Well, someone had to take the initiative. The Canadian Maple (Stone/Ice tank) is on Protector right now. I will, before the night is out (I hope), create a super group whose name I've yet to decide. Unless the cut off to make one is still level 10, in which case it might be tomorrow night that I start it. I hope nobody is on this server yet, keeping us all at roughly the same level is the only way we're going to keep playing together (I'd think).
Come one, come all! If you're on tonight, I'll probably be around.
(@ Factor XIII)
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
What does this mean? I'm a native English speaker, and yet I have no clue....
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
I'm thinking CoH is City of Heroes.....
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
I'm guessing this is some sort of secret code telling strategically positioned Canadian commandos and guerillas to invade America.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
It's a video game thing....
You wouldn't understand.
//end irony//
[ May 03, 2005, 07:00 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
we'll be ready for those Canadian evildoers!
*sharpens knives* "Time to make me some Canadian bacon"
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Wow, this is so... cryptic.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Don't play dumb—we all know you're a Canuck, too. Off to the detention camp for you!
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Hey Dan (thats your name right?), should we try to coordinate our powers?
Should I start my Controller over? (would like to slot some differently anyway, and perhaps a uniform tweek)
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
It is at that, Phil.
Nah, I wouldn't worry about coordinating powers, you can make just about anything work. Just pick whatever you think is fun and get a toon on Protector. You can tweak your costume at Icon stores and get your first respec at 24 if you don't feel like starting over.
Posted by accio (Member # 3040) on :
(Sorry, I couldn’t resist. )
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
That's actually where the name came from, accio. I was studying Factor XIII at the time I made the character. It just seemed like a cool name to me Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Cool. Will do that either right now (before dinner) or in an hour or so (after dinner).
Just in case anyone cares about duplicate power sets, I plan on making another Gravity/Force Field controller.
And don't be alarmed to see me as a girl in the game . I tend to be in the camp of "If I'm going to be starring at a toon's ass for 50+ hours, I'd rather it be a girl" camp. Though I will prally play around with a number of different toons to see which ones I like best.
[ May 03, 2005, 08:01 PM: Message edited by: Xavier ]
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
I plan on grabbing something to eat right now, so I'd do it after dinner Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I'll be home in about 3.5 hours and will make a hero on Protector. I've long suspected that I'm going to have one of each AT on each server eventually anyway...
Xavier, I have 2 female heroes in CoH. Partly for variety, but one of them was specifically to make a hot, scantily dressed super-heroine that people would ogle and then horrible spines burst out of her body! Spines/Dark. Gotta love those powersets where you can't see your costume.
And for future playing, @ReactorRod is my global if I'm on as one of my other heroes.
Edit: And for anyone making new characters who didn't already know: In the tutorial, kill 100 "contaminated" enemies to get the Isolator badge. It goes a lot quicker if you finish the tuturial missions first, but don't go to the contact after the door mission, then team up with other people to do the kill- er, "arresting"
[ May 03, 2005, 08:33 PM: Message edited by: Enigmatic ]
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
BtL: Holy crap, dude, have you been playing CoH for a whole year? It is May now, right?
(I, obviously, will not be CoHing with you, given my feelings about MMORPGs. )
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Dude man, when I think about it I'm shocked and apalled as well. In my defense it was cancelled for most of the time I was at school.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Ah, well, all is forgiven in that case. Posted by SmoG (Member # 7778) on :
Well, I can't get on tonight, but my global chat handel is @Rancorr.... so friend me and we'll talk... Protector is fine with me.... so what are we going for? An EG sg? or a hatrack SG, or just a no theme have fun sg? anyway, is NO ONE going to address Teshi's comment? CRYPTIC?????? man either you are being fasecious(sp?), Teshi, or you have ESP.....N (in case you are wondering Cryptic Studios makes the game.... I think) Boy i'm confused.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
I'm logging for the night. Hopefully we can get this SG up and running this week though.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
SmoG, I think we're just going do a Hatrack SG. Though if you have friends in game who want to join, I don't think we need to limit it to ONLY Hatrackers. IMHO, themed-SGs based on specific works of fiction tend to not be fun. You get way too many of the same type of heroes, and honestly Ender's Game doesn't lend itself to comic-book superheroes.
During the week I suspect I'll be on later than most people, but hopefully I'll play with more of you on weekends.
When we make the SG we need to pick two SG colors. I vote on the pastel yellow and purple that's the background of these posts, as there is no other color set that embodies Hatrack quite so well. (Edit: maybe it's more blue. This monitor's a little wonky.)
Xavier, FF is a great set, but later in game you may find it doesn't go well with Gravity. Gravity's major power is Singularity, so you might want to try something that compliments that. Radiation and Kinetics are both really great with Gravity. (But if grav/FF fits your hero better, ignore that suggestion entirely. The important thing is have fun with what you pick.)
I'm thinking my Hatrack hero will be Enig-o-matic, a robotic elec/elec or elec/dev blaster.
[ May 03, 2005, 10:00 PM: Message edited by: Enigmatic ]
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I'm on now guys. The name is 'Genesis Blue' and my account name is 'Phil Meyer'.
I'm not quite sure how to global tell, but I'll try to figure it out.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Hmmm. Well if Dan is off, I might be spending time in the character generator.
What time do you play Enigmatic?
[ May 03, 2005, 10:15 PM: Message edited by: Xavier ]
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I'm still at work for another 24 minutes, X. And I have a bit of a commute. Took me a while to figure out the global chat system too. I think the command is still /t but all the global names have @ at the beginning. So to send me a tell type "/t @ReactorRod, Hi!" (I think)
At home I have a link I can send you for more on the global chat. I'll actually set us up a Hatrack channel everyone can join so we can talk even on different servers, no matter which character you login as.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
Another go at a Hatracker SG? Count me in. I have an emp/def on Virtue who's lvl 32 at the moment. That's where I play most often. But I do have an old toon back on Protector that I could bring out again. Either that or start something new. Beatha on Protector...Liaison on Virtue...and @Galidh on global. Has anyone else checked out the Arena on the test server? It's loads of fun. Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I am in...what do we need for builds? I have done most of the,...I really like healers and blasters...melee is cool too, but a bit of a pain....
