contrary to popular belief in some parts of the country, it IS a Part of the USA, and is in fact the 48th state! And you really don't need a passport to cross its borders!
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
I have a sister who lives in New Mexico. I have visited her. I have stayed in a Residence Inn in Santa Fe. I have driven through that teensy little corner of New Mexico that keeps El Paso from being part of Arizona. I have driven through Durango and seen Four Corners. I know New Mexico. New Mexico is my friend. And I don't remember seeing you there.
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
And Arizona was the 48th state, just in case it matters. They were very proud of it when I was in junior high in Mesa. Of course, now that I think of it, they might have been lying, the way North Carolina claims to have had something to do with inventing flight, besides being the runway.
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
Are you sure you didn't see me? I'm the 5'5" NAtive lady with long dark hair and dark brown eyes. Think hard now. Posted by urbanX (Member # 1450) on :
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
*snort*
I visited New Mexico on a 3-week western-American train trip with my family about 8 years ago. We stopped off in Albequerque and I got a burrito.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
My cousin used to be the sheriff of Albequerque.
Never been there though. I hear they have nice cacti.
Edit to add:
quote: I'm the 5'5" NAtive lady with long dark hair and dark brown eyes.
Hmm, maybe I should visit sometime soon.
[ April 03, 2005, 01:54 AM: Message edited by: Lyrhawn ]
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
You are right of course, NM 47, AZ 48,Alaska 49, Hawaii 50
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
The Old Broad's Cafe in Old Town Albuquerque serves the best hot cocoa and cinnamon buns you could ever hope to get past your lips.
[ April 03, 2005, 01:57 AM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
Posted by urbanX (Member # 1450) on :
Great use of the "you're no Jack Kennedy" defense Mr. Card.
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
Arizona became a state on February 14th, 1912 and we are very proud of that fact.
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
quote: The Old Broad's Cafe in Old Town Albuquerque serves the best hot cocoa and cinnamon buns you could ever hope to get past your lips.
and very nearby is the Natural History Museum where they have a T-Rex Skull! Can't get better than that!
Posted by HesterGray (Member # 7384) on :
I know this song about Albuquerque by Weird Al. It's cleverly titled, "Albuquerque." I sing it with terrific enthusiasm, even though I've never been to New Mexico.
quote: And one day if you happen to wake up and find yourself in an existential quandaring full of loathing and self-doubt and racked with the pain and isolation of your pitiful, meaningless existance, at least you can take a small bit of comfort in knowing that somewhere out there in this crazy, old, mixed-up universe of ours, there's still a little place called ALBUQUERQUE!
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
Well, It's not THAT little, epecially in comparison to like... Truth or Consequences
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
Why stop with Hawaii?
Puerto Rico 51, Guam 52, Alberta 53, British Columbia, renamed Columbia, 54, West Texas, North Texas, South Texas, Exxon, and Texaco as 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, only because Texas was dissolved as it exercised its constitutional right to divide itself into up to five states, we have to have a huge footnote explaining that now all the numbering is off by one. And then Saskatchewan and Manitoba combined as "North Minnesota" make 60.
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
quote: Why stop with Hawaii?
Because it is sort of 1am and i DON'T have jetlag and am feeling lazy.
Because Hawaii is a very nice place to stop, especially the Volcanoes National Park, and that beach where the sea turtles nest.
Because I don't have any memorized after Hawaii.
Edit my Mom would love to read that British Columbia was renamed Columbia and made a United State
[ April 03, 2005, 03:11 AM: Message edited by: mimsies ]
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
quote:Can't get better than that!
Word to your mama. *nods
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
quote: Hmm, maybe I should visit sometime soon.
HEY! You should ALL come April 29-30 to the Gathering of Nations I will likely be dancing, but my little boy surely will (with the Tiny Tots).
It'd be fun!
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
I have never been to New Mexico. But I used to have an aunt and uncle living there. Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
New Mexico is part of the US?
Yeah, right.
Next thing you'll tell me is that Canada is not.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Good to see that Quebec ain't on that list, Uncle Orson. If it was, British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba would all leave. Fast. Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Uncle Orson please do not give Tom Delay any ideas. Texas breaks up into 5 states, with wierd borders to match voting preferences, and we have 8 more Republican Senators.
[ April 03, 2005, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Dan_raven ]
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Pfft, Quebec would never be an American state.
First of all we hate the French.
Second, Quebec is too good for us.
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
I now live in Farmington, NM, near Four Corners and 3 hours from ABQ.
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
New Mexico is very nice Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
Hey, the point about eight more senators from Texas is EXACTLY the reason Texas was admitted that way. Texas's "independence" from Mexico was all about slavery, and Texas insisted on the assurance that slavery would always be allowed in the U.S. before joining. Their guarantee was: If it ever looked as if some anti-slavery party was going to take over Congress, Texas could divide itself and put more pro-slavery senators in to block such a thing.
