You simply have to. I just made it tonight and it is nothing short of EXTRAORDINARY (yes, CAPS even). It doesn't take a lot of effort, just some coffee and dark beer and all the fixin's. I loved it. It was sweet, it was spicy, it was salty, it was earthy.
<sends food-making vibes to Jatraqueros>
Did I mention how awesome it was?
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
PC- I can't get the link to load. Could you post the recipe?
Posted by prolixshore (Member # 4496) on :
Sounds interesting, PC.
--ApostleRadio
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
<scratches head> That's weird.
Okay...
quote:INGREDIENTS:
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
2 onions, chopped
3 cloves garlic, minced
1 pound ground beef
3/4 pound beef sirloin, cubed
1 (14.5 ounce) can peeled and diced tomatoes with juice
1 (12 fluid ounce) can or bottle dark beer
1 cup strong brewed coffee
2 (6 ounce) cans tomato paste
1 (14 ounce) can beef broth
1/2 cup packed brown sugar
3 1/2 tablespoons chili powder
1 tablespoon cumin seeds
1 tablespoon unsweetened cocoa powder
1 teaspoon dried oregano
1 teaspoon ground cayenne pepper
1 teaspoon ground coriander
1 teaspoon salt
4 (15 ounce) cans kidney beans
4 fresh hot chile peppers, seeded and chopped
DIRECTIONS:
Heat oil in a large saucepan over medium heat. Cook onions, garlic, ground beef and cubed sirloin in oil for 10 minutes, or until the meat is well browned and the onions are tender.
Mix in the diced tomatoes with juice, dark beer, coffee, tomato paste and beef broth. Season with brown sugar, chili powder, cumin, cocoa powder, oregano, cayenne pepper, coriander and salt. Stir in 2 cans of the beans and hot chile peppers. Reduce heat to low, and simmer for 1 1/2 hours.
Stir in the 2 remaining cans of beans, and simmer for another 30 minutes.
Not my Recipe, but really good.
[ April 02, 2005, 01:26 AM: Message edited by: Primal Curve ]
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
Thanks, PC Sounds tasty. My family loves chili, so I'll give it a try this weekend.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*looks at recipe*
Won't be making that...
I like chili with some carmelized onions for a base.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Why kq? The beer? The onions are carmelized. It's part of the first step.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I read that. I was saying I like that. But
<--- is Mormon. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
(Although, actually, it says to cook 'til they're tender, not golden. I cook them 'til they're golden, truly carmelized.)
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
You could make it with alcohol free beer.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
And coffee free coffee? *hates the taste of coffee and beer anyway* *actually cooks with alcohol occasionally, but that's another story*
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Decaf Coffee. Trust me, it's good.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Decaf coffee is prohibited by the WOW (as interpreted by prophets and explained by a former bishop of mine).
[ April 02, 2005, 01:48 AM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
What's the reasoning? (This is curiosity speaking)
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
The reasoning is that God told us not to. Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Okaaaay... I'm asking for elaboration. I could have decifered that myself.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Are you asking for the reasoning behind coffee and tea in general, or decaf coffee in particular?
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Well, decaf especially. I thought that caffiene was the outlawed item- not tea or coffee. I mean, you should have had this Jasmine tea I got at a Mongolian restaurant a couple of days ago- amazing stuff.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
It's not caffiene, actually; in the original wording, it's "hot drinks". Later prophets have told us this means coffee and tea, and many Saints drink hot cocoa. I, however, limit the cocoa to when it's very cold, and only drink herbal tea as medicine when I am sick, even though they are technically not prohibited by current practice. I had a bishop who got up one day and said, "It seems to me I need to clarify something. When I have people in my office for a recommend interview saying that they drink decaf but they don't drink Coke, so they're following the Word of Wisdom, something's wrong. Caffiene is not prohibited, although like all substances which may cause dependency, it should be consumed carefully. An addiction to anything is not good. However, coffee is prohibited, and drinking decaf is just walking an imaginary line. I am telling you now that, as we are to avoid even the appearance of evil, we should not be drinking decaffinated coffee."
