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Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
really - it's a blessing, right . . . ? to be awake when the rest of your neighborhood sleeps? to have all the quiet time you could hope for?

*quietly bashes head that won't shut up and let the exhausted body sleep*
 
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I'm awake too.
 
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
 
Let's try some therapy..
when you see this image you will sleep
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[Sleep]
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
hmphhhh - that didn't cut it - could someone come over and rub my back and sing me lullabyes, pretty please?

*sniff*
 
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
 
[Wave] Hi, Shan! Remember, the nighttime is the right time!

"Bring on the night - I couldn't stand another hour of daylight." - The Police
 
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
 
Hi Shan,

I have been an insomniac the last few weeks too. I'm thinking of going back to school and taking a cobal theory class- the reading in computer science always put me to sleep. [Smile]
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Jonny! What are you doing up? Studying for finals, I trow! *waves back*
 
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
 
Heh, I would *so* be tempted to come over just to surprise you, but 3 other people are counting on me to synthesize their parts together for a 10 page paper that's due tomorrow.

Stupid schoolwork! [Grumble]
 
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
 
Maybe you just need a new mattress. Or a new pillow.


Or another sleepy smiley [Sleep]


ba dum chhhh
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
So, crazy question for all you night owls. Do you think I should wash the dirty dishes now or wait until tomorrow when I am actually - hopefully - able to sleep? (Which means of course then they would be put off for another day . . . *grin*)
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
quote:
but 3 other people are counting on me to synthesize their parts together
That is SOOOO ripe for an OOC, you realize!

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
Got yah all beat. Try being up 'till midnight when you have to be up at 3:45am to work a 12.5 hour shift at a mentally demanding job.

No, it's not a blessing.
 
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
OHYEAHWELLIMNOTEVENGOINGTOSLEEP!
 
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
AWwww...Washington's a bit far, or I'd do it. Not that I can sing or anything, but I'd try.
 
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
 
Silly, silly woman, never work when you can't sleep in the wee hours of the morning!

You are morally obligated to watch old movies, worry over problems that are beyond your control and come to brilliant conclusions that will be completely forgotten by morning. If you must "work", I suggest baking an apple pancake then inviting the rest of us sleep deprived folks over to share it with you.
 
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
 
You guys have got a real problem here.
One of my friends suffered from insomnia for a little while, and he didn't take it seriously.

We don't like to talk about it, but let's just say things didn't turn out very good for him.

[Cry]
 
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
MY HEAD'S GOING TO EXPLODE!!!!
 
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
 
or worse
 
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
OH NO, I DON'T WANT TO TURN INTO A FURRY!
 
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
 
If you can't sleep..you can atleast laugh!


No wonder you have insomnia
what insomniacs are really thinking about in the wee hours of the morning

Okay, I actually laughed out loud at this one.

What do you get if you cross an insomniac, an agnostic and a dyslexic?
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Someone who stays up all night wondering if there really is a dog.


and i laughed out loud at this one

animal insomniac clinic


[ROFL]

You're welcome, all you non-sleepers.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
LadyDove, an apple pancake sounds delightful! I happen to have all the fixin's - however, in order to make one in my cast iron pan, I would need to wash some dishes and clean the kithen a bit . . . hmmm - this must be the sort of predicament you referred to.

Actually, I solved a work-related conundrum last night when the insomnia grabbed me for a couple of hours after a three hour nap. That was rather fun.

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Tater, I refuse to look at those links in case I actually do get some sleep this evening and then have a nightmare. Hmphh. (grin)
 
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
 
[Frown]

but they were funny.
at least the last one was really funny.
Sigh.
 
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
 
::laughing:: I hope you get a few hours of shut-eye. I'll be thinking of you as I watch reruns on Nick-At-Night.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
I have to admit the racoons were very cute. (giggles)
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MEC:
OHYEAHWELLIMNOTEVENGOINGTOSLEEP!

LMAO! [ROFL]
 
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
 
Now.. worship me. [Razz]


I'm going to go read some from "The Horse and His Boy."
(So I'm a little slow getting into the series, the point is that I'm getting there.)
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
I just finished Oliver Twist (again), unabridged, complete with historical footnotes and lexicon of the lower class vocabulary.

*muses*

Perhaps I should read some Hemingway.
 
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
AHHHH! THE RACOONS KNOW HOW TO READ!
 
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
 
I like 'For Whom the Bell Tolls'.
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
I am mildly annoyed at all the happy little song birds out there that think it is almost dawn.

Oh. It really IS dawn.

[ June 01, 2005, 05:48 AM: Message edited by: Theca ]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
*kills singing birds*
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
Shan have you tried Moby Dick?
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
I had insomnia last night, too.

I made cinnamon raisin bread and am planning to take it a family I know this afternoon. Maybe that will help.
 
