quote:Profile for Papa Janitor Member Status: Moderator Member Number: 7795 Registered: April 12, 2005 Posts: 0 Email Address: papajanitor@hatrack.com
Papa Moose, maybe?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
He probably needs mod privileges to deal with the landmark forum.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Wow. That was not under the radar for long at all.
Added: Not that I know anything. I'm just impressed by the detective skills and/or OCD displayed in the question.
[ April 13, 2005, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
Well, it is listed on the main forum page. . . Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*sigh* Yes, it is.
...does that mean no more Kathryn Kidd? Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
It would be sacrilegious to have anyone else go by anything close to Papa Moose.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
So, does Papa Janitor eat at Papa John's?
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
The really scary thought, Papa Moose posting only as often as Kathryn Janitor did.
The upside, maybe Kathryn Kidd would post more often.
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
You're Kidding.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Cool! If asked to choose one person who I think would make a good hatrack mod, Papa Moose would definitely be on my short list.
He'll do a great job. Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
quote: So, does Papa Janitor eat at Papa John's?
Moreso than Papa Moose?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
And does he wear PJs?
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I hope recent ridiculousness didn't drive her away.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Elizabeth, she's leaving Nauvoo, too, and it has to do with her schedule being busy and having to work.
[ April 13, 2005, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: kacard ]
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Good. Then she is moving on for a good reason.
Edit: And I think Papa Moose will do a very fine job.
[ April 13, 2005, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: Elizabeth ]
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
That there is a link to Nauvoo on this thread would make me very nervous, if I believed for a second that the universe were not capricious. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
It makes me nervous, too - KQ, we are not supposed to link to Nauvoo thread directly from Hatrack.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Why not? Is there another place we are not supposed to link to? (I mean, other than porn sites and stuff?)
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
We're not? Why?
Posted by Vána (Member # 6593) on :
I get the impression it's supposed to be secret, but I'm not sure why. Do you have to apply to post there? I've never tried, I have no idea, but I know that, for example, my sorority has a password protected forum where we can talk about stuff. Maybe it's sorta like that. Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Because Starways Congress said no.
Actually, it has to do with the terms of service. To prevent the anti-Mormon hulabaloo that comes up in LDS discussions, you have to sign a code of conduct to register at Nauvoo.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Yet it is OK to have a link to the site on the front page of this forum?
Posted by Vána (Member # 6593) on :
Yeah...I have no idea. I was only guessing. I'm not LDS, and I've never been to Nauvoo before today, when I followed Tom's link.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think it's the linking to specific threads.
Specifically, they want avoid one forum poring over and criticizing the posts on another forum, especially when the forum under scrutiny is supposed to be a safe and warm place where people don't have to be on the defensive.
[ April 13, 2005, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I apologize. I was never made aware of this policy, and we link to Hatrack on Nauvoo all the time. Posted by Kasie H (Member # 2120) on :
Just out of curiosity, is the mod position paid?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"I apologize. I was never made aware of this policy, and we link to Hatrack on Nauvoo all the time."
That's because we don't need a safe harbor, I guess. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Or because people get banned for mocking on Nauvoo, but they don't here. Posted by OrneryMOd (Member # 5242) on :
I don't get paid.
OrneryMod
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"Or because people get banned for mocking on Nauvoo..."
Hm. I submit that someone is more likely to be banned from this site for repeatedly mocking Nauvoo than someone is likely to be banned from Nauvoo for repeatedly mocking something at Hatrack. As a specific example, I've seen criticisms of and generalizations about non-Mormons at Nauvoo that I believe would not be permitted if directed toward Mormons and posted to Hatrack.
I understand why this is, mind you. It's peaceful and harmonious and beautiful and all that precisely because the acrimony is directed for the most part at people who can't defend themselves; this tends to make the acrimony itself considerably less acrimonious, since it passes without comment.
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BTW, let me just say that if Moose is being paid anything decent for this that I'm extraordinarily happy for him, as this may well turn out to be a best-of-both-worlds situation for his family. *grin* But if he is, he's going to have to start hosting his own barbecues.
[ April 13, 2005, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Out of curiosity, why do you read Nauvoo?
