I know, it's politically incorrect of me to speculate on the sexual-orientation of vehicle operators. And it's none of my business what you girls drive. And it's wrong of me to stereotype people based on their mode of transportation.
But I've correctly guessed two out of three in the last month. I think I'm onto something, and I'm going to bet somebody a lot of money the next time I have a chance to excercise my skills of discernment.
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
There are lesbians on hatrack?
Posted by ssywak (Member # 807) on :
There's some politically semi-incorrect joke in there somewhere. Now if I could only find it!
Posted by Susie Derkins (Member # 7718) on :
I'm Lebanese! And I drive an Audi.
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
'sides, everyone knows lesbians drive SUVs
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I drive a Honda Civic sedan.
-Trevor
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
I'm friends with a ton of lesbians...
My friend Eileen drives a Ford Ranger, Natasha a Toyota corolla, Sarah a Ford Contor...and if you hit Ferndale or Royal Oak (big gay areas in Detroit) you'll see a million Sabaru's and sport wagons. Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
My correct guesses so far:
Subaru Forester Jeep Wrangler-canvas top
Both vehicles were green, either forest green or hunter green. Coincidence?
My incorrect guess was a slightly-rusted, white Honda Civic 4-door. Sorry Trevor.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Hm. I think that says more about the sort of lesbians you know than about lesbians in general. Or cars. Posted by imenimok (Member # 7679) on :
quote: you'll see a million Sabaru's and sport wagons
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
I drive a Ranger. Does that mean I'm a lesbian? I'm not sure whether slacker would be disappointed or excited.... Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
*somebody mentions lesbian*
*heads perks up*
"what!? where!!" *grin*
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Some of my gay friends used to call my purple 4x4 Tacoma pickup a dyke truck. It was funny. Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
*high fives Annie* Yay Lebanese people!
My gay friend Graham once told me he had me "pegged" as a lesbian, and a big part of that was because I drive a RAV4.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:*somebody mentions lesbian*
*heads perks up*
"what!? where!!" *grin*
Okay, this is a source of confusion for me.
Doesn't the term "lesbian", by its very definition, mean she would NOT be interested in you? No paying attention to you? Why would that be interesting?
So confusing.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
I don't have a car. Does that mean I'm straight, gay, or in between?
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
It means you're asexual. Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Hey nothing wrong with that! Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Sid...women just don't understand the allure Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
So explain it.
Because seriously, gay men are not remotely attractive in that sense. I prefer to have someone pay attention to me, not be unattracted to my person on principle.
Do you not believe they mean it? They were just waiting for a guy like you to change their minds? You're secretly leery of women and so they are safe?
[ April 15, 2005, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
quote:Hey nothing wrong with that!
But I like sex. Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
One of my coworkers who is gay bought a little Toyota SUV. Can't remember which letters make up its name. But it's a nice little vehicle. I carpooled with him for close to a year in it. I wonder what he thought of my red Pontiac Bonneville when it was my day to drive.
After we stopped carpooling, I bought a little white Nissan 2x4 pickup. Don't know how macho it is, but it's certainly very useful.
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Probably a RAV then
Poor twinky Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
I have to say this ranks right up there as one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen. Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
quote:So explain it.
One woman = sexy. Two women = sexy sexy. One woman + one man who is not you = not so sexy.
Actual attainability isn't part of the fantasy. It's a lot like lusting after a celebrity.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Honestly Kat, I don't think I can.
And it doesn't hold true for every male and the reverse, as you noted, usually doesn't hold true for women.
But for a lot of guys, the porno fantasy of two women engaged in foreplay or sexual activity is exciting.
There are a variety of possible factors that might enter into the explanation, not the least of which being the thrill of something vaguely taboo.
-Trevor
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Hmm...okay. Kind of the same thing I have for 1954 Marlon Brando.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Oh, really? Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
[ April 15, 2005, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
She's got such a cheesy smile, like being held that way by Marlon Brando is her dream or something.
All right, it makes me a little jealous. I wish I was Brando in that picture. He looks so manly and virile.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Viral, what?
-Trevor
Posted by A Rat Named Dog (Member # 699) on :
I don't think that men in general are attracted to "real" lesbians (ie, to quote a stereotype, the average-looking middle-aged woman with short grey hair who has a sexual distaste for men and an irreversible preference for women).
What men are attracted to is the idea of the "hot college lesbian" ... (to quote another stereotype) the impressionable hetero- or bi-sexual girl who will try anything, has a lot of attitude, and likes to make out with other girls while guys watch.
