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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
So a friend just introduced me to this pretty cool Galactic Conquest strategy game, and since a large part of success seems to be alliance-building, I think we should get a Hatrack Galactic Council going!

It's free to play. There some annoying popups, so turn your blockers on or use a browser that doesn't let them pop to the front. It has a real-time resource system that limits how much you can play in a day, so you don't have to worry about not being good because you only log on for a few minutes a day. (How much tending your empire actually needs seems to vary as it grows).

If anyone is interested in playing, start a character in Universe 5 (It's the newest, so fewer big established players) and post your info here. Like so:

Name: Enigmatic
Planet: Dark Matter
Location: 3:64:4

Once we develop space travel we can trade, help each other colonize and conquer and rule the galaxy as father and son! errr... as a bunch of forummates, anyway.
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
Earth
Peter Wiggin
3:275:12

I took before any of you could
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I'll bite:

sarcasticmuppet
This Land
*coordinates deleted*

[ May 31, 2005, 12:37 PM: Message edited by: sarcasticmuppet ]
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
I suspect that because the word "game" is in the domain name it'll be blocked from my place of work. And I was just sitting here thinking that I really ought to conquer the galaxy...
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
Try building a solar plant, if you hadnt yet. Also try turning off you deuterium/crystal mines inorder to save energy. Try building 2 solar plants off the bat then work on mines.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
So . . . it takes 2000 metal to build a metal storage facility, but if you don't have a metal storage facility you can only store up to 1000 metal?
 

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Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
I think you can only store up to 100,000 metal.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Fugu is right, limits are 100k before building storage.

I've actually started in 2 different universes, 1 my friends are in and 1 for hatrack. For early building you want to focus on solar plant to power your mines and metal mines to supply for later buildings. I didn't bother with a crystal mine right away (like until metal 3 or so), because your initial supply will be enough to build several buildings.

My planet is currently:
Metal 4
Crystal 3
Deuterium 1
Solar 5

In about an hour I'll be able to upgrade the deuterium synthesizer, and then will be saving for research lab.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
*thumbs up*
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Tip I just found out the hard way: Don't be in any big rush to build the research lab, make sure you have very strong resource production first. The first two things you can choose to research require a LOT of crystal and deuterium.

Computer tech: 400 crystal / 600 deuterium
Energy tech: 800 crystal / 400 deuterium

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Levo -- 3:293:8

I use my Hatrack screenname.
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
heh
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Played Escape Velocity, did you?
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Mmmm, sweet, delicious Escape Velocity. I liked the Star Wars mod best. There's nothing like flying around your very own star destroyer.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
I swear those k 's looked like zeros when I looked at it before.
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Confession, for the enjoyment of fellow EV lovers: I had to resist the urge to name myself Stud Beefpile or Rick Hardslab for this new game.

Every few years I dust of one incarnation of EV or another (the original or Nova, usually) and play some more.
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
It's automatic.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
Thanks. So you guys going to start a Hatrack alliance?
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
It'll be a while, since we can't do that until we can communicate in-game, and we won't be able to do that until everyone has spaceflight capability, I think...
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
In Universe 5 I have firends alrdy there meh. But I'll be friendly, just dont be too juch of atempting target.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
On my metal mine, it has says under energy red 24/24. Does that mean it needs more energy for more metal, or what?
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Nope, it just means that it uses 24 energy units. Your energy income (e.g. from a solar plant) is in green further down.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
name: MEC
Planet: Terra

[ May 31, 2005, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: MEC ]
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Do you get to name the planets you colinize?
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
Don't know... I know in galactic Civilizations you could.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
well if I can, I plan to name my first Ragol, if I am still here.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
I'll see how this goes:

Player Name: Tstorm
Planet Name: Festivo
Coordinates: (Censored )

Lessee...building metal mines, power plants, and the basics.

[ May 31, 2005, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Tstorm ]
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Can you do research and build structures at the same time?
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Player Name: Vasslia Cora
Planet Name: Dxun

[ May 31, 2005, 02:43 AM: Message edited by: Vasslia Cora ]
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
I don't know. I'm still just building mines and power plants.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I believe so, but have not yet had the resources to test out that theory. It seems that research takes so much deuterium, and deuterium takes so much energy, that you may be better off getting a flow of around 200/hour on metal and crystals before putting much into deuterium. That way you can afford the massive solar plant upgrades you need to support a good-sized deuterium mine.

I'd rushed into getting deuterium and a research plant on my first planet (other universe) and it's been sitting there for hours, not doing anything becauses I don't have the resources to research anything. (see earlier post)

--Enigmatic

Edit: Or just build your deut synth as the last thing before you're done building for the day, so you get a slow trickle going overnight.
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
CaySedai
(location edited to prevent this information from falling into the wrong hands. )

[ May 31, 2005, 07:26 AM: Message edited by: CaySedai ]
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 

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Or just build your deut synth as the last thing before you're done building for the day, so you get a slow trickle going overnight.

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That may or may not be what I have just done.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I built up my powerplant and metal mine, so now I'm just waiting an hour for my metal to come in so I can spend it on a level 3 metal mine. Then I'm broke on just about everything. Any sugjestions on what I should build instead?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Name: Beren
Planet: Cindy

[ May 31, 2005, 02:38 AM: Message edited by: Beren One Hand ]
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
Game Guide

Their suggestion: Build - order: S1, M1, M2, S2, M3, K1, S3, M4, k2; S4, D1, S5, M5, K3... (solar1, mine1, mine2, solar2, mine3, crystal1, solar3 ... )

I didn't pay attention, build one (each) of the first four, then another mine. Now I've got power problems, which I'm temporarily handling by shutting down the crystal mine and deuterium synthesizer. Waiting for metal to build up so I can upgrade the solar plant. Oh, well, I can do other stuff while that's going on.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
Name:Wowbagger
Planet:Draconis
Location: SECRET

[ May 31, 2005, 08:40 AM: Message edited by: Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged ]
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
I built a robot factory this morning. I've always wanted one.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
Mine's underway! Sleeping is way better than waiting for your metal and deuterium to add up. And I have 2 points.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
How do you get points? Also, I have pretty good resources now, should my next project be a robot factory or a research lab? I want to get a shipyard built (which you need robots for)so I can build a fleet, but should I have decent research first?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Who is building the descolada virus?
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I don't know exactly how the points work. It seems you get them for reaching certain levels in various buildings, but I've had points show up quite a while after I'd built anything. There may be a delay in calculating the score, to make it less transparent.

I would recommend research lab before robot factory. There's a lot of research that you need to do before you can build anything with your shipyard. You'll need both eventually, obviously. The advantage of building the robots first would be that things take less time to build. For me at least, I'm waiting on resources more than I'm waiting on build time. (except first thing in the morning when there's a stockpile, of course.)

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 

code:

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Resources on planet "Levo"
                         M       D        C        E
Basic Income	           20	  10	  0	  0
Metal Mine (level 3)	   119	   0	   0	   39/39	
Crystal Mine (level 3)	 0	 79	 0	 39/39	
DeutSyn (level 3)	 0	 0	 47	 79/79	
Solar Plant (level 5)	 0	 0	 0	 161	

Sum:	                 139	 89	 47	1

 

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My waste is down to one energy unit. So very efficient!
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
you get one point for every 1000 units of resouces you have built up. Resources are counted at certain increments throughout the day. You only lose them if things like spaceships get destroyed.

Twink, how do you get rid of waste?
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
By upgrading your mines/synthesizer until you're using as much of your available energy as possible.
 

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Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
 
Dro_Trebor
NGKA
3:323:4
 

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Posted by Mr.Funny (Member # 4467) on :
 
Does anyone else have an account on universe 4? I started one on universe 4 because Shigosei is playing on universe 5 and I don't want to risk either of our accounts being banned for multiplaying. On universe 4, I am:

Mathmavin
Tenalp
3:118:10
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
I have 4 points! And robots.
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
I have 3 points! And robots. And a highly efficient resource collection structure.

Edit: Curses! I forgot that dkw's post was the forty-ninth. Now mine isn't nearly as funny...
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
I also have a highly efficient resource collection structure. Although not quite as efficient -- I'm running at 2 energy waste right now.
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 


Robots don't really help us yet, you know. But like you, I couldn't resist building them anyway.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I thought robots decrease production time by a bit.
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
They do, but since production times for mine/synthesizer upgrades are relatively short anyway, the limiting factor (as Enigmatic pointed out on page one) is the rate of resource accumulation.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
well, I just built one, and it halved all production time of buildings...
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
They help a tiny bit with scheduling. I sit here and build until I'm out of resources and then go do something productive in the real world while my mines work.

So with the robots I get more off computer work done and less solitaire and web-browsing while waiting for building completion.

Whether this is a good thing or not I guess is a matter of perspective.
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Edit: To MEC.

Right. But you still have to wait multiple hours to save up enough to build the next building, so halving the time to actually construct it once you've saved enough doesn't really matter when compared to reducing the time to save enough (by upgrading your mines).

Robots will be good when it's time to build rocket silos.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Yeah, but when I'm making multiple buildings I don't have to wait for one to be finished to build the next.
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
It's a matter of metal/crystal investment per unit time savings.
 

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Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
 
There should be a way to store energy.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
45 minutes until I can build a research lab.

*twiddles thumbs*
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
If you could store energy it would be just another resource to accumulate. That would throw off the whole balance of the game, I think.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I've gotten into the habit of updating my mines slightly past the capacity of my solar energy, and decreasing the productivity of the resource I have the most of (currently it's metal). Then after I get time and resources to update my solar plant I just play with the percentages.

I have next to no wasted energy that way, but for some reason there's an extra 2 points of energy being used somewhere that I can't place. That messes things up more than anything.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Sarcastic muppet: I do much the same thing. The ability to under-power your mines adds some flexibility, especially when you're at points where upgrading the solar plant is very expensive.

I've also noticed that the energy doesn't always add up correctly. Mine is usually 1 off on the resourse screen, though I've seen it at 2 or 3 as well.

Progress: I have 12 points, 2 technologies researched, and have started building robot factories as a step towards shipyards. Just got back from movie/dinner, so have accumulated resources to blow through.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
Bubblor has taken over the planet Effervescence in a bloody coup d'état, seeing the planet's surface flattened and the civilization reduced to ruins. Now, the mighty Bubblor is starting from scratch, rebuilding the world in his own mighty image.

