Welcome to the most hateful 'progressive' countries out there.
If there's one thing the last US election proved, besides that America DOES, in fact, want Bush - it's that homosexuality has no place in America. I find this, firstly, completely disgraceful. Secondly, I cannot helpt but look at Americans, through the actions of their politicians, with contempt and scorn.
Is the issue of gay marriage an example of floccinaucinihilipilification? I don't think so. I think the issue is serious, is important, and is not being treated properly.
So welcome to America. We accept you, unless you're gay! Gay people go to hell!
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Um yeah, feel better now?
Or do you actually expect anyone to discuss anything with you?
-Bok
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
Why would you not want to discuss this?
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Well, I didn't personally think you wanted to discuss, just pontificate.
-Bok
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
Just because I view myself as beign on a higher moral ground then America doesn't mean I won't stoop to have a conversation with an American. Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
And that attitude is why no one will discuss it with you.
Besides, this is a topic that's been beaten to death. Do you have anything new to add?
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
Yeah, because there was such a clear majority during the last election. What was it, something like 90%+ for Bush? Yeah, that's it.
And of COURSE, any conservative who doesn't believe homosexuals should be legally allowed to marry MUST be gay-hating bigots. Because there could not possibly be any other reason to believe that way.
It's all SO clear to me now.
-Katarain
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
If my country was committing human rights violations I'd talk about it.
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
And. Bush won a clear majority. There's no denying that. You can't hide behind the 'Hate the white house, not Amerians' like you did in his first 4 years.
Also, and I want to make this very clear: any conservative who doesn't believe homosexuals should be legally allowed to marry is a gay-hating bigot. It's that simple.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:any conservative who doesn't believe homosexuals should be legally allowed to marry is a gay-hating bigot. It's that simple.
Wow. Will you use your psychic powers to next determine why people oppose or support minimum sentences for convicted murderers?
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
quote:Also, and I want to make this very clear: any conservative who doesn't believe homosexuals should be legally allowed to marry is a gay-hating bigot. It's that simple.
I see the world differently now. Thank you for clearing things up. Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
::Throws confetti::
Hurrah for gay people!
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
Sure thing, big fella. It all depends on who the individual assosiates themselves with more: the convict or the victem. And if you think that should be an easy desision, you're very wrong.
If I killed someone I'd want my sentence to be short. If someone was coming after me next I'd want his sentence to be long.
But please, stick to the topic at hand. In case you needed a reminder: it's your country being a disgrace.
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
What country are you from?
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Actually, the topic at hand is your inability to talk rationally or politely on a complex, controversial subject, as well as your incredible arrogance in thinking you understand the motivations of millions of people.
Posted by Portabello (Member # 7710) on :
quote:any conservative who doesn't believe homosexuals should be legally allowed to marry is a gay-hating bigot. It's that simple.
At least with these tactics, you'll never have a real discussion with anybody who disagress with you.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Which means, Port, he'll never be wrong.
In the crayon colored corner of his world, I suppose.
-Trevor
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
That's right crayons!
Because you're a child!
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
quote:What country are you from?
Sadly, he's Canadian. Puts the "Canadians are nice and polite" myth to rest, eh?
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
aaron:
If you would like to have a serious discussion on any topic on this forum, you need to seriously examine the way you open your discussion topic and the tone of your post.
At the present, you have been behaving like a troll.
[ April 11, 2005, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: Ela ]
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Why must we feed the troll? Clearly, all he wants is attention. Can we not post on this offensive topic any more and just wait for it to be deleted. We shouldn't even be discussing this.
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
quote: If I killed someone I'd want my sentence to be short. If someone was coming after me next I'd want his sentence to be long.
And he expects to be taken seriously.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Eh, it's a slow post day.
At least he's more entertaining than Irami.
-Trevor
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
Sounds like a pretty logical statement to me. Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
This thread has recieved nothing but sarcasm. No one has addressed the answer at hand. I hardly think that it is my fault that no conversation has come from this thread yet.
"Dag" - was this little comment of yours you talking "rationally or politely on a complex, controversial subject"?
quote: Wow. Will you use your psychic powers to next determine why people oppose or support minimum sentences for convicted murderers?
I'm not arrogant because I'm not Amiercan, I'm thankful.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
In all seriousness SA, what response do you expect and/ want from your post? Are you trying to convince people, do you want people to post in agreement? What is it that you think you can accomplish through that post? I'm really asking.
Hobbes Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Wow, that was about 7 posts between when I clicked "post reply" and when my post appeared. I wonder how many this time.
