines.
I think they're solid principles. Sadly, nothing can be enforced. This isn't a call for rules, this is a call for common comedic sense.
[ February 23, 2005, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
I know. But maybe if lots of people endorse them, they will stick.
And yes, of course I mean Tick's. Whose did you think I meant? Posted by Intelligence3 (Member # 6944) on :
I agree with the principle, but not necessarily the sentiment. You'll note that I could have dobied to accomplish the same goal.
And I wouldn't choose the word "bossy." That is clearly not a gender-neutral term and bears underlying connotations wiith which I strongly disagree. I prefer officious.
[ February 23, 2005, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: Intelligence3 ]
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
And, yet, if my officious manner is the end to this particular rash of dobies, I'll have felt it was worth while.
Are you this sensitive in real life? Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
For the record I fully endorse Ralphie's campaign.
But also add that in the grand scheme of things I don't care one whit if people stop making dobies.
Why?
Because I know that one day they will be brought before whatever God(s) or memes they worship (or don't worship) and he/she/they/it/not-it will not ask them if they've been a good person or if they've followed all the commandments/rules/injunctions/whims etc.
No. He/she/they/it/not-it will simply say:
MAKE ME LAUGH.
And they will fail. And then experience some sort of incredibly painful (or perhaps just pianfully embarrassing) cosmic punishment.
EDIT: painfully -- or maybe pianfully. I suppose it all depends. Perhaps someone out there worships Pian.
[ February 23, 2005, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: Zalmoxis ]
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
So, really, it's a kindness before they go to the great gig in the sky to smack them down now.
[ February 23, 2005, 03:56 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
All I have to add is:
Think of the kittens!
Otherwise: Ralphie said it I believe it That settles it.
AJ
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
quote:Think of the kittens!
Uh, what kind of dobies have you guys been making?
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Slightly witty? We must have different ideas of what "wit" means.
Dobies are down on the scale of humour with "your mamma" jokes. Once one person starts, everyone else seems to follow. Maybe you smirked despite yourself the first time you heard it, but after that all future tellings caused you to envy the deaf.
As to why people post on dobies that aren't funny, I think it's the same reason people post "lol" or "rofl" all the time. It has nothing to do with actual laughter, it's more like acknowledging that the other person has attempted to be funny. Or witty, if you will. "Oh look. You've posted something that was probably intended to make me laugh. Well, it didn't, not even on the inside, but I recognize that you were trying to be funny. Sadly it's too lame for me to muster an actual reply so here's an lol!!11!1 for you. I hope it keeps you warm at night you sad, sad, unfunny person."
And so on and so forth.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Dobies are more humorous than practically all puns (in other words, barely humorous at all), and those are encouraged on this board.
Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
Dose this mean I can't make a "How would you react if your child came out as feyd" dobie?
*sniff*
But in all seriousness, I agree with the stong non-dobie stance. Looking over the first two pages is just depressing really; something about Hatrack's version of empty calories. Don't we have a thread we could quarentine these things in?
Feyd Baron, DoC
PS: The DoC does NOT approve of dobies. Any DoC member caught supporting or creating said threads will be flayed. Twice. Oh and hi Ralphie, remember me?
EDIT: Because with me, every post is guarenteed to have at least one typo.
[ February 23, 2005, 04:13 PM: Message edited by: Architraz Warden ]
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Well, a lot of puns can be contained in a single thread, whereas posters of Dobies tend to create a new thread per pun.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
There are now two dobies of this thread. Both of them clearly proving my point, as neither are remotely funny.
The problem is, you can have 50% of the board feel that the onslaught of dobies are bringing the overall quality down, but they have absolutely no power to prevent the other 50% from making them. Heck, it could be 90%/10%, and those 10% still have the ability to muck the place up with a page full of one-post threads.
It feels like the 'rash of dobies' has been since I started participating again. Shouldn't it have blown over by now?
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
quote:Well, a lot of puns can be contained in a single thread, whereas posters of Dobies tend to create a new thread per pun.
That is an exellent point. For the most part, puns are easily avoidable. Dobies ugly up the entire board.
[ February 23, 2005, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
We could try this again....
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"Dobies are more humorous than practically all puns (in other words, barely humorous at all), and those are encouraged on this board."
Luckily, most puns are confined to a thread or two. Whereas Dobies, by definition, create a new thread of spam.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
Which was a brilliant idea, Moose.
I guess you just don't get the exposure you would if you made a brand-new thread, and to be honest I've always thought of the non-funny dobies as attention whoring.