Bubblor!
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I wrote down all the ones I could see and stuck it in my notes section for future reference:

Name
Planet

Enigmatic
Dark Matter


Peter Wiggin
Earth


twinky
Levo


Jaime
Path


MEC
Terra

Shigosei
Whitefall


Tstorm
Festivo


Vassilia Cora
Dxun


CaySedai
Andor


Beren
Cindy


Wowbagger
Draconis


Dro_Trebor
NGKA


Mathmavin
Tenalp


Oh, and I read through the tutorial: they really encourage fledgling empires to raid other planets for resources once they can build up a fleet. O.o

*edit to remove locations

[ May 31, 2005, 12:40 PM: Message edited by: sarcasticmuppet ]
 

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Posted by Mr.Funny (Member # 4467) on :
 
Remember, sarcasticmuppet, I'm in universe 4, not universe 5, to make sure that the people running the game don't ban either Shigosei or me for multiplaying.
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Fascinating, I was wondering whether or not I should post this game. I've been playing for about two weeks now... So, my stats right now.

Oh, and for what planet I am n'stuff.

Planet: Zegoria
Ruler: Vadon
Coordinates: 2:170:7
Current Alliance: The United Inter-Planetary Council (UIPC.)

Metal Mine: level 9
Crystal Mine: Level 11
Deuterium Synthesizer: Level 9
Solar Plant: Level 12
Fusion Plant: Level 3
Robotic Factory: Level 2
Shipyard: Level 4
Metal Storage: Level 1
Research Lab: Level 3

So, yeah, lots of good stuff and a huge excess of materials.

Oh, my fleet is one small cargo ship and one solar satelite if anyone wishes to know.

So, here's an offer, I have a lot of extra Metal, I'm saving up my crystal for a colony ship so I can have more planets, but some metal can be sent.

Does anyone want about 5,000 metal? First come first serve.
 

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Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
Bam! Bubblor will take the puny man's metal!

Edit: But not all. Share it out. Bubblor is as fair as he is greedy and bloodthirsty.
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Alright, I'll be sending you 5,000, then. (I only need 10,000, I want to have always around 20,000 and I've got 27,000.)

Should arrive in roughly 5 and a half hours.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Cool, well, I'll take some if you giveing it away but I'm doing fine as I'm at the moment.

MM: 4
CM: 2
DS: 2
SP: 6
 

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Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
Curses! Bubblor is far from Tiny Man planet. Tiny Man needs faster ships
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Heh, Lucky you, Vasslia, I accidentally said to make another cargo ship in the process of trying to send one to Bob. So in just a little while you should be getting another 5,000.

That'd be nice to have faster ships, Bubblor, unfortunatly that's even running at 100% fuel usage... So that's the fastest a small cargo ship can go. *grumbles*

*Is saving up for the Colony Ship.*
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Cool, thanks
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Sent it off with 4,000 metal and 935 Deuterium.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Wow, 935 Deuterium thanks!

P.S. I sent you a message.
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
You're welcome, and I responded.
 

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Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
dan_raven
ravensnest

[ May 31, 2005, 11:41 AM: Message edited by: Dan_raven ]
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
muppet: good idea getting locations in one place. And I've read the forums and such, the game is definitely PvP/raiding oriented. There's also a limit on how many planets 1 player can have, which I have mixed feelings about after playing Master of Orion type games on the hugest map settings.

Vasslia: I'm not too surprised that people on hatrack were already playing. This is really the kind of game that's best to get in on right when it starts. I think after a bunch of us learn the game here, when they start a 6th universe we all join it to have a big team-up right off the bad. (assuming it holds peoples' interests that long, of course.)

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
<-- Happily continues to upgrade the homeworld.

I've found keeping the power up is quite the challenge. I did build a research lab way too early, but that was before I checked back here.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
That would be fun, Enigmatic.
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
I have decided to join in as well. I just started so I don't have much of anything.

Quara
Lusitania
Coordinates Removed

[ May 31, 2005, 12:38 PM: Message edited by: theresa51282 ]
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Hmmm... I was messing around and I created an alliance by accident. How do I disband my alliance?

Right now there is only 1 member.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
has anyone made a jatraqueros alliance yet?
 

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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
We can't do that until we have interplanetary communication...
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
If I click on alliances it looks like I can join lots of them, even though I have no communication with them...

I just created one, search for jatraqueros.

To disband an alliance click on "Administrate alliance" next to your rank.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Thanks for the tip MEC. I just applied to the jatraqueros alliance.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I have also just applied. Hadn't really looked into forming it yet, because I don't think there's not much you can DO as an alliance until you have space travel. (I have a shipyard now, but no ships just yet.)

I believe you're also supposed to announce the creation of a new alliance in the game forums, though I don't know how important that is. Declaring war on other alliances does need to be done in the forum, though I'm a little vague on what the line is between just raiding someone and an actual war is.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Bah, I was just attacked by the guy right next to me in the solar system. Lost a lot of stuff. So now I'm building two missile launchers as well and I hope I can get a small laser sometime soon.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
You can be raided by players with less then 5k points, if you have less then 5k of points.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I got the two people who applied in.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
And I have now transferred Founder status from myself to Enigmatic.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
I'm going to apply in a minute. I have 4 points, so does that mean someone with 4 thousand points can raid me? Ouch...
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I searched for "jatraqueros" but nothing came up.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
search for hatrack
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
did you click on the alliances tab and click join alliance?
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Only if you have a lot of resouces(well they could attack you anyway but they wouldn't get much). But the site that comes up when you click on "help" has alot of good ways to have resouces and only have attack-able when your online.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I found it and applied.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I let you in.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Thanks.

Has anybody gotten into space yet?
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I can release satalites into my own planet's orbit.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I just let Jaime in.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
Thanks. We're ranked 704! But it says we only have 1 member...
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I can build satellites and light fighters. I haven't actually built either yet, but will probably have a satellite sometime tonight.

Status:
Metal 8
Crystal 6
Deuterium 5
Solar 9/10(under construction)
Robot Factory 2
Shipyard 1
Research lab 1

My high metal production right now is aimed at building missle defense bases. Before I start raiding anyone else I want my own planet brimming with missles.

--Enigmatic

Edit: and I have 19 points.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
If you haven't noticed I transferred Founder status to you, Enigmatic.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Solar Satalites, cool.

Whats everbodys hardest resouce, I meant the one that your always having to wait an hour or more for it to build up enough so you can build some more?

My is crystal at the moment but I see deut. becoming a problem in the near future.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
My next project is going to be level 2 robots, but I'm not sure what I should research next. Are combustion or impulse engines more useful? I want to start building up my army, what's the best move to make next?
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
You can check out what everything needs to be built in the technology tab.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I just upgraded Quara's status as jatraquero.

So, who is this Quara?

nm, found her post.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
I just applied for hatrack as well....
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Just let Wowbagger in.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Crap, I just unknowingly spent a ton of duet. looking at the galaxy.
 

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Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
I applied.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Yeah, I did that the morning after I built a deut synth, wasted about half of the night's harvest.

Jaime, I'd go for combustion engines first, because the ships you can build with them are going to be cheaper to build than impulse-drive ships. That will be more useful early on than having the research for ships you can't build yet. (just my $0.02, tho)

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Are you sure?

edit: to shig.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
I had no idea it cost money to look at the galaxy..thanx for the info.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I did get to see that I have some nieghbors though.
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
Is it more important to build a resesarch lab first or a robotics factory?
 

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Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
I'll give it another try.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I built robots first, there is nothing I can really research yet, and the speed boost helps me build multiple buildings in one sitting.
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
I made request to join.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I just let in Shigosei, sarcasticmuppet, and Peter Wiggin.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I just applied. Thanks for the heads-up on galaxy-looking. I'm *so* close to getting my own fleet.

edit: sweet, MEC!
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
I was given advice to build up my economy before doing stuff so I'm think lvl 10 of everything before exploring the universe.
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
Yup you can rename your planets
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
Really? *looks*

Wow. I just changed my planet's name to Ariel.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I just renamed mine "Ragol".
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I just relized, I think my planet is the farthest away from anyone else in the clan.
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
lol
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I'm all alone...
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
muahaahahahha
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 

 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
I applied for the Hatrack alliance, too.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
Can fighters be used to protect yourself from raids? If I built a couple light fighters, would it help me ward off raiders?
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I just let you in.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Yes and no.

Yes, it would help keep people from taking all your stuff as easy and maybe keep them from attacking in the first place.

No, some people just like to fight, so it may draw people in to attack you.

EDIT: to MEC
Your not too far from Shigosei and me.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Yeah, and Vadon is even closer, but everyone else's closest person is closer than my closest person.

Oh, and with recyclers, people can get resources from fleets they decimate.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Or from were their fleets were decimated.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
yeah, but I'm pretty sure that the resources gained from a destroyed ship is less than what it took to build it in the first place.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I read it was about a third of what it takes to build it but still some of the bigger battles will have enough for a small fleet.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
You know, my time at work today was supposed to give me a nice chunk of time to build up resources without constantly watching the game. But there's so little work in queue today that I keep checking on my planet anyway!

On deterrent defenses: If you can build light fighters you can also build missle bases. They're on the "defense" tab. They provide the basic defense for your planet without adding to the temptation to attack it. There's no debris field for ground-based defenses. If they're destroyed you there's a 70% chance of them being repaired after the fight, meaning you'd still have some defense left even if you lost. They're also a little cheaper than fighters, since they don't require any crystal to build.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
On Solar Satellites:
I've built one in my universe-3 game. Their effectiveness varies based on how far from the sun your planet is. That planet was 10th from the sun and 1 satellite only gives 23 energy. Admittingly it's 23 energy that I don't have to take up a slot on the surface for, but not really worth the build cost at this point. Also, I'd recommend getting some defenses up before building satellites, because I've read that they may attract raiders who need crystal. Satellites don't have any defense of their own, so would be easy targets.

Just a few thoughts for any jatraqueroes looking to get off their rock.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Treason (Member # 7587) on :
 
Figured I'd give it a try.

Name: Serenity
Planet: Treason
Location: 3:383:5

I came back to say this might not be my type of game. It already looks boring to me, but I'll keep trying.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I just built/building my first missile launcher. And now I'm just letting my resouces come back so I can level up my deuterium synthesizer.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I think the Alliance page would benefit greatly from a message board. >.<
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Due to an attack against me I've been working on my defenses. (I lost a lot of stuff too, would have been able to make a colony ship this morning too, now I'm set back to probably tomorrow evening.)