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Enig and I are online right now, but I'm going back to bed soon. We're all new toons on Protector, to date there's an Elec/Elec blaster (Enig O Matic), Stone/Ice tanker (The Canadian Maple) and a Grav/FF Controller (Genesis Blue). But, like I said before, pick whatever you like playing and we'll work it in.
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
Xavier said he had to go to bed but has plans on playing all through the weekend.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Feel free to share any cool Super Group names you can think of too. Whoever hits level 10 first gets to make the final call, of course.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I will probably do either a tank of a rad defender...probably def, we could use one...
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Since pretty much everybody has alts on multiple servers, I've setup a global channel for us, named "Hatrack." This way you can see who all is online and talk no matter what server you're on. Good for getting together to do team stuff. In your chat window click on "Tab" select "Join Channel" and type "Hatrack". Or just type "/chanjoin Hatrack"
Here's a more detailed guide on global chat and setting up chat tabs to use it.
Join the channel and say hello. I'll be on for a bit more tonight and hopefully in the morning tomorrow.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
I'll try and log on this weekend. Should I break out my electric/energy blaster, or my Ill/Kin Controller (who I created BEFORE I knew that this was one of the 'uber' templates).
Or maybe a defender?
-Bok
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
So, here are the circumstances...
Niki (Valentine014), my girlfriend, is going away for a few days (see thread) starting thursday morning and lasting until monday night. Plus, she has class tonight from like 5-9PM.
Since most everything I do here is with her, that leaves many, many hours which I have nothing to do. Considering I just got this bright shiny new game, I can see myself playing it a ton between tonight and monday night.
The question is, what character should I be playing? I could easily get her (my controller) up to level 10, but then should I stop? I could have another character I use for the team if its a problem having me get ahead of everyone. I'm not a power gamer by any means, so even if I was ahead, I would still have fun leveling other people, but then again I wouldn't mind having two characters I play with...
[ May 04, 2005, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: Xavier ]
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
The way I see it, just have one character that you play with other Hatrackers. Bring that character up to level 10, stop, and make another (and another, and another, and another. Once you start you just can't stop making characters). With global chat and global friends you can keep track of who's playing regardless of what server or character they're playing at the time, which will make getting a Hatrack guild together SO much easier. Just as long as you're comfortable with telling other Hatrackers to mess off if you're in the middle of something with another character. And hey, I know I am Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I guess the question then is whether my current character is the one I want to use as my Hatrack character. Will have to think about that, and do a lot of expirementing with other types of characters.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
CoH has a great sidekicking system, so level differences aren't that big a deal if you want to play together. My controller was built specifically as a sidekick to my friend's character (he'd been playing longer and got me into the game). I was in single digits and playing in the high-20 zones. It's nice to be similar levels, but not the end of the world if you're not. You probably will still make a ton of alts, most people seem to.
In other news, the downtime for issue 4 this morning looks like it may go right up until I have to leave for work. I'll be on again tonight around 11pm central, but I probably won't be the first one to hit 10 on protector. My suggestion for the SG: Hatrack Heroes. Simple, to the point, alliterative, and a homonym for jatraqueros (or whoever you spell that). Ranks could be Landmark / ??? / Mayfly. I don't have an idea for the middle-rank yet. Maybe "addict"
Whoever makes it, be sure to pick a symbol and colors when you register the SG. Can't change those later and I've seen a lot of groups stuck with the default.
Enig O Matic
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
quote: CRYPTIC?????? man either you are being fasecious(sp?), Teshi, or you have ESP.....N (in case you are wondering Cryptic Studios makes the game.... I think) Boy i'm confused.
Hm. Given a choice of one or the other, I seem to have ESP.
Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
I'll be starting a new toon on Protector momentarily. I've wanted to make an empathy defender with radiation for a while now...so that's probably what I'll do. As far as SG names go, I'm clueless. I'll leave that to you outrageously witty people. Posted by accio (Member # 3040) on :
quote:I was studying Factor XIII at the time I made the character.
Bob, Were you studying Factor XIII in particular or bleeding disorders in general? Among the bleeding disorders, Factor XIII deficiency is very rare one. I’m just curious.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Factor XIII specifically.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I'm on right now in the hatrack channel. My handle is @Phil. I might be off and on a lot tonight, so post here if I am not on and you want to team up.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I am making a new toon right after I post this...
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
OK...I haevn't logged on in about a week or so, so the updates are killing my comp speed....I will log on when I can, but as of right now it is applying 1 gig....;(
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I think this new patch doesn't like me. Just crashed, then logged back in and crashed immediately. TEH SUX!
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
We had a lot of fun tonight...we are also very close to getting the SG up and running, it will probably happen this week, probably by Sat at the latest.
My Global chat handle is now Kwea...I changed it. Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Yeah, I had lots of fun as well. Its so cool to know that your team is made up of cool people, even before doing anything with them.
Can any of you more experienced players tell (or link) me how your skill sets progress? I have this thing where I plan out my characters/teams/decks for whatever game I'm currently into when I am bored at work.
Does your primary set open up quicker than your secondary? I get flight at 14 if I want, but when can I pick other power pool powers? Do the powers open up in the order they are displayed on your power list? Things of this nature.
I would DL the character builder, but I am at work and that would not be good .
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I found a page over at the city of heroes vault to help me.
It looks like at level 8 I have these choices:
Gravity: Crush Propel Crushing Field
Force Field: Force Bolt
The Force Bolt power I have with my other char is quite useful for soloing, but not as useful for team (from my limited experience with it). I've read some guides that say its useful, others say its not.
