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Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Jamie is having a really bad head ache, mild stomach cramps and hot flashes. She wants to know if anyone has any suggestions?
 
Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
Use birth control next time. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Bwahahahahahahhah! [Big Grin]

Um, sorry. *sends sympathy Jamie's way*
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
And now she has the pukes.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Is she having a migraine?

(on my way to a meeting, can't stay [Frown] )

Good luck!
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Don't know if its a migrane. She just said her head hurt.
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
Stuff she has in the house she can use....

Benadryl or hydroxyzine or phenergan might help the nausea, I'd recommend that. Or I suppose I could call in some suppository form of phenergan if she is puking, because she only pukes if she is really, really bad off so I don't know if she can keep medications down.

She would have taken her celebrex vioxx or bextra if she had it, so if she didn't find any, that might be something to consider adding.

No fever? Can she touch her chin to her chest? Neck sore? Rash? Other symptoms?
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Now she is really cold and in bed. She had a temp of 97.

It's now 96.4, btw.

[ March 09, 2005, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: T_Smith ]
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
((((Jamie))))
 
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
 
Man that sounds liek how I began pnuemonia. Both times. I hope she doesn't have that, it really sucks.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
Ooooh, I just had a sick with the chills. All I can say is, it gets better. [Frown] Take echinacea?
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
Well you could always hop in bed and share your body heat to keep her warm... I'm glad she didn't go to class today.

AJ
 
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
 
Aw. Tell her to get better or else!
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
How does she usually get sick with a cold or flu?

Are these symptoms really abnormal for her?

And what did she have for dinner last night?

-Trevor
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
She doesn't really get colds or the flu.

Spaghetti and meatballs (she made the meatballs out of ground beef herself) for dinner.
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
BUT she just commented the other day that she doesn't get colds, so now she's doomed.
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
Did you have the meatballs?

-Trevor
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Yeah, I had them. No problem with me.

[ March 09, 2005, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: T_Smith ]
 
Posted by Mormo (Member # 5799) on :
 
Get better, Jamie. [Frown]

Morbo
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
It sounds like food poisoning to me.

When did the symptoms start? And what did she have to eat during the day before the symptoms started?

Generally speaking, with the flu or cold, you feel yucky before you hit the "happy go pukey land" part of the trip.

-Trevor
 
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
 
Generally speaking, with flu or cold, you never vomit at all.

[Razz]
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
Yes mom.

What's worse, she's right. [Razz]

-Trevor
 
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
 
Sounds like food poisoning to me, too.
[Dont Know]
However, mackillian also has a history of abdominal migraines.
And I do know of people who have headaches that will cause them to puke.

[ March 09, 2005, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Actually, the first time Christy was pregnant, she had stabbing headaches accompanied by nausea. We had no idea she was pregnant at the time and took her to the doctor for the pain; they completely misdiagnosed the pregnancy and sent her home with a lecture about stressful living.

[ March 09, 2005, 07:57 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
 
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
 
o_O

Get better, mack!

Hmmm... Dragon hugged her... Tough luck! [Razz]
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Heh, not pregnancy guys.

She took some anti-naus meds, but still feels like poo. I think she needs to sleep a bit.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
There's no way I could be pregnant, unless you can be pregnant and have a period at the same time. Just sayin'.

I still feel like total crap, but not quite as badly as before. My body hurts along with my head, but the headache isn't blistering. My adbominal cavity DEFINITELY hurts, along with the rest of my body. [Frown]

I can't exactly get up yet. *sigh*
 
Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
 
Actually, Jamie, I seem to remember rare cases of exactly that. Well, technically not, but the women involveed couldn't tell the difference.

[Evil Laugh]
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
Try soy products. Always helps me when I have period stuff. (Those symptoms are always hormonal for me; we keep Trader Joe's chocolate soy milk, the only kind I like, around-- which is hard to do when you're two states away from the nearest Trader Joe's.) Chocolate Tofutti Cuties especially help.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Ugh. Food very over. And Nathan cooked some sort of Thai thing for dinner and the house REEKS of it. >_<
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
I know, sweetie. (((hugs))) I mean when you're able to think about food.

You know, you may be hormonal with a virus on top. Poor thing.

When you can swallow stuff without it coming back up, really, take echinacea. In the meantime, keep hydrated, but take it in small sips, one every 15 minutes or so.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
so...thirsty...