So, I'm going to have 5 missile launchers in about half an hour.

Oh, and for the Alliance I'm in, the forum is http://uipc.proboards38.com/index.cgi you can give requests here. ^_^
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
The scores just updated recently, and we are now the 490th-ranked alliance. I have 30 points.

I've decided to postpone fleet-building until I boost up my production a little more. Going to upgrade mines as much as possible today and then use the overnight pile of resources to build defenses and maybe a small fleet. Not sure if I'd actually do any raiding until I can get an espionage ship though, so I know what I'm getting myself into.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Name: Teshi
Planet: Eterrnavis
Position: (censored )

EDIT: Why do I have a feeling this is going to suck my productivity down to zero?

[ May 31, 2005, 10:43 AM: Message edited by: Teshi ]
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
The guide suggests sending a cargo ship with resouces to and unpopulated planet to "spy" but give if low fuel so it takes more time, so that way you don't have +10k of each resouce on the planet for them to see.
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Oh right, points points... Um...

I have 178 points.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I only have 13. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. Probably spending my resources too soon. All well, I'm just impatient.
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
No, it's not that, points are determined by how many resources you have had. I think it's for every 1,000 resources you produce, you get a point.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
When I upgrade a mine my resouce thing keeps the same amount of engery used by dropping the production of the upgraded mine, does anybody elses do that?
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Yes, by dropping the production, you're reducing how much power is needed to do it. I find this helpful if I'm in a huge need of some resource but don't want to upgrade my Solar Plant yet. So what I do is I build my upgraded mine/synthesizer and then I just lessen the production of my other things to accomodate for the new power needs. It can be helpful.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I know but when I upgrade the mine instead of keeping it at whatever % I had it at it drops it automaticly down to whatever % will keep the same usage. I just find it a minor annoyance.

EDIT:
Hey Vadon, what rank is your alliance?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
MEC, thanks!
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Did I do something?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
For accepting my application.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
oh, I did that so long ago, I thought it was about something else.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
What does the "T" next to some of the planets mean? I saw two in MEC's galaxy.

EDIT: WARNING it uses 10 deut. to look at "galaxy"
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
If you leave the mouse over the T it will tell you how much debris is around that planet.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Oh.

Dude planet 4 in MEC's galaxy has 4500 crstal in its debris field. For me, thats alot of crystal but for others not so much. To bad you have to get so far to get a recycler.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I imagine it's from destroyed satillites, they cost 2k crystal, and some deut.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Satillites just don't seem to be that good until you get to where your running low on build slots.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
depends on how close you are to your sun, also if you have no sefense they are prime targets for attacks.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I guess if you one or two in you galaxy, it would help a good amount.

I also want to point out that the colder your planet the more Duet. you mine.
 

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Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
 
Just saw this thread for the first time. I applied...
Name: Liaison
Planet: Tam
Edit: Bahleted coordinates.

[ May 31, 2005, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: Liaison ]
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Are you sure, I can't find you on the list.
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Apparantly the UIPC is not ranked, we have 0 points... odd.
 

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Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
 
Quite sure...I'm on it right now.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Ok, found your application.
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
[Deleted for the security of the alliance!]

-Bok

[ May 31, 2005, 10:47 AM: Message edited by: Bokonon ]
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Ok, I'm not sure what I should do, I need to upgrade my Duet synth to lvl 4 but if I upgrade my crystal to lvl 7, I would be able to upgrade my synth after an hour. Any advice?
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I must have surpassed my neighbors. The first time I looked at my solar system everyone's name was white and there was one orange "strong player" in the system. Now when I look everyone is green "weak player" but that one guy is white. It doesn't specifically say what white names mean, but I'd assume it's roughly even to your own strength.

Hmmm...

Maybe it's time for the crushing? I do so enjoy the crushing.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I have two orange players in my galaxy and two green players and 2 white. I just love the fact that one of the orange players is right next to me and has a debris field around his planet.
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
I looked at our alliance and there are 8 Hatrackers currently online (in the game).
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
So, while I'm waiting for my solar plant to upgrade (12 more minutes), I've got the Wheel of Monotony going (Neopets) and I'm playing Kingdom of Loathing. How's that for multitasking?
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I let Bok in.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
My solar system is getting a tad crowded, by my standards.

Solar system 3:103
Planet [Alliance] Planet Name (Player Name)
1
2
3
4 [ANO] Omikron Persei VIII ( Shaka )
5 Festivo ( Tstorm )
6 [POTDC] Dirt ( Meerka)
7
8 [TCONV] Shadows Nest ( Shadows Tears )
9 Argento ( ElFila )
10 [Poland W] Colgate ( Gilette )
11 Numb ( AN147(g) )
12
13
14
15

I hope their allies are too far away to help. I just read a few of their Alliance Info pages...
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
At least none of them are in Rancor. They recently declared war on all other alliances. There's only 4 people in the alliance, but 2 of them are in the top 5 players.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I have 7 people in my galaxy.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I had to check for Ranc0r in my galaxy but the only other alliance is KOEI.
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 

quote:

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EDIT: WARNING it uses 10 deut. to look at "galaxy"

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Argh! That's where they all went!


 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Solar system 2:82
Planet Name Action
1
2
3
4 T [PCLab.pl] Atlantyda ( Nebulari )
5 [Kryptons] Zezima ( Star Destroyer )
6 [hatrack] Ragol ( MEC )
7
8 Utopia ( cOnFuZED )
9 Hoth ( Modoc )
10 T [HoCG] Der Dreezin' ( Breezy Dreezy ) 19 min
11
12 [HOODlems] Prague ( Planetman3 )
13
14
15
( 7 Planets inhabited )
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Okay, at 26-66(deg)C, I assume I'm in good shape for solar satellites, but not good for duet. Should I bould jus enough deut to raid/colonize a colder planet?

Oh, and I put in my Project Rockstar turn (daily turn based game).

-Bok
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Howdo I see my solar system?

-Bok
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
click on the galaxy tab.

WARNING: it will cost ten deut.
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
(my galaxy information was removed to prevent this information from falling into the wrong hands. )

[ May 31, 2005, 07:29 AM: Message edited by: CaySedai ]
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
You can't if you don't have 10 Deut.

No, you should be fine to mine Deut. infact you are 4 degees warmer then me. Besides it just helps it, I don't think lowers it once you out of the 13-15 area but I could be wrong.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Heh, love that Ranc0r can't attack us.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Idea! We should totally cross-colonize each others solar systems.

My earlier thoughts were that when I got a colony ship I'd just colonize another in my own solar system, for ease of transporting minerals and such. But if we instead colonize the empty spots in each other's systems we'll look like more imposing targets, and have alliance backups in case one of us gets attacked.

Okay, so that's a while off yet, but just a thought.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I agree totally,I had always planned to coolnize other solar systems so this works great for me.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
<puts cart in front of horse>

Should I be concerned about getting a couple of other planets colonized in this system before my competitors do? I'm thinking here, about general strategy. Should I race to colonize or build up infrastructure and production of metal, crystal, deuterium, and research? Keeping in mind, of course, I have some serious-looking contenders in my system.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I wouldn't, I don't think that colonizing you system is a big thing, at least not right off the bat (or ever, its a big universe, I wouldn't waste one of your 8 colonys in you system).

First, I would build up your mines, keeping you solar plant, maybe two ahead of everything else.

Metal is important, get at least 4 or 5.

Crystal is gonna by a toughy at first, but once you get going it gets easier (just cause your making more resouces faster not that the price goes down) 5 or 6 should be ok.

Deuterium is a big energy hog. I have a level 4 synth and it takes almost as much power as my level 7 crystal mine and I'm only getting 67 deuterium and hour! I would aim for atleast level 3 but higher will help once you get to researching and ship building.

If you have tough neighbors then make sure you never have a stockpile of resouces that is large while your offline, use it on something, almost anything will do (not storage! you don't need that yet) because you run the risk of them probeing you and then raiding you (unless they are all above 5k in points but you still can be attacked by raiders from another system).

Well thats all I can think of for now.

EDIT: I hope its ok but I accepted Tstorm.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
Well, I'm having the game jitters that are caused by not knowing exactly what my neighbors are doing. They're all green, like me, but I know they're gunning for the same thing I am.

Current stats:
Metal: 5
Crystal: 4
Energy: 7
Deuterium: 4
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Are we limiting membership to just Jatraqueros? The top ranked alliance has 94 members so I think it is good to make your alliance as big as possible.

If there are any drawbacks to having a big alliance, please let me know, thanks.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I made the newest three members jatraqueros in status.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
1
2
3
4 A Destroyed planet
5 [CH4] gargon 183 ( Moncrief )
6 [hatrack] Ariel ( sarcasticmuppet )
7 Altorf ( TRISTAN )
8
9 Mary Jane ( Tank )
10 Leviatan ( zezar )
11 DIABLO666 ( Kara_dul ) *
12 AH700 ( AH800 )
13
14
15
( 8 Planets inhabited )


I wonder how your planet gets destroyed...
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Death stars?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Hmmm... just read the game's forum and it looks like the strategy is:

1. Hide all your resources on your fleet and send them on long voyages because ships cannot be attacked while in transit.

2. Raid other players unfamiliar with rule 1.

3. Keep building and hording until you get a moon and a stargate which would allow instant, faster-than-light travel. After that, Hatrack will rule the universe (5)!
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I added an intro thread for our alliance on their boards.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Nice job MEC. You should be our permanent UN ambassador.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I don't see any real disadvantages to having a smaller alliance--what if we get a spy?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Spying is a valid concern but I don't think you have to worry about that until much later in the game when we are stronger players.

Players are limited to one account per IP address. I doubt people would take the trouble to join our alliance just for the sake of spying on us.

In the future, however, when we are thinking of coordinating an attack against another alliance, we SHOULD temporarily suspend the addition of new members in case they are spies.

I think another advantage of having a larger alliance is that it makes people think twice about attacking you.

Speaking of spying, we really need Kama to help us scope out the Polish alliance.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
sounds good. Someone needs to be paranoid, and that someone may as well be me.

Can we at least limit membership to people who know who OSC is?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
A simple quiz like "speak friend and enter" type of deal?

The enemy's gate is:

A. Up
B. Down
C. White
D. Guarded by werewolves
E. Are you sure you don't want to pick down?
F. Seriously, do you want to join this alliance or not?
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
sounds good.
 