The advice from my fellow hatrackers on Propel was not to take it. I've had advice not to take crushing field from others. I don't think I wanna take crush.
The other option is to go with another power pool. I have hover now, and plan on getting flight as soon as I can. I was looking over the other power pools for other possibilities. There's the other travel powers, but Flight is going to be my primary mode. From the non-flight ones, it looks like Leadership could work well. Good team buffs. I hear Stamina is a must, but I don't think I want to spend three powers to get it. So I hope controllers don't need the fitness set. I suppose I can grab hasten from the speed set...
Any advice?
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Xavier, get the program called HeroPlanner. Let's you mess around with power and enhancement choices.
-Bok
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Just not at work....
I like crush, myself, but it isn't a great choice at this level. I would ALWAYS use the Fitness set as a controller, as your powers are always end dependent, a lot more than a melee characters powers are.
Fitness is good for a number of reasons: Health and Stamina. The first, Swift, isn't great, but Health and Stamina are a must in my book, although you don't have to get them right away.
Heals are always useful to a team as well, particularly at these levels, so Medicine isn't a bad thing for a support character to have either.
As a controller, two things matter at a higher level....Pets and Holds. Anything that can hold either one thing really, really well, or hold large groups well....that is the primary focus for Controllers, usually, until they get Pets. Once you get Pets, slot the hell out of them if you can, it really helps.
Just my opinion, of course, there are many different ways to build a successful toon, but those points have been successful for me in the past.
Kwea
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
What Bok said, it's a great little tool.
I'm sorry to say that Stamina is pretty much essential for most powersets. It *is* possible to go without it and slot endredux in all your powers, but you'll probably go ballistic not having it. Mind you, you can get away without it for a while by relying more on your team, and you're welcome to go without it knowing you can always respec into it later, this character is pre issue 4 so you have a free respec banked up anyway.
Hasten is another one that's so crazy useful that most people can't imagine going without. Again, there are some sets that don't need it so much and can get by, but I don't think Grav is one of them. Grav is interesting in that it doesn't have a lot of control powers that totally shut down the enemies so you'll be wanting the ones you do have to cycle as often as possible.
Leadership is great for controllers, particularly tactics. 4-5 slotted with accuracy buffs it acts as an extra accuracy SO in all your powers and everyone else's (including your pets). You have to take maneuvers or assault to get to tactics though. Maneuvers if you can afford to slot it, assault if you can't (now that assault got buffed).
Propel is a *fun* power, but not a *good* power. If you like the idea of throwing cars/forklifts/pool tables/whatever at your enemies then grab it. But it will never do great damage for it's end cost and the animation is a long one. I had it for a while and the coolness wore off after a level or two.
Force Bolt is entirely what you make of it. It's handy to knock away mobs if you accidentally pull aggro from the tank or to knock stragglers closer to the tank or into rad debuffs or just stop that irritating boss from attacking by bouncing him. If you hover right over a mob they get knocked down and not back, so you won't upset melee as much that way. Basically, it's great if you're willing to take the effort to use it (and remember to use it when the opportunity arises) but it's not a lazy man power. I tend to be a lazy man, I tend not to take it
Don't count crushing field out. It's an area of effect immobilization, so you can lock everything around the tank, lock all the mobs around the rad debuff, keep mobs grouped for blaster AoE, and generally control the battle field a little more. It also brings down flyers, which can be handy. Some people love it, some people hate it.
That'd be my take on it, anyway. I'm sure we could have a lot of arguments over what powers to take and when to take them. That's half the fun.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Saturday? Oh ye of little faith.
Hatrack Heroes is up and running NOW. I'll be online for about 20 min longer today, and then again around 11pm central tonight to invite people. I'll probably be on most of Friday, also, but may be running other characters. Join the Hatrack channel or /t @ReactorRod and I'll switch over to Protector to invite you. (You don't need to be level 10 to join, that was just to start it.)
Xavier, there's some great guides on the CoH Forums for pretty much every powerset, though not all of them may be updated for the changes in I4.
Controllers do need Stamina. I recommend swift at somewhere 6-12/health at 16/stamina at 20. Hasten is also good, but not as big a deal until you get some of your slow-recharge powers like Gravity Distortion Field.
Propel used to suck because of the very slow recharge time. Apparently they've upped the damage to make up for that, but I don't know if it's enough to be worth it. It does, however, have the funniest annimation in the game. Propel and Crush are both mostly if you want to solo. Crushing Field is a decent area-effect damage, but only if you slot some damage into it, and you probably have more important places to use those slots. I've never played Force Fields myself, but I hear that Force Bolt is mainly for knocking runners back into the tanker/AoE killzone.
--Enigmatic (will blather about game details until someone stops him)
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
That was a great post Dan, but it basically said that any choice I make will be a good one .
I'll have to consider what you and Kwea wrote. Looks like I'll have a similar choice come level 12 too.
Edit: And now Enigmatic comes through with a good one. *goes to reread all three*
[ May 05, 2005, 01:21 PM: Message edited by: Xavier ]
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Any choice is a good one, provided it's what you're looking for Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Okay, if I take Enigmatic's advice:
8 - PP Swift 10 - FF Insulation Field 12 - ? 14 - PP Fly 16 - PP Health 18 - G Gravity Distortion 20 - FF Disbursement Bubble 22 - PP Stamina 24 - ? 26 - G Singularity
Obviously I'm more concerned about the 12 gap than the 24 one . While we are discussing this, what do you guys think?
At level 12 I will get dimension shift open to me. Any good? It looks like I am using a ton of power pool powers, which sort of stinks for my role playing, but I can get those later I guess. With that in mind, I'd like to throw a gravity power in there, between crush, crushing field, dimension shift or propel. We have lots of time to pick which one though .
