Are there any other hatrack terms I need to learn in order to get along?
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
A dobie is a thread where the title is a parody of another thread's title. The content of the first post is traditionally a link which points to something related to the parody subject. For example, if someone were to, say, dobie "Harry Potter" with a thread titled "Hairy Potter," then the link would probably be to a site about, or with a picture of, a clay-worker with lots of hair. Dobies are named after the user who started the whole tradition. Note that most people do not think dobies are particularly funny (or rather, they think that few can do them well). Unless you have a brilliant idea for a dobie, you should probably refrain.
A mayfly is a thread that will probably be deleted by the person who started it. The name comes from mayflies, insects with very short lives.
One other obscure term you should know is "onanism." If you don't know it, look it up in a dictionary (NOT a google search). I'm not explaining this one to you, though.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
It's MASTURBATION.
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
Thanks for putting it in all caps, jebus. It really helps the hard of hearing.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
No! You're suppose to get angry and give me a chance to defy authority.
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
In what context would the term onanism be used at hatack?
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
And someone should come up with slang for all the advice threads.
They are very common and need to be renamed in hatrack-speak, in my opinion.
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
jatraquero -a is a Spanglish term for hatracker (the -o suffix is masculine, the -a feminine) coined by David Bowles.
There are families on hatrack, or maybe we're all one big family by now, of adopted relationships. This was begun by Saudade. Almost everyone is Bernard's sibling, I think, and the rest are connected through him, usually, if not in other ways as well. Quite often, as in most small, closely knit communities, in more ways than one. This gives rise to good old hatrack incest, in which, for example, Pod found out he was dating his own niece (Jaiden) more than a year after they had become a couple.
Some of our adopted family relationships are not found in your standard geneological programs, for instance Minions and Acolytes, yet these are tender and close permanent family connections, nevertheless. (I know that Saudade would never deny her minions their generous half-carrot-a-week food/pay package, and they in turn would never cease to send her all their money.)
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
TL a very common usage for the term onanism is when someone posts "I'm relieved this isn't an onanism thread." in just about any thread whose title might be construed to be referring obliquely to the practice. I believe this tradition was started by Papa Moose.
[ July 09, 2005, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: Tatiana ]
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
memes are ideas which take hold of people's minds, propagate themselves, and survive in the "meme pool" for possibly no other reason than that they have lodged themselves there and can't be got rid of. This term was coined by Richard Dawkins, I believe, in his book "The Selfish Gene" but was popularized on hatrack by David Bowles. The classic example of a meme, in my opinion, which just won't die regardless of the fact that it has no function at all (certainly not humor) is the idea of the dobie.
Another one might be the "last post" concept. This actually started because some forgotten genius long ago, in typical fashion felt that every thread they posted in promptly died. They posted a thread stating that they were the thread killer. (Everyone seems to feel like they're a thread killer, from time to time. I'm the supreme thread killer now, I think. )
Anyway, others posted to prove them wrong, and to prove that THEY were in fact the master killer of all threads. That idea took off and ages and ages later, we still have the various last post threads (which I personally find delightful).
Maybe someday someone will teach me to see something charming about dobies too. Who knows? One can hope. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:jatraquero -a is a Spanglish term for hatracker (the -o suffix is masculine, the -a feminine) coined by David Bowles.
"Ratraquero" is the Portugese-esque equivalent.
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
Porter, is that pronounced something like the same way? I keep hearing that in a Scooby Doo voice, because of my lack of familiarity with Portuguese pronunciation.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
quote:Another one might be the "last post" concept. This actually started because some forgotten genius long ago, in typical fashion felt that every thread they posted in promptly died. They posted a thread stating that they were the thread killer. (Everyone seems to feel like they're a thread killer, from time to time. I'm the supreme thread killer now, I think. )
It was Yebor1 who posted the original one.
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
I thought it was Ratraquenho, mph.
There was a thread titled "Onanism" long ago -- I can no longer remember who posted it. One of the younger members -- possibly Yebor1 or Shlomo. Anyway, when another thread title could function as double-entendre (say, for example, To Quit, or Not To Quit), I would often post in the thread "<Relieved this isn't an Onanism thread.>" Been going on ever since.
--Pop
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Porter, is that pronounced something like the same way?
It's pronounced pretty much exactly the same way.