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Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
I would prefer:

The enemy's ____ is down:

A. Pants
B. Zipper
C. Gate
D. Mood
E. Stock Index
F. Duckling Feather
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Yeah, that's a good idea.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
We have a pending member...he says he saw our message at clutch fans.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Yeah, he is friend from another forum. I accepted his application, I hope that's ok.

I talked about the game at another forum earlier this morning. But I have deleted my post there after seeing sarcasticmuppet's suggestion that we should limit our members to OSC fans.

I think we should get more than enough fans from Hatrack and MEC's post on ogame's official forum.

***

I'm at a crossroads and need some advice. I'm not sure if I should actively pursue starflight and become a raider or focus on building more mines and be a peaceful miner. What do you think?

My current stats:

Metal 8
Crystal 8
Deuterium 6
Solar 10
Robot factory 2
Research Lab 1
Shipyard 2

Technology researched: 0
Weapons developed: 0
Ships built: 0
Missle launcher: Thinking about building one.

[ May 30, 2005, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: Beren One Hand ]
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Does anyone else get to pages which are totally inundated with pop-ups? I have a blocker but it totally incapacitates me on that page until I go away from it and come back.

Is there anyway I can prevent that?
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I have no problem with accepting other players. A good safety rule would be don't promote anyone to jatraquero except for people that we know actually are jatraqueroes.

Another suggestion on limiting your resource stockpile, apart from the sending them in a slow transport trick: Spend it. (Duh, I know.) But what I'm doing is keeping my production ratios fairly close to the ratio needed for building things, and then if one resource does get too high, build something that uses primarily that while waiting for others to catch up. If metal is very high, I build missle lauchers. If crystal or deuterium is too high I do research. Just a tip for before you have actual cargo ships.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Good tips and good suggestion Enigmatic. Thanks.

Teshi, I get no pop ups with Firefox. Which browser are you using?
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
*cough*

Internet Explorer.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Beren: At the minimum I'd build a missle launcher or two even if you have no plans to raid anyone. Peaceful miners are good targets: they don't raid back.

I'd say either way you decide to go you can build some more mines for the time being. The smallest fighter ship is 3000 metal/1000 crystal, so you need a lot of production to make a decent raider fleet.

--Enigmatic
(realizes this is the longest thread he's started by far)
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Try Firefox Teshi! Once you have tasted the paradise that is tabbed browsing, you'll never go back!

Thanks Enigmatic. More mines sound like a good idea. I guess I'm just feeling a bit impatient.

"realizes this is the longest thread he's started by far"

Oh, it is going to get SO much longer.
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
I resisted Firefox for this long, but now I have given in. *uses Firefox*
 

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Posted by Peter Howell (Member # 8072) on :
 
*shudders at the thought of not using firefox*

I'll join in too... this game appears to be similar to one I played a while back called imperial conflict.

Name: Blue Sun
Planet: Arial (I'll probably change this)
Location: 3:396:9

On a somewhat unreleated matter... I'm surprised to see so many Firefly fans on here... how many of you watched the show before OSC reviewed it?
 

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Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
OSC reviewed it?
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Welcome to the game. Search for "hatrack" on your alliance tab to apply to the alliance. For some reason the search seems to go off the tag, not the name.

On firefly: In terms of strict chronology, I couldn't answer. I have no idea when OSC reviewed it. Hence I watched it before I read OSC's review or was aware that he reviewed it, which is probably more like what you meant. I didn't watch it when it was actually on tv, though. Joss Whedon fans made me watch the DVDs.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I registered for the game either Friday night or Saturday, can't remember which.

Name: Noemon
Planet: Noemonia
Location: [Deleted]

Peter, most of us who've watched it did so before Card reviewed it, I think. No surprise, really, that so many of us like it though; it's good character driven SF, and this is the site of an author primarily known for writing good character driven SF.

[ May 31, 2005, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: Noemon ]
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
This alliance is getting pretty big. Does it only consist of members of Hatrack still or are there other people? Also, my missile launcher is almost finished building, will it automatically provide defense for my planet or will I have to activate it if someone attacks me?
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I should do it automaticly, I built one for myself a little while back.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Can buildings get damaged in an attack?
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
We should definitely restrict entrants. In fact, I wouldn't have added "Vampire", since we have no clue who he is. I think the rule should be that if they don't post in this thread, they shouldn't be added.

Question: I am maxed out on energy usage right now. Should I get robots or another level in my solar plant first?

-Bok
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
My stats:
Metal: 6
Crystal: 7
Deuterium: 4
Solar: 9
Robot factory 2
Research Lab 1
Shipyard 2

Technology researched:
Combustion Engine (Level 1 )
Energy Technology (Level 1 )

Weapons developed: 0

Ships built: 0

Missle launcher: 1


Any advice on what I should do?
 

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Posted by Inspired (Member # 8130) on :
 
I've played a few of these games too

Name: Excaliver
Planet: Omakron
Location: 3:413:8
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
get Combustion 2 and you can get transport ships. I'd also build up Deuterium--I have a level 6 synth and I think it could still use some speed.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
I have applied to the alliance.

And built more robots.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
No I don't think buildings themselves can get damaged, your defence weapons can though.


As to Vampire, don't like it. He says he plays on ogame.de and on ogame.org but thats againest the rules.

Whats your plants level and whats your robots level?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Thanks for the answer Vasslia Cora.

Vampire did not pass Dan's awesome test. How did he get in?

Sarcasticmuppet, do you already have starflight? Yay, wtg!
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
Instead of trying to recruit members we aren't sure about, we should think about creating alliances with other alliance. Esp. ones that could potentially harm/help us.

For example: I know there's a member of another alliance (called CH4) right next door to me that we could consider having a non-aggression pact with. Especially since he's the only "strong player" in my system .

Stuff like that--I think other people might have more pressing need than me.

Beren: I'm not quite there yet--I do have the capability for a light fighter, but I'm waiting a bit until I can upgrade enough for the transport ship. In the meantime, I've built ahead of my energy needs, so I'm waiting to upgrade my plant.
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 

quote:

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I'm surprised to see so many Firefly fans on here... how many of you watched the show before OSC reviewed it?

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I was forcibly introduced. Now I'm on a crusade to forcibly introduce others.


 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I also think that we shouldn't forget Vadon has an alliance too. Plus he has been playing longer then most of us, if not all of us.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
Me too! I successfully converted my mom.
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
*Is drumming his fingers impatiantly, having to wait about 11 more hours to finally get the amount of resources he would have had yesterdaymorning.*

Heh, I should check out your thread.

You know with how big your alliance could become, you have a good chance of becoming quite powerful.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Vadon, do you fleet save you resouces?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
That's a good idea sarcasticmuppet. We can have non-agression pacts with other alliances.

When we get more powerful, we can splinter off and form new alliances as a sub branch of our main alliance. OK, I have now officially given too much thought to this game....
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
So how do I build ships? I have a shipyard, and I have enough resources for either a satellite or a light fighter, they show up in my shipyard menu, but I can't find a "build" button.

<--- Is obviously an ignoramus
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Well a quick summary, I had sent out both cargo ships out with the metal I sent you and Bob, so I had no defenses when I was attacked. I wasn't be the brightest little ruler of a planet and I had not built any sort of defenses, so then a fleet comes and easily shoots me down and takes away almost all my resources and puts debris out.

I actually just looked again at it and um... It actually will only take about two hours... yay!

Beren, you think that's bad? I already made a freewebs website, made a logo, written up a complete policy, and have made a forum for the UIPC. THAT is taking it too far.

(Edit: Yeah, that's always a good thing.)
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Sorry, I let vampire in without doing the test. Mainly because he said he's played the german version of the game, which has been around longer so he's likely to know what he's doing. If there's consensus on not allowing non-OSC fans/hatrackers, I can kick him and explain it. Up to you all.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Well, at least you were able to save your cargo ships.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Dkw, it took me a bit to figure building out too. You put a number in the field to the right of the ship (defaults to 0) and click "send" at the bottom. Unlike buildings, you can actually queue up ships. Same for the Defense tab.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Yes but he doesn't get them back.

DKW: Next to the ship you want to build is a writing are with a 0 in it just delete the 0 and add whatever number of units you want to build and hit send at the bottom.

Vadon: The cargo ships wouldn't have help much depending on what ships they had. But 2 large cargo ships will take enough resouces for a colony ship, so if you build them and send them on a fleet save to an empty planet to "spy" by the time they get back you'll have all you need to build a colony ship.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
"Mainly because he said he's played the german version of the game, which has been around longer so he's likely to know what he's doing."

Imagine his disappointment when he figures out we are all under 1k points.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Well, you can queue buildings but you have to pay the $4s to do it.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
Ugh, this is so annoying, I have about 2,000 crystals and under 500 metal and deut...And I accidently clicked to upgrade energy research to level 2 which I don't even need. Now I have to wait a billion years to get enough deut to do anything that requires alot of crystals...This is frustrating. But fun.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Don't you get your resouces back if you cancel the upgrade?
 

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Posted by Mr.Funny (Member # 4467) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by GaalD:
Ugh, this is so annoying, I have about 2,000 crystals and under 500 metal and deut...And I accidently clicked to upgrade energy research to level 2 which I don't even need. Now I have to wait a billion years to get enough deut to do anything that requires alot of crystals...This is frustrating. But fun.

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Plus, once you hit energy tech 3 and duet synthesizer 5, you can get fusion plants. They burn a little bit of duet every hour but they produce a LOT of energy. I can't build them yet, but I bet they would be a good suppliment energy-wise once your solar plants get to be high level.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Agh, I hate metal! I get 318 each hour but it just not enough, I need to upgrade my deut synth but I have to wait for my metal.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
Ok thanks, I stopped the energy research and now I'm doing combustion instead. Even though now I do have over 3,000 crystals and nothing of anything else, at least I'm doing research that I want.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Is it advisable to skip the combustion engine research and jump straight to impulse engines?
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I think you still need combustion to build cargo ships and small fighters but I could be wrong.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
Are cargo ships neccessary?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Thanks Vassila.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
duuuunnnn...

Duuuuuuunnnnnnn...

DUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNN
DWAH-DUNNN!!!
(dahdundahdundahdundahdun)

duuuunnnn...

Duuuuuuunnnnnnn...

DUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNN
DWAH-DA-DUNNN!!!

Vaguely mysterious Emperor Enigmatic would like to announce that shifty-eyed populace of Dark Matter have launched their first manned spacecraft. The pilot of the new light fighter could not be reached for comment, as he was busy eyeing neighboring planets and drooling.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
So, solar plant or robots? I too am under a metal crunch.

I am at 2/1/2/3. I think ideally I'd get robots and then energy, but does the reverse make more sense?

-Bok
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Heh! I know what song that is!

I know it, but I don't know what it is called!

EDIT: I too am torn between robots and a solar plant upgrade: 3/3/2/4 is what I'm at.

I think I'm going to go Solar Plant first, then Robots
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Does Robots require energy?

-Bok
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
I don't know, but I'm looking long term here, anyway.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Cargo ships are pretty important if you want to trade resouces.

Bok: I would go with a power plant and then maybe the robots but bigger mines are always good (well almost always)
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
No robots don't use energy.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Bok, they don't seem to.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Robots don't use energy. They cut your build times down, but the limiting factor early on is going to be resource production rates, not build time. I recommend waiting on robot factory until you actually need them as the prerequisite for the shipyard. Focusing on your resource-production early on will pay off later, because you'll be able to afford all the other buildings a lot easier.

It's the song from 2001 Space Odyssey. I *think* the title is Thus Spake Zaruthstra. But probably spelled correctly.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 

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I was forcibly introduced. Now I'm on a crusade to forcibly introduce others.

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I forcibly introduced fiazko to it last night. We watched the first two DVDs together, and I sent her home with the boxed set. She says that she doesn't know when she'll have time to watch the other two discs, but I think we all know that she'll be finishing the series tonight.
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Heh, that reminds me of what I said.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
At the moment, on Noemonia:

Metal Mines: Lvl 6
Crystal Mines: Lvl 6
Deuterium Synthesizer: Lvl 5
Solar Plant: Lvl 8
Robotic Factory: Lvl 2
Research Lab: Lvl 1

Technologies Researched:
Energy Technology: Lvl 1

I was planning on building a shipyard next, and I'm pretty close to having the resources to do that, but I'm tempted to hold off and spend those resources further upgrading my solar plant and metal mines, so that I can have a chance of having enough resources to actually build something with my shipyards once I've got them.

Is it possible to join multiple alliances? There is no other alliance I'm interested in being a member of at the moment--the question is purely hypothetical.

Also, is there a way to view information on other members of your alliance? Location, score, that kind of thing?
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
Ya, click on alliance and then click on member list. It tells you location, points and whether they're online.
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
How can you build a ship yard? I can't seem to find that option. I have:

Llv 8 Metal
L 7 Crystal
L3 Deut
L 10 Power

Level 1 Robot
Level 1 Research
Level 1 Energy tech

Do I need to do sometheng else still before building a shipyard?
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
You need robot 2.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
You need another level of Robot Factory before you can build a shipyard, theresa.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
On the planet Draconis
Metal Mines: Lvl 8
Crystal Mines: Lvl 8
Deuterium Synthesizer: Lvl 5
Solar Plant: Lvl 10
Robotic Factory: Lvl 2
Research Lab: Lvl 1

Technologies Researched:
Energy Technology: Lvl 1
Combustion Engine (Level 1 )
very close to building a shipyard, just waiting for enough crystals
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
When I click on alliance, I don't see a member's list button anywhere. It tells me that there are 22 members, but neither the word "members" nor the number "22" are hypertext linked.
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
So, in about two hours I'll be building my first colony ship. Anyone want me as a neighbor? We don't have too many loud parties in the Vadonic empire. ^_^
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
right next to the number 22 click on the words (Member list)
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
My solar system has got 8 empty planets, so you could move there.
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
Thanks, I will be building my robot upgrade in about 30 minutes
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Eight empty? Sounds like another home to me, once I've had it made, I'll send it off.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Cool, I sent you a buddy request.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
I just let Bob Scopatz in. Hope it's ok.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I must be looking in the wrong place, because I don't see the words "Member List" after the number 22 (23 now). I'm getting there by clicking on "Alliances" in the vertical menu bar on the left side of the screen.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
How do we know that this "Bob Scopatz" character is really a Hatracker, and not just some johnny-come-lately who only joined the site to get into our alliance?
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 

 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Try signing out and then signing back in.

It should look like this:
Members 23 (Member list)
 

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Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
 
Name: JT Sytryker
Planet: rock
Location: In a galaxy far far away...

I just finally got around to starting one... Is it too late to join you guys and your alliance?

[ May 31, 2005, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: J T Stryker ]
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Who is dro? Or is he just another random?

-Bok
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I've tried that a couple of times, Vasslia, and have tried it on both IE 6 and Firefox. No luck. I just get the following (displayed in a table, which I can't reproduce here):

quote:

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Your alliance
Tag hatrack
Name jatraqueros
Members 23
Your rank Newbie

Jatraqueros.

Homepage www.hatrack.com

Internal section

Welcome.

Leave this alliance
go

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
Then Bob is pretty desperate to join our alliance because he must've posted alot in the last 20 minutes to trick me into thinking he's a regular I think he deserves to join for that Anyways, I solved my low metal/ridicuously high crystal problem by upgrading my metal mine, and then to supply the extra energy for it I built a solar satellite thingy which used up 2,000 crystal. It worked out well.
Noemon, my guess is because your a newbie, you can't see it. Not sure though.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I bet its because your a newbie.

No, its not to late, at least I don't think it is.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I hope you have a good defense because your satilate could draw in attacks for the crystal.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Ah, okay, I can buy that as a reason. I assume that time will take care of my newbie status.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
Is one satellite really enough to provoke an attack? Doesn't it cost deut and stuff to attack? I have a missile launcher, but if they only attack my solar satellite, which is in space, will my missiles still be able to hit them?
Noemon, I think the founder(Enigmatic)has to promote you. Ask him.
 

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Posted by Inspired (Member # 8130) on :
 
I haven't made a Rocket Silo yet, why do they have to be so expensive. At my current rate, it will only take me about, oh.......... a week to get enough resources. Can I get word on being accepted? Username is Excaliver.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Hey, Enigmatic, how about it?
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Enigmatic or MEC can promote people.

Yes it does take deut to attack but some people may still attack but your missle launcher will hit them (I think)

Inspired: I think it would be best to wait for Enigmatic or MEC to accept you.
And the rocket silo hasn't been built by anybody on our alliance, once you build a shipyard you can build a missle launcher.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Noeman, try it now. The promotion thing occurred to me a bit ago, but then I was afk for a while so couldn't test it. Inspired, you've been accepted into alliance too.

Currently my metal/crystal ratio is almost exactly the same as the ratio needed for light fighters. I can build 1 every 4 hours. Hmmmm...

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
You can get 3,000 metal every 4 hours
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Does anybody know what vaction mode does?
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
That did the trick, thanks.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 

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Does anybody know what vaction mode does?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Noemon:

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Does anybody know what vaction mode does?

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It puts you in a protective mode, so that no one can raid your worlds while you're away. It also suspends production though. Vacation mode lasts a minimum of 48 hours.

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quote:

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Originally posted by sarcasticmuppet:
I think the Alliance page would benefit greatly from a message board. >.<

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I think that's a good idea. When this thread exceeds 10 pages it will be a pain to look through all the information to find hints, questions, requests to join, etc.

Should we move this game to its own forum? Just for fun I created a new test forum here.

* We can have separate threads and the search function works pretty well.
* We can make the forum private, so other people can't spy on us or flame hatrack.
* We can have polls for voting on alliance policy.
* I can probably host a couple of html pages too, if anyone wants to create an intro page.

Yes, I am really bored waiting for my resources to build up!

[ May 31, 2005, 01:44 PM: Message edited by: Beren One Hand ]
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
And thus the Vadonic empire begins its expansion.

I now have a colony ship heading to colonize 2:164:15.

Hey, what should I name the planet?
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Vadon II

Everything of the same name, like the Trump Empire.
 

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Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
 
Hmmm all my planets shall be named: rock, rock 2, rock 3....

I'm also bored Beren...
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
What are some names in the Enderverse?

Trondheim, Path, Lusitania.... hmmm, that's it for my poor memory.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Vadon, I thought you were going to send the colony ship to my solar system 2:455, oh well.

Eros, was one of them.

[ May 30, 2005, 10:40 PM: Message edited by: Vasslia Cora ]
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Well, my first planet's name is Zegoria... I could go with Firinex.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Sounds good to me.
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
I've already got a Lusitania... Trondheim was my thought for my colony planet but I am still a long ways off so I lay no claim to it. Moctezuma was another planet mentioned in SFTD I believe.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
My stats:
Metal: 7
Crystal: 7
Deuterium: 5
Solar: 9
Robot factory 2
Research Lab 2
Shipyard 2

Technology researched:
Combustion Engine (Level 2 )
Energy Technology (Level 1 )


Weapons developed: 0

Ships built: 0

Missle launcher: 1

I can build:
Small Cargo
Light Fighter
Solar Satellite
Missile Launcher


I am about to research Armour Technology (levle 1) in about 30 minutes cause it only uses metal and everything else uses crystal and deuterium. The crystal I have but the deuterium I don't have.

Any advice?
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
I keep drooling over the technology research side, but so far I've only done Combustion Level 1 and Energy Level 1. I know I need Energy Level 3 to build Fusion Plants, and I need the energy desperately. However, before I go crazy on that, I need the metal and crystal (and yikes! deuterium)...so every time I look at some cool piece of technology, I wind up going to build infrastructure again. Balance, in all things.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I *really* need to upgrade to fusion power before I can really get started with the fleet building. My level 10 solar plant just can't keep up anymore. I was hoping to have my energy research done by the time I went to bed, but it's not gonna happen. *sigh* all well, there's always fresh resources to look forward to when I wake up tomorrow...

edit: Beren's forum is quite nice.

[ May 31, 2005, 12:46 AM: Message edited by: sarcasticmuppet ]
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
No kidding. I'm away from my computer for 6-18 hours at a stretch sometimes, and I come back to what seems a mountain of resources...quickly burned through in about 10-45 minutes.

My Solar Plant is at level 9, and even that won't support a Metal Mine of 7, Crystal Mine of 5, and Deuterium at 6.

My goal is sometime tomorrow to have the Fusion Plant up and running.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I wonder if doing energy research makes the solar plants any more efficient. That would make a huge difference over the next day or so.