You might call this image the "Girls Gone Wild" lesbian.
[ April 15, 2005, 12:33 PM: Message edited by: A Rat Named Dog ]
Posted by Minerva (Member # 2991) on :
The "real" lesbian looks like the "real" woman. I think you knew that, just pointing it out.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Don't second-guess me like that. Then I have to pull down the dictionary and make sure I didn't spell it wrong. Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Hence fantasy, usually inspired by porn which is as far from reality as you can get anyway.
-Trevor
Edit: As far from reality as you can get, without drugs at any rate.
[ April 15, 2005, 12:37 PM: Message edited by: TMedina ]
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
::touches her nose and points to Geoff::
Posted by A Rat Named Dog (Member # 699) on :
quote:The "real" lesbian looks like the "real" woman. I think you knew that, just pointing it out.
Of course. I used the sterotype to draw a clear line between the two images. Wasn't really trying to say "this is how all lesbians look" or anything like that. I think the fact that I clearly labeled both images as stereotypes makes it pretty clear what I was doing.
[ April 15, 2005, 12:36 PM: Message edited by: A Rat Named Dog ]
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
"Real" lesbian count: 1.5 Car feedback from "real" lesbians: 0
C'mon girls!
Posted by Zeugma (Member # 6636) on :
*cough* I really hate to add to this ridiculous topic, but I feel compelled to say that one of the lesbians I know, a former employer, drives a forest green Subaru Outback.
Of course, Subaru Outback and Foresters are getting to be so popular in this town that they've earned their own spot in the Ithaca Parade... the Subaru Samba! My heart still belongs to the Volvo Ballet, though. Posted by imenimok (Member # 7679) on :
Again with the Subarus. Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
quote:My gay friend Graham once told me he had me "pegged" as a lesbian
Wow. There are SO many ways to take this sentence.
Posted by Susie Derkins (Member # 7718) on :
For the record, I am neither Lebanese, nor do I drive an Audi. Lebanese people are, however, very cool.
I just thought I'd add to the general inanity.
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
As someone who has at times been attracted to women, I can say that my dream car would be the Volvo sedan, an older one with the"boxy but good" styling. I also like BMW's, though, so it would probably come down to gas mileage (if price were no object.) I can't believe any self respecting lesbian drives an H2, and yet there are some who do. Then again, I don't know why anyone with a measureable I.Q. would drive an H2 so that really doesn't say anything about the lesbians.
Actually, I guess my wild fantasy car would be a Lotus Europa, but my understanding is they break down a lot. I used to design fantasy cars when I was a teen. And, uh, I find the idea of gay men sexy. At least the idea of Keanu Reeves and River Phoenix. Though I never did see that movie where they played prostitutes.
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
I have to join Kat on the Marlon Brando thing, though I'd have linked to the "Stella!" still from Streetcar Named Desire, if I could find it.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
This one? Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
[ April 15, 2005, 02:04 PM: Message edited by: blacwolve ]
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
quote:What men are attracted to is the idea of the "hot college lesbian" ... (to quote another stereotype) the impressionable hetero- or bi-sexual girl who will try anything, has a lot of attitude, and likes to make out with other girls while guys watch.
There's also the term 'lipstick lesbian' for this kind of phenomena.
And really, the attraction is not just the two women. There's also the implication in the fantasy that it's NOT just those two, but you as well, even if just as a viewer. The implication is that you are so virile that two women want you. Plus, given that the viewer is a male- which would he rather see? Male or female parts? And if one is good, aren't two better?
Fake and degrading, I know.
quote:Wow. There are SO many ways to take this sentence.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I'm familiar with the term "lisptick lesbians", but again the average male with this fantasy is picturing the extreme version of women as per the porn standard and not the average of mainstream society.
And Mothertree? Wow, I'll have to add that to the list - I've never heard of a woman finding the opposite to be even vaguely interesting.
-Trevor
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
rivka, I was thinking more of this one. But it's still not quite the one I remember. I don't think the one you linked is even from Streetcar Named Desire. It looks more like Julius Ceasar to me.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Stickshifts, what else?
Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
quote: Wow, I'll have to add that to the list - I've never heard of a woman finding the opposite to be even vaguely interesting.
Count me in on that too I like looking at pretty men, and if there's two of them instead of one, so much the better.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Stray, the question isn't looking at two guys just sitting there, but does the idea of two men going at it excite you?