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Thank you for the explaination. I'll leave my opinions and thoughts for another time.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
You're welcome.
This is such a Hatrack thread-- started off with a chili recipe, and ended up with a discussion of LDS practice...
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
That looks great. Does it taste coffee-y?
I'm thinking I'll buy a 6pack of the beer and then Tony and I can drink the rest while we eat the chilli. Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
There's certainly coffee flavour present, but it's not overpowering at all.
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
Some of us just think coffee tastes nasty added to anything.
And some of us are allergic to alcohol.
But for the Mormons here: It's not publicized, but at least in the past the official answer on decaf has been "Do you have to? Well, go ahead if you must." I know because that's the answer a member of my bishopric got when I was in a Salt Lake City ward back in the late 70s. But maybe it's changed since then.
And I don't mean he got that answer from God, I mean he got it from some official person in the Office of the First Presidency.
But really, is anybody so coffee-happy they have to add it to CHILI?
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Ketchupqueesn, I find it ironic that you make the best hot chocolate ever, yet you drink it cold. Just sayin.' Do you serve it cold, too? Isn't that chocolate milk?
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
See I *like* the taste of coffee. And I like using it in cooking. A good shot of espresso in a chocolate cake can raise it from just ordinary to sublime.
So I'm willing to give it a shot. I'm guessing it will add more depth and complexity to the taste, rather than just "Wow, coffee-chili."
But, each to their own.
**
Liz - I agree! I had never thought of that! So kq, spill the beans - is it really the best cold-hot chocolate in the world?
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I am definitely going to try this chili. Mexican cooking often uses chocolate, so why not coffee? I bet it does add depth and flavor, and does not taste like coffee at all.
One of my favorite foods in this world is beer cheese soup from Mister Up's restaurant in Middlebury, Vt. Doesn't taste like beer in the least. I have the restaurant recipe still, i think. A friend transposed it to family size, bt it was one of those things that never quite worked, or tasted like the restaurant's.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
The bread at the Outback contains coffee. It think a lot of the softer, darker breads do.
And I will try that chilli sometime.
[ April 02, 2005, 09:40 AM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote: Ketchupqueesn, I find it ironic that you make the best hot chocolate ever, yet you drink it cold. Just sayin.' Do you serve it cold, too? Isn't that chocolate milk?
No, I serve it hot-- and limit myself to once in a while, while it's warm, when it's very cold and I need something hot to warm me up, because otherwise I feel like a hypocrite.
(I will point out that I am a convert, so I can make it for my dad and his friends and none of them are violating anything by drinking it.)
[ April 02, 2005, 09:42 AM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I have a friend who(for non religious reasons) has to have coffee in the following way: Brewed hot and full strength. Watered down by half. Barely warm when she drinks it.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
My dad likes his coffee. A lot.
I make very good coffee. I love the smell. I just don't drink it-- never have, I don't like the taste at all.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
I'm telling you, OSC, this chili is awesome. It is rich and tasty and doesn't taste like coffee (it has a hint of it, yes, but it doesn't take over the dish).
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
My wife, who hates beer and coffee, really liked this chili too. She even forgave the number of hot peppers in there .
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
What about iced coffee and iced tea? Is that permissable?
And as long as we are discussing LDS curiosities... ever since reading Lost Boys, I've wondered exactly what the deal with underwear is. I mean, why would someone have an odd reaction to LDS underwear?
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
I'll try the chili.
mimsies, this is a sacred matter to those of the faith, so we probably won't get too specific. As I recall, it isn't a matter for casual conversation. These are sometimes referred to as "temple garments," and they serve to the wearer as both a reminder of vows and as an element of chaste dressing. At least, this is how I understand it.
If you are still wondering, I expect a websearch on "Mormon" and "temple garments" would give some more thorough answers, although you will of course find links to some sites which are derogatory of the practice of this faith. Such is the wonder that is Google.