Wouldn't it be supremely ironic if the very party that Texas most feared (once it was formed), the Republican Party, now dominated Texas so that that ancient provision in the constitution was invoked to GIVE Republicans veto-proof control of the senate?
Let's start this as a rumor and see how long before it hits the news!
So here it is: pass it on.
"According to rumors circulating on the internet, Tom DeLay is plotting to invoke a little-known provision in the Texas Constitution, divide the state in five carefully gerrymandered parts, and put eight new Republicans into the Senate. It would give George W. Bush's judicial nominees a virtually filibuster-proof Senate - and guarantee Republican control of the Senate for many years to come."
Cut and paste, and let's see if we can start a groundswell of OUTRAGE against the evil Republican plan <grin>.
Posted by 1lobo1 (Member # 7762) on :
Born and Raised in Albuquerque....anyone have quesions or something?
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
I drove to Albequerque this past spring break. Couldn't stay long, though.
quote: Puerto Rico 51, Guam 52, Alberta 53, British Columbia, renamed Columbia, 54, West Texas, North Texas, South Texas, Exxon, and Texaco as 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, only because Texas was dissolved as it exercised its constitutional right to divide itself into up to five states, we have to have a huge footnote explaining that now all the numbering is off by one. And then Saskatchewan and Manitoba combined as "North Minnesota" make 60.
Ouch. Ten new states, and not one of them helps DC.
Posted by Aunty Eem (Member # 7743) on :
I am from Nortern Minnesota-- I don't think we get any tax break from Saskatchewan or Manitoba--I sure could use one
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
I lived in Clovis New Mexico for 3 years. My Jr. High years.
Many many nights playing Goldeneye and Super Smash Bro's.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:New states, of convenient size, not exceeding four in number, in addition to said state of Texas, and having sufficient population, may hereafter, by the consent of said state, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the federal constitution.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I have friends in NM, and have visited a couple of times. I liked it. In fact, I owe said friends a call...
Posted by 1lobo1 (Member # 7762) on :
Sorry T-Smith.....not much happening in Clovis other than dairies and high school football....not that there's anything wrong with that....
They are building the largest cheddar cheese plant in North America outside of Clovis as I type....
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Ah, high school football. My sister was on the high school drill team. This thread has actually made me miss some of my friends from Clovis. Dallen and Josiah and Matt. I wonder what those dudes are up to. I bet if I called, they wouldn't be there any more.
Sad.
Those were the days of Star Craft: Brood Wars, and N64. I must admit there were some fond memories.
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
"Ooooo! There's a NEW mexico!" - Homer
Texas will never split apart. Being "big" is built into their state-pride and no amount of political advantage will change that.
On the other hand, I would love to see a "Missouri Compromise" type situation with Texas and California both splitting into 3s. It would maintain the balance in the senate and Los Angeles could stop stealing our bridge tolls.
Pix
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
OSC is my favorite poster, and no it's not because I'm trying to be a suckup. It's because of comments like this:
quote: I know New Mexico. New Mexico is my friend. And I don't remember seeing you there.
Posted by 1lobo1 (Member # 7762) on :
New Mexico is a wonderful state, although the statistics wouldn't reveal that...we are constantly near the bottom in every category concerning human development, medication, education, etc...but we try! (well, actually, we don't try...we have a terrible legislature -- and not becuase of politics or values -- they are just not very good...we are also very rural although there are some great cities and towns and villiages...'Burque, Santa Fe, Taos, Clayton, Raton, Chama, Roswell, even Las Cruces has cleaned itself up). There is a wonderful mix of tradition and cosmopolitan...old hispanic and native american cultures (the oldest Capital city in the US - Santa Fe)...and the food - nothing like New Mexican food...(mmmmm...green chile....).... There's an entertaining mix of wacko lefties in Santa Fe and Taos and nutjob Righties in Catron County (the county contains a preamble of "we the people of catron county do find the federal government a clear and present danger to the citizens of this county" (paraphrase)...and everything in between....Ranchers, Dairymen, Farmers, Intel Chip Makers, PhD Physisists (sp?), artists, craftsmen...you name it, we have it....we even have the hanta virus!
Visit the Carlsbad Cavers, White Sands, Acoma "the Sky City", Chaco Canyon, Shiprock, The Trinity Site (1st A-Bomb), the UFO Museum.....
I recommend that everyone on these boards makes it a point to go to the International Balloon Fiesta in Albuquerque at least once in their lives (usually the second week of October). It is truly one of the few purely human events that are beautiful and aesthetic and nothing more - one of those things that makes you think, "yeah, humans can be pretty cool now and again."