*later* nope, doesn't look like it does. Oh well.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I have upgraded Beren, so that she can administrate the clan.

now, who on the list of newbies is not a real jatraquero?
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I just applied to the alliance...


Kwea

Planet name: Hatrack [deleted in the name of planatary security]

[ May 31, 2005, 11:01 AM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
I can't play for some reason - I go to the start page, choose my universe and click login (after my nick and password appear in the boxes) - and get a completely blank screen. If I refresh, it goes back to the start page.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
You guys are doing a great job with the admin stuff, I'm happy with just being a jatraquero.

Let me know if any of you guys want to be forum admins.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Well, i'm leaving in two days, and you were one of the first members, and you seem to be doing pretty well, and you gave our clan it's own board space, so I decided to make you an admin.

as for the forum, I can't seem to get the confirmation code thing to work.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Never mind, it finally worked.
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
I got in - in a different tab (Firefox). I wonder why I couldn't do anything in the first tab?
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I dunno.
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Heh, I have to start from scratch again on my new planet Firinex... sweet!
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Does anyone know if there is a way to cancel ships being built?
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
MEC: nope, I couldn't figure it out.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
oh well.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
I made the following people forum moderators, in case you guys need to edit something while I'm gone: Wowbagger, Teshi, JT_Stryker, Vasslia Cora, Jaime, sarcasticmuppet, MEC.

MEC & Enigmatic, good job separating the Jatraqueros from the other players.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Cool, as a note, I might not be on between June 2 through June 11. I don't know if I will have internet access or not but if I do I will try and get on and if I don't well, I won't.
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
Does anyone know about how much power I can expect from a solar satellite? Is it worth building instead of a level 11 power plant? If it matters I am on the tenth planet from the sun
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
I think the farther away from the sun, the less effective the solar satellite will be. Additionally, people have said that it attracts raiders, so you probably want to make sure your defense is good first.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
But being farther from the sun means more deut.
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
oh, good to know. I have no defense right now except for the fact that I am using resources as fast as I get them which should make me unattractive. I guess I will stick to upgrading my solar plant. It is just getting to be so costly
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Well you can build a fusion plant with level 5 synth and a level 3 energy tech research.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Vasslia brought up a good point in the other forum. We should delte our coordinates on this thread since it is not a good idea to allow non-members to know our coordinates.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I just edited mine off of here.
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
Our coordinates are posted in the Jatraqueros alliance member list, so anyone who needs to know can find out there. I've tried looking at other alliances, but can't view their member list, so we should be okay looking at our member information there.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
If you have problems loading the page in firefox, it is because you have adblocker enabled, probably.
 

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Posted by Inspired (Member # 8130) on :
 
Does Robotic Factory drain a lot of energy?
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Here are my stats..

Metal Mines-2
Crystal mine-1
Deut-1
Solar-4
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Inspired:
Does Robotic Factory drain a lot of energy?

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I don't think they consume any energy.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I've deleted my coordinates. Thanks for the suggestion that we do so--very good idea. Is there any way to get a feel for how big an alliance is if you aren't a member of it? A couple of the other inhabitants of my solar systems are in alliances, although not with each other happily enough. There are also some that aren't allied at the moment.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
Nope, robotic factory requires no energy, it just takes a lot of resources to build. I built mine around the time I built the level 5 mine, and it dropped my construction time by half. HOWEVER, as other people have pointed out...TIME is not the restricitive quantity here...RESOURCES are.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
Mine's a busy star system. I just wasted some deuterium to see what my neighbors were up to. I have 4 strong neighbors (red), 1 weak neighbor (green), and 2 equal (white) in strength to me. Two of the planets are shared by members of the same alliance. POTDC, they're called. Cross colonization is a reality.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 

quote:

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Is there any way to get a feel for how big an alliance is if you aren't a member of it?

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I click on the "statistics" tab and look up the alliance rankings. All the alliances are listed there with the amount of points and members they have.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
So when people get to a point of being able to colonize other worlds, do they typically settle those in their star system first, and then branch out from there, the way it would work in real life, or do they just head out and immediately settle another star system? Are there defensive advantages to having multiple worlds in the same star system?
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
EDIT: Beren already said this! Bah!

[ May 31, 2005, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Teshi ]
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
The defensive advantages question is a good one. I am also wondering about it Noemon.

If someone attacks one of your colonies, would you bother sending a fleet to to defend it? Or will you send a fleet to the attacker's planet to exact revenge?

By the time your extra fleet gets there, wouldn't the battle be over before you get there even if the distance is really short?

It seems that if you fleet save your ships and never have a bunch of unused resources lying around, no one will ever attack you (unless they really hate you or we are at war with someone).
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
In my system everyone is weaker then me but one person has some sort of fleet. As such I've upgraded my defenses, I now have 1 light fighter, 3 missile launchers, and pretty soon 1 or two small lasers.
 

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Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
 
I've just begun.

Astaril of the planet Astatastica.

[ May 31, 2005, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: Astaril ]
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Stryker, did you spell your name differently in the game on purpose?
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Astaril, it's probably a good idea to delete your coordinates from this thread. Once you join the Hatrack alliance (assuming that you want to, of course) we'll be able to see your coordinates in-game, but by posting them here you make it possible for players outside our alliance to find your homeworld.

That said, welcome to the game!
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Welcome Astaril!

Since we're putting scouting reports with sensitive information* on the other forum, I made that forum private to protect our interests.

If you already signed up you already have permission to view the forum. If you haven't signed up yet, register an account at the forum and post your account name here. I will grant you access asap.

Sensitive Information = Our coordinates (ahem Astaril ), solar system stats, fleet movements, and our sudden but inevitable betrayal of all other alliances! (j/k, Vadon don't hurt us!)
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
There are a *lot* of coordinates floating around in this thread, by the way. I must have scrolled by a dozen of them while looking for the post that contained my own coordinates.

There is no way my work's firewall is going to let me go to a site that has "poker" in the url, so I'll only be able to access the forum from home. Of course, the firewall also won't let me access a site with "game" in the URL, so I can't actually play the game from work either.

At least I should have lots of resources saved up when I get home (assuming that some attacker didn't overcome my defenses and steal all my stuff, of course).

You know, this thread is threatening to drag me back into Hatrack. I'd sworn that I was just going to post in here, but I've been lurking, and there have been several times when I've had to almost physically restrain myself from posting.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 

quote:

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You know, this thread is threatening to drag me back into Hatrack.

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We can all stop pretending to play this game guys. Mission accomplished!
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
I need access to the _other_ forum. My username is Bokonon (of course).

-Bok
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 

quote:

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We can all stop pretending to play this game guys. Mission accomplished!

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Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
 
Operation Delete Coordinates From Thread accomplished. Thanks guys! I'll join the alliance soon. I need to figure out what I'm doing first...
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
You're good to go Bok.
 

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Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
 
I also just registered at the other forum, as Astaril. Now, I really need to go off and do real life work today. Sigh. Too many addicting computer games, so little time...
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
You're good to go Astaril.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
My user name will be Kwea there, I will register today.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Cool Kwea. I need you to remind me again when you do though. I can't grant permissions to peple who are not already registered.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I made all the people you made forum mods into "Neat jatraquero". They can now accept applications into the clan.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
So are "Neat Jatraqueros" undiluted?
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Doing it right now, check in about 5 min then....


Kwea
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Kwea, done!

Noemon, we're shaken, not stirred.

quote:

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I made all the people you made forum mods into "Neat jatraquero". They can now accept applications into the clan.

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Hmmmm.... I hope I didn't offend anybody by picking certain people to be mods. I just picked the first eight people who joined the forum to be mods.

I didn't make the people who joined after the first eight because I thought that might create total chaos to have so many mods.
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
I feel sad, I registered on the poker forum but I can't enter the Hatrack sub forum
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Sid You're in. Can I bribe you with a special forum title as to make you... um... less sad?
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
you have to post here that you want in, Sid...


But don't you belong to another alliance?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
I think Sid is Peter Wiggin, a member of our alliance. (Or perhaps the hegemon of our alliance, how's that for a title?)
 

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Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
 
Can someone tell me why the forum keeps telling me the confirmation code I entered was incorrect?

I'm Panthers325 by the way.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I can't think why, except maybe that it's case sensitive--did you use proper caps?
 

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Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
 
I tried using with and without caps. With and without AOL. I'm out of ideas.

Edit: Damn internet explorer to the ends of the earth, it worked with firefox.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
I'm sorry about that NFL, I don't know why the confirmation code is wonky. I think MEC had the same problem.

Have you tried refreshing the registration page while holding down the "shift" button? Usually that clears the bad mojo and your next attempt will be successful.

If you like, I can create your account for you. Just let me know what name you want and I will create it and email it to your hatrack email address.
 

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Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
Bubblor demands acceptance into Tiny Man forum!
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
It worked after I entered about 20 codes correctly.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Bubblor is not yet an alliance member. Join us oh mighty Bubblor.

Ouch MEC. You're way more patient thatn I would've been.
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
I have registered theresa51282 on the new forum. Deleting mny coordinates right now.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
NFL, theresa, and Bubblor added.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
Bubblor has joined the alliance.
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
I had the same problem with the code but I found it worked with my caplocks on. That might work for you

Theresa
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
I can't get my login to work. It says I have an invalid, incorrect, or inactive username or password. I guesses what my problem might be?
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
So, how do you change the avatar name thing on people?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Sorry guys, I will turn off the visual confirmation thing. Let me know if there are future problems.

Theresa, for some reason my records show that you registered as theresa512892. There's an extra 9 in your login name. Have you tried loggin in with theresa512892?

MEC, the avatar name thing is a general admin command. I share the forum with other people so I can't really elevate anyone to admin level; but I'm happy to change your title for you.
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
the member title? I believe the admin take care of that. I don't think I have the power as a humble moderator.

edit: uh, what beren said.
 

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Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
 
Nope must have been a typo. Thanks for the help. That fixed the problem. Is there anyway you could take out the nine. That could drive me crazy.

Theresa
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Sure thing theresa. Try it now.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
I'm applying for the other forum now...username Tstorm
 

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Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
 
I will gladly take the title of Hegemon though I'll gladly take it as head of state rather then government
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Ok, I was just wondering if I could do it.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Oh, and I made our clan logo the same as the hatrack logo.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Tstorm you're good to go.