Feyd - Why on earth did you ask if I remembered you, you lug?
[ February 23, 2005, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
Yes Moose, that's definately the one I was thinking of. My dobie(s) are isolate in there, thank God.
And Ralphie, is "Because it's been a rough week and I needed an ego boost" a valid answer?
Feyd Baron, DoC
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
quote:There are now two dobies of this thread.
If it makes you feel better, I stopped myself from doing "Okay, it's Orificial" for fear of getting your boot up my ass.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
Brings a tear of joy to my eye, Frisco.
While I know my manner has been abrasive, I'm willing to be considered rude, having thrown my weight around, unnecesarily aggressive or just a bad bad meanie if people pause and reconsider before spamming the heck out of the board.
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
Oh, and my other comments on this thread:
I agree with the first post, since I was later listed as one of the five. *smile*
I agree with Squick's reasoning.
I'd add to Tick's guidelines that if a Dobie thread has any hope of being humorous, it has to be posted within a certain timeframe of the original thread, though I'm not sure what that timeframe might be. I've seen threads get bumped after a month, and then Dobied -- impossible to be funny at that point. If a thread isn't on the first page, it's too late. A second Dobie is invariably unfunny, as I believe there's a mathematical limitation that x<y => H(Dx)>H(Dy).
Icky, thanks for remembering that one. I think I'm proudest of that one and "Hatrack Infinity."
Architraz, I did in fact consider the "Feyd" Dobie, but it was just too late (a la Tick's and my guidelines).
The dynamics of Dobies and those of landmarks have some interesting similarities.
--Pop
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
quote:While I know my manner has been abrasive, I'm willing to be considered rude, having thrown my weight around, unnecesarily aggressive or just a bad bad meanie if people pause and reconsider before spamming the heck out of the board.
I am willing to do this for other issues. I don't mind dobies - they are either funny and they register, or they are not funny and are therefore noise. Something only registers if it is eloquent, funny, or outstanding in some other way, and dobies never reach that bar. I just don't see them.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
I think the more sensitive an issue potentially is, the more careful I become.
Dobies are in the shallow end of the pool. Anyone who has an emotional attachment to them needs to get out more.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
Now it's three dobies for this thread.
Good thing people are such anarchists, or we might lose out on that precious, precious spam.
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
Hmmm, I guess I need to stay in more...
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
Well, I'm done waging this battle. Hopefully two pages of anti-dobie sentiment will help the board out. There's really no reason to keep harping on the subject, as people ultimately do whatever they want to do.
After about a day when people with an anarchist nature have lost interest I hope that the pendulum will sing away from half the front page being filled with dobies to only one or two here and there. If not, I'll just go back into hibernation mode, and nothing really is lost.
At least I know I'm not the only one who hates 'em.
[ February 23, 2005, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
The board often emmulates IRL gatherings. I would equate the present spate of dobies to hysterical laughter that is self-reinforcing. The original is mildly funny but then the laughter triggers more laughter and eventually no one is even laughing about the original impetus.
Edit for grammar. Thanks to LadyJane and apologies for editing her quote.
[ February 23, 2005, 05:03 PM: Message edited by: punwit ]
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
quote:the laughter triggered more laughter and eventually no one is even laughing about the original impetus
Oh, I love that.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
I'd put excessive bad dobieing low on the list of things that could be improved at Hatrack.
Way at the top would be broad, sweeping classifications and generalizations of people with no backup.
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
It's certainly less spiteful and denigrating.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
One of the things I love about Hatrack is that, while most of us think in terms of broad, sweeping generalizations simply out of lack of familiarity, Hatrack as a forum helps us redefine our concepts through conversation. While sometimes those conversations are heated because we form emotional attachments to our opinions, often times it's through those debates we realize - at the time or in retrospect - where we could have been more yielding, and where we were flat-out wrong. It also helps us solidify what we really believe, and test the metal of our own dogma.
I like to think I've come away with a far broader look at most things outside my sphere than I did coming in. But I don't get offended at broad, sweeping generalizations when they are directed at me. I always hope that, with a soft touch in those situations, I can guide others with their definitions like I've been guided.
I just wish there wasn't so much spam so I could find those conversations easier.
[ February 23, 2005, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
Can soemone give me an example of a doby? is it something from harry potter? and..... in the mean time..... DOWN WITH THE [INSERT EXASPERATION HERE]!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
Look at the three topics on the top of the page. They give examples of dobies. Normally a link is included.