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Singularity is a level 32 power, the level 26 one is Wormhole.
I'd take either crushing field or Dimension Shift. You'll get a lot more use out of crushing field but dimension shift is a great "Oh Crap!" power if your group bites off way more than you can chew. It's annoying in that it isn't a toggle so you can find yourself sitting around waiting for mobs to reappear which makes people irritated with you if you use it when you don't need to. Again, it's a question of do you want something you'll probably use every fight or once or twice a level?
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
If you plan on mainly using this character when a bunch of us are teamed up, I would say crushing field. At low to mid levels AoE attacks can be kind of dangerous because they draw a lot of aggro to you, but teamed up with other people who have AoE as well (Me, BtL) they all stack up to drop large groups quick. As others have mentioned, crushing field also keeps mobs close together, so the Radiation debuffs and everyone's AoEs will be hitting everyone.
But again, whatever you take will have some uses. Some powers you just have to get more creative for them to be really effective.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
quote: Singularity is a level 32 power, the level 26 one is Wormhole.
You sure about that Dan?
Both warcry and vault sites list Singularity above wormhole, and a guide I read has wormhole coming last as well.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Quite sure. Singularities are your pets, they're always last. I even just logged into the game to be sure Grav has had their powers adjusted several times since the game came out, it's not surprising that some sites would be out of date.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Though another guide says its the way you stated. Odd. Okay, no prob.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I can confirm Singularity as well, though that's because I have a level 32 Gravity controller. heh. Some of the last few grav powers were switched around fairly early in the game, because they changed some of them. Pets aren't always last though. Illusion gets them pretty early, iirc. Singularity is last because its arguably the strongest pet in the game. They don't do as much damage as some, but each one is a controller in its own right, and they're very, very durable.
I love Singularities. If you want to see what they're like, make a hero on Liberty and I'll show you them in action.
--Enigmatic
Posted by SmoG (Member # 7778) on :
I just wanted to add that the Fitness pool is reccomended for ANY hero. Some can live without it, like regen scrappers, but it will make any build's life easier. I am going to make a char on protector sometime in the next week. I will join the channel, and just so you know me i'm @Rancorr
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
On Fitness: When my friend Troll was showing me the game for the first time, part of the conversation went like this. Troll: "And I just got Stamina the other day, which is the greatest power ever." Me: "Why's that?" Troll: "Because it makes that blue bar there go up faster." Me: "Well, I'm definitely in favor of that."
He did later explain what the blue bar was actually FOR, not that it really mattered. I was already convinced.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
So I've been playing for a while, but no hatracks. Got up to level 8 though.
Post here, or IM me (XavierM01) if you wanna get together (though sometimes it takes me a while to see my AIM).
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Today is my day off, so... While I won't actually be playing CoH all day, I will be making an effort to be logged in and keep an eye on my /tells. So if anybody needs an invite to Hatrack Heroes, it's /t @ReactorRod
Go. Hunt. Kill Skuls.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I'll be on tonight with my controller (and my tank). Look for me to send a tell .
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Okay, on Protector right now, CirriForm, Storm/Electric Defender (crazy me), My handle is @Bokonon
Posted by SmoG (Member # 7778) on :
xavier, did you join the channel? I will get online this weekend, and start my hatrack char...btw how is everyone enjoying I4?
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
It was fun again tonight. I think a bunch of guys are going to be on tomorrow night, so if you can make it we will see you there (although I won;t be on until later).
Kwea
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Wow, do I notice a big diff when hatrackers are playing and when they aren't.
I got 3 levels of XP with them in about 2-2.5 hours. Then they leave, and an hour later I have 2 more bars. Teams sort of stink don't they. Hatrack teams are spoiling me. Perhaps I will have an alt who can solo for the downtime.
Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
I think I got a total of 4 levels today. 3 of which were with super awesome Hatrack efficiency. I hope to play tomorrow quite a bit (Saturday). Sunday is my b-day so I don't know how available I'll be. Having my global handle as Galidh is confusing me. It's my brother's toon name, so I'll most likely be changing it to Liaison. You can do that right? ...was just thinking, I'm not the only female Hatracker who's playing CoH am I? Anyways, see y'all soon.
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
I want to. So badly. Maybe if the price point goes down a little. But will my computer even be able to run it? Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
What are the stats on your computer, Ryuko?
You can change teh global chat handle once, but only once....I just changed mine to Kwea two nights ago.
I leveled 3 times with my Tank, Kwea ( ) last night, but those were all early levels too, as he was only level 2 when we started. I DO find that we level much faster as a group playing together, but there is also the act that we were leveling lower level charcters then as well, and they level faster at those levels than in later levels.
I am logging on now...turns out I had the weekends mixed up, and DIDN'T have to work this morning.
Even thoug I got up at 7, showered, and put a suit on...then drove in to work for 8. I haven't made that mistake in about 10 years....
[ May 07, 2005, 09:49 AM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
quote: I leveled 3 times with my Tank, Kwea ( [Smile] ) last night, but those were all early levels too, as he was only level 2 when we started. I DO find that we level much faster as a group playing together, but there is also the act that we were leveling lower level charcters then as well, and they level faster at those levels than in later levels.
The three levels I was referring to were 8-11 with my controller . I did also go from 4-5.5 with my tanker when we were leveling Bok.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
If you don't care about the geekery behind XP and grouping, skip this post.
There are two reasons we leveled faster in the group (three if you count "We're just so good!"). First is there's actually an XP bonus for teaming. I don't know the exact percentages, partially because they've changed them. But let's say an enemy's worth 100 xp and 4 of us fight him. It's split 4 ways = 25 xp, but there's a bonus, so each of us will actually get 30 xp or so. The other reason is more obvious, simply that 4 people with complimentary powers working together will defeat more in 1 hour than the if they'd split up and were fighting individually.