MEC, have you checked your ingame messages?
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Something that we should do (on the protected forum, probably) is put together a spreadsheet that shows what other alliances have a presence in the star systems where we have worlds, and what worlds they control. That could help us quite a bit in determining who is actually a threat, and so forth. As our probes increase in sophistication, we can include the information they glean in the spreadsheet. Building and maintaining that spreadsheet is going to be a fair amount of work, but it'll be worth it I think.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
I was waiting for someone else to admit they made a spreadsheet for keeping track of details in this game.

I'm such a geek. I made a spreadsheet to calculate production; it details forecasted resources out to 2, 3, 6, 12, and 24 hours. Now I just have to collect all the useless tech info and production requirements for things into one simple spreadsheet.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I haven't actually *made* a spreadsheet, I just see the value in someone doing so. Can I still be a geek if I don't actually make a spreadsheet?
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
Oh, sure. It's actually quite useful. I input my current production and it calculates everything out. That way, I have a timetable for building improvements. I could share it if you're interested. (Excel 2000)
 

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Posted by Peter (Member # 4373) on :
 
Adfectio
Masica
3:460:6
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Yeah, I'd love a copy! My email address is noemon at sakeriver dot com.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
It's enroute. I didn't modify it, so be sure to input your own production and stockpile information.

My current forecast is to have Energy Level 3 sometime tonight, and I'll get a Fusion Plant built.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Peter, don't post your location (the numbers) here on Hatrack, anyone could see them..
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I tried to get to the forum, but it won't let me in, it says I have an invalid user name or password.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Kwea, I sent you a new password to your hatrack mail. Give it a shot. If it doesn't work, email me and I'll set up a new account for you.

Edited to add: It should work, I tried logging in as you.

[ May 31, 2005, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: Beren One Hand ]
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Thanks T! When I get home tonight I'll plug in my data.

I've been looking to the fusion reactors to solve my energy needs also, but according to people on the message boards on the game site itself they aren't all that great, primarily because they burn deuterium. Doesn't seem like a bad tradeoff from my perspective, but maybe I'll feel differently when I'm further into the game. Let us know how they work for you.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
To me its a bad tradeoff but for now its good because it should cost less to upgrade them rather then my solar plant but I will be upgrade my solar plant since it doesn't use resouces.
 

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Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
 
Planet Salvo
In-game name TheTick

Application en route.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
How much deuterium does it use at the varying levels, Vasslia?
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
Level Prod/Hr Deuterium consumption
1 55 -13
2 121 -28
3 199 -46
4 292 -68
5 402 -93
6 531 -123
7 682 -157
8 857 -198
9 1061 -245
10 1296 -299
11 1569 -361
12 1883 -434
13 2243 -517
14 2658 -612
15 3132 -721

Edit: Stupid variable-width fonts....
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
If it's burning through that much deuterium each hour I could see that devouring reserves pretty quickly.

Maybe now we're seeing why they have an option to scale back and or remove infrastructure improvements?
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Well actually the deut gets more then enough energy from the fusion plant for the next level.
 

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Posted by GaalD (Member # 6222) on :
 
Can we let this thread die and move all posts about this to the other forum? So we don't have to checking back here for tips and alliance stuff? I think it'd be easier.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Yeah, I think that would be best.
 

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Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Beren One Hand:
Stryker, did you spell your name differently in the game on purpose?

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No... but by the time i caught it, it was too late to fix it.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
Can we let the thread die?

I dunno, it was inflating my post count quite nicely. Yeah, I'll be at the other forum for the game.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I agree that it's probably wise, but it'll cut down my participation quite a bit, since I can't get to the other forum from work. Not that that should be a concern for anybody, I'm just sayin'.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
Ok, I think I'll keep all the important information, including names, numbers, locations, and plans, on the other forum. I'll probably continue to post here because some Jatraqueros might be interested.

For what it's worth, I'm jealous that you have employers who allow you to surf at work. Misuse of company time. I find work is the best time to build up the resources. I can spend everything in about half an hour, it seems.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Yeah, I'm looking forward to going home and burning through the huge pile of resources I've accumulated over the day. I actually logged on this morning and spent half of the metal I'd aquired over night. Bought a missile launcher. I figured that on the off chance that somebody decided to raid me and get those resources before I could get to them it would be a good idea to be armed. Of coure, I recognize that what seems like a huge pile of resources to me now probably seems like an hour's worth of production to empires that are actually established, but still.
 

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Posted by DarkWizard (Member # 6186) on :
 
I sent in an application to join
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I'm hopeing to have small laser to protect my resouces soon.

Yeah, just keeping you company, Noemon.
 

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Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
I've been reading the forums for the game, and the majority of opinions tend to indicate that turtling (building lots of defenses) is not an effective strategy against determined opponents. Everyone needs basic defense, of course. I'm just wondering if it wouldn't be fun to try turtling.

I haven't even achieved a shipyard yet, so these thoughts are premature.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
It is nice to keep this thread semi active so other Jatraqueros can find the game.

Speaking of which, you're in Dwiz.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Okay, I've created an account on the other forum. If one of the mods could add me to the super secret exclusive forum now I'd appreciate it.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
I will not be registering on the other forum. (Nothing personal Beren, but no can do.) So if there's something I need to know to be a good alliance member, someone will have to tell me.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
You're in Noemon.

None taken dkw.

So far nothing major has happened. Just a lot of ideas floating around, like which members to accept, what our logo should be, that kind of stuff.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Thanks Beren!
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
speaking of logos, I just made a banner but I can't host it on photobucket because it's a photoshop image. Can I email it to someone with webspace?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
sure, email it to me at bruinlawyer2002 at yahoo.com

Edit edit: my typed my email address incorrectly, please check again.
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Heh, these are what my two planets look like.

Zegoria:
http://80.237.203.201/download/use/epicblue/planeten/normaltempplanet05.jpg

Firinex:
http://80.237.203.201/download/use/epicblue/planeten/eisplanet07.jpg
(Firinex looks spiffy... Heh, they didn't translate the image name.)

What do yours look like?
 

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Posted by DarkWizard (Member # 6186) on :
 
If one of the mods at the other forum could add me.

Username: Dwiz
 

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Posted by King's Man (Member # 8147) on :
 
Um..., how does one get onto this alliance forum? Please help me.
 

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Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
Hey, Beren, can you add me to the forum?
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
here's the link: http://www.onlinepokercenter.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=26

Is Enigmatic able to do some sort of text message where it says "Welcome"? That would be a good place to stick that link (I keep looking in page 7 of this thread to find it).

edit: Beren, I sent you an email.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Hi Shigosei, you need register as a forum user first.

edited to add: Pictured uploaded here .
 

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Posted by King's Man (Member # 8147) on :
 
Can someone please allow me to get onto the special forum? Thankyou.
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Did you register?
 

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Posted by King's Man (Member # 8147) on :
 
Yes I did register.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Dana, I didn't even think of that at first...it actually took em a second to figure out why not....


I can see you explaining THAT to the church members..


"No really, I wasn't playing poker, really....I was the Empress of a wide flung galatic empire. Really!


Why aren't you bowing to me, anyway?"





Kwea
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Hi King's Man. Sorry to keep you waiting.

Our alliance has grown much faster than we anticipated. As a result, we are having a tough time deciding how to structure our alliance.

Please be patient with us. We will get back to you as soon as we can.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
King's Man, who are you? Are you KoM? Or new here?


//end suspicious mode//
 

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Posted by King's Man (Member # 8147) on :
 
I am just a noob Kwea. I just joined today here and I started playing the game yesterday.
 

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Posted by King's Man (Member # 8147) on :
 
Thank's Beren. I'll try to be patient as I wait.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
What brought you to Hatrack King's Man? Tell us a bit about yourself.
 

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Posted by King's Man (Member # 8147) on :
 
Well, I am a fan of Mr. Card's Ender and Maker series' as well as sci-fi/fantasy in general. I have been surfing this site for a while now and finally decided to join up when I saw this thread. The people here (hatrack in general) seemed nice and not as mean as people on some of the forums I've visited. I don't usually post alot on forums unless I have a question or some observation. I generally read through posts and such during slow times at work. I work at night so they come fairly often but not always. I'll be glad to tell more about myself it you want to know. Is there an introduction forum here?
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
No, but people often post introduction threads for themselves. Whether a person does so or not is entirely up to them.

I'm officially in lurker mode around here at the moment. I used to be fairly active here, but for the last month or so I haven't been around much. This thread had brought me back, for the moment, and I've posted in a few others, but I plan to revert back to lurking as this thread dies down. We'll see if that happens.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Who else do you read, out of curiosity?
 

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Posted by King's Man (Member # 8147) on :
 
Well, I like Terry Goodkinds Sword of Truth series, The Lord of the Rings, Frank Herbert's Dune saga, Robin Hobbs books, Simon R. Green's Nightside series as well as his Blue Moon books, and the Belgeriad and Malloreon as well as The Redemption of Althalus by David and Leigh Eddings.
 

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Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
 
I've registered for the forum with the same name. This is the first game like this I've played. Very intriguing.
 

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Posted by King's Man (Member # 8147) on :
 
Can anyone tell me why when I click the Galaxy button it uses up dueterium?
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I have no idea, but every time to click on it (and I think when you change solar systems) it costs 10 deut. It just does, I s'pose.
 

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Posted by King's Man (Member # 8147) on :
 
Thank's. I didn't know it did that and I just wasted the little bit of deut I had saved up. Oh well.
 

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Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
I have regeristered using this name at the other forum. Let me know when I can get into the super secret universal conquering forum. Thank you.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by sarcasticmuppet:
here's the link: http://www.onlinepokercenter.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=26

Is Enigmatic able to do some sort of text message where it says "Welcome"? That would be a good place to stick that link (I keep looking in page 7 of this thread to find it).

edit: Beren, I sent you an email.

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quote:

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I say we should have an invisionfree forum.

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This might be a good idea. I didn't take into account that some people wouldn't be able to access my forum.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Then Dana can become our fearless leader....


Yeah!
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Galactic Empress sounds like a cool title.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
Would Bob become Emperor?
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Emperor Consort?
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
Dana, would http://jatraqueros.proboards37.com be a better option? We're considering a move to a separate forum space.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Member #2... YES!
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
Number 3
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Sorry, I haven't been participating much. I've been a bit busy last few days.