-Bok
Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
Yes, it does; I think it's hot. Don't really know why that is, I just do.
Edit to add: I'm biased though, I prefer that it be really pretty men, and usually on the young side. The male equivalent of lipstick lesbians, I suppose
[ April 15, 2005, 02:23 PM: Message edited by: Stray ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
<created before Xav's entry>
Oh, I just knew it. It isn't the idea of lesbians, but the idea that they aren't really - if they knew you, they wouldn't be! Lesbianism standing in for the ultimate chastity belt.
The corresponding idea is not even remotely attractive.
[ April 15, 2005, 02:39 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by Papa Janitor (Member # 7795) on :
I think we may be getting a little more graphic than is appropriate for this forum, folks. Discussion of stereotypes and cars (and car stereo types -- mine's a Sony) is probably ok.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
*sigh*
Yeah I was afraid of that Mike.
I just wasn't appreciated all the generalizations that seemed to classify anyone with such fantasies as a dirt-bag. Figured I would actually try to answer the question instead of repeating a stereotype.
I will delete my post, sorry.
[ April 15, 2005, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: Xavier ]
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
You check your mail you crazy Janitor!
Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
I'm glad I got to read your post before it was deleted, Xav; I don't believe I've ever heard the attraction explained so well before. It's certainly better than anything I could have managed Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Well frag, I wanted to hear another explanation.
-Trevor
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Hmmmm.
Well I had considered keeping an electronic version of it in case someone wanted to hear it, but two things changed my mind.
1) I am at work, and having something like that on my work computer would not be smart (in retrospect I could have saved it as a gmail draft)
2) I decided I was being egotistical in thinking that anyone would actually care about it.
Well, its gone now, but if someone wants it send me an email and perhaps I will try and rewrite it.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
It's all good - it was more of an academic curiosity than anything else.
-Trevor
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
The thing is that it was kind of a painful thing to delete in part because it took me a good 30 minutes of my time, partly because whenever I open myself up like that I want it to matter, and partly because I really hadn't heard anyone explain it quite like that.
I'm glad you liked it at least Stray .
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
I thought it was good, too.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
I aswell.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Xavier, if you do decide to recreate it, I'm interested. eljay at hotmail.com. Don't do it just for me, though, I can live with curiousity. Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
I had it in my temp file cache, and just e-mailed it to Xavier's gmail account.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Thank you, Papa, that was very considerate of you.
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
sorry I missed it.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Whoa, thanks Mike.
I think I may take this opportunity to revise it (ugh, I need to go back to spell checking my posts, but prally won't) and maybe expanding it a little I will send it to whoever wants it.
Funny thing is, its almost certainly going to dissapoint. WAY to much build up. I would classify it as mildly interesting at best .
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Disappoint me.
mechanicalman at gmail dot com
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
I'd be interested in seeing it also-- noemon at sakeriver dot com.
Of course, you could post it on Sakeriver and link to it here--that'd probably save you a bit of time.
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
"Xavier's analysis is spot on. By means of metaphorical juxtaposition, Xavier explodes the myth of male fantasy and replaces it with biological imperatives. Once this new paradigm is accepted, greater harmony between the sexes can be reached. Such is the power of his study."
Just trying to help with the expectation. Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
You've got a point there Noeman. Is Mike cool with that sort of thing?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Have a look at the top four or five threads at Sakeriver. Posted by no. 6 (Member # 7753) on :
And it used to be about the role-playing.
Oh, well. I guess it still is.... Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I like how all three of the guys in that smiley are smiling.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
If statistics for the general population are correct, we should have several.
But then I wouldn't know, since I haven't seen what you gals are driving.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:And it used to be about the role-playing.
Oh, well. I guess it still is....
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:If statistics for the general population are correct, we should have several.
But then I wouldn't know, since I haven't seen what you gals are driving.
And even if you did know what the women of Hatrack are driving, you still wouldn't know. Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
So Ela, you disagree with my premise? I would agree with you that women, like men, drive whatever vehicle they like.
If a lesbian wanted to drive a Corvette, she'd buy a Corvette. But a lesbian driving a Corvette might be mistaken for a self-obsessed man in his second childhood.
Do lesbians drive minivans? Isn't a minivan a symbol of man's subjugation of woman as a reproductive machine?