[Re-Edit: [Link Deleted] is a pretty specific page, and it seems relatively decent. I will, of course, remove the link if there should be any objections to it.]
[ April 02, 2005, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
why thankyou! researching "Mormon" and "underwear" gave too many weird places. "Temple Garments" is probably a better search parameter. Thanks Again!
I think i'll try clusty.com which clusters result by topic. I might avoid the negative ones that way.
EDIT:Thanks for the link. That is VERY interesting. It seems silly to ridicule people for that. Then again, I never understood people ridiculing other people for their beliefs and their faiths.
[ April 02, 2005, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: mimsies ]
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Delighted to be of service. And, if I've missed it before, welcome to Hatrack. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
CT, the link does seem pretty decent-- except that it's explicitly discussing things I'm really not sure should be discussed. :|
And no, iced tea or coffee are not permissible. Basically, the original language has been clarified for us by later prophets to be coffee and tea.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
When in doubt, delete it out. Just call me The Deletinator.
[I ain't afraid of no buttons ...]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Thank you. Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Eh, no worries. I'm always willing. And you have my apologies, as well.
[ April 02, 2005, 04:07 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
'Sokay, it purported to be from a faithful, endowed member, so I can see where you wouldn't have known it really was too explicit. I don't blame you.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
I've been here long enough to realize that the details are not for casual conversation (honestly, I know this, and I should be held accountable). I just was fretting about mimsies plowing through goodness-knows-what, and I figured a heads-up along with hanging around to delete if desired would do.
Mind you, an email would have served better, come to think of it, but I'm kinda sleepy. I need to nap before the cello concert tonight, that's for dang sure.
Ah, well. We muddle along with as much grace and caring as we can. Posted by dread pirate romany (Member # 6869) on :
I'm intrigued by this recipe, but then I rememer the time my friend brought me some chocolate flavored beer on the premise that I like chocolate, and I like beer, so I'll love this. Some things should not be.
Beer in chili though...yum.
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
quote: But really, is anybody so coffee-happy they have to add it to CHILI?
Me! Me!
This chili sounds amazing.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
I'd be suprised if anyone didn't like this chili. You'd really have to be a tasteless wonder to not.
Posted by Yozhik (Member # 89) on :
You had me until the coffee... My interpretation of the Word of Wisdom is pretty liberal. I have no problem cooking with alcohol, because most of it cooks out, and what's left isn't enough to worry about. (My own favorite chili recipe has a bottle of beer in it. My nonmember husband drinks the other three bottles.)
But darn it, coffee doesn't cook out, and even I can't think of a rationalization that will let me use it.
By the way, most grocery-store brands of coffee (Maxwell House, etc.) smell and taste icky. More expensive coffee like Gevalia, on the other hand, smells and tastes good. I liked it with milk and sugar. Sometimes I miss it. Oh, well, if it wasn't tasty, it wouldn't be a particularly worthwhile sacrifice to give it up. (Why can't there be a religion where we vow to give up something unpleasant, like sticking our fingers into electrical outlets?)
Before I converted, back when I still drank coffee, we belonged to the club that Gevalia has where they send you coffee shipments every few months. Once, we quit the club, and they gave us a free canister to rejoin. Then we quit again, and they gave us another free canister. The next time we quit, and we got a free coffeemaker for rejoining. Then we quit for good and moved to another address, so we never knew what they would have offered us to rejoin. (The free bathrobes, maybe? Those looked comfy.)
[ April 03, 2005, 12:44 AM: Message edited by: Yozhik ]
Posted by JohnHansen (Member # 41) on :
I've had a chili that had beer and coffee in it before. It was horrible.
My chili usually wins the annual Chili cook-off at work but it isn't a recipe that is written down anywhere. I always make it to taste. It's a ground beef, chili bean, chili powder, tomato sauce, and crushed tomatoes sort of chili.