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
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Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
Ralphie, that pretty much sums up how I feel about Hatrack. My take on many issues is different now because of Hatrack.
As for the broad, sweeping generalizations, you're a broad. Why aren't you sweeping?
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Pixiest:
Though I guess in an odd way that could be considered dobiesque in nature.
I've been a sometime offender with the dobies. But I have to say there was a considerable cessation of them for several months, it seemed. For a while my only real reason to post dobies was to annoy pat. Posted by Trodgor the Burly-nater (Member # 6922) on :
I like dobies.
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Um, that wasn't me. Posted by Dobbie (Member # 3881) on :
quote:There have been, maybe, five people in the history of Hatrack that could work a successful dobie. They have not been making dobies for a long time.
You are not one of them. For the love of all that is good and holy in the universe, please. freaking. stop.
Okay, I will.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Posted by Trodgor the Burly-nater (Member # 6922) on :
You're right. This isn't you.
*burly-nates pooka with blast of garlicky breath*
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
:flexes magically bestowed burly muscles: thanks!
Posted by Trodgor the Burly-nater (Member # 6922) on :
No prob.
The only side-effect is, of course, that you will now stink of garlic.
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
I loved Hatrack Infinity.
And I'm chuffed Icarus remembered God Cod OSC.
But apart from that - I'm jumping on the bandwagon. This is getting ridiculous.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
I miss Dobie's brand of pun. He was an original and I think that it is testament to the quality of his jokes that we still call a spoof thread a Dobie.
That said, I think that one of the reasons they were so funny is that they were few and far between. Timing IS everything.
And a big consideration for me, was the fact that "Dobie's" were the only thing he did. If I had the time for a light chuckle, I would read one of his threads, if I wanted to be informed, I'd read something else.
I think that one of the things that bothers me is that, since I get very little time to read the 'Rack these days, I have to decide where to spend my time. If I get used to someone always making Dobie's, I miss the truly intelligent and insightful things they have to say because I don't take time to open their threads ::shrugs:: My loss I guess.
Maybe we could have a shared name to put all "Dobie's" under? That way, we could easily distinguish between content and fluff. What do you all think?
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
What's with all the dobies? June 22nd is Dobie Day! You're all way too early!
Posted by Intelligence3 (Member # 6944) on :
quote: And, yet, if my officious manner is the end to this particular rash of dobies, I'll have felt it was worth while.
Are you this sensitive in real life? [Razz] [Smile]
I want to point out that I attempted to edit my post to add a smiley to indicate that it was dry wit, but the internet connection went down at work while I was editing it.
Was kind of frustrating to sit there trying to get back into the thread. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"broad, sweeping classifications and generalizations"
Yeah, but you have to understand, Dag, that this is your personal hangup. If some people are Grammar Nazis, you're a Generalization Nazi; it may, to generalize a bit, stem from your background as a Catholic lawyer.
I mean, this is SO your personal hot-button issue that the last time somebody made a ridiculous, sweeping generalization in my presence here in MeatSpace, I actually paused for a moment because I expected you to swoop in at any second, possibly wearing a cape and carrying a briefcase, to point out how what they were saying was obviously not true in EVERY case, and could in fact be accurately called a gross distortion. Sadly, you did not appear.
[ February 23, 2005, 09:35 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:"broad, sweeping classifications and generalizations"
Yeah, but you have to understand, Dag, that this is your personal hangup. If some people are Grammar Nazis, you're a Generalization Nazi; it may, to generalize a bit, stem from your background as a Catholic lawyer.
But is should be everybody's issue. Anyone who doesn't hate broad, sweeping generalizations is Satan's spawn.
Dagonee
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote: I actually paused for a moment because I expected you to swoop in at any second, possibly wearing a cape and carrying a briefcase, to point out how what they were saying was obviously not true in EVERY case, and could in fact be accurately called a gross distortion.
I would like to see this happen. Dagonee, please start lurking around the outskirts of my conversations, prepared for people to make generalizations. With a cape.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote:I want to point out that I attempted to edit my post to add a smiley to indicate that it was dry wit, but the internet connection went down at work while I was editing it.
Was kind of frustrating to sit there trying to get back into the thread.
Oh, man. One little smiley, a whole world 'o difference.
It's good to know you're not just some little sissy boy. I totally was going to give you wedgies and monkey bumps to toughen you up, and now I won't have to work for it! And as every one knows, I hate work. (Maybe a monkey bump or two for show.)
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Better not threaten noogies, Ralphie. If you're both standing, I don't think you could reach.