Maybe your point is that there are straight women who eschew minivans and Corvettes for the same reasons that lesbians do.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
You're just reinforcing a stereotype that lesbians are women with short hair, wear flannel and drive SUVs. It's stupid and certainly not any form of good gaydar.
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
Is it good enough for a guy?
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
mack, while there are as many types of lesbians as there are types of women, the stereotype of lesbians as short haired women in tennis shoes driving SUVs is accurate **as far as stereotypes go**.
Now I haven't hung out in the gay community lately (durn internet addiction cost me all my friends) but at least back in the 90s, a goodly percentage of lesbians I knew fit that description.
Bisexual women on the other hand were harder to spot.
Pix
(edit: not too much flannel though)
[ April 15, 2005, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: The Pixiest ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*sigh*
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
Yes, Pix's stereotype is pretty good as far as stereotypes go.
Yes, we know you're straight, mack.
Moving on...
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
It's a stereotype because it fits enough people that association has become commonplace.
It's like expecting every gay man to be like Nathan Lane - if that's all you've experienced, it could be an easy mistake to make.
Similarly, people from cultures with a homogenous element will typically make collective assumptions of other cultural groups based on limited interaction with select members of that cultural group.
Now, a stereotype is still a stereotype and as such cannot be applied to all lesbians everywhere, but some lesbians do fit the assigned stereotype. Some, as a matter of fact, embrace it.
-Trevor
Posted by Susie Derkins (Member # 7718) on :
I just find it rather alien to be evaluating people on the cars they drive, but then again, I'm a bit out of the middle class mainstream.
I would be much more likely to judge someone's personality and preferences on what they read or what they eat or what they do for a living. Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I figured the thread was more of a tounge-in-cheek exercise than a serious attempt at enlightenment.
-Trevor
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
^^^^
Indeed. Otherwise there would be no hope for me. Though I may buy my parents' Camry from them, since they want (well, mum wants) to downsize to a smaller car...
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
I think that the car you drive can say a lot about you, regardless of social class. It certainly reveals a lot more about your personality than most things. And it's not something a person can conceal for very long.
Then again, I use any source I can get to learn about someone--to minimize time wasted.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Yeah?
I dunno. I mean, I like the Camry -- not the most recent, larger, revision, but the 1999-2002-era Camry -- because it's a good size (I'm tall) but not bulky, it has clean lines, the stereo sounds very, very good... and, most importantly, at that time it was one of the most reliable cars on the market, produced by the manufacturer that makes the world's most reliable (by a significant margin, at that) cars.
But if you saw me pull into a parking space in a Camry, would you think of those reasons?
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
Oh, and bumper stickers can be a dead giveaway.
Bumper stickers on a green SUV...
Here in Salt Lake it would be a KRCL radio bumper sticker. Do they still have the lesbian lunch program every Thursday at noon?
Gun control stickers, Kerry/Edwards stickers, Sierra Club stickers, SCUBA diver stickers, "Start seeing motorcycles" stickers, Bob Marley stickers...so many worthy causes.
Posted by Susie Derkins (Member # 7718) on :
How about the bumper sticker that says: BUCKLE UP! (it makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car) ?
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
twinky, that car shows that you're not noticably insecure, relatively low-maintenance, efficient, and not overly superficial.
A fine choice that doesn't raise any red flags. Actually seeing the car and connecting that information with other stuff I know about you would probably give me enough information about you that I'd know whether or not I'd feel like driving all the way to Canada for a few beers.
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
Another bumper sticker that's a big giveaway for lesbians is the rainbow.
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
Aliens sucking lesbians out of their cars? What a strange mental image. Why do they need all those lesbians? Do they have a shortage of NPR radio personalities on their planet?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
quote:twinky, that car shows that you're not noticably insecure, relatively low-maintenance, efficient, and not overly superficial.
Well, sure, flatter me so I'll agree with you.
quote:A fine choice that doesn't raise any red flags. Actually seeing the car and connecting that information with other stuff I know about you would probably give me enough information about you that I'd know whether or not I'd feel like driving all the way to Canada for a few beers.
Hm. Maybe you just make faster judgments than I do...
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
It really weirds me out to see Pop being referred to as "Mike."
For some reason, I'm also feeling compelled to say that even I find 1954 Marlon Brando hot. 1958 Paul Newman, too.
Edit: 1995 Marlon Brando, not so much.
[ April 15, 2005, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: saxon75 ]
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I must agree with blacwovle that Paul Newman is more attractive than Marlon Brando, and they're both more attractive than any current young actors. James Dean is up there too.