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
I hate chili (and I grew up in New Mexico!) I hate beer (but LOVE Bears) and only tolerate coffee for my asthma!
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
JohnHansen,
My chili can beat up your chili's honor roll student.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Would it be alright without the beans? I really don't like beans in my chili.
Chocolate, beer, coffee - no problem. Beans? Icky. I think it's the texture.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
There's four cans of beans in there. You'd have to find something else to substitute. More meat? Ick.
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
how about rice crispies instead of beans?
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Too absorbent. They'd dry up the chili.
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
ok, how about Cap'n Crunch coated in apoxy?
Posted by ChaosTheory (Member # 7069) on :
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the chile from Wendey's that had a finger in it.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
No, it was a taco from Taco Belle
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
It was a sloppy joe in my kitchen, and the finger was still attached to my hand. I just lost track.
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
That wouldn't be a sloppy joe, it'd be a sloppy scott...
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
Why Scott instead of Orson? I like the name Orson. I wrote a story once with a main character named Orson. Before I read any OSC. I like Orson because it means Bear.
edit: I can't spell worth legumes
[ April 05, 2005, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: mimsies ]
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"I've had a chili that had beer and coffee in it before. It was horrible."
I find it amazing that JohnHansen would come out of lurkerdom to tell us that he's going to hell.
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
I'm more curious about the cocoa than the coffee or beer.
Both coffee and beer seem like the kind of things one would put into chili... but cocoa?
A friend of mine used to use yellow curry powder. It was really good.
btw, it was a Wendy's here in San Jose' that had the special ingredient. I understand the person asked for a refund but the people behind the counter just gave him the finger.
The local news described it as "A South Bay Wendy's" and I remember thinking "ummmm.. I useda eat at Wendy's all the time.. and order the chili... was it MY Wendy's????" Fortunately, it wasn't.
Pix
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
As Elizabeth noted on page one, cocoa is used in some Mexican sauces -- generally various versions of molé. It adds a nice rich and earthy complex flavor to the sauce so adding it to chili makes sense to me.
Notice, however, that it's just the cocoa (and should be unsweetened cocoa) that is used so it's not very sweet. Much of the sweetness in molé comes from the cinnamon and tomatoes (and sometimes plantains) that go into a typical version.
I love a good molé.
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
I can understand adding the coffee to the chili. It would enhance the beefiness.
Being Mormon, I don't use coffee, but I do keep a bottle of Pero around for putting a tablespoon or 2 into beef gravy and beef stew. It doesn't make it taste like Pero (which is good because I don't like the way it tastes) but it seems to me to enhance the meaty flavors.
In this particular recipe, I don't know what I would substite for the beer though (since I don't cook with alcohol).
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
quote: I understand the person asked for a refund but the people behind the counter just gave him the finger.
This has a beautiful double meaning. I'm not sure if that's what you meant, but it was brilliant. Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
Thank you =) the double meaning was intended.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Is there a reason why one couldn't use alcohol free beer?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Because beer tastes like dog urine, and non-alcoholic beer tastes worse.
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
Does non-alcoholic beer smell as bad as regular beer does?
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
*wonders how KQ knows what dog urine tastes like*
*decides some things are better left unknown*
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Beer smells bad?
Ha, I understand your point of view since I used to share it, but I have to disagree now that my tastes have matured. A good beer is very nice and giving it up is one of the 6 billion reasons I'm glad I'm not mormon.
If you want a good non-alcoholic beer, pick up Haake Beck. I used Beck's Dark in my chili and it was incredible.
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
quote:Because beer tastes like dog urine, and non-alcoholic beer tastes worse.
Gahhhhhh!!!!
KQ, How many types of beer have you sampled? There are dozens and dozens of styles. I don't much care for the American Premium Pils that is mass produced in this country but a blanket statement that all beer tastes nasty doesn't carry much weight unless you've sampled all types of beer.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
This discussion is putting me in the mood for a cold one. I think I'll have a Harps.
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
I'm making this chili tonight....
