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Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
 
Sorry if this has been posted already.

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Stinky the Robot, Four Kids And a Brief Whiff of Success

By Peter Carlson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 29, 2005; Page C01

Stinky is one ugly robot, a raggedy contraption constructed of crudely painted, cheap plastic pipes pasted together with gobs of the foul-smelling glue that gave the monstrosity its name.

Stinky's creators didn't look all that impressive, either -- four teenage guys in baggy pants and sneakers, all of them illegal Mexican immigrants attending Carl Hayden High School in funky West Phoenix.

When Stinky arrived at last year's Marine Advanced Technology Remotely Operated Vehicle Competition -- an underwater robotics contest sponsored by NASA and the Office of Naval Research -- it was greeted with barely suppressed snickers. Nobody expected Stinky to compete with the robot from MIT, a handsome machine created by 12 elite engineering and computer science students and decorated with a sticker from ExxonMobil, the company that donated $5,000 to the MIT team.

But the kids from Hayden High beat MIT and the rest of the competition -- an amazing upset chronicled in an inspiring story in the April issue of Wired magazine. Americans love a tale of scrappy underdogs triumphing against long odds, and "La Vida Robot" by Joshua Davis is a classic. It's got all the ingredients of a feel-good movie of the week -- colorful characters, high drama, low comedy and a happy ending.

Well, a sort of happy ending.

It began when a couple of Hayden science teachers put up fliers offering to coach a team in the contest, which requires the construction of a remote-controlled robot that can explore a sunken mock-up of a submarine.

Four kids signed up: Cristian Arcega, the school's science whiz, who lived in a wooden shack attached to his parents' trailer. Lorenzo Santillan, a former gang member who loves fixing cars. Oscar Vazquez, an ROTC student with leadership skills. And Luis Aranda, a big, burly kid with the muscle to wrestle the 100-pound robot into place.

They raised $800 from local businesses and built Stinky out of PVC pipes and off-the-shelf computer parts. They tested it in a local pool, then headed to Santa Barbara last summer for the contest.

"The Carl Hayden teammates tried to hide their nervousness, but they were intimidated," Davis writes. "Lorenzo had never seen so many white people in one place."

Immediately, they had a problem: When Aranda lowered Stinky into the pool, they realized they had a leak. Not only did they have to re-solder every wire in the machine overnight, Vazquez told his teammates, but they also had to find something absorbent to keep moisture away from the circuitry.

"Absorbent?" Santillan asked, recalling countless TV ads. "Like a tampon?"

Soon, Santillan was in the nearest supermarket, trying to work up the courage to ask a young woman for advice on which brand of tampons might work best in an underwater robot.

The woman laughed and made her recommendation. "I hope you win," she said.

And win they did, copping the grand prize after Stinky performed a task the MIT robot couldn't -- sucking fluid from a tiny container 12 feet under water. They also won the awards for best design and best technical writing.

"Us illiterate people from the desert?" Santillan said he thought when they won, amazed that a bunch of "English as a Second Language" kids had just beaten America's most prestigious engineering school.

Their moment of triumph was sweet but short-lived.

Vazquez and Aranda graduated from Hayden last spring, but they're not in college now, Davis writes, because they're illegal immigrants and thus ineligible for student loans or cheap in-state tuition. Vazquez is hanging drywall and Aranda is filing papers at a Social Security office. Santillan and Arcega are still at Hayden, Davis says, but their prospects for college also look dubious.

Is there anybody out there who can give these kids a break?

Things like this make me think our immigration policies are just hurting ourselves.

Maybe Congress could create one-off legislation to do something useful like grant these kids resident status and send them to college.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
Aw, If I had money I'd send those poor cubs off to college... Smart kids like that deserve better than just... fermenting somewhere.
 
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
 
They oughta apply to MIT. They love lil stinkers who'll force the "smart"kids to get off their duffs, to think different.
Should be able to get a full-ride.
One of the tenured profs in the MIT robotics department worked his way in by demonstrating the same type of skills as those kids. Specialized in dumbots -- inexpensive mostly mechanical contraptions with minimal motors and minimal-to-no processors -- which, in competitions, consistently trashed the "more sophisticated" robots produced by highly-funded programs.

[ April 09, 2005, 11:14 AM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
Is this really a one-sided case of bureacracy keeping the scrappy engineer-to-be down? If so, let's get the bureacracy out of the way, and let these kids earn their education.

But I'm guessing there's more to the story than the bittersweet article Bob posted.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
La Vida Robot-- Wired Article
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
quote:
Things like this make me think our immigration policies are just hurting ourselves.
Boy do I have a thread for you!

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
If I owned a technology company (a big one), I'd set up a co-op and send them all to college. I'd get them visas, too.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
There's a donation link for a college fund at the bottom of the wired article.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
I would like to know more details.

Just because they are "ineligible for student loans on in-state tuition" certainly doesn't mean they don't qualify for scholarships! I mean - we have foreign exchange students and others attending over here all the time on full scholarships.

My own son has a mostly full-ride scholarship - and has taken out no loans at all. I don't see how their illegal status is preventing them from attending colleges if the colleges were wanting them to attend...

Farmgirl
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
From the Wired article:

quote:

"You're very comfortable with the metric system," Swean observed.

"I grew up in Mexico, sir," Oscar said.

Swean nodded. He eyed their rudimentary flip chart.

"Why don't you have a PowerPoint display?" he asked.

"PowerPoint is a distraction," Cristian replied. "People use it when they don't know what to say."

"And you know what to say?"

"Yes, sir."

That comment alone should get him a full-ride to any school in the country.
 


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