I'm still at the stage of the body only willing to be in a select few positions without getting really icky. I took a phenergan an hour and a half ago. Nausea mostly gone, mucho pain still. [Frown]
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Have you thought of endometriosis? If the pain is severe and you think it might be intensifying the other symptoms, it is a possibility.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
I just had mack's symptoms, and it was my period. Is it possible it's all hormonal?
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
I haven't had an abdominal migraine in a LONG time and never with vomiting. So I have no idea what's going on. I'd suspect food poisioning, but no idea what could've caused it since Nathan eats all the same stuff and he's fine.

Ow. Must not breathe deeply.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
[Frown]

Hope you get to feeling better.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
O_o It could be hormonal? That'd be like having hormones from Hades or something. Another thing that's odd is the BC I'm on has made stuff funky in terms of periods anyway. It seems my body now has a period when it decides it wants to (the past week) AND when the BC tells it to. [Mad] This is when I hate being a girl.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Hey, mack, I'm with you. Well, except I have the periods from hell, well, always, regardless of BC or not. I usually also start dilating - I hate the shifting pelvic bones! They hurt! Then there are the cramps, the headaches, the back aches. And the vomiting - two days ago, it was so bad it went out my nose, and I end up with the broken blood vessels around my puffy puffy eyes and my eyes hurt so bad because of the excess fluid buildup because of the pressure from vomiting.

Yeah, it could be the hormones. If that's the case, I have major sympathies. Well, no, I have major sympathies anyway. [Frown]
 
Posted by Mr.Gumby (Member # 6303) on :
 
whoa whoa. Too much information... HE-LLO
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Nathan eats food thats been out for a couple of hours. Nathans body is immune to any mildly bad food. :-p

But not really.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Hush, Alex, you didn't HAVE to read it.

Quid...ugh, that sounds so horrible. I didn't even vomit a LOT (enough that it sucked), but it was the sweats and chills and the head/body/abdominal pain that's getting me now.

And I'm so thirsty [Frown]
 
Posted by Mr.Gumby (Member # 6303) on :
 
sorry, it's kinda hard for me to look at words and not automatically read them
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
[ROFL] Yeah, like I have sympathy for boys who don't have to go through it, just read it!

Mack, take it easy and drink whatever fluids you can. Herbal tea? Ginger tea? Crackers tend to help the stomach calm down. Bananas are . . . wait, that's for the other end. Um, I don't know. I tend to avoid food altogether until it feels a little bit normal again.

Good luck. It sucks. And my eyes still hurt. [Eek!]
 
Posted by Mr.Gumby (Member # 6303) on :
 
I just remembered that I avoid these conversations for obvios reasons... gotta go
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
o_O

I'm the same way as you, quid. I don't want ANY food until I'm fairly certain it won't be coming out the wrong way.

Apparently Nathan is the opposite. As soon as he heard me finish throwing up, he ran up to the door, knocked, and asked if I wanted something to eat. [Eek!]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Jamie, if you're having trouble keeping even water down, have you tried sucking on an ice cube? Or maybe a popsicle? That might help with the thirsty without triggering vomiting.

Feel better, sweetie. That sounds so sucky! [Frown] *hug*
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
So far I've kept sips of water down every 15 minutes or so. My whole body hurts right now and there's nothing I can do to make it stop [Frown]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Owie. [Frown]
 
Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
 
I apologize for the taunting, Jamie. I did not realize it was so bad.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
When my periods are this bad, every joint tends to hurt as well. I seem to recall that it's hormone related - I don't remember which one. Like during pregnancy, a woman's ligaments will stretch, and that can result in looser joints than normal, and that can cause pain and discomfort. Whereas I have loose ligaments anyway, but it's always worse during my period, and they always cause more pain as a result.

Now, I'm not saying that this is definitely it, but if you've started new BC, it could be. If it is, you'd probably want to talk to the doc about changing to another type with less side effects for you.
 
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
 
I agree with quid about the birth control. If it's causing you to spot or have periods between periods than you need a different type or a different dose of hormones (if it's the pill).

I hope you feel better soon. [Frown]

space opera
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
The hormone that causes ligament and joint stretchiness during pregnancy is relaxin. Since it's produced by the corpus luteum, which should be gone if a period has started, it would be odd if that were the culprit, neh? [Dont Know]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Not in me, rivka. I have irregular hormone levels, and have always had. And there's pretty much nothing normal about my body and its reactions.