Looking forward to it very much. Posted by Avin (Member # 7751) on :
This chili sounds very interesting. I actually make a chili almost exactly like this, without the coffee, but with a few other things added (some sausage meat, curry powder, corn, olives, more onions, and a bit of celery). I've never heard of coffee in chili, but plenty of recipes with beer (including mine). I will also have to try this sometime.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Woohoo! You must tell me how you like it, imogen.
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
We loved it.
It was *very* hot due to our insanely hot chilli bush but so good.
Dark, sweet, spicy, rich, YUM.
We have leftovers and we are glad.
I don't think I can ever go back to normal chili.
Thanks for the recipe.
[ April 08, 2005, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: imogen ]
Posted by TrapperKeeper (Member # 7680) on :
Seems long but worth the read!:
A Texas Chili Contest - If you can read this whole story without laughing then there's no hope for you. I was crying by the end. This is a scream!
Note: Please take time to read this slowly. If you pay attention to the first two judges, the reaction of the third judge is even better..
For those of you who have lived in Texas, you know how true this is. They actually have a Chili Cookout about the time Halloween comes around. It takes up a major portion of a parking lot at the San Antonio City park.
The notes are from an inexperienced Chili taster named Frank, who was visiting from Springfield, IL.
Frank: "Recently, I was honored to be selected as a judge at a Chili cookout. The original person called in sick at the last moment and I happened to be standing there at the judge's table asking for directions to the Coors Light truck, when the call came in. I was assured by the other two judges (Native Texans) that the chili wouldn't be all that spicy and, besides, they told me I could have free beer during the tasting, so I accepted."
Here are the scorecards from the advent: (Frank is Judge #3)
Chili # 1 Eddie's Maniac Monster Chili.... Judge # 1 -- A little too heavy on the tomato. Amusing kick. Judge # 2 -- Nice, smooth tomato flavor. Very mild. Judge # 3 -- (Frank) Holy fertilizer, what the hell is this stuff? You could remove dried paint from your driveway. Took me two beers to put the Flames out. I hope that's the worst one. These Texans are crazy.
Chili # 2 Austin's Afterburner Chili... Judge # 1 -- Smoky, with a hint of pork. Slight jalapeno tang. Judge # 2 -- Exciting BBQ flavor, needs more peppers to be taken seriously. Judge # 3 -- Keep this out of the reach of children. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to taste besides pain. I had to wave off two people who wanted to give me the Heimlich maneuver. They had to rush in more beer when they saw the look on my face.
Chili # 3 Ronny's Famous Burn Down the Barn Chili... Judge # 1 -- Excellent firehouse chili. Great kick. Needs more beans. Judge # 2 -- A bean less chili, a bit salty, good use of peppers. Judge # 3 -- Call the EPA. I've located a uranium spill. My nose feels like I have been snorting Drano. Everyone knows the routine by now. Get me more beer before I ignite. Barmaid pounded me on the back, now my backbone is in the front part of my chest. I'm getting fertilizer-faced from all of the beer...
Chili # 4 Dave's Black Magic... Judge # 1 -- Black bean chili with almost no spice. Disappointing. Judge # 2 -- Hint of lime in the black beans. Good side dish for fish or other mild foods, not much of a chili. Judge # 3 -- I felt something scraping across my tongue, but was unable to taste it. Is it possible to burn out taste buds? Sally, the barmaid, was standing behind me with fresh refills. That 300-LB woman is starting to look HOT...just like this nuclear waste I'm eating! Is chili an aphrodisiac?
Chili # 5 Lisa's Legal Lip Remover... Judge # 1 -- Meaty, strong chili. Cayenne peppers freshly ground, adding considerable kick. Very impressive. Judge # 2 -- Chili using shredded beef, could use more tomato. Must admit the cayenne peppers make a strong statement. Judge # 3 -- My ears are ringing, sweat is pouring off my forehead and I can no longer focus my eyes. I farted and four people behind me needed paramedics. The contestant seemed offended when I told her that her chili had given me brain damage. Sally saved my tongue from bleeding by pouring beer directly on it from the pitcher. I wonder if I'm burning my lips off. It really pisses me off that the other judges asked me to stop screaming. Screw those rednecks.