[ April 11, 2005, 07:03 PM: Message edited by: 1lobo1 ]
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
I wouldn't exactly brag about Shiprock. It's like bragging about Gallup.
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
I lived in Los Alamos, NM from 1985 to 1991, and two of my children were born there. I loved it there and still have friends there. I miss the food something terrible.
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
quote:I wouldn't exactly brag about Shiprock. It's like bragging about Gallup.
[ April 11, 2005, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: IanO ]
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Ah, someone from Farmington. If I recall correctly, thats right next to Clovis, correct?
Posted by 1lobo1 (Member # 7762) on :
Shiprock the Rock...not Shiprock the city....ha ha ha...
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
No idea. I've only lived here for 2 years and don't travel around NM too much (except for ABQ and locally.) Farmington is really a nice place to live, though.
Lived 3 hours away in Kayenta, AZ for 5 years, though. Back then (12 years ago), I hated going to Farmington and thought it was a dump.
Go figure.
Posted by 1lobo1 (Member # 7762) on :
Farmington and Clovis are on opposite sides of the state....(unless you were being sarcastic...)
Farmington is getting better...but there are more oil and natural gas wells there than people...
[ April 11, 2005, 07:27 PM: Message edited by: 1lobo1 ]
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
No. I swear there is some sity right next to Clovis thats close sounding to Farmington. ::Shrug::
Posted by ctm (Member # 6525) on :
Several years ago I drove form Wisconsin to New Mexico with my 2 kids and my mom. We had a great time, went to Santa Fe then down to Carlsbad then to Alamogordo-- that drive was so awesome, through Cloudcroft, just incredible scenery and changes in terrain-- then to Silver City, where we stayed in this sweet little house called The Guest House. They had down pillows and comforters and we slept with the windows open, all snuggled in. I have never slept so well in my life before or since. Then over the mountains into AZ and then back into NM and headed home.
My son has wanted to move to NM ever since.
Posted by 1lobo1 (Member # 7762) on :
Portales or Tucumcari maybe...Fort Sumner?
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Lets see, Portales was south, and Fort Sumner was west. The city I'm thinking of is right ont he TX boarder, so is east of Clovis. ::shrug::
No worries.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
I have driven through NM once. I really don't think I'll ever visit it. It looks a lot like Arizona (...without the Grand Canyon or the painted desert or the petrified forest or Sedona red rock or Ponderosa pines or people or...) which I've lived in my whole life.
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
I do miss those amazing sunsets. Sunsets with mountains are one thing, but southern sunsets reach into the soul.
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
Da_Goat
Driving through NM on I-40 doesn't come close to giving you an idea of what the rest of the state is like.
I'm just saying...
And I always HATED Farmington. We always drive through there as fast as we can.
Posted by 1lobo1 (Member # 7762) on :
I'm telling you all (with all the credibility capital one has after years of lurking and 10 posts to his name)...Come for the Balloon Fiesta...you will not reget it...
Posted by Brian J. Hill (Member # 5346) on :
New Mexico provided the location for The Greatest Road Trip Of All Time. When I was in West Texas performing a play, a few of my cast mates and I decided to go to Carlsbad Caverns. We then extended that idea to include White Sands and the UFO Museum in Roswell. The trick was that we only had one day off from the show, so we had 38 hours to do it in, and the driving alone was about 16 total actors.
Nonetheless, the Guadalupe Mountains were absolutely spectacular at dawn, and White Sands is gorgeous (go in the morning.) Carlsbad Caverns were breathtaking, and Roswell is just plain weird. So yeah. Go New Mexico!
Posted by Stan the man (Member # 6249) on :
Been out there in 1995, 1997, and 1998. Loved it. Would like to go back. However, it is a long time from now that I would be spending more than a day or two in NM.
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
quote: I'm telling you all (with all the credibility capital one has after years of lurking and 10 posts to his name)...Come for the Balloon Fiesta...you will not reget it...
I still maintain that it si the Gathering of nations that should not be missed.
Posted by Speed 2: Cruise Control (Member # 6765) on :
I just found this thread. I moved to Albuquerque less than three months after it was around. Just thought I'd let you know that you're not the only Jatraquero here now.
Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
Ahh, good to see people discussing areas at least near my college stomping grounds.
Though I am disheartened not to see someone mention Ruidoso / Cloudcroft. Both enjoyable mountain towns (well, one is more of a villiage), and they have some spectacular views over White Sands and the Trinity test site. And of course there's always the VLA to gawk at if you're driving through Soccoro.
Though the last trip through didn't involve fond memories... then again, any 16 hour drive which involves 14 hours of rain and snow wouldn't be viewed positively, no matter where it was going through.
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