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
 
Cinnamon and raisins? Yuck.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Moby Dick? Hmmm . . . I think I may have at one point. Let's see - what Hemingway do I have on my shelves -

A Farewell to Arms
The Sun Also Rises
For whom the Bell Tolls

Which do you suggest, AJ?
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
grin, I haven't read any of the three. I guess the question is whether you want to go to sleep or stay awake... The problem is that you can't acutally read a good author, because you'll start enjoying it too much and not be able to put the book down. I've heard Billy Budd is also good for insomnia therapy... especially according to my roommate who had to write a paper on it.

AJ
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Huh...there's something going around, because I'm having wicked problems with falling asleep and staying asleep. Even with seroquel and even when I tried increasing the dose. o_O
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
We need an insomniac-con, I think . . .
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
Here's an insomnia forum! And it only has three members so the Hatrack Insomniacs can easily take over. Mwahahahaha. The owner might even thank us for livening up the place.

http://www.circadianarrythmia.com/forum/

Although really Hatrack itself basically IS a place for insomniacs certain hours of the day.
 
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
 
It should be an insomniac council. It's like the Jedi council, with all of us in a room, or in a room with monitors each with one of our faces on it and a moveable webcam so we can see the other monitors...of course we'd have to have a webcam in our homes, too.

Then we could have MEC come in and we'd tell him that he can be on the council, but we would not grant him the rank of master because he doesn't know how to use lowercase letters...
 
Posted by alluvion (Member # 7462) on :
 
shan's cool.
 
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
 
*wishes the stupid sleep doctor would just call the pharmacy and okay the refills on his medicine so he can actually sleep for the first time in a week*
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
Is that like an official sleep specialist?
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
I'M BACK FOR MORE! WHO ELSE IS STILL UP?!!
 
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
 
Me, but then again it's 9AM here, so no, I don't have insomnia. [Smile]
 
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
 
It's three a.m. here and I'm so sleepy I could die. But I'm trying to solve a computer problem before I leave for New York, so I'm kind of trapped ...

Got to go to bed ... sleep ... sleep ...

I did watch Hero tonight, though, so maybe I'm unconsciously refusing to sleep in order to avoid dreams of people flying at me with swords.
 
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
 
I've watched Sin City yesterday and this is - I think - only the second time that a movie that I just saw made it to my dreams the night after it. I mean, usually I can go through horror movies and sleep like a baby, but this one... Probably because it got me all excited?! That's scary too, that such a film could get me in the state I was yesterday... [Angst] And no, I don't remember exactly what the dream was about.
 
Posted by HollowEarth (Member # 2586) on :
 
Still up here. Writing my paper for my research so I can turn it in tomorrow and then graduate next week.
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
Still haven't seen Sin City. Want to though!

Okay, my mind is shutting down now. Time for sleepy. Nite kids. [Sleep]

Good luck on the 'puter prob Card! [Smile]
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
The birds are singing again.

I found one of the these cans at the Asian store when I bought curry today. Can't get the image out of my head--

http://www.kgrocer.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=84
 
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
((Shan))

When I can't sleep I practice Yoga Nidra.

Basically you lie still and allow a soothing voice to guide your mind through a tour of your body. It is very relaxing. [Smile]

I use this CD which can be purchased from Amazon. Or, you can try a free sample from Tim Rowe.
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
Interesting.

Last night, at the same time Orson Scott Card was posting in this very thread, I was silenting grumbling about him.

Tired beyond belief, I had a short section left in Homebody and I could not put it down. Then, when I did finish it, I was up for another hour thinkng about it.

I would curse him in a pretend way, but after reading that book, I can't joke around about that stuff. (shudder)
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Scott, what did you think of Hero? I have it now, and will probably watch it in the next few days. I haev heard mixed reviews . . .


BTW, I have a question . . is it OK to call you Scott? [Blushing] OSC seems too bulky if I am asking you a question, and I have heard/seen others call you that, but I don't recall if it was a discussion about you, or including you... I have never asked before. [Big Grin]

I hate it when people call me Bob rather than Rob, so I thought I would ask. [Big Grin]


Kwea
 
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
 
Shan , ( and other insomniacs) a great cure is to get "For us, the Living" by Heinlein and when you can't sleep try to read the "economics lesson". Works every time.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
I had no idea there were so many other sleep-deprived individuals in the world! Amazing. And with so many great hints and ideas!
 
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
 
Looks like a perfect time for an Ambien commerical.

"Works like a dream."

Seriously, have any of you tried this stuff? I might've actually had a normal teenagehood if I had this drug then. I might not of gotten addicted to late night episodes of Star Trek:TNG and M*A*S*H.

But thanks to insomnia, I got to experience the greatest invention ever-the Rotato (as seen on T.V.).
 
Posted by alluvion (Member # 7462) on :
 
insomnia sucks.

sure, waking up as a kid to stare at the ceiling and wonder about the connections of all the things you've learned about is... well like putting a puzzle together, and you do, and it all makes sense, and you go to sleep.

as an adult, that confounding puzzle is like sailing between the... (line? greek reference to twin debacles?) <- precisely like that.
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
I don't remember putting that particular puzzle together very well as either a child or an adult. There were always more pieces getting added all the time.
 