My favorite trick for fast leveling (NOT powerleveling) is sometimes called double-dipping. When you get hunt missions (Defeat X SomeVillainGroups) try to stack them. If the hunt mission doesn't have to be in a particular zone you can even do this with door missions. ("defeat 10 clockwork" and "defeat all clockwork in building") This way you get 2 or 3 chunks of mission-bonus XP for the same group of enemies.
For missions, doing the missions for the highest-level person in the group means the most XP, even the mission-bonus XP scales up if it's higher than your level. You can also talk to certain contacts to increase your mission difficulty, which has the same effect.
Enough overanalyzation, time for me to go play. --Enigmatic
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I know why nobody's posted in this thread today: Every other hatracker who plays city of heroes didn't have to go to work today so you're all playing instead of posting! Grrrrrr...
(or spending time with your moms, whichever.)
Anyway, I suggest we try to do the first Task Force next weekend! Level range is 10-16, though I highly recommend 14-16, partly because of travel powers partly because TFs are hard. TFs take a couple of hours, are super fun, tons of XP and an SO enhancement and a badge at the end. For best speed 4-5 heroes is ideal, but if we have more hatrackers on by then, great!
--Enigmatic
PS: for those of you not playing City of Heroes, START!
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Hey Enig! (Or would you prefer Brian? I call Bob the Lawyer Dan, so that would make sense. Of course I don't know what Liason or Kwea's real names are...)
I tried to post this right before the forum crash on sunday. I wanted to tell you that I thought the task force would be awesome, from what I hear of them anyway.
Genesis Blue is now level 16 and a half. Would she still be viable for the TF? Kwea, from last I saw, was around 10-11, Dan 13, and Liason 14 (if I remember correctly).
Oh and the reason I don't feel bad about getting a bit ahead of you guys is cause I won't have nearly as much time to play now that Niki is back. Probably mostly monday and wednesday nights, with weekends perhaps? And if I play much more than that, I have a tanker alt that I like playing with as well.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Yes, you can do the first TF as long as you're 16 when we start it. You can (and probably will) level up during the course of the TF. It will take a couple of hours to complete, so we should probably plan on a friday afternoon or sometime saturday. Whatever works for everyone.
Oh, and I don't particularly care what you call me, as long as I can recognize that I'm the one you're talking to.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
But don't get level 17 till then?
That wouldn't be too hard, but is this a sure thing you think?
I probably won't be playing much tonight, but if I am going to be saving her for a task force, I would like to know she is going to do one .
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Well, I can't speak for everyone else. But I love doing TFs. This first one only needs 3 people to start it, and since there's no ArchVillain, can actually be finished with just one or two. So tell ya what: Even if nobody else wants to do it, I'll duo the whole bloody thing with you.
--Enigmatic (is committed) (or should be)
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
That's cool. Perhaps if more players are interested, We'll try to set a time .
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I really like Crushing Field, at least when a teammate has it..it works wonders when properly slotted. As Bob said, it helps keep everything grouped nice, which can be important.
I am enjoying playing a tank now, since my main is a blaster, but I want to play around with some builds I never got to try before. I want to play a Controller, and I probably will start a scrapper as well, and maybe even another type of blater eventually.
Kwea
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I can, as long as you let me know when...although I will be working this Thursday and Friday nights, though. I do have every Monday night open, and most othrs most weeks, this week is just a weird one as people at work too vacations.
I would like to do a TF....the good thing about TF's is that you can log out and come back to it at a later date, as long as you don't quit the TF when logging. You can't do any misions in th meantime, although you can still hunt solo or with other TF members, but if we can only arrange the TF for Monda nights, we can meet every Monday until it is done....or whatever, you get the point.
We all have alts, so doing this shouldn't screw anyone up much....
Kwea is level 11, almost 12, IIRC.
Kwea
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I think Saturday afternoonish would probably be best. By the time I get home on weeknights most other people are about ready to log off, or pretty close. I'm not too big on the idea of trying to do it once a week in chunks, as that could easily winding up tying up those characters for a month.
My suggestion: Everyone try to get one alt to at least 14 and take a travel power by the weekend. That way we'd have a realistic shot at finishing the TF in 3-4 hours, especially if 4 or 5 of us are on.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Or if Liasion is on, he has tp, so he can tp us there too.
This weekend I am working until at least 5....how about after that?
Kwea is now level 12, so I might be able to do it....
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kwea: What are the stats on your computer, Ryuko?
Copying from my properties: Toshiba Satellite, Celeron Processor 1.50GHz, 512 MB of RAM.
I haven't added anything, since it's a laptop, so it comes with two years ago's video card and whatnot. :/ Do you think I could be able to play it?
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I think so, Ryuko. My current video card is more than 2 years old. Your other stats should be fine. MMORPGs aren't as ridiculous on the graphics as FPSs, and you can disable options like shadows and whatnot if the video isn't quite up to snuff.
Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
Liaison is currently 15. I'll be available Thursday through Sunday afternoon, so my schedule is pretty wide open. I have finals on Monday and Tuesday and then I get to be a slacker for a while. And Xavier...Kwea has been calling me Lia in game, which works well for quickness. L works too, but Allie is my real name, so feel free to take your pick. Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
Mmm... Maybe I'll pick it up, if I get any birthday money.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Okay, here's my schedule.
I am busy tonight (going out to dinner) until like 9-10PM (all times in Central Time). I might be playing after that, hard to say.
Tomorrow I am free all day until like 5:30-6PM. Saturday would be best for me I would say.
Sunday I will be busy until at least 6:30PM, but free until like 10PM that night.
Think we can work this out?
