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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
I defeated my friend Dan in Warhammer 40k!!!! He says he was tired but I still beat him!

we had a map with only 2 entrances to each others bases I had 2 squads at the south one and 4 at the north one. Soon I had 3 artillery (whirlwind thingies) bombarding his position. Then when I got an extra 2 squads and 3 dreads I MOVED my entire army to his southern entrance but kept my arties at his north, using this deception to trick him to thinking that I still had my entire army at his North. He eventually attacked but it was too late as I had already overwhelmed his main base and was marching towards the northern secondary base.

VICTORY FOR THE EMPIRE!
 
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
 
BANZAI!!!!!!!!!!

(I've never played Warhammer, but a win's a win! [Big Grin] )
 
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
BANZAI!!!!

EDIT:: I originall at "Sieg Hiel" but decided it wasnt politically correct. Banzai however is more political correct for soem odd reason.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Some odd reason?


That was assinine.
 
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
huh?
 
Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
 
Eich.

Regardless, this game seems adequatly complicated to ensare my mind were I to play it once. Smart beast that I am, I shall hence avoid it.
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
Banzai! - The traditional Japanese cheer, meaning "10,000 years".

Sieg Heil! - Sieg Heil! or "Hail to Victory" (lit., Sieg "victory" Heil "welfare") was a common Nazi chant at rallies, especially after the speeches of Adolf Hitler.

BIG effing difference. That is what is asinine, Sid. I would think it obvious.
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
Hey, have I just commited an act of Godwin's Law?
 
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
Okay I prefered banzai since I love Sino-Japanese culture though Banzai is the equivilent of "Sieg Hiel" both usually mean "Victory!" Just that while plenty of people including westerners will usally say Banzai as opposed to Sieg Hiel and other military shouts to victory. When I said some odd reason I figured there was a reason why which one was more politically correct especially to winning a computer game I just felt lazy and didn't want to do research on something I didn't consider important.
 
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
 
Would you please at laest spell the damn phrase correctly? It's "Heil". As in, "hail and well met, good fellow."

That aside, if you consider "Banzai" to be as offensive as "Sieg Heil", why in Heaven's name would you use it as a thread title? It does not amuse. Particularly in the context of winning a silly wargame.
 
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
Thats the thing I don't consider it offencive, and I don't know why thats why I said "some odd" because I think or do certain things without knowing why. There is usually a reason but I don't know it.
 
Posted by Alcon (Member # 6645) on :
 
Thats odd... I never ascociate Banzai with victory but more as a battlecry yelled when doing something suicidal. Perhaps becuase it was a cry commonly ascociated with the Japanese suicide bombers.

I can see what Sid Meier means, about not understanding why one is more politically correct than the other.

They both mean victory in their respective language.

They were both used by enemies of the west during world war II.

Those enemies both committed horrible atrocities (anyone who knows anything about the pacific in WWII can tell you the Japanese definately committed their fair share).

The reason probably has something to do with the fact that 'seig heil' brings to mind Hitler and Hitler is a lot more famous in his atrocities than the Japanese, becuase he targeted a single large group and did a lot of damage to them. The Japanese just kind of did a lot of damage to a lot of people period, but didn't target any particular group for extermination (far as I know). For some reason we look at targetting a particular group of people for extermination as worse than just killing lots of people period. Personally I think that that kind of distinction is stupid. Dead is dead, and killing isn't good whether you target one group to wipe out or just kill lots of random people.

Anyway, neither of those words really ought to be pollitically incorrect. They both mean 'victory', one's in German the other's in Japanese.

[ June 06, 2005, 12:01 AM: Message edited by: Alcon ]
 
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
 
I might note that 'Sieg Heil' is associated particularly with Nazi ideology. 'Banzai' is a more general Japanese victory shout, it has been used by honourable soldiers as well as the WWII rulers.
 
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
Ah there we go, I can rest in peace of mind now.
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
quote:
I might note that 'Sieg Heil' is associated particularly with Nazi ideology. 'Banzai' is a more general Japanese victory shout, it has been used by honourable soldiers as well as the WWII rulers.
Which is essentially what I said. Apparently, it takes someone to put both into sentence form for some people to understand.
 


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