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
quote: Another bumper sticker that's a big giveaway for lesbians is the rainbow.
I happen to have two rainbow stickers on my car and I am most assuredly not a lesbian. Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
*foolish grin*, I don't know why I like the idea of lesbians, at least its better then me hating them neh? Oh BTW, the middle aged kind lesbian I don't think is bad, as long as their reasonably attractive I see nothing wrong. So what if they're twice my age (which would be around mid 30's)?
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
quote: It really weirds me out to see Pop being referred to as "Mike."
See, I start calling people by their real names when I meet them in person. Since I have met both you and Papa Moose, I tend to think of you both as "Mike". Papa Moose especially since I made his whole family think I was crazy by referring to him as 'Moose' in front of them...
hmmm, I'll have to think of a solution to this.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Oh BTW, the middle aged kind lesbian I don't think is bad, as long as their reasonably attractive I see nothing wrong.
This, I'm sure, comes as a relief to middle aged lesbians everywhere.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
And personally I'm glad to know that mid-30s now counts as middle aged. I'm almost there!
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Maybe lesbians just age faster than the rest of the population--candles burning at both ends and all of that.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Oh no you di-int, Noemon!
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Candles in both ends of what?
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
Question for Hatrack Thread Necrophiles: What kind of car do you drive?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
I'm guessing the Hearse.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
No, I think it would be Le Car.
Posted by Thong-Myster (Member # 8495) on :
I drive a Honda! Whoo!
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Everyone I know drives a minivan. Gay, straight, whatever, they've all got minivans. Even the Funeral Director shows up to collect the corpse in a minivan.
In the carpool lane at school, it is a long line of minivans.
I have a minivan to haul my wheelchair-riding husband around.
That's weird, in my corner of suburbia EVERYONE has an SUV... it's become the new minivan and it's weird.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
That is weird.
Save me anyway?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Pictures!
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
I don't drive. I probably won't have money for a car until I'm 75. I won't have a house until I'm 175. But who cares?
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
Katie, what happened to that really great Brando pic you posted a while back? I can't find it on google now. Did you snag a copy?
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
He looks so much like my dad, it's creepy! My mom was a huge Brando fan back then. Now I'm thinking she totally married my dad for his looks!
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by kojabu: Go to the foobonic hatrack gallery (last page), there are a few there. I have some more recent ones from when I was in Rome, but the ones on that site are how I have my hair now.
I found you! Be still my heart! You're a cutie.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Why thankee Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
My pleasure. Um, no problem. Um, you're welcome. Um, what did we agree was the correct response?
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
hahaha. You're welcome usually fits. I often blush when I get compliments no matter who they're from and that was the only blushing smiley thing.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
<-- severe blush/sunburn graemlin
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
whoa, I'm sorta tan, but not that much.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
I don't have the digital camera. No Shvester pictures. Generally, I look like somebody's Jewish Mother. Which, coincidentally, I am.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
I've been told I look Jewish. But as far as we know, there's no Jewish in me. My mom's cousin is on a hunt to prove that we are though.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
edit...
Ha! That was the funniest thing ever!
I was referring to one of the Marlon Brando posts on page 1.
Oops.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Waitaminute...
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
He was?
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
ooops! I was responding to this post I saw on page 1... I had no idea this thread was 3 pages long.
sorry. I'll go fix it.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
So much confusion at hatrack tonight! Tante that thing in the word associations thread made me laugh.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Yeah, it suddenly got lively. Be still, my post count!
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
I wonder if I'll break 800.
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
I can't find any picture of him at the right age, but here he was when he was 10. The forehead, nose, and mouth are really similar, I think, though it doesn't show so much when he was this young, maybe.
[ August 17, 2005, 02:07 AM: Message edited by: Tatiana ]
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by kojabu: I wonder if I'll break 800.
Post count or SAT score?
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Hey!! I go to Cornell!!!!
(post count)
(but prob not because I'm going to be watching some Ellen with a friend)
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Wait! You go to Cornell?
Well, when we come out there this winter, you and Zeugma and I can make Zeugma Real, and you real if you are not yet real.
(Ithaca area music groupie)
Posted by Hmm216 (Member # 8403) on :
Elizabeth are you talking about the all male ensemble?? Ithaca?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Do they still slide down the hills on trays? Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Oh, lord, Tante, we used to slide down the hill on trays, but in Vermont, not Ithaca.