I kept Genesis Blue at 16 (which I think Lia now is) she has fly, so getting around a board is pretty easy. Her enhancements kinda stink, cause I have been waiting till level 17 to get some level 20 DOs. Currently I have both Insulation Shield and Deflection Shield six-slotted with +Defense Buffs, but I was thinking I would throw an endurance reduction in both powers. When a team of 8 loses its bubbles, it takes me my entire endurance bar to get them all back up (though I am pretty quick about it). I give everyone both bubbles at all times, but perhaps I should do it more situation based. Like only deflection if noone seems to be doing any elemental or energy attacks. The problem is I am still kinda noobish about which enemies do what. Regardless, any team she is in doesn't die very often .
I have been playing with my alt in the meantime, and he is up to level 12. He has all level 15 DOs, because some dude gave me 100,000 influence for no apparent reason. I spent like 35,000 of it on the DOs . Heh, I even got a damage one slotted for brawl, which I regret, since its a waste of my endurance anyway.
I've noticed that Genesis Blue (my controller) doesn't get invited to teams very often (once every 20 minutes), even when she has "Seeking Any Team" selected. Code Green (my tanker) gets invited every 2-3 minutes even when I have "Not seeking a team" selected. The funny thing is that I've found Genesis Blue to be a much bigger help to a team. Her bubbles and holds work wonders during a mish. While Code Green absorbs a good deal of aggro and damage, teams still seem to die when they group with me, and they just don't with Genesis. Ah well, the bias against controllers is part of the reason I really like them . I like surprising my teammates.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I'm about to go out for dinner but will probably be on CoH later tonight. Pretty much any time Saturday would work for me for the TF. Perhaps start around noon (central time)? Then we should be done before 5:30 fairly easily. Anyone else going to make it? I haven't seen BtL on in quite a while.
On controllers: Expect more invites to start in the low-20s. Most controllers pick up aoe holds at 18 and so their contribution is more easily noticed in a group. A lot of people don't really get how much you're helping the team unless they see the green heal numbers above their heads, sadly. If you want invites to pick up just put "Bubbler" in your seeking team blurb.
My highest level heroes are a defender and a controller. People often ask either "can you heal???" Well, sure, but if I need to then I haven't done the other 99% of my job that well.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
I really haven't been playing that much lately. My connection is pretty flakey right now and goes down every few minutes, making gaming pretty much a no go. Rogers, of course, swears up and down that it's not on their end.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Well, I am out then, unless you can wait to play until after 5 pm, EST, because I have to work.
I will be logging on in about 10 min tonight, though...perhaps we can start the TF tonight, so if I get out of work early tomorrow I can still join in for part of teh TF....you can start a TF then all log, and when you log on tomorrow it would be still active, as long as you DON'T quit the team before you log.
Kwea
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Dang, sounds like Kwea and Xavier's times for saturday are mutually exclusive. I'll plan on being on saturday if people do want to get it going, otherwise my availability on sunday would be 7:30pm or later, because of work. If people want to do the TF without me, that's cool. (I've done it at least 5 times with other characters, and there's always our next round of alts, too!) I'm basically saying it's up to X, because I think most of the rest of us have done TFs already, but this is not something to miss on your first hero through the game.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
Ahhh! Okay...I'll be getting on right now I think. I'll be playing tomorrow too. The Ahhh! part is that my sg on Virtue is having a huge go at the Manticore TF...like 3 teams going at once. It's scheduled for noon pst. Looks like tomorrow's going to be hectic. I'll figure something out...I really don't want to miss doing the TF with you guys.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Tomorrow at noon sounds excellent. Are you and Kwea going to start it tonight? I hope Lia can make it... I got home pretty late tonight (as you can tell), so I'm probably not going to log on. I'm pretty darn tired. I've found that my enjoyment goes down big time when I am tired.
Oh and if we don't finish tomorrow (a definite possibility) wanna finish up sunday night (or Monday even better).
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Everyone who's going to be in the TF has to be on when we start it. Can't add people later on. Though as Kwea explained, once its started we can log off if it's not finished and still be in the TF later. I could finish sunday or monday, though monday would have to be kinda late, like 11pm or so.
Lia: 3 teams doing the same TF at once? They couldn't do anything to affect each other's missions, so I'm not sure I see how that would work. Is it just EVERYONE that wants to do the TF is going to gather and make however many teams it takes to fit them all?
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I wnated everyone to log on tonight...sorry, guess I wasn't clear enough.
Lets try it again:
When you start a TF, every person who wants to be on that TF has to be there to start it, for two reason...most TF missions take a minimum number of people to start...3 is the fewest, for the first one, but some of them require 6 or more....and once you begin a TF, unlike a regular team, you can't add ANYONE at all until the TF is completed.
That is why you can't quit the team when logging...of you quit, there is no way to re-add you to the TF team. You have to finish teh TF mission with the same original crew, or at least some of them, because there is no way to add players to teh team....and you can't do any other missions, except just run around and hunt, until teh TF is done as well.
If you just log off, when you log back on you can just meet up with the others who are still in the TF, and play from there.
Kwea
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Well I didn't log on last night, sorry. I went to sleep almost immediately after my post.
Can we still do this? I'm logged in right now.
Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
Yep, that's how it's going to work Enig. Our sg schedules these only once in a great while, so it's kind of a big deal. I'm on right now. I'll put priority on our TF though so we have enough. Actually...if you guys do it over two days I could join yours, log without quitting, do the TF on Virtue, and rejoin with you guys later when we finish... That's a little complicated though. Hehe.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Going to log on now, although not for long, maybe an hour...
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Logging on now, for a little bit...
Well, I am trying to, but the servers are down.....not all of them, half of them, including the two I use....Virtue and Protector.
[ May 15, 2005, 06:29 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
OK, I am on, as the servers came back up.
I have a question...I have not done any sewer valz missions, but there are permanate little circles floating about my head like I was infected with that stupid Valz disease....anyone remember how to get rid of that? IIRC, those little bubbles reduce dam dealing by something like half....
