I love Jessica Alba.
Posted by Zemra (Member # 5706) on :
In the commercials it looks too much like The Incredibles but I have not seen it yet.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
It's out now? (runs to check theatre listings locally)
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
The problem with that, Zemra, is that the Incredibles were a total rip off of the Fantastic Four. It was really amazing how close they were.
In the FF (which has been around since the fourties) it is: Husband: Stretchy Wife: Invisibility / Force Fields Brother: Flight, Fire Friend: Strong / Durable
In the Incredibles, they made the wife stretchy, the husband strong, and the daughter invis/force fields. The fact that they made the daughter have invisibility and force fields together demonstrates that it was a rip off, since having one doesn't necessarily mean you have the other. They are fairly unrelated.
Then in Incredibles, the bad guy is a non-superhero who uses technology for his powers, just like Dr. Doom in the Fantastic Four.
If that wasn't enough evidence, the classic FF villian Mole Man comes out of the ground at the end of the movie! (on a huge machine with a mining drill on the front, just like Mole Man always does in the comics)
I was shocked that their wasn't any lawsuits against Pixar by Marvel Comics.
That's not to say that Incredibles was not a good movie, because it was. In fact, I would bet that it will prove way better than the Fantastic Four movie (which I have very little hope for).
But while the Incredibles / Fantastic Four comparisons are extremely valid, the FF came first by almost half a century.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
Xavier,
I think there weren't lawsuits for 2 reasons:
1)Pixar was careful
and
2) it was a tribute, not a ripoff.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Wow. I had no idea they were so close Xav. That's really crazy!
This movie (FF) still looks like it's gonna be a lot of fun (for those of us that have never read the comics and don't know what's it's really supposed to be like.) I might even see it!
Posted by AC (Member # 7909) on :
the Fantastic Four have been around since 1961, not the "fourties", though Mr. Fantastic's powers were the same as Plastic Man's (who was in the forties or fifties), and the Human Torch was the name of another superhero from the forties.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Pixar is great for paying homage; I'm sure that's what was intended in the Incredibles.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Dammit AC, I knew I should have fact checked that claim . For some reason I thought they were from the fourties, I think because the Human Torch was in world war II. Of course that was a robot version, not Johnny Storm.
Posted by Jay (Member # 5786) on :
How was Pixar careful? It was blatantly oblivious if you ever read any Fantastic Four comics. And how is it a tribute? I think I’ll have a school of brilliant college kids where they fight each other then graduate to a simulator where they fight off invading aliens, but it turns out to be real. I mean it’s different. I could make an animated movie and make millions. Maybe I should call Pixar. I mean it would be a tribute to OSC right?
Posted by Puppy (Member # 6721) on :
The Incredibles had its own plot, its own distinctive concept, and its own identity that was very separate from the Fantastic Four. But it set up its characters as homages to classic superheroes to make it familiar, both as an archetypal fantasy world we would be instantly immersed in, and as a satire of our childhood heroes.
That's very different from trying to write a competing story that takes all its core elements from a pre-existing work.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Oh I forgot to mention, when the baby burst into flames, I immediately thought "well there's the fourth". Then it shifted, but I don't think it was a coincidence that the baby had the human torch's powers first.
Posted by aragorn64 (Member # 4204) on :
Egh, every time I read "FF" on this thread I keep thinking Final Fantasy...
Posted by The Silverblue Sun (Member # 1630) on :
Fantastic Four starts tomorrow. Jessica Alba is still hot today.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
From the trailers I've seen: Johnny Storm seems like the best thing in the movie. Funny and just the right attitude. Dr. Doom seems... blatantly wrong. I guess they wanted to tie him in with the 4's origins instead of having him be the ruler of Latavia (Is that even close? Starts with an L). Maybe it'll be ok.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
I am totally going to see this.
Why? I don't care about the Fantastic Four. I never have. Never read their comics. Couldn't tell you any of the characters' names. The Fantastic Four never interested me.
Yeah. I'm going to get me some Alba. Just like I probably wouldn't have seen Spider-Man if Kirsten Dunst hadn't been in it. (Which would have been my loss. Even without her, it was still an excellent movie.)
Posted by AC (Member # 7909) on :
Latveria
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Thanks, AC.
Chris Hewitt, the movie reviewer for the St. Paul paper, hated Fantastic Four. If anything, this is a good sign. He pretty much pans anything that's actually fun to watch, unless it has a "serious" actor he likes in it, in which case he drools over their performance and complains about the rest of the movie.
--Enigmatic (may be exagerrating, but not by much)
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
PS. Mole Man appeared in the second adventure of the FF, just like he appears at the end of the movie to start what appears to be the combined families second adventure.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
There's someone who actually finds Kirsten Dunst hot? Who knew!
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
::doesn't find Kirsten Dunst to be especially hot::
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jon Boy: There's someone who actually finds Kirsten Dunst hot? Who knew!
She's hyper hot...
Good actress too.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
I'm not questioning her acting abilities. I'm questioning the fact that someone thinks her face isn't scary.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Scary? She does have that little fang, but she is sooooo dreamny.
Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
I like a little blood mixed in.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Kirsten Dunst's attractiveness is a total matter of taste. I understand when people say she's uber-hot, and I understand when some say she's not at all attractive. More so than most celebrities. Its really hard for me to describe... I think my personal attraction has to do with her mannerisms. When I look at pictures of her, I am not at all impressed. Seeing her in a movie (like Wimbleton or Crazy/Beautiful) and I see what the fuss is about.
She's sexy .
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
She's sexy even when she looks busted like she did in Crazy/Beautiful. Her acting was amazing in it.
Posted by Lanfear (Member # 7776) on :
heh. this thread is as close to a regular thread on a regular forum, that i have ever seen on hatrack. Kind of funny
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
Kirsten Dunst is hot as a pot of water brought to a rolling boil. I've thought so ever since I first saw her in Interview With the Vampire. And before anyone says anything, I'm only a year or two older than her, so I was the right age when that came out to find her hot. I don't find her hot when I watch that movie now, but I still find her hot in her current stuff.
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
Watched it.
Mediocre. Forgettable.
The writer and the director used off the shelf comic book movie themes, canned them, and put it up on the screen.
Some plot holes, minimal characterization, ho-hum special effects, the beginning moved way too fast, some situations felt forced, some situations made no sense (Why do you go extreme snowboarding right after you were in a hospital? And for that matter, how many nurses do you meet that are both hot and can ski the K2?! Lame).
The human torch did have a few good comic moments, and 'The Thing's' rock suit was well done.
You want to see a good superhero flick, buy The Incredibles. You want to kill two hours, rentThe Fantastic Four.
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. For some reason I thought they were from the fourties, I think because the Human Torch was in world war II. Of course that was a robot version, not Johnny Storm.