An R at the beginning of a portugese word is pronounced just like an "H" in English.
quote:I thought it was Ratraquenho, mph.
That's not how I've ever done it.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
"Ratraquenho" is a variant of "Ratraquero", coined by OSC himself.
If my understanding of Portuguese orthography is correct, its pronunciation is something like "Hatracainyo".
Edit: Wait, was it actually spelled "Ratraquenho"? I can't remember off the top of my head, but it seems to me there was an I in there somewhere. "-queinho", maybe? I don't remember. Hm.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
Umm, how is Onanism the same as masturbation?
Onan had a partner, he just, uh, didn't finish.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
It comes from a misinterpretation of the story. A lot of people thought Onan's sin was spilling his seed on the ground, and that therefore any sex act that put the seed anywhere but a woman's womb was sinful. Masturbation being the most common example of that, it got the name "onanism".
Onan's real sin, of course, was refusing to impregnate his brother's widow to carry on the family line. Which is not at all the same thing. But that interpretation wouldn't give us many chances to use the word "onanism", and then where would Hatrack be?
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
So ...
GLOSSARY OF HATRACK TERMS:
mayfly: a post that will be deleted quickly by its creator, for one reason or another.
dobie: a thread parodying an already existing thread.
onanism: onanism.
jatraquero: male hatracker.
jatraquera: female hatracker.
meme: an idea which catches on.
last post thread: a thread in which the goal is to be the last poster.
What else am I missing? Are these definitions correct?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by TL: So ...
GLOSSARY OF HATRACK TERMS:
mayfly: a post that will be deleted quickly by its creator, for one reason or another. -------------------------------------------
Are these definitions correct?
Try this instead:
mayfly: a post which may be deleted quickly by its creator, for one reason or another. Some mayflies have surprisingly long lifetimes.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
fora: The plural of forum. Is often used to describe the loose network of forums that are related in some way to Hatrack. Some examples are Sake River, GreNME, Galactic Cactus, MadOwl, Gamesmaq, and Platic Castle. There are others.
Most of these are forums that are run by a ratrequero or an ex-jatraquero. Many hatrackers that no longer post here can be seen on these other fora.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
quote:Technically, the Portuguese version should be "ratraqueiros."
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
But notice which one stuck? You still lose.
We even made an official announcement...in that thread....where no one else could read unless they read that thread. How much more official can it get?! Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
quote:fora: The plural of forum. Is often used to describe the loose network of forums that are related in some way to Hatrack. Some examples are Sake River, GreNME, Galactic Cactus, MadOwl, Gamesmaq, and Platic Castle. There are others.
Good one Porter! Geez!
*waits for the innevitable influx of newbies*
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
quote:Technically, the Portuguese version should be "ratraqueiros."
That's where the "I" fit in. I knew there was one in one of those somewhere.
Well, I still like "Ratraquenho" better.
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
Okay, how about shinda?
Posted by theCrowsWife (Member # 8302) on :
All right, now I have a question: I've seen a number of threads where people write "So*". What's with the asterisk?
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Pooka AKA Trisha the Severe Hottie AKA Mothertree once noticed that whenever anybody starts a post with "So,", that person was going to completely disagree with the earlier post. To prove her wrong, we all started starting posts with "So*", and then at the end we'd put
* for pooka
Posted by theCrowsWife (Member # 8302) on :
Ah. So you use So* if you're not going to completely disagree with the earlier post? Or has it just evolved into always being used?
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
No, we pretty much started using it anytime to "prove" that mothertree was wrong.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Okay, how about shinda?
A Shinda (pl. Shindae) is a SoCal Hatrack gathering. Originally a misspelling of "shindig" on a cake at the very first one, it has become the official name of all such gatherings. We have lost count of how many there have been (unless Pop remembers).
quote: No, we pretty much started using it anytime to "prove" that mothertree was wrong.
Personally, I think it went from funny to sometime in May or June.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Graemlins (compleat with ye pseudo-olde-English spelling) are what any other forum calls smileys.
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Porter/ Anti-Cool/Mr. Homestarrio eyes
Though I had forgotten about the contrarywiseguyness. I think I poste about it because there was like 5 threads starting with "So,..." that day. And they had switched because the day before I had pointed out how many people were starting threads with "Well,..."