No, Hmm216, I do not mean the all male ensemble, though there are many Ithaca area all male ensembles I tend to follow about.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Tante, yes they do! I personally haven't, but I know people who do.
Elizabeth, I'm not real yet, but I long to be real!
Who do you see when you come here?
Posted by Treason (Member # 7587) on :
so what would you guess a bisexual girl drives?
Did you guess black 2003 ford focus? good for you!
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
First of all, Kojabu, even if you are a lesbian, doesn't your Ithaca residence trump that? Should you not be driving a Volvo?
Second of all, we go out to GrassRoots in the summer. We are Donna the Buffalo fans. Because of them, we are now fans of just about every band in the Ithaca area.
We usually come out to see Crow Greenspun when he plays in the winter or early spring. This year, my son is going to play two songs with them.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by Treason: so what would you guess a bisexual girl drives?
Umm... bicycle?
Posted by Zeugma (Member # 6636) on :
You have to drive a Volvo in Ithaca, if only to be able to take it to Dave's. Yay, regular maintenance this Friday, I can't wait!
True story: We were in the Farmer's Market parking lot one day about a year ago, and almost got in the wrong car. How did we figure out it was the wrong car? Because the green "Ithaca is Gorges" sticker was on the left side of their bumper, while ours is centered. Otherwise our cars were identical. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Ha ha!!
Oh, Zeugma, we have to make it work this time! Plus, you will get to see Aidan play in his first rock band!
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:Originally posted by ElJay: And personally I'm glad to know that mid-30s now counts as middle aged. I'm almost there!
If the mid-30's is the new middle age, then I am reallly old. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
No, Ela, you are not. With the expanding waistline of the average American, it just means there is a bigger middle.
By the way, are you coming to drop Jane off?
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
quote:Originally posted by Elizabeth: First of all, Kojabu, even if you are a lesbian, doesn't your Ithaca residence trump that? Should you not be driving a Volvo?
Haha, I don't drive anything. And if I had a choice and viable options, I wouldn't drive at all, which in Ithaca generally works out pretty well.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Ooh, where "don't want to drive" put you in the "sexual orientation based on car choice"(or vice versa) spectrum?
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:Originally posted by Elizabeth: No, Ela, you are not. With the expanding waistline of the average American, it just means there is a bigger middle.
By the way, are you coming to drop Jane off?
No, unfortunately. The Kidnapping Victim will be doing the honors.
I thought I might be coming up Columbus Day weekend to drive JaneX to NY to spend the weekend and see "Avenue Q," but it is looking as though that might be too expensive for us, right now.
Hope to be up there on some future occasion, though, and I expect you to remember that we have a date. Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Hmm, it kind of fits with the Ithaca attitude I suppose. And Ithaca is very very lesbian friendly. I love driving, but I don't think driving is sustainable under current conditions.
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
That's all very interesting and funny, of course, but sorry, I'm still reeling from what I've just discovered about my parents' marriage! Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Ela, what an appropriate thread for a discussion of or date! What should I drive to pick you up?
Kojabu, I am listening to IY right now, a youngster band, sort of pop, but really awesome. I saw a few songs of theirs at GR. Check them out if you can!
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
I've heard of them, they played in the Battle of the Bands that all my friends' bands were in. I don't recall hearing them though.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
They re really, really good. If you go to Musefest, they will be there.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
That requires a car. Posted by Will B (Member # 7931) on :
OK, let me say in advance, I'm joking:
Jedda (sp?) -- lesbian VW convertible, can't remember the brand name -- gay man Tracker -- confused about his identity Jeep -- retrosexual (of either sex) Miata -- divorced male retiree BMW -- chick magnet Suzuki Samurai -- mechanic magnet Volvo -- polyamorist VW Bug -- would-be polyamorist Buick -- woman who doesn't have energy to be a polyamorist Hyundai -- I just have to get to work, OK?
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Sweeet!
edit: Arg I pulled a Bob and responded to the last post on the page before this one, oops!
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Noemon, you had to bump this thread to post that?!
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Elizabeth, you can't make two people real all by yourself!
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
I know a real funny joke about a lesbian and a Volvo. But I don't think I can repeat it here.
Pity.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Icarus, ye naysayer, I can too! I will have my son with me, and he is as real as can be.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
What are the qualifications for someone being real?