[EDIT: Fine, none. Blah. Everyone just go ahead and stop posting after I do, I don't mind]
Hobbes
[ April 11, 2005, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: Hobbes ]
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:"Dag" - was this little comment of yours you talking "rationally or politely on a complex, controversial subject"?
Nope, because my comment wasn't about a complex or controversial subject. It was about you: simplistic, and non-controversial, since almost everyone seems to think much the same thing about you.
Dagonee
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
I'd settle for an opinion.
So far the most interesting response has been from "Teshi" - who has shown that I may be hitting rather close to the mark with my gay-hating bigot remark. This topic of conversation is, according to him/her: "offensive".
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
quote: Eh, it's a slow post day.
At least he's more entertaining than Irami.
-Trevor
Well, this guy could learn a few things from Irami. I haven't read all of Irami's posts about things, but I have noticed his views are at least well thought out and he's capable of an intelligent conversation--even if it seems nobody agrees with him.
-Katarain
Posted by Portabello (Member # 7710) on :
edit: 'cuz I shouldn't feed the trolls.
[ April 11, 2005, 05:01 PM: Message edited by: Portabello ]
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
EDIT: If I'm an American gay-hating conservative bigot, someone goofed.
[ April 11, 2005, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: Teshi ]
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
sexy_aaron, the mistake of religious people isn't that they hold homosexuality as evil. Good and evil are not exactly set in stone. But that they feel the sanctity of marriage is more important then the happiness of homosexuals.
I'd like to see some christians get down and wash some damn feet.
(And yes, that is an opinion, before angry people get angry.)
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
I sympathize with Aaron. I feel rage about this every day. I say let him vent for a little. It is a terrible situation.
Now Aaron, after the declaration of your standings and your raging at the world of sin, we must calm down and talk to folks who think differently, and there are quite a few on Hatrack as in the World, with respect. They are still human and believe they are doing the right thing. And of course the fastest way to make people clamp up and ignore you is to be nothing but militant.
I myself am good Hatrack buddies with many people here whose religion says being gay is a sin, or at least the act is a sin. They are still great people. And THAT is the key. Being friends with people…to show them that YOU are human as well. That will change the world.
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
[This post has been deleted for being imbecilic and moronic. Sexy_aaron, you'd better change your screen name. There's nothing LESS sexy than the behavior you exhibit in Hatack River.]
[ April 12, 2005, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: KathrynHJanitor ]
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
quote:Sadly, he's Canadian. Puts the "Canadians are nice and polite" myth to rest, eh?
I'm going to assume he's the exception that proves the rule.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
quote:You are responding to me, not my views for a reason. The reason is that you are a gay-hating bigot.
This is the first time I chuckled at anything on Hatrack in a long time. Too long really. Welcome back Chuckles, we missed you.
Hobbes Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
Guess what not responding means, Dag. Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
I don't see why people reject gay people so much. What's the big idea? I'm not gay or anything, but I don't think a person's sexual taste has anything to do with judging them. Conservatives... Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Well if you want to respond to something, try this: why do you think you can engender rational discussion with someone by starting off calling them hateful bigots?
Hobbes Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Guess what not responding means, Dag.
Does it mean I'm a hateful bigot?
Or could it possibly mean that I think you're acting in ignorant manner with no clue about what anyone else in this thread actually thinks about gay marriage rights?
Dagonee
[ April 11, 2005, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
Actually, they called themselves that. This is my first post. I think you'll find it was someone else who called themselves gay-hating bigots through my mouth.
quote:Welcome to the most hateful 'progressive' countries out there.
If there's one thing the last US election proved, besides that America DOES, in fact, want Bush - it's that homosexuality has no place in America. I find this, firstly, completely disgraceful. Secondly, I cannot helpt but look at Americans, through the actions of their politicians, with contempt and scorn.
Is the issue of gay marriage an example of floccinaucinihilipilification? I don't think so. I think the issue is serious, is important, and is not being treated properly.
So welcome to America. We accept you, unless you're gay! :DGay people go to hell!
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
quote:sexy_aaron, the mistake of religious people isn't that they hold homosexuality as evil.
Wrong, I, as a religious person, do.
quote:Good and evil are not exactly set in stone.
Strike 2: It is set in stone. Stone.. tablets. *laugh* Okay, I hope I'm not the only one that laughed.
quote:But that they feel the sanctity of marriage is more important then the happiness of homosexuals.
Strike 3: Yooooou're OUT!
quote:I'd like to see some christians get down and wash some damn feet.
Opinion Schmopinion. Hmph.
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
Dag, people from Veeerrrginya don't get the benifit of the doubt. You're a bigot until you prove otherwise.