I mean, people are going to contradict you no matter what you post, right?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Yeah, I didn't think contrariness figured into it at ALL. And I was there for pooka's post. Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: Graemlins (compleat with ye pseudo-olde-English spelling) are what any other forum calls smileys.
Lots of other forums call them graemlins.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Well, I guess the contrariness was just the reason that *I* did it.
Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
Don't forget WENCHES!!!
Posted by MidnightBlue (Member # 6146) on :
The "other side" refers to the opposite forum of that in which it was posted. Okay, that might make no sense. For instance if someone posts in Books, Films, Food, and Culture to check out a thread on the other side, he/she is referring to the Discussions about Orson Scott Card forum, and vice versa.
Posted by MidnightBlue (Member # 6146) on :
Would landmark threads be considered hatrack slang? I don't frequent a lot of forums (fora ) so I don't know that's a common thing, but I kind of doubt it.
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
Definitely Hatrack slang.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
It's not really slang, but it's definitely a hatrack phenomemon.
After all, doesn't something have to have a "norml" or "proper" name in order for another name for it to be slang?
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I believe the word "squicky" is Hatrack slang, non? I've since incorporated it into my everyday vocabulary, but I think I heard it here first.
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
I made Tom use a smiley. Maybe I will date him after all.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
THIS is Hatrack slang:
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
quote:Originally posted by advice for robots: I believe the word "squicky" is Hatrack slang, non? I've since incorporated it into my everyday vocabulary, but I think I heard it here first.
It's internet slang that's popular on Hatrack. I've seen it elsewhere, though only a couple of times.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
quote:I made Tom use a smiley. Maybe I will date him after all.
Tom always uses that smiley or this one to show that he's really smiling behind his total smackdown of your last argument.
But you can still date him if you want to.
Posted by dean (Member # 167) on :
But what constitutes a landmark?
And what is a squicky?
And I'm pretty sure that I was AT the first SoCal hatrack gathering, and there was no cake that said shindi. And Papa Moose was not at that one either, so I'm guessing you mean a later first socal hatrack gathering.
Posted by hugh57 (Member # 5527) on :
quote:Originally posted by mothertree: I mean, people are going to contradict you no matter what you post, right?
Absolutely not. Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
I must stand up and take credit for being the first to popularize "squicky" and "squicked out" on this forum, though It existed well before I infected Hatrack with it.
I got it from Television Without Pity back when it was still called Mighty Big TV. Imagine my shock when I learned that the origin dates back to early web fanfic-ers or something. I think it was supposed to be a sound effect, but came to mean the feeling of being grossed out.
I think. Anyway, once upon a time somebody blamed me for it, and I fessed up that I'd read it somewhere else and just started using it. It Is NOT Hatrack specific.
P.S. Don't ever visit a fanfic site and look for 'squick fic'. I'm told it would be a mistake.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I was using "squicky" in the eighties, Olivia. In my circle of friends at the time, "squicked out" was a common phrase.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by dean: And I'm pretty sure that I was AT the first SoCal hatrack gathering, and there was no cake that said shindi. And Papa Moose was not at that one either, so I'm guessing you mean a later first SoCal hatrack gathering.
You are correct; I was unclear. The cake was at the first Shinda (there are pictures). SoCal gatherings before the first Shinda . . . well, I'm not sure if they are non-Shindae, or should be grandfathered in.
I'm going to let someone else make that call. Posted by dean (Member # 167) on :
Anne Kate, slash, Richard Berg, his friend Brian, and several others were at the real first.
I think that that makes it a shinda.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: I was using "squicky" in the eighties, Olivia. :) In my circle of friends at the time, "squicked out" was a common phrase.
Tom managed to make it sound like he was a twenty-something revolutionary living in Prague during the 80s, and "squicked out" was on the lips of anyone who mattered. When in fact he was a preteen/teenager just like I was. :D
I don't know why I made that observation other than that it's almost quitting time.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: fora
Fori, no? Isn't it second declention neuter? Latin speakers - please tell.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: fora
Fori, no? Isn't it second declention neuter? Latin speakers - please tell.
Posted by MidnightBlue (Member # 6146) on :
huh? Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
Oh, I know it was around a long time. I remember having to tell people that it wasn't coined by me, after someone said it was. Which was just silly. I can't remember now who it was, but I think it may have been Pat, or maybe Belle, who claimed I'd coined it in one of the old threads along the lines of this one.