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
You have to meet two other real Hatrackers.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
I wish I was real. I suspect I am imaginary.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Who's your son on hatrack?
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
^^
::wonders::
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
I wonder if there are any other Hatrackers in the area of Ithaca.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Here's MY son on Hatrack:
quote:Profile for Son of Shvester Member Status: Member Member Number: 8489 Registered: August 15, 2005 Posts: 16 Email Address: Click here to email this user Location: Right here, in front of the computer Occupation: student Interests: poetry, magic, clowning AIM ID: friboy2791
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
I wonder how long it would take him to get the same # of posts as his member number.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Zeugma the Vegetarian Volvo owner is, I think that is it.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Woo vegetarians!
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Confused?
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Icarus, Ithaca is known for both its vegetarian population and its high percentage of Volvo owners. Doesn't everyone know that? Sheesh.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
And its lesbians!
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
No, Northampton is more famous for its lesbians, kojabu.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Eh, it's still a pretty happening lesbian place.
Posted by rav (Member # 7595) on :
I just want to point out that Myr said she drives me.
(Does that make ME a lesbian!?)
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:Originally posted by Elizabeth: Ela, what an appropriate thread for a discussion of or date! What should I drive to pick you up?
I'll let you know when I'm in the vicinity. Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
quote:Originally posted by rav: (Does that make ME a lesbian!?)
I think Tante's more likely to win the "lesbian without knowing it" award between flirting with kojabu and begging for some one to save her from suburban monotony... Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tante Shvester:
quote:Originally posted by Treason: so what would you guess a bisexual girl drives?
Umm... bicycle?
<laugh> Very nice.
I drive a Suzuki compact station wagon. I didn't even know that Suzuki made cars until I got this one. My partner hates it with a vengeance, because you can actually feel the road. She drives this big boat of an Oldsmobile, which needs about 3 lanes to make a U turn in.
My first car was a Saturn SL2. I had it for about a month and a half before driving it off of a 300 foot cliff and turning it into so much tinfoil. <wistfully> I really liked that car...
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jim-Me:
quote:Originally posted by rav: (Does that make ME a lesbian!?)
I think Tante's more likely to win the "lesbian without knowing it" award between flirting with kojabu and begging for some one to save her from suburban monotony...
Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tante Shvester: Here's MY son on Hatrack:
quote:Profile for Son of Shvester Member Status: Member Member Number: 8489 Registered: August 15, 2005 Posts: 16 Email Address: Click here to email this user Location: Right here, in front of the computer Occupation: student Interests: poetry, magic, clowning AIM ID: friboy2791
I love what he put for location.
About 15 years ago, my parents wanted to take me out for dinner, but I was already keeping kosher, so we decided to go to a place called Ken's Diner, in Skokie. I couldn't remember the address, so my Dad called on his carphone, got the number, and called Ken's.
Ken: Ken's Diner. Dad: Hi. Can you tell me where you're located? Ken: In the back of the store.
Dead silence.
Dad: Okay. Let's try that again. Ken: Sure. Ken's Diner. Dad: Hi. Can you tell me where you're located? Ken: (gave the address)
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
quote: (Does that make ME a lesbian!?)
Yes, rav. Very much so.
Also I will never look at the phrase "to drive my RAV" the same way ever again.
Posted by raventh1 (Member # 3750) on :
HAHAHAHAHA, Awesome! (to both counts)
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Posted by MandyM (Member # 8375) on :
quote:Do lesbians drive minivans? Isn't a minivan a symbol of man's subjugation of woman as a reproductive machine?
My husband drives a minivan.... what does that say about him?
On the other hand, I drive a big gas-guzzling Dodge Durango (that cost me $60 to fill this week) so I guess I AM a lesbian.
*leaves to go buy a rainbow sticker*
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
I can finally answer in this thread.
Until recently I drove a 91 Ford Escort. Now I drive a Maxima.
Pix
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
Does anyone else think he looks like early MarlonBrando ?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote: flirting with kojabu
Oh, I flirt with everyone at Hatrack.
<bats eyes flirtatiously>
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
hmph... you've never flirted with me
edit: I guess I have to say "before" since you're batting your eyes like that... Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Aw man and I thought I was all special.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by kojabu: Aw man and I thought I was all special.
You ARE special. And not in that "everyone is special in their own special way" kind of special, either.
You are one of my favorite Hatrackesses.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
What do lesbians drive?
I've heard that they drive some men crazy.
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