Chili # 6 Pam's Very Vegetarian Variety... Judge # 1 -- Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chili. Good balance of spices and peppers. Judge # 2 -- The best yet. Aggressive use of peppers, onions, and garlic. Superb. Judge # 3 -- My intestines are now a straight pipe filled with gaseous, sulfuric flames. I fertilizer on myself when I farted and I'm worried it will eat through the chair. No one seems inclined to stand behind me except that Sally. Can't feel my lips anymore. I need to wipe my ass with a snow cone.
Chili # 7 Carla's Screaming Sensation Chili... Judge # 1 -- A mediocre chili with too much reliance on canned peppers. Judge # 2 -- Ho hum, tastes as if the chef literally threw in a can of chili peppers at the last moment. **I should take note that I am worried about Judge # 3. He appears to be in a bit of distress as he is cursing uncontrollably. Judge # 3 -- You could put a grenade in my mouth, pull the pin, and I wouldn't feel a thing. I've lost sight in one eye, and the world sounds like it is made of rushing water. My shirt is covered with chili, which slid unnoticed out of my mouth. My pants are full of lava to match my shirt. At least during the autopsy, they'll know what killed me. I've decided to stop breathing it's too painful. Screw it; I'm not getting any oxygen anyway. If I need air, I'll just suck it in through the 4-inch hole in my stomach.
Chili # 8 Karen's Toenail Curling Chili... Judge # 1 -- The perfect ending, this is a nice blend chili. Not too bold but spicy enough to declare its existence. Judge # 2 -- This final entry is a good, balanced chili. Neither mild nor hot. Sorry to see that most of it was lost when judge #3 farted, passed out, fell over and pulled the chili pot down on top of himself. Not sure if he's going to make it. Poor feller, wonder how he'd have reacted to really hot chili?
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
ha! I have read that before.
I made a killer green chili(chili verde) the other day. It took forever, and then I burned it and salveged most of it, but boy was it good.
Posted by Scythrop (Member # 5731) on :
Primal Curve -
thanks from the bottom of my heart. That is an *awesome* chilli....
Now, I just need to detach my tongue from the roof of my mouth, where it seems to have adhered...
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I am going to try that one, too.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
No prob, imogen, Scythrop, I knew that, if I could get someone to make this chili, they could share in my joy. I was getting discouraged when all the Mormons started popping in and talking about how icky beer is and the evils of coffee. <sighs>
Posted by Vána (Member # 6593) on :
I am pretty certain that we'll be trying this chili - we'll let you know how we like it!
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
So, anyone else tried this?
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I am going to try it, PC. Do you want me to send you the green chili recpe? It is quite something. Great in burritos.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Or you could post it somewhere everyone can see it. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Well, Dags, I would, but I have to ask my friend first. It is so good, though! I have had green chili a few times, but I have never made it, and boy, it is a great use for my garden chiles this summer.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm going to try it.
Though, I don't have a coffeemaker. Any suggestions? I mean, I could instant coffee if need be.
As for using beer to cook, I'm all for it. I can't metabolize alcohol, so I'm left with just cooking with it, or quick sips from my sister's drinks or whatever.
And punwit had this amazing barley wine at Bobndanacon. Stuff like that makes me wish that they had a lactaid of sorts for those of us who lack the enzyme in their liver that metabolizes alcohol.
*sigh*
Anyrate. I believe I might be making this stuff today. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Yes, I noticed that the Stone brewing Company has a barley wine out now. I am going to try it.
A good nonalcoholic beer is Clausthaller. It is a lager, though. Best beer for cooking is a an ale, in my opinion. (Like Bass)
I think instant coffee would work, Mack.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Man...Gevalia..talk about good coffee.
