quote:A stranger said, "Don't you think your children are being deprived of the thrill of buying school supplies at Wal-Mart when everyone else does?"
Posted by Jay (Member # 5786) on :
How funny!
quote:The average home-schooled child has no problem “socializing” with other children..... as long as he remembers to use smaller words and shorter sentences.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
This would be a good time to point out that 8 out of every 10 home schooled student I have ever met (I used to go to a private christian school- my experience is not limited) typically had some kind of major social defect that prevented them from functioning on a basic, human level. There's something to be said about the social ladder and not sheltering your children.
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
My dating habits would tend to add further validity to that idea Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
Given what passes for the social norm, "socially defective" is a label I wear proudly.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Um. Let's not get that started. My husband's former employer and his wife homeschool/ed all 9 (9) of their kids, and they are all socially, emotionally, physically, and mentally healthy. One went to nationals last year or the year before in the HS baseball league (whatever it's called). The oldest is at West Point. The two younger than him each have scholarships and attend the local state university. The teenage girls help out at their dad's vet clinic when he needs them. You just can't generalize either way. There are good and bad to home-, public, and private schooling. There are good and bad homeschool experiences. Really, let's not start.
I liked the lightbulb joke. Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
Wear it proudly, you goof, wear it proudly.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
The home schooled kids I've met are just as "normal" as any other person I've met, and I know at least 5 of them.
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
PC, I'd say that's about the same proportion I see in the general population.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
8 in 10?
There's a reason it's called a social norm, zgator, and it's not because only 2 out of 10 act that way.
Maybe you hang around alot of social defects.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Be nice to PC - he was homeschooled.
*runs away*
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
As someone who was myself homeschooled for a handful of years, I'm inclined to agree with PC; the majority of kids I've seen who've come through the process were sorely lacking in socialization -- and many of them were lacking in proper education. There are exceptions, of course -- I like to think, for example, that I got some decent book-learnin' from my mom, even if I know I wasn't socialized enough, and I know plenty of social home-schoolers, too, even if most of their "socialization" tends to revolve around their local church -- but I think homeschooling only makes sense as an alternative, not a panacea or a matter of course.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
The personal anecdote argument is also skewed by the fact the homeschooling "failures" are more likely to return to public or private school than the "successes" are.
AJ
(note I'm *not* saying there aren't socialization issues with homeschoolers, but anyone in public or private school is likely to have a much more skewed data set. I who never went to either kind of school, will have skewed data in the opposite direction.)
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Heh. I think my new stock response to the socialisation question will be, "We both went to public school, and we were both such social misfits we figured we couldn't have normal children anyway". ( Actually, Olivia is highly popular in any group of kids she walks into, and we don't know how to deal with it. Not that there's anything wrong with popularity, it's just something we have no frame of reference for)
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Oh, and what AJ said.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
As a teacher, I can say with great confidence that socialization does not come as a magical side dish to large group education.
Posted by Wendybird (Member # 84) on :
I'll have to see if I can get the link to an article my dad printed for me. "Researchers" are now finding that homeschooled students are just as socialized as public school students.
Anyway, thanks for the jokes Posted by Wendybird (Member # 84) on :
I particularly like this one... thanks for making me laugh. I needed it today.
< A mother from my daughter's former public school class said, "If you were more involved in your child's education, then you wouldn't have to home school." >
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
"Researchers". Ah. I love the quotations marks.
I think that, in recent years, a greater proportion of those that choose to homeschool are doing it right, and for the right reasons. I think that this has not always been the case. I also think that there are still far too many who do not do it right, and who do it for the wrong reasons.
My wife has a friend who has seven young children, and who homeschools them because it is too hard for her to get them all ready and off to school in the morning. She doesn't take them much of anywhere, also because it's too hard.
Surely it's a coincidence that all but the oldest are dumb as a box of rocks.
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Oh, I liked this one!
quote: From Rose Mary Coffey: When my husband told his mother that we were going to home school, she replied, "What makes Rose Mary think she has the right to teach my grandchildren?"
Mike: It's in the same clause of the Constitution which gives grandmas the right to feed cookies and candy to the grandkids an hour before being sent home for dinner.
I used to get the same garbage for private schooling Nathan at Waldorf. Now, I do have to say - while grade K and 1 were fine and dandy, grades 2 and 3 were horrible, awful, bad. His public school now has him caught up in basics, and he has worked hard enough in some areas to be advanced.
Actually, he informed me that now that he had the basics down pat, he was ready to go back to Waldorf. Posted by Obi-Zahn Kenobi (Member # 8036) on :
I was homeschooled til high school. I would say that the "socialization" problem is not that home schooled kids aren't properly socialized, but that the public schooled kids are improperly socialized. I find that your average homeschooled kid is a nice person who can interact at any level, but your average public schooled kid is a jerk. Note: these are just the kids I'm talking about.
Posted by Sartorius (Member # 7696) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: even if most of their "socialization" tends to revolve around their local church
In my group of homeschoolers, our socialization revolved around seeing how many Steak'n'Shakes we could get thrown out of.
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
I don't know 10 people that have been homeschooled. Probably because I received such excellent socialization in my public school education Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
mothertree at least here on hatrack I'm betting you actually do know 10 former or current homeschooled students. (I'm differentiating the students from the parents.) AJ
Posted by Wendybird (Member # 84) on :
LOL MT
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Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
Hey my home schooled child was dressed up as a saggy baggy elephant and tap dancing in front of 150 people yesterday... what's socially defective about that?
Posted by Stan the man (Member # 6249) on :
I think this is great. It's hilarious.
However, I also believe it is a wonderful thing for the parents to take such an interest in their childrens' lives. I don't even care if it is just staying for the scout meetings and going to an outing now and then. Parents seem to be detaching themselves these days.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
Homeschooling aside, I have a hard time taking anything Bruce Tinsley says with any seriousness.
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