That's not an accusatory question - I'm honestly curious.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
I've read Nauvoo, too. I was curious about it, so I have taken a look at some of the discussions on very rare occasions.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Tom reads it a more than occasionally, though, I think. I was just wondering why. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I read Nauvoo because I am fascinated by Mormon culture and intrigued by the sociological impact of the religion on its members. Since Nauvoo is largely a protected site -- being Mormon-only -- it means that its members post more freely there and are able to touch on a broader and more unconsciously honest range of topics than if they were constantly forced to defend the same narrow "battleground" in debate after debate with nonbelievers. It means they're free to disagree with each other on dogma and deeper doctrines that they'd avoid discussing elsewhere, lapse into members-only lingo, and even honestly discuss their problems with the faith and the culture in a way that being forced to publicly defend it would prevent them from doing. Nauvoo is, in a very real way, a glimpse of the kind of society the Mormons would create if they could run the world as a discussion board.
My interest is, in a way, kind of anthropological. I find it deeply intriguing.
(That said, I don't read it that often; I swing by about once a month, since traffic is so low there by comparison that it's easy to catch up and skim the interesting and/or busy topics.)
[ April 13, 2005, 05:18 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Hmmm...so it's a way to find out what Mormons say to each other about their religion when the non-members aren't listening.
Theoretically, anyway.
*resists* *fails* But that means you care about it. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Yeah. *grin* But you knew that. Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Kat, I read Nauvoo about that often
Realize that some people are just naturally curious.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Yeah.
*pats fugu* Don't worry, fugu - I know you don't care. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Well, no, Katie's kind of right. I read Nauvoo instead of reading, say, a site dedicated to Southern Baptists or trainwatchers. Which implies that I am more curious about Mormons -- and care more about 'em -- than I am about Southern Baptists or trainwatchers.
I'm not uncomfortable with being a conversion prospect, and I'm glad she cares enough to care. *laugh* If she started mailing me tracts, though, I'd have to use the glare smiley.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Not in the way you mean Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I've read Nauvoo before because I don't really know a whole lot about Mormonism and it is depressing not to know enough about something.
Posted by Yozhik (Member # 89) on :
The good thing about Nauvoo is that it bans obnoxious anti-Mormons. Now if I could only ban obnoxious Mormons too, it would be perfect.
Tom wrote:
quote:I've seen criticisms of and generalizations about non-Mormons at Nauvoo that I believe would not be permitted if directed toward Mormons and posted to Hatrack.
That is too bad. I hate it when Mormons do this, because it makes me look bad by association. I'd give 'em all a swift kick if I could.
[ April 13, 2005, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: Yozhik ]
Posted by Susie Derkins (Member # 7718) on :
quote:Nauvoo is, in a very real way, a glimpse of the kind of society the Mormons would create if they could run the world as a discussion board.
...and who says we can't?
*ninja smiley*
Posted by Susie Derkins (Member # 7718) on :
*personal note*
We really need some Mormon tracts. I think we're missing out on a huge conversion option here.
*starts working on cartoon sketches to send to Salt Lake*
[ April 13, 2005, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Susie Derkins ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
No tracts, I promise.
For Tom, anyway. Fugu did not protest, so that makes him fair game. Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:I've seen criticisms of and generalizations about non-Mormons at Nauvoo that I believe would not be permitted if directed toward Mormons and posted to Hatrack.
I've seen some things like that, too.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*shrug* They are still human. Everyone just got a thorough chastising for it, if that makes you feel better. Posted by no. 6 (Member # 7753) on :
Just goes to show you: stereotypes are a two way street.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:*shrug* They are still human. Everyone just got a thorough chastising for it, if that makes you feel better.
Would this have been an off-forum chastising? Just wondering, not trying to start a fight, cause the remarks I saw were uncontested, at the time. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
No, it's there, on the forum. Kathy Kidd and OSC took care of it.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Many threads were deleted, many more were closed, and rules were posted for all. Not that people don't still wander in and do it, but now everyone points them straight to the rules. Mostly.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
I'd take Mormon tracts, I think tracts would make cool wallpaper.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Look for posts this week by papa janitor and find out how his family is!
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
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