Edit:
[ February 23, 2005, 09:57 PM: Message edited by: ElJay ]
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Ten bucks says Toni could get I3 prone or in another noogiable position within fifteen seconds. Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
I have my talents.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Tom, if there was any way to prove it I would so take you on that bet.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I suppose if I3 were gay, madly infatuated with another Hatracker, or equipped with some kind of hydraulic knee/back brace, it might take her a bit longer. She'd have to subcontract the thing out.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
Those hydraulic knee/back braces are a sumbitch.
Otherwise, I wouldn't be worried.
[ February 23, 2005, 10:03 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
Posted by Intelligence3 (Member # 6944) on :
Bring it!
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
He's too eager.
I give him ten seconds or less.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
quote: But is should be everybody's issue. Anyone who doesn't hate broad, sweeping generalizations is Satan's spawn.
Dagonee
LOL! Really!
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
What interests me is that there will probably be a West Coast gathering sometime where all this will be tested. I hope I'm there. With popcorn.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
quote: "Dobies are more humorous than practically all puns (in other words, barely humorous at all), and those are encouraged on this board."
Luckily, most puns are confined to a thread or two. Whereas Dobies, by definition, create a new thread of spam.
I was just rereading the page, when it hit me: You did that on purpose! Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:LOL! Really!
Yep. Every single one of them. No exceptions.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
There haven't been any real dobies for a lo-o-ong time. Or at least they've been extremely few and very far between.
1st) A dobie must be spun off of a truly contentious or popular thread: ie one with lots of postings within a short period of time.
2nd) The thread title must be identical or easily mistaken for the original. The first is prefered: the gotcha is in using a different meaning of the original title word(s). God -> Cod is a dobie. A quick scan can lead to mistaking it for the original. god -> cod is not. God -> Gold is not. Neither can be misread as the original.
3rd) The first/topic posting in a dobie must be extremely similar to or a close parody of the original.
4th) A dobie should contain a link in that first/topic posting. Which means that the original should also have had a link in the first/topic posting. Not must, but ya lose a lot of points toward dobiehood without the link in the original and especially in the dobie attempt. In other words, it better be "spew your soda all over the screen" funny if the link requirements aren't met.
5th) A linked-dobie must have the gotcha in clicking its link, and finding an article that matches the underlined-words-of-the-link yet also uses an entirely different meaning than those underlined-words-of-the-link did in the original.
Puns and wordplay do not a dobie make. They should be confined to the original thread.
Most of the pseudo"dobie"s are just showing disdain for others, for their use of this forum, by blowing their threads off the front page for a meaningless "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!"
[ March 04, 2005, 07:59 AM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Boy, you're a tough sell.
<- Wasn't around when Dobie was active <- Also, has never tried to post one <- And probably won't
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
So, unless we post thoughtful, insightful threads we are pathetic attention seekers? Not everyone is looking for the same gratification from this site that you are. Different strokes for different folks is one of the ideas that make this board so entertaining.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote: So, unless we post thoughtful, insightful threads we are pathetic attention seekers? Not everyone is looking for the same gratification from this site that you are.
Do you really believe the point of this thread was to say that all threads should only ever be thoughtful and insightful?
Making a request to get some color on a white wall doesn't mean you require it now to be black. There are alllll sorts of options between "back off the dobies" and "Only ever post serious topics! Seig Heil!"
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Nope, punwit. I love the fluff threads. I love the puns and the jokes. I love the "just normal stuff" commentaries. I doubt that I would be a regular if they weren't a major part of this community's activities. Heck, I'm probably the lowest-numbered member who regularly partakes of the LastPost thread; and one of the few regulars who remembers when&how&why they started.
Nonetheless, displacing others' threads off the front page, not to share, but rather to garner extra attention to oneself is just spam.
[ February 23, 2005, 11:23 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
I'm sorry, I was remiss in not indicating that my post was directed to aspectre for this:
quote: Most of the pseudo"dobie"s are just showing disdain for others, for their use of this forum, by blowing their threads off the front page for a meaningless "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!"
I found the proliferation of dobies a bit tiresome but I don't agree with the previous view at all.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
I hope I've answered your objection in the posting immediately preceding it.
The reason ol'timers rarely do (or don't do) dobies is cuz they're hard to pull off. Cuz they hafta be unexpected; the main joke is in the gotcha: being pulled into a thread you thought you had already read (maybe already posted in, or are intending to reply to); noticing it's different ("hrrrmmm...Maybe the moderators deleted a buncha the postings."); clicking the link and finding out that it isn't the same thread at all, not even in subject matter; then getting annoyed that ya got pulled into a different thread, followed by laughing at yourself for falling for it.