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
 
What's wrong with M*A*S*H? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by carolan (Member # 2106) on :
 
I'm carolan and I'm not an insomniac. My only excuse is that I work nights so I'm in a constant state of sleep debt.

I needed to mention that I'm slightly horrified at the thought of 'canned chrysallis'.

Let's leave it at that...
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
Thanks Beren.

I will look at those CDs and try out the sample. I have been looking for a way to enter meditation for both connecting to God and trying to relax my body and mind so I can sleep.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Another night.

Another night without sleep.

And a bad attitude.

*head bashing commences*
 
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
Someday I will learn not to drink caffine after 2pm. Someday . . . [Grumble]

<---- Had half a soda with supper. Will probably not sleep until 4.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Poor dkw. Have Bob rub your back. I do miss having a good back-rubbing partner . . . even if I couldn't sleep, I was deliciously relaxed.
 
Posted by alluvion (Member # 7462) on :
 
*there's some gals I like quite a lot*
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
Yuo aren't on strong cough syrup or steroids for the pneumonia, are you, Shan? They can keep people awake.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
I think the initial "drying out" phase after two weeks of usage from the codeine/guiefnessan(sp?) cough syrup kicked off the insomnia, Theca. That ole "ker-boioioing" reaction.

The flovent and albuterol inhalant at full-dose give bad jitters and racing heart, so I take them at half-dose.

No caffeine products right now, in deference to the flovent/alb reaction.

However, it is definitely hard to sleep. Once I'm there, I definitely don't want to get up, though . . .

I figure at least part of it is due to the fact that my lungs aren't working well enough yet to let me get in my daily required dose of aerobic activity.

I think the answer is it will just take time, and getting weaned off the inhalants - my system is just super sensitive to chemicals . . . and needs strenuous physical activity on a daily basis in order to relax and sleep.
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
Well, at least you're not a cronic like me.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Well, I don't know about that, EM. I had to work hard over the first 34 years of my life to learn how to sleep - I've had insomnia since I was a kid. But about 2 years ago, it finally started leveling off, and I could be guaranteed decent sleep at least 4 out of 7 days. So this slide back is a little disturbing and frustrating. I'm sure it'll all resolve in time . . .
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
Oh shoot. I take that back then! LOL
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
All right, everyone - I'm am going to bed now. And I am going to sleep soundly, undisturbedly, all night long.

*the power of positive thought, right?*

[Sleep]
 
Posted by alluvion (Member # 7462) on :
 
g'night shannon.
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
Me too. I'm finally out as well. Nite.
 
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
 
quote:
as an adult, that confounding puzzle is like sailing between the... (line? greek reference to twin debacles?)
Scylla and Carybdis (Caribdys?)
 
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
 
OK, I am going to bed now. Hopefully to sleep.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Hah! NINE hours of sleep. Phew! What a lovely feeling.

*sigh of relief*

How 'bout the rest of you sleep-deprived folks - did you get a wink or forty?
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
I grabbed four, which means I'm tired as heck and will get eight or nine tonight.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Okay, well I don' wanna do the reverse and only get a few tonight, so I am holding on to those good sleep vibes . . .

In case I can't though, I have the old Narnia series to watch while I do laundry and other household chores.

But, no! Positive sleep vibes - that's the ticket!

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ARRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

I gave it a valiant effort.

My yawns were so wide my face almost split in two.

My body was limp and my eyes were heavy.

I turned off the light, snuggled down tight, and ker-blammm . . .

I HATE MY STUPID F***ING HEAD THAT WON'T SHUT UP AND INSISTS ON RELIVING THE FINER (AND NOT SO FINE) POINTS DOWN THROUGH THE MINUTES, HOURS, DAYS, WEEKS, AND FREAKING YEARS OF MY LIFE.

*banging head emoticom would fit nicely right here*

[ June 05, 2005, 03:02 AM: Message edited by: Shan ]
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
Time for some insomniac haiku!!!

Locked in eternal embrace,
She torments my nights,
Forever eyes open.

Moonlight Temptress, K.V. Burch

[ June 08, 2005, 04:08 AM: Message edited by: Exploding Monkey ]
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
Vampiric I seem,
Lust not for other's life blood,
Only for deep sleep.

Nocturnal Needs, me (again)
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
Mind is in a blur,
The lonely world closes around me,
Peace draws nearer now.

The Last Moments of Awareness, K.V. Burch

Nite-nite all... [Sleep]
 
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
 
To toil the morrow,
A restful night is needed,
Slumber will be mine.

Mission: Sleep, by me (yet again)

None of the insomniacs seem to want to play 'bad hakius' with me. Oh well, my mind will wander alone then. [Wink]
 


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