Kwea
Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
I won't have a chance to be on until Tuesday...maybe late Monday. I'm not sure about the little bubbles. I wonder if clear mind works to alleviate that...of course that doesn't really help you. Dunno. *shrugs*
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
If you're thinking of the Vahzilok wasting disease, it's not little bubbles it's a bunch of greenish flies. You'd also see it as a temp power with an icon in your status effects row.
The "little bubbles" effect sounds like the disorient graphic, and I've seen that get stuck on after the disorient is over, for a long time. Probably just a graphics bug.
Wasting disease cuts down your health, endurance, regeneration, and recovery. I'd say if you did have it, YOU'D KNOW.
Posted by Lazer King (Member # 4580) on :
I have a Blaster ,but I play on justice his name is ThEAiLEN lvl 8 Im been trying to get him to ten then start a SG Im stuck on 8 any tips to get to ten I can a guy up to 5 fast ill try to get him to ten quick what do you need (archtype). Hatman? ... Oh yah long time no post
[ May 16, 2005, 12:29 AM: Message edited by: Lazer King ]
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Yeah, I logged and logged back in, and it was gone. Must have been teh disorient bug...it was teh same graphic I see over foes heads when I hit them with a good Energy Punch.
Kwea
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
OK, logging on now....
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I have a new favorite toon now, an illusion/rad controller. I had played rad before as a defender and really liked it, and wanted to play a contrller, so I combigned them.
I have never played a toon that was easier to leve...her powers make the whole team better, so we did really well....
And she got from level 2 to level 11 in two days of playing her.
Kwea
Posted by JenniK (Member # 3939) on :
On right now....
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I haven't been on much in the last week or so, but hope to be this weekend. Also, I have the "Plague Stopper" badge mission lined up. If anybody else needs that badge let me know.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
logging on now....
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Well, I bought the game today, after recommendations from people at work. What server should I go to?
PS: I'm thinking about either Controller or Defender.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Protector!
I was playing from 11 to about noon central time. I'll probably be on after breakfast for a bit. I'll use a low level char to hang out with ya if you want .
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Though I would need your global chat handle, or your character name if you do want.
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Protector it is. I think my archetype will be controller. I'll give you the name as soon as I create it. It's uploading stuff right now, so probably in about an hour I'll be all set.
I was reading the online game manual last night, and I do have things already planned out, so once I get to char creation, should go by fast.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
One thing about controllers is that they cannot solo past level 8 or so up until they get their pets at level 32. That fact made me frustrated enough to make a tanker for when I can't find a team. They can be a blast to play though.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
I say Ice / Empathy Controller to make it easy to handle purples!
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Or if you want to make a nigh-unstoppable character, make a Dark Melee & Regeneration Scrapper.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Actually Nathan, me and Niki are gonna go to the zoo this afternoon. I'll be on tonight though, if anyone still is on. Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Ok, introducing my first character: The Gray Crow.
Silly.
Anyway, I went with the magic/controllor route with Levitation and Forcefield as my two powers. I'm assuming I can create more super heros though, right?
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
You mean a magic origin contoller with gravity/force field? Haha, thats exactly what my first character was. She is now level 17. Great minds think alike and all that.
Edit: now going to the zoo, have fun!
Edit2: and yes, you can make I think 8 characters on each server. So thats like 80 chars! Feel free to expirement.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Note: Don't slot up things like sprint and brawl, Nathan. I made that mistake with my first toon, and had to erase him. Also, always carry one Awaken.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Darn. I created an Ice / Fire Tanker just to thwart some villains, Nathan! Been a long time since I played CoH.
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
I made a secondary hero named 'Cliche Goku'. I bet you can guess his appearance.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I was looking for you, newb, but didn;t see you.
My main is Catriona Lee, a level 16 (almost 27) Cont....
I also have a number of "small fry", let me know when you are on and we can meet up. Also, I can invite you to the Sg... Kwea
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Anyone playing tonight? I'll be on as Gray Grow tonight.
Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
I might be on in a little while. I'll look for you. My global handle is @Liaison.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Nate, I am at my parents house right now, so I can't play tonight, but I will probably be on as either Catriona Lee or as a new character.
What is your Global Chat name? I will add it to my global chat list.
Mine is Kwea, of course.
Kwea
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Nate, I was looking for you for quite a while.
Post here when you are going to be on next, ok, even if it is just before you log on.
Kwea
[ May 31, 2005, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Yeah, I got on, got off and went to bed earlier than I thought I thought I would.
As far as global chat thingies, beats me. All I know is my characters name is Gray Crow or Cliche Goku.
I'll probably be on tomorrow night around 7'ish.
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
And I'll be on for 30 minutes right now.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
What server are you guys in? My sons and I are in Justice. I'm a level 8 defender. I think that the kids are level 6 and level 8 natural blasters.
I'm playing because the kids asked me to, but I'm having fun. We loved playing Gauntlet together and this is SO much better.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
We are all on Protector. It was a compromise, as the original Hatrack SG was on Virtue. We wanted to all be about the same level, and most of my toons there on Virtue are in their 20's....and my main, and elec/elec blaster, is 45.
None of us really had any toons on Protector, so we restarted there.
Nate, check under the options tab, it will tell you what your global chat is for your account. Global chat means that you can talk to people across teh servers.
There is also a SG we will invite you to join, tonight if you are on, and a chat channel, Hatrack. Play around with the chat window, you will see how to join a channel.
Kwea
[ June 01, 2005, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Ok, it is @Gray Crow. I'm on right now. I have a desktop that I'm playing it on, while posting with my laptop.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
Cool beans! I don't know if we can play tonight (school night and all) but we'll definitely play Friday and Saturday.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I will be on shortly....give me about min to eat first.
I will be on as Catriona Lee....at least as first.
Nate, what level are you now?
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
7
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Cool. I won't be right on, my SIL needs to borrow our computer for something....