I had to say it wasn't my invention, though I was known for making it common here. "Uberwench" was mine, though no one uses that one anymore. *giggle*
Posted by genius00345 (Member # 8206) on :
EDIT: Here's another backup reference...both nominative and accusative nouns ending in -um have plurals ending in -a.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Fori, no? Isn't it second declention neuter? Latin speakers - please tell.
If we were conversing in Latin, that might matter. Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Oh, don't encourage him. You know he'll want to. Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: If we were conversing in Latin
Oh, but we are.
Posted by Epictetus (Member # 6235) on :
So here's a question that I'm still curious about, what is a landmark thread? I've kindof gleaned a good idea of what they are from reading them, enough to write one in the very distant future, but a couple of people asked earlier.
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
quote:Originally posted by dean: But what constitutes a landmark?
And what is a squicky?
And I'm pretty sure that I was AT the first SoCal hatrack gathering, and there was no cake that said shindi. And Papa Moose was not at that one either, so I'm guessing you mean a later first socal hatrack gathering.
Yep, yep, it was dean, perfectgentleman, this newbie called Slash the Berzerker, Richard Berg, Brian Worth, sarfa, Jacob Porter and myself. That was the first hatrack gathering ever! We called them hatrack picnics in those days. We had a blast!
Squicky means gross or icky in a TMI way. Also has connotations of luUuUuUuv, at least to my mind.
A landmark is anything that someone calls a landmark, I think, but it usually autobiographical. I love landmarks!
To clarify, they're usually long posts when people reach a multiple of 1000 posts, but can be at other landmarks in their lives, or other numbers of posts, or whenever they feel like it. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Squicky means gross or icky in a TMI way. Also has connotations of luUuUuUuv, at least to my mind.
What is "TMI" and "luUuUuUuv"?
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Oh, but we are.
Y'all are, but we aren't. Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
[edit]I was going to say "Thick" but I thought twice.[/edit]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
--I--
Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
Wow, that was unexpected.
I didn't mean to upset you, mack.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
TMI =Too Much Information. Th eother might be a weird take on 'luv' but I really have no clue.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:Tom managed to make it sound like he was a twenty-something revolutionary living in Prague during the 80s, and "squicked out" was on the lips of anyone who mattered.
This is a very well-written sentence. It paints quite a picture.
In which TomD fits perfectly. Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
"Fori, no? Isn't it second declention neuter? Latin speakers - please tell. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, but the plural of neuter nouns ends in -a, at least in nominative and accusative. cf. curriculum/curricula
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I meant it as slang!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Suuuure ya did. *pat pat*
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Oh, so it's masculine that ends in "i", I gather?
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:Squicky means gross or icky in a TMI way. Also has connotations of luUuUuUuv, at least to my mind.
What is "TMI" and "luUuUuUuv"?
TMI = Too Much Information, usually used to warn a poster that they are giving more sensitive personal information than their listeners actually care to hear.
LuUuUuUuv = of or related to human mating behavior or rituals
Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
I totally got flipped off by Mack!
I'm going to remember this forever.
*hits the print button*
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Oh, and we people forgot "asplode", though I never quite got the true meanings.
Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
"Asplode" is from homestarrunner.com, the coolest website ever. Specifically the Strong Bad Email where he's making up cool games. The word was pulled from the term "You're Head Asplode!" The term was used when the Strong Bad character killed you.
Since a lot of the oldies here at Hatrack check HomestarRunner.com, the verbage finds it's way here.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
It comes from a video game on H*R where, when you lose, your are told "Your Head A-Splode".
Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
*weirded out*
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
'rack hag:
An ornery old crone who trades in her broomstick for a keyboard and rides the threads 24x7, turning everybody into toadies or trolls.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Admit it -- you just made that up on the spot.
Posted by Pat (Member # 879) on :
--l-- was not mack's invention.
Just sayin.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm fully aware of that.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Look! It's a flower!
Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
^^^ I got the joke! I got the joke!^^^
Posted by Pat (Member # 879) on :
quote:Originally posted by mackillian: I'm fully aware of that.
I know, I know... you're late on your bill, by the way....
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
PAT! *glomps*
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Thanks, kat. Thanks for noticin.'
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Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
But the meaning is still obscure. Does it mean "explode"?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I haven't received a notice.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*notices*
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
As a reply to your question about masculine ending in -i, check that link above. It's got the whole table of Latin endings.
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