I can't normally drink coffee like a grownup, so I don't even try. But that's one coffee I like. One of the monks would keep a pot on in campus ministry when I was in college. Mmmm.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
I'm making it next weekend, Your Glynness Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Decision made. I'm making it today. *makes out grocery list*
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
mack, you can take ground coffee, pour boiling water over it and leave it for a few minutes. That's the way it's usually drunk in Poland.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
eeew, coffee grinds.
though, I could pour hot water through a filter filled with ground coffee.
Hmmm.
The OTHER question is what will I do with the other beers? I bet you I can give them to a beer drinking friend when they visit.
Yup. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Yup!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Ingredients gotten.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
The coffee thing is easy. Just go to a coffee shop and buy a small cup of coffee to go. It's not like it has to go into the chili hot, it'll get heated up in there. I still recommend buying it reasonably close to the time you decide to start cooking it. That way you have a fresh brewed cup.
Elizabeth, I would love to get your green chili recipe. It sounds fantastic.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I also got carded. I ALWAYS get carded. Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
What kind of beer did you get?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Beck's Dark
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Niiice. Too bad you don't get to enjoy it while you're cooking.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I will send it, Primal Curve, and I will send it to anyone who asks. I just don't want to post his recipe on the Internet.
Posted by B-HAX (Member # 6640) on :
Is there a non Alcoholic dark beer? I'm allergic...
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
No KIDDING. I notified my beer drinking friends and whoever visits first gets dibs.
The chili is now simmering. Should I have the lid on or off?
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Off. At least, I didn't cover it. It may need to reduce some.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Good to know. Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Ha! And she told me to quit lifting the lid to smell it.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Smells good, don't it? Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
--I--
(THAT was to Nathan)
[ April 09, 2005, 04:05 PM: Message edited by: mackillian ]
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Hmmm... where's Ralphie these days? She'd probably like this chili.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Oh, a little shredded cheddar cheese and sliced peppers really do well on top of this dish. Just FYI.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Liz, can I get it?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
We had the shredded cheese.
That was some damn good chili.
Though, it makes a TON, so we have lots that'll be going into the freezer.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Yeah, it does yield a lot of chili. I'm glad you liked it.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I made this today. Haven't tasted it yet, though.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I hate coffee though...
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
You made it but you haven't tasted it yet? Hmmm... have you now?
Kwea, it doesn't taste that much like coffee. I'm not a huge coffee drinker and I liked this chili. My wife hates coffee and she loved it.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I also dislike black coffee. You can't really taste it.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
As a passionate lover of coffee, I find it odd that so many people on this thread are maligning it. Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Would it help to know that I WISH I liked coffee?
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
My father laughed when I went into the Army...he said that I would have no choice but to like coffee by the time I got out.
I did order coffee fairly often when I was in the field, but only becaue holding teh cup warmed up my hands on those cold, snowy MO winter mornings. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Kama, I will send it! Anyone else?
Tom, what coffee maker do you use? I am thinking of going with the French press.
Posted by Scythrop (Member # 5731) on :
[Imogen here]
We made (probably hideously inauthentic) quesadillos (sp?) last night with the some of the left-overs: I sandwhiched the chilli and grated cheese between two tortillas and dry fryed them until they were all crispy on the outside.
Served with home-made guacamole and sour cream.
They were gooood. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
That's a chimichanga, sort of. A chimichanga is a deep fried burrito, but yours was in quesadilla form. I guess that makes it a chimichangadilla. And it sounds really good!
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
The Kama family greatly approves of PC's chili.
Hmm, Liz, did you maybe send me yours? I never got it, and I remember I had the same problem getting lusti'd carrot cake recipe. She sent it, and it never came. Anyway, could you pretty please send it to me at cammyk AT interia DOT pl ? This one should work fine.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I didn't know AI programs ate chili....
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
She didn't say she ate it. She said she made it for her family.
I hadn't realized K.A.M.A. was a kitchen/household program. That's sweet.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
MMMmmm... Chili... I should make it this week.