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
quote:sexy_aaron, the mistake of religious people isn't that they hold homosexuality as evil.
Wrong, I, as a religious person, do.
quote:Good and evil are not exactly set in stone.
Strike 2: It is set in stone. Stone.. tablets. *laugh* Okay, I hope I'm not the only one that laughed.
quote:But that they feel the sanctity of marriage is more important then the happiness of homosexuals.
Strike 3: Yooooou're OUT!
quote:I'd like to see some christians get down and wash some damn feet.
Opinion Schmopinion. Hmph.
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
quote:sexy_aaron, the mistake of religious people isn't that they hold homosexuality as evil.
Wrong, I, as a religious person, do.
quote:Good and evil are not exactly set in stone.
Strike 2: It is set in stone. Stone.. tablets. *laugh* Okay, I hope I'm not the only one that laughed.
quote:But that they feel the sanctity of marriage is more important then the happiness of homosexuals.
Strike 3: Yooooou're OUT!
quote:I'd like to see some christians get down and wash some damn feet.
Opinion Schmopinion. Hmph.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Do you deny posting "Also, and I want to make this very clear: any conservative who doesn't believe homosexuals should be legally allowed to marry is a gay-hating bigot. It's that simple."?
Dagonee
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Ohh?
quote:Also, and I want to make this very clear: any conservative who doesn't believe homosexuals should be legally allowed to marry is a gay-hating bigot. It's that simple.
What did you think would come from those two sentances?
Hobbes Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
You said it. I agreed.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Well for one, I certainly did it say it, two, they were being sarcastic, and three, why would you want to state it that way at all? What do you feel langauge like that is doing for your argument?
Hobbes Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:You said it. I agreed.
I did? Where?
Dagonee
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Dag, people from Veeerrrginya don't get the benifit of the doubt. You're a bigot until you prove otherwise.
Oh, and I find this quite an amusing statement from someone who is apparantly opposed to bigotry.
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
1. Not you. 2. They were being sarcastic. I wasn't. 3. I don't mince words.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
quote: Wrong, I, as a religious person, do.
I never said religious people don't believe homosexuality to be evil. I said that isn't their mistake.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
4. You don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Well along with not mincing words, you didn't answer my question.
Hobbes Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
I'm racially -err, sateially - profiling you. Deal.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
sexy_aaron, you're being an idiot. Seriously.
I suggest, before you post any more, that you click on the search link above and look for "gay marriage" or "civil union" and skim through some of the many, many discussions we've had here. Look particularly for Dag's thoughts on the subject.
Screaming at us for being bigots and then screaming at us again for not taking you seriously will not get you very far. There have been some excellent, open-minded and thoughtful discussion on gay marriage here, discussions that generally manage to skip past most of the kneejerk reactions and reasoning from all sides of the argument. I urge you to read them.
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
Also, it answered fine. What will this do to your argument? It will show I don't mince words.
Posted by sexy_aaron (Member # 7312) on :
[This has been removed as being offensive.]
Sweetpea, you're THIS close to being banned.
[ April 11, 2005, 05:56 PM: Message edited by: KathrynHJanitor ]
Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
[This post has been removed because it is not in harmony with Hatrack River comportment. Stray, if you want to continue posting here, Sexyaaron's tone is NOT what you want to emulate.]
[ April 11, 2005, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: KathrynHJanitor ]
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
quote:What do you feel langauge like that is doing for your argument?
Hobbes Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
I think people need to calm down and settle this over a pint. Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
Ah, thank you. I was wondering if I should bother continuing.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
quote:SA's obviously just poking the anthill in order to watch us flail and scurry. No one can possibly be as stupid as he's coming off here.
Indeed.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
I just can't get over this thread.
Posted by Portabello (Member # 7710) on :
Two penguins were standing on an iceberg. One penguin says to the other "Hey! You look like you are wearing a tuxedo!" The other penguin says "How do you know that I'm not?"
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Nah, the people in Virginia are okay. It's those in Guam that you have to worry about.
What ARE they up to, anyway?
-Bok
Posted by Portabello (Member # 7710) on :
quote:[This has been removed as being offensive.]
Sweetpea, you're THIS close to being banned.
I can't say that I'm surprised.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
How many IBM execs does it take to change a light bulb? Well none, they just upgrade the standard condition to darkness.
Hobbes Posted by KathrynHJanitor (Member # 48) on :
This topic is CLOSED. What is this, a picnic of trolls?
I would delete it immediately, except that I'm hoping sexyaaron and Stray will see my comments to them.
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