I'm not particularly concerned about people joining the alliance to spy. You can find out far more tactical information ingame with espionage probes than can be seen off the member list. I'd be a bit more worried about accepting someone who's just an idiot and they attack some big alliance who's fond of revenge.

In my universe 3 game I did my first raid today. Got over 1700 of each resource from it, no casualties. Of course, I attacked someone who had the "idle for 4 weeks" tag on their planet, so it's not like it was that hard! They had 1 missle launcher, I used 3 light fighters and 1 small cargo ship. You do want to have cargo ships on raids to carry the resources back. I'll probably be looking for a raid target in Universe 5 after I get off work tonight. I'll post combat results, if anyone wants to see them. Only rair people who aren't in alliances, and if you see someone with an "i" next to their name they've been idle for at least 2 weeks so have probably abandoned the game. Easy pickings!

--Enigmatic
(is proud to be the pointless figurehead of an alliance of people who are actually doing the organizing and forums and such)
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
There was some confusion over the availability of a forum at my site, so both sarmup and I made a forum indepndantly before realising! Anyway, the link below is to the one I created... if sarmups doesn't work we can consider using mine .

The Other Forum

</shameless plug>

(It took me a while, okay? I'm proud!)
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
I'm have the first post!
 

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Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
 
So...I'm playing, and I'm wondering, when is it you actually get a shipyard? I have a bunch of mines, I have a level two research station, I have construction robots...what am I missing?
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
You need level two robots to build the shipyard.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Robots are what you need, a level Robotic factory, in order to build a shipyard.


Also, if you ever have a question about the "path" and requirments needed for something like that again, just click on Technology and the screen that pops up will tell you somewhere on the list what you need to build/research for most things, if not everything.


Kwea
 

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Posted by Liaison (Member # 6873) on :
 
Seems like there's like 4 forums going for this...is there any consensus to which one we should be using?
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Teshi's is looking like the likely winner.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I've kind of been waiting for some consensus on which forum before registering on any of them. Initially this thread was working fine, but as more people are playing and there's subtopics and such, a separate forum for the game would be good.

In other news, I have a small raiding fleet put together, but in the absence of any planets that I know are good targets I'm working on developing espionage probes.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I am able to access Teshi's forum from work, btw.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I just joined Teshi's forum too....
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Well, I have everything running smoothly now, with only the occasional power hiccup when I build something new.


I will be upgrading my metal mines to level 8 next, my power grid can handle that...then I will probably focus on Deut...If I raise that high enough I suppose I could trade that for just about anything I need. I am the 10th planet out, so I should be far enough away from the sun to make it worth wile.


I can start making cargo ships soon too, as soon as I upgrade my metal mines and get enough metal.

[ June 02, 2005, 10:17 AM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Universe 6 just opened today. I think we need to consider starting over there. There are no stronger players there, adn by getting in on the first day, with an alliance of 32 people right away, we could rock it.


Kwea
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
We'd need to unregister our accounts in universe 5 though, wouldn't we? Don't they have a 1 universe per player rule or something?
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
No, You can have one character per universe....I've already started my planet in uni 6.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
According to the rulebook:

"Every player is entitled for a single account at a time per OGame universe."

So it looks like Kwea's suggestion is perfectly ok.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Per uni, although I just messed up...twice...adn had to send them an email. I messed up typing my email, or something, creating the first world, but never got a password, so I created another. Then I got an email, and thinking it MUST be from the first account I emailed them, telling them what happened, and asking them to remove the second world.

The I open the email...and it is a password for teh Second world, not the first!


So I send another email asking to keep world two.


I figured that if I explained my ISP would be ok...

Kwea
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
Planet Danagoba now exists in the alternate realities of universes 5 and 6.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
dkw...start the jtrqr alliance.
 

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Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Oh! Well in that case I'm all for it!
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
My name in 6 is KweaSr....

The planet is Home.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
This is our chance. Once again the Sith will Rule.....um I mean, we can rule uni 6 if we can get everyone to join.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
Done. Y'all can join now.

Name: jatraquero
Tag: jtrqr
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
What alliance name?


Sure, edit your post and make me look stupid. Well ok..more stupid.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
I can't find it
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Neither can I....
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
That's weird. When I go to the alliance page it says I'm in it.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
I just sent my application...
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
it's there
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
Wowbagger is in.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Application sent.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
This is going to turn into work, isn't it?

Anyone who hasn't applied by noon is going to have to wait until this evening -- I'll be doing away-from-the-office work all afternoon.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
LOL.....where are your priorities? There is a galazy ripe for plundering!!!
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Thanks, dkw...
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
Upgrade someone then so the alliance can grow in your absense.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
Ah, good point!
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Upgrade Bokonon. That's his job, I believe.
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Also:

The New Forum is up and running.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
I've registered for the Teshi-forum. May I come in to the top-secret back room please?

And what did we decide the ranks are supposed to be in the alliance?
 

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Posted by Vasslia Cora (Member # 7981) on :
 
I just applied.
 

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Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
 
I applied for both the alliance and the new forum.

Maybe we should keep the other forum for galaxy 5 and this forum for galaxy 6.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
nfl, are you Panthers325?
 

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Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
 
Yes.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
I just made bok a Top Hat. So he can add members. The rest of you are fedoras.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Fine. Be that way.
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
I can imagine strangers looking at our alliance. "Boy, those guys sure love hats!"
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I've sent a group mail to the Universe 5 alliance to join the universe 6. This may make some of the non-hatrackers apply as well, but I wanted to make sure everyone knew. Besides, if any of them were spies, the alliance they were spying on would either not be in Uni6 or have to start over, anyway.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
Teshi might want to add a new section to her ubercool forum .
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
She already has...
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
This is so cool--I'm playing my Uni5 world Ariel and my Uni6 world Persephone at the same time.
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Do you mean a section for Universe Six?

I already did!

ps. Sarmup I love your planet names .
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
sweet--I hadn't looked yet. :0
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Teshi, I've registered on your forum. Give to me delicious access to private rooms please.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
Could I get a link to Teshi's forum?
 

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Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
www.teshi.org/forum
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
NO, no sats for you, nto worth it that far out from teh sun. Build a Deut fact .
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Hey, if anyone remember's this game and enjoyed it, the people who made it recently released a "space pirate" game that I'm trying out, it seems interresting so far.
 

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Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
 
Oh by the gods... so many hours devoted to Ogame... *sigh*
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Too much time.


This reminds me of newfoundlogic.
 

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Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
It took me a long time break free of ogame...So me and a few friends did suicidal plunge into the #1 player in uni 5...


I'm Retrocide in this crash


http://board.ogame.org/thread.php?threadid=261327


I always thought it was better to burn out then to fade away....
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Hee hee, I'd forgotten about this game.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
If anyone's interrested in the pirate game, I started a jatraqueros alliance. My character is MEC on server 1.

[ July 21, 2007, 11:41 PM: Message edited by: MEC ]
 

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Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
must ... resist ...

I cannot play this game without becoming totally obsessive about it. (As in "I've got to log in so I can send my ships to my other planet so they won't be destroyed! You don't understand - if I don't send them now, they'll be all gone and it will be all your fault!") There are other games I play and obsess over, but not as bad as ogame. So I must stay away from it for the sake of my sanity and my family.
 

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Posted by ricree101 (Member # 7749) on :
 

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Originally posted by MEC:
If anyone's interrested in the pirate game, I started a jatraqueros alliance. My character is MEC on server 1.

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Is there any way to choose the server? I can only seem to register on server 2.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I dunno, I'll look and see what I can find out.

Edit to add:

Well, I've looked on their forums, and apparently you can make characters on both servers. So, I don't know how to help you.

[ July 22, 2007, 04:20 AM: Message edited by: MEC ]
 

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Posted by dantesparadigm (Member # 8756) on :
 
Hmm, I failed to see that this was a fairly old thread and I've started playing Ogame on Universe six. I don't suppose anyone still hangs around thereabouts?
 

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Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
This looks almost identical to 1000 AD.
 

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Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Wow, I was pretty surprised to see this one bumped. Ahh, the good old days when I had high cubicle walls to conceal playing Ogame at work. The game was pretty fun for a while.

--Enigmatic
 

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Posted by Hookt_Un_Fonix (Member # 10094) on :
 
Do we still have a hatrack alliance in universe 5?
 

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Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
*sigh* Now I'm going to be addicted to this Dark Pirates game. I didn't mean to, I just wanted to see what it was, and now I'm out there robbing transports. Oh, and nice mugging MEC. I'll get you next time Gadg... MEC!
 

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Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
 
Remember all of those websites we used to have where we'd discuss strategies and such for our alliance?

Man that game was addicting.
 

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Posted by Hookt_Un_Fonix (Member # 10094) on :
 
well I just signed up after seeing this thread and just started my rookie life.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Did I attack you vonk? sorry. Well, you don't have to worry about me anymore, I quit. I don't want to dedicate that much time to it. That and the pay-to-play guy's missles were annoying. I had a stronger ship than anyone else in the game, but their stupid missles would kill me anyway.
 

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Posted by Hookt_Un_Fonix (Member # 10094) on :
 
well send me your stuff then, help a rookie out lol
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
Sorry, I already sold all the stuff and donated it to my old alliance. Besides, you can't send stuff to other players.
 

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Posted by Hookt_Un_Fonix (Member # 10094) on :
 
ah it was worth a shot. Looking for an alliance now though that might help a newb build. Right now just following the advice I received on this thread.
 

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Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
What I suggest is to trade minerals with the trading colonies:

Djem Al Dhir
Teril Tkarr
Limes Ater
Atlanticans
Sandstorm Nebula
Avalon Sector
Carminian

Going back and forth between a few colonies that are close is best for starting out. Write down what the various minerals are selling for, so that you can have a reference (stock and prices change every hour). Buy when the minerals are low in price, and sell at higher. It works best when you can form a loop of colonies to both sell and buy at each.

Once you have enough you should buy a new ship with a bigger cargo hold, enableing you to carry more than one type of mineral at a time. I first upgraded to the Sunfox then eventually the Conqueror.

I have a list of the minerals and price ranges that I've found:

Iron:3-6
Duran:14-25
Polenium:21-39
Quadrinium:6-11
Helenium:175-325
Phosarit:63-116
Melanit:98-182
 

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Posted by Hookt_Un_Fonix (Member # 10094) on :
 
thanks man, I should be building ships soon. I have a heck of a production base building up. The price guide should really really help.
 

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