As far as for other people, well, sure, no problem! I can agree with that given my lack of concrete knowledge about it. [Smile]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
It's been a while since I reviewed hormones and their feedback interactions and stuff . . . but the corpus luteum decays in 10-14 days, unless pregnancy occurs.

Also, while the stretchiness from relaxin was sometimes uncomfortable, I don't think it causes the kind of pain you're describing. Not my field, but my layperson guess would be that it's another culprit. *shrug* Sympathy regardless! [Wink]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Anytime any of you wants to wave a magic wand to make the pain go away, I'm totally game.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
*attempts*

Bibbity bobbity SHOOOOO!
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
*adds attempt at wave wanding to rivkas*

*remembers those days*

*decides the hysterectomy was really a blessing in a disguise*

*gingerly hugs mack and offers a cup of mild chamomile tea with a spot of lemon and honey*
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
All I know is that, for me, it occurs only during my period, and the ob-gyn has confirmed it's female hormone related, although I don't remember details, so whether it's that one or another one, I have no idea.
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Well, she threw up again in the night, and woke up this morning still feeling like poo (however, she admitted to feeling like slightly higher quality poo, but poo nonetheless).

[ March 10, 2005, 12:26 PM: Message edited by: T_Smith ]
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
Good luck guys - I hope you get it figured out soon.

And T - just a note...not many people want to eat after having their stomach turned inside out. [Big Grin]

-Trevor
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
[Frown]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
I THINK I'm getting better. I slept till two, got up, tottered over to the bathroom and got a shower (mmmmm). I'm now plunked on the couch and don't really intend on moving. But at least I'm UPRIGHT and not writhing in pain.

Poor Nathan, I don't know if I'll ever allow him to make pad thai again.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
I'm so glad you are better. Wonderful that you had Theca here.

(Wonderful-er that you had Nathan there!)

PS: any symptoms of a urinary tract infection, offhand? Frequent small amounts, burning, urgency? Unlikely, but I was just worried about urosepsis, too.

[ March 10, 2005, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Huzzah! Nathan did a good job of taking care of me, as long as I pretend he didn't ask me if I wanted something to eat RIGHT after I threw up. [Wink]
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
I love Pad Thai. No way I'm not making it again, theres more rice noodles and sauce! And it was sooooo easy!
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Hmm. I don't think so. It doesn't hurt to pee, though a lot of the time, five minutes later, I have to go again, just a bit. I never got a temp though. Today it's my lower abdomen and lower back that hurt.
 
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
feel better jamie!
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
You going to see somebody about this, or wait awhile? If you do see a physician (or PA or NP), I'd think about requesting they do a spot urine sample, just in case.

It's kind of the traditional newlywed issue.

*averts eyes discreetly, changes subject

So, um, yeah. No fever is a very good thing, eh? [Smile]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
*snort*

I suspect that as well, but I've never HAD one. No burning when I pee either. I'm also menstruating, so that'd throw off the sample anyway. Bleah. The abdominal pain might be because of the menstruation. Stupid uterus! If I'm not better by tomorrow (I mean, I've gotten worse or haven't been able to keep down some decent food), I'll give the doc a call. I will be calling about the BC though, 'cause two periods a month really isn't my idea of a good time.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Oddly enough, UTIs aren't always painful when you pee. Mind you, any I've had always made me sit up and take notice, but that isn't always the case. And lower back pain with abdominal pain at this particular time just raises a red flag.

If Nathan pounds you lightly on your lower back a few inches to either side of the spinal column, does this feel good or bad? (kidneys are there)
 
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
Lower back pain with a period could also mean endometriosis, right? My hips and lower back always felt sore every time I had a period.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Um, bad. I threatened him, then punched him in the arm.
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Mack, I recommend this: Scroll down to the pictures.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
[ROFL] I want one of those shirts!
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
[Smile] Sorry, limited edition print made by two of my friends in concert. I loves them.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Well, you know, I'm a big fan of using your healthcare insurance when you need it, if you have it. [Smile]

I trust you will take good care of yourself.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Yes, I just dunno exactly what's up. [Smile]
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
[ROFL]
 
Posted by JamGodJeff (Member # 7457) on :
 
come on. it's uterUS not uterYOU
 
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
 
If you really want one of shirts, you can copy the picture from the website and print it on iron on paper.
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Yeah, that's how we made them. I could probably get the original picture for you, so you wouldn't have to use the one in the picture.
 


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