[ February 24, 2005, 12:03 AM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote:Maybe we could have a shared name to put all "Dobie's" under? That way, we could easily distinguish between content and fluff. What do you all think?
btw - This isn't a bad idea, but unfortunately I don't think it would be any more successful than Moose's 'Dobie Thread', meant to contain them within one.
MOST Dobies are started by n00bs who don't understand the tradition (as it is on Hatrack) and have yet to gain a sense of proportion. It would be just as difficult trying to introduce each of them to a single moniker as it is a single thread.
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Ralphie, I'll feel really bad if you wind up leaving because I couldn't contain my dobieing urge this afternoon. But it was really gratifying that it bugged Tom.
The great thing about Good COD... was that the original title had been all caps and COD happened to be an acronym.
But Moose's Iraq -> a rack isn't visually confoundable. Not that you ever said you thought it was.
quote: This isn't a bad idea
I nominate Dobbie, Trogdor the Burninator, and Rita Spankmistress as the only true dobie makers. Which is too bad because I don't know any of those logins. Well, too bad for me at least.
[ February 24, 2005, 12:29 AM: Message edited by: mothertree ]
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
Ah well, it was a thought. I suppose that one of the attractions of "Dobies" is being able to take personal credit for the thoughts.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
I would swallow my tongue if Rita was the Dobie maker.
pooka - I anticipated the Dobies for today. Heck, I'm an anarchist at heart, too. I can see why people wouldn't be able to resist temptation.
I'm not leaving due to today. Admittedly, if the forum continues to be 30% on the first page for the next two weeks I'll probably lose interest and stop checking the board, but it took me a long time just to get to the point of making a thread. It would be pretty lame if I decided to leave in a huff because people weren't doing exactly what I wanted exactly when I wanted them to.
But thanks for askin'.
[ February 24, 2005, 01:06 AM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
I must admit that I have made three or four dobies in my Hatrack life, and at least two of them were dobies of my own thread. I apologize.
Kind of. I thought they were pretty funny. Both were somewhat substantial threads, if that helps. Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I admit to starting the Hatrack Sock Exchange thread in response to T_Smith's Hatrack Stock Exchange thread. I think that's been my only dobie.
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
In a guesture of solidarity against dobies, I am boycotting all dobies.
At least for today. Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
OK, OK, I have to do this now. I am suspending my Hatrack participation entirely and all other online participation for the time being. Starting now. I have to much to get done and I'm getting refresh rash. Posting this is entirely for my benefit so that I know I've done it. I will see you all later. Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I admire you immensely, afr.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
Ralphie, I'm petitioning to add a sixth person to that list of dobie makers, me. My dobies have been few and far between, but I think the quality of my dobies speak for themselves. My resume:
I started a dobie that has created a Hatrack in joke and a new persona for one of our members: "I don't believe in K.A.M.A." or "do you believe in KAMA?" or something along those lines.
I also had a pretty long lasting one that went something along the lines of "I believe in the existence of Pod".
I believe these two examples alone should be enough to guarantee a top placement, right up there with the dobie greats. But I will adhere to your final judgement.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
I remember "I don't believe in Kama." It was brilliant.
(She wasn't an acronym yet when you posted it. She became an acronym as a result of your dobie.)
Clearly, that has to be one of the greatest dobies ever.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
ahhh..correct.
the original was something like "I don't believe in karma".
I wish those threads were still around.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
I gave you honorable mention, Strider. Those were pretty classic.
For what it's worth, in my opinion there's no need to feel guilt over having made Dobies. The reason why I think people are sick of them is their ubiquitiousness and inanity. But they aren't always so ham-fisted, and they aren't always made in droves.
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
Aspectre, I was perhaps, a bit annoyed last night and my tone was reflective of that, for which I apologize. I still don't share your opinion but I can admit that there are many who do share that perception. I find that I'm reluctant to assign motivation to groups of posters because that is, in my opinion, presumptive. I also recognize that what one may find funny and relaxing, another may find tiresome and boring. At any rate, I appreciate your desire to clarify your position without taking offense at my sarcasm.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:assign motivation to groups of posters
I still maintain that this is more destructive than excessive dobies.
[ February 24, 2005, 04:05 PM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
quote: at least two of them were dobies of my own thread.
I missed that. But the question is, did you register a new screen name to post them under?
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