Sorry, but I will be on later.
Kwea
[ June 01, 2005, 08:10 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by Lazer King (Member # 4580) on :
I don't know who I will use. I will either use a guy named IcyHealer (controller) or a guy named StonalizedChicken (tanker). I'm pretty sure I'll use StonalizedChicken.
P.S. I am LadyDove's son can I join the SG. Can I join the SG?
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Sure you can Lazer King.
Oh and I bet I met you once, at your Mom's house at one of the hatracker gatherings last year. I was one of the anonymous guys sitting around the living room while you and Mooselet were playing .
Anyway, are you going to be on tonight? My global chat handle is @Phil, what's yours?
Edit: Oh and is anyone else going to be on tonight?
Posted by Lazer King (Member # 4580) on :
I'm the only one willing to start a new guy tonight. My global handle is @Japanese B'Boy.
Going on as stonalized chicken see you on.
Posted by Lazer King (Member # 4580) on :
Sorry I had to change my name someone already had that name. Now I'm StonAChicken.
[ June 03, 2005, 01:21 AM: Message edited by: Lazer King ]
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I'm going to be playing off and on throughout today. If anybody wants to team or get an invite to the SG give a shout in the hatrack global chat channel or /t @ReactorRod
--Enigmatic
Posted by Lazer King (Member # 4580) on :
Xavier, When will you be on ,so my mom and I can join the SG? --Lazer King
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I can get on right now .
Posted by Lazer King (Member # 4580) on :
Xavier, May I change the toon thats on the SG? --Lazer King
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
YOu can have multilpes in it if you want, I know I do...
Not that I play anymore....
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Lazer King, last time I was on (which was a while ago) I promoted your mom to the level she needed to invite new people into the supergroup. She should be able to help you. Or Lia, if she still plays.
Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
Yep, I still play, but only occasionally. It's my brother's computer that I play on so it isn't available super often.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
The good old days.....does anyone still play this?
I have soem friends who do, and am thinking about reactivating my account, if I can remember any info about it that is.....lol....
4 years and two states later. Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I guess not....
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
I still play. Sometimes. Getting increasingly fed up with some aspects of the game, though... Beginning to wish the whole PvP community would take a long walk off a short pier.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I never did the PVP aspect, as I quit just before CoV came out. What parts of it do you like, vs the parts you don't?
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
How do I put this without it sounding like sour grapes...?
There are real advantages to be had outside the PvP zones from gaining things that are only to be had inside the PvP zones. In particular, the "Shivan Shard" power, which enables the player to summon a powerful pet to assist in combat five times.
Gaining this power involves visiting a series of asteroids, defeating the stationary defenses of a "firebase" to process the asteroid fragments into a sample, and returning the sample to a contact. If at any time in the process you are defeated by an enemy player, you lose all the progress you've made in that progression.
So, basically, you have a power that the most physically vulnerable characters would love to have (it's extremely valuable, especially for doing many missions solo)... And then you force them to deal with players who see PvP as an extension of their extracurricular "pulling the wings off of butterflies" activities to get it.
Most character types simply aren't well suited to PvP unless they travel in large groups. They get hit by *one* power that stuns, sleeps, holds, or immobilizes, they become sitting ducks. It doesn't feel like "real" PvP in a lot of ways; it feels like "whoever shoots first, wins."
Worsening the problem is the villain class "Stalkers", whose emphasis is on stealth and assassination. If they hit from concealment, they do enough damage in a single hit to immediately kill many players. Worsening the problem is that the designers, apparently bowing to a vocal Stalker contingent, recently modified the Stalker class so a) if they *miss* with an Assassination Strike, they don't become visible and b) it is virtually impossible to see a hidden Stalker, no matter what Perception-boosting powers one has, from a distance of more than 10 feet. Try finding a Stalker in a couple of cubic miles of space (remembering the three dimensional aspect), and you begin to see the problem. Stalker players have complained, with some reason, that Stalkers are a one-trick pony and taking that trick away from them isn't fair. But in the meantime, you read absolutely ludicrous message board exchanges where people in all seriousness suggest that players wouldn't be as vulnerable to Stalkers if they simply spent every single moment they spend in PvP zones leaning on the jump key.
PvP has become completely inaccesable to characters who aren't designed from the get-go with PvP in mind, and both players and characters who have the audacity to visit such zones without such a build are often treated with contempt. (And I say this as someone who *has* designed characters that have achieved 3-1 or better ratios of kills to deaths in PvP.) Or players who hope to glean benefits like the Shivan shard end up doing so only when there are no other players in PvP, which seems to be defeating the purpose.
I wish they would either make PvP less hostile and unforgiving to newcomers or take away virtually all the benefits that can only be accrued in PvP. Because right now, the "hardcore" PvP players are mostly a bunch of griefers and lowlifes. I get really tired of seeing someone "hold" or assassinate some poor Controller over and over who never has a chance to respond like it actually says bupkus about their own abilities.
There are "arena" matches in which teams of players can fight other teams of players, including heroes vs. heroes, and that's great. There are also people who volunteer to fight other characters one-on-one in a prearranged location, and that's great, too. (You don't gain XP debt for being defeated by another player, but if you're attacked by a player in a zone with environmental enemies, it's entirely possible and even likely that you'll actually be taken down by an environment enemy despite the enemy player doing the majority of the damage, which does cause XP penalty.) But there are players who will "camp" in areas where people need to go to get benefits like the Shivan Shard, killing the same players over and over, and that's... Just... Lame.
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I haven't made that mistake in about 10 years....![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
. Heh, I even got a damage one slotted for brawl, which I regret, since its a waste of my endurance anyway. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
I can a guy up to 5 fast ill try to get him to ten quick what do you need (archtype). Hatman? ![[Hat]](graemlins/hat.gif)
... Oh yah long time no post![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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