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Oklahoma was the first state to restrict the availability of pseudoephedrine, a decongestant crucial in making meth, by moving certain non-prescription cold tablets such as Sinutab and Sudafed behind the pharmacy counter. Shoppers in Oklahoma are limited in how many packets of the medication containing pseudoephedrine they can buy at one time and must show ID and sign for the tablets.

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http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=23058
 

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Posted by ctm (Member # 6525) on :
 
Here in Wisconsin we have to tell them our age but I don't think we have to show ID...yet. It's no longer possible to by the economy-size bottles, either-- just blister-packs of 24. Apparently there are a lot of meth labs in the southwest part of the state.
 

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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Yeah - and they just passed the same thing in Kansas (takes effect June 1, I believe) because all those Okies were coming up here to get it after the OK law passed...

FG
 

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Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
It's too bad for those of us with sinus issues looking for a bargain and buying up when they go on sale.

It is amazing the amount of daily household things that are used for getting a high. It is so sad.
 

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Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
It IS.

Good thing I can't use sudafed because it gives me panic-type attacks.
 

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Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
Many of the stores here (Chicago area) are enforcing a two-package limit. Most of the pharmacy and convenience stores have had their cold medicines under lock and key for as much as a year, Walmart and the grocery stores are starting to do the same.
 

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Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
I had no idea about any of this.

My son uses Sudafed for his allergies, not sure how often, though. I have no idea if my husband (who generally buys the Sudafed) knows about this either.
 

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Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
I've heard stories about this since last year - and the sad part is, people just move on to something else.

Huffing is stupid, but people do it.

Some kids were downing six bottles of cough syrup for a high.

-Trevor
 

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Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
 
mack - Sudafed gives you panic attacks but Adderall does not? Weird.

Trevor - Six bottles? That is about three or four too many. DXM is evil. Still better than huffing, though.

At least in Kentucky gas stations still sell Mini-thins, which are ephedrine and guaifenesin.
 

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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
They had on the news the other night about some new, speeded-up method the druggies have come up with to create Meth, that can be done all in one bottle and doesn't require annhydrous ammonia (as the most common current practice does). It heats a lot hotter and is much more volatile while making it -- but the end product comes out more pure, and is much more lethal.

Just great.
 

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Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Danzig, I react oddly to many, many medications. It gives my doctors a challenge.
 

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Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
 
Counterposing the tighter control on ephedrine, the FDA ban on ephedra has been ruled illegal.
 

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Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
Don't look at me Dan - I'm just repeating what the investigative story reported.

I have a hard time convincing myself to take the stuff when I'm sick.

-Trevor
 

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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Here's a link to what I was talking about, concerning the new Meth method.
 

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Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
Yes, fumes are bad.

-Trevor
 

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Posted by SoberTillNoon (Member # 6170) on :
 
Kids... We'll think of anyhting to make drugs out of.
 

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Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
 
That's nuts. So are they going to put buying limits on glue next?
 

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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Well, glue, Nyquil and such is considered minor league.

Meth is a HUGE business -- a very adult business. Sure there are some kids using it, but most of the manufacturers of it are adults.

That's what they are trying to shut down.

Plus - the stores are probably all for this legistlation -- they are having the stuff shoplifted left and right. People not only want it, they don't want to have to pay for it..

FG
 

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Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
 
Sudafed has been locked up here for at least six months. Several of the smaller stores will no longer carry it, and among the ones that do, there is a 2 package limit.

However, I asked a lady about this in our little store in town, and she said rather than trying to enforce the limit it's just easier not to carry it. She says that she and the other women are afraid to enforce the limit because they don't want to be saying "no" to someone who might possibly already be under the influence. I think a lot of this fear has come about from the recent kidnap and murder of a 9-year-old from a town about 40 minutes away. She was murdered because her attackers thought she'd seen their meth lab.

space opera
 

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Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
 
Wow...now it's going to take forever to accumulate enough Sudafed to make a nice sized batch of meth...
 

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Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
Meth is dangerous stuff.

Not the least of which being the physical hazards of a lab, the toxic and explosive gases that can accumulate, making any drug raid that much more dangerous.

Meth is also making inroads to suburban housewives as a means of being the "perfect wife" - all the energy you could ever want, no appetite to speak of and the perfect waistline.

Of course, people rationalize the dangers in favor of the promised rewards and end up paying more than they ever thought, one way or another.

-Trevor
 

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Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
Wow, now they are pushing for the limits to go national.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050501/ap_on_he_me/cold_medicines

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WASHINGTON - An association representing more than 36,000 pharmacies is issuing guidelines for possible federal legislation to restrict sales of cold medications containing a substance often used in the illegal manufacture of methamphetamine — or "speed."

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