Glad you liked it, Kama!
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
No, Kama, there was no mistaken technology at work, just me not sending it yet!
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
This afternoon I made this chili and it was once again completely awesome. I recently got a very nice chef's knife that I love and was looking for a recipe with a decent amount of chopping involved.
I used only 3 cans of beans (2 dark red kidney and 1 black) and a bit extra of each type of meat. I think I will keep it that way from here on out.
Anyway, just wanted to remind everyone to make this chili!
Posted by Marek (Member # 5404) on :
I should send this recipe to my father-in-law, he loves making food with longer recipes, or lots of ingrediants
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I think I will try this, as I have been thinking about it for a while now. I will go lighter on the beans, as my wife doesn't care for them though.
I'll let you know what we thought of it, although I hope you are right about the coffee taste not being strong, as we both HATE coffee.
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
I used to eat things cooked with alcohol, on the theory that the alcohol all cooked out, then I read something very convincing that said it really doesn't. I mean, there is a fairly substantial amount left, not trace amounts, in most dishes. So now I don't have coq au vin anymore or rum cake or kahlua truffles or whatever. Tasty but not non-alcoholic.
Vanilla flavoring, though, is fine. I guess there's really no way to keep the Word of Wisdom in a way that's completely consistent. Maybe that's the lesson we learn by grappling with these seemingly minor issues.
I'll say, though, that giving up caffeine was extremely wise for me to do, when I finally got around to it. I quit coffee and tea long ago, but diet cokes much more recently. With no caffeine intake at all I sleep much more deeply and peacefully, I wake more rested, and my fatigue-fibromyalgia-inflammation-etc. stuff is much less troublesome. Sometimes when I really need extra energy, for instance when I have to travel for work or if I'm sick and exhausted and must push on through, I can drink a diet coke or two and make it through. The trouble is then that I have to pay it back later. There is the inevitable crash, with withdrawal headaches and much rest required, to catch back up.
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
quote:I'll let you know what we thought of it, although I hope you are right about the coffee taste not being strong, as we both HATE coffee.
It's not.
Just don't overdo the chocolate, even a little bit - it flattens the flavors out pretty severely.
(I also do a low-bean version, as Squish doesn't like beans either. )
Posted by BlueWizard (Member # 9389) on :
Off on a coffee tangent. The 'Words of Wisdom' say no hot drinks, and someone decided that was coffee and tea, but not necessarily caffeine. So...does that include ice tea and ice coffee? They certainly aren't hot drinks or strong drink. So, it would seem not to apply.
Just curious.
steve/bluewizard
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Tell you what, Anne Kate: use O'Douls and a cup of strong-brewed decaf and you should be able to purge any lingering guilt. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I am glad this recipe resurfaced! I am going to make it today or tomorrow. I meant to back in, let's see, 2005(!) but never did.
I like a chili that is dark and rich, and this sounds like it. Lately, my favorite chili is actually the "Two Alarm Chili" you can find in the Mexican section of the store, along with taco mix. It is really good.
Posted by Paul Goldner (Member # 1910) on :
I've used that two alarm in my own recipe for a long time. Its a great seasoning packet, and almost always comes out as very tasty, easy to make chili.
I made this coffee/beer/chocolate chili a while ago, and everyone loved it.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Is it similar to the Two-Alarm? It just seems like it would be, somehow.
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
It sounds interesting. I definitely don't have room in our refrigerator for such an enormous quantity of anything right now (and chiles are hard to acquire in NZ), but I might give it a try when I get back to the States in late March.
I've made sauces flavored with beer, and a few recipes flavored with coffee (usually desserts.) My general feeling is that beer, coffee (when not making something inherently coffee-flavored) and chocolate (when not making dessert) are somewhat unpredictable flavors; combining them is all but certain to make a flavor I'm not going to wrap my mind around before I actually sample it.
I'll have to get some meat-eating friends over to help consume the results, though.
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