49/agnostic (but really finding myself wondering if I should convert to apatheism - seems like a better description for agnostics who don't become Unitarians.)
*salutes Chris*
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
You know, Angiomorphism, it would be much more entertaining if you were a Strong Bad Atheist.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
29 (in a few days, anyway.)/LDS
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
25/ nothing, really.
Suffice is to say that I believe in a power greater than myself, but I have a keen dislike of organized religion.
Posted by NinjaBirdman (Member # 7114) on :
20/agnostic
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
37 / United Methodist
Posted by Angiomorphism (Member # 8184) on :
quote:Originally posted by Noemon: You know, Angiomorphism, it would be much more entertaining if you were a Strong Bad Atheist.
its only a matter of time before homestarrunner becomes a religion, and i will join when it does, promise Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
32/LDS
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
31/Jehovah's Witness
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
23/LDS
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
18/LDS. I also don't like anyone who doesn't live in Utah.
Posted by Boon (Member # 4646) on :
29/Protestant, raised United Methodist, most recently First Baptist, but haven't been to church in about 3 years.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Wow. You're young! (That was to Taalcon, but now it goes to Boon and Mr. Squicky too.)
26/LDS
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Pfffffff.
Posted by Boon (Member # 4646) on :
Thank you, I think. Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
pssst, Narnia, I might not have been completely honest about some of the stuff I answered (For example, I don't like anyone, period, whether they live in Utah or not.), although if Boon's considered young, I definitely meet the cut-off too.
[ July 14, 2005, 10:40 PM: Message edited by: MrSquicky ]
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
27/LDS
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
Approaching middle age but nowhere NEAR old/LDS
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
23/ (Atheist/Agnostic/Non-religious) depending on the day.
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
23/Jewish
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
22/LDS
And I'll answer for KetchupPrinceConsort (25/LDS) and Ketchup Princess (almost 16 months/LDS "child of record".) Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
34/Protestant Christian - Covenant Theology/Reformed Doctrine if you want to get technical
Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
18/Agnostic
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
27 - None
Posted by Jhai (Member # 5633) on :
20 & agnostic
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
25/Atheist
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote:Ketchup Princess (almost 16 months/LDS "child of record")
I knew this place was crawling with young Mormons!
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
25, and I like the way Noemon said it: "Nothing you could put a name to. "
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
This is a placeholder for me to know where my tallying stopped. Right now LDS and agnostic/atheist/undecided are about tied. I'll do the numbers and post them here, then when the night shift has a chance to give their input, I'll finalize tomorrow sometime.
Oh yeah, I took it upon myself to put everyone's vote into Excel, cause I'm bored. And a nerd.
[EDIT] Right now it's about 29% young mormon and 32% agnostic/atheist/undecided. 29 and under being young. I'll give the full breakdown tomorrow when things slow down.
[ July 14, 2005, 06:42 PM: Message edited by: El JT de Spang ]
Posted by PUNJABEE (Member # 7359) on :
28/Jehovah's Witness
Posted by theCrowsWife (Member # 8302) on :
24/Non-denominational/Lutheran hybrid
Posted by Liz B (Member # 8238) on :
31/ United Methodist (future preacher's wife . . should be interesting)
Posted by PUNJABEE (Member # 7359) on :
28/Jehovah's Witness
Posted by Liz B (Member # 8238) on :
31/ United Methodist (future preacher's wife . . should be interesting)
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
18/Agnostic but leaning towards either Judasism and LDS (I don't drink, smoke or even drink coffee)
Only when I have faith without blushing or second geussing myself will I choose a religion to call my own.
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
21/Raised Roman Catholic, now leaning toward Gnosticism
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
21/Raised Roman Catholic, now leaning toward Gnosticism
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
21/Raised Roman Catholic, now leaning toward Gnosticism
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
24/LDS
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
26, and if there's any Strong Bad Atheists on this forum, I'm one of them.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Looks like Hatrack is kinda like the way I like to describe Salt Lake City - everyone is either Mormon or trying very hard to prove they're not. Posted by Chaz_King (Member # 3184) on :
26 / Christian... I go to this church Fellowship Bible Church North in Dallas
Posted by Icec0o1 (Member # 8157) on :
21/Atheist
"(raised catholic, never really bought it, discovered rationalism)" Hehe that's pretty funny, Angiomorphism. Pretty much the same here.
Posted by Icec0o1 (Member # 8157) on :
21/Atheist
"(raised catholic, never really bought it, discovered rationalism)" Hehe that's pretty funny, Angiomorphism. Pretty much the same here.
Posted by Chaz_King (Member # 3184) on :
EDIT: Server must have gotten hammered, I checked the page twice on another browser to see if it had gotten the post to go through =P oh well. Double posts are always fun.
[ July 15, 2005, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: Chaz_King ]
Posted by Icec0o1 (Member # 8157) on :
21/Atheist
"(raised catholic, never really bought it, discovered rationalism)" Hehe that's pretty funny, Angiomorphism. Pretty much the same here.
Posted by Icec0o1 (Member # 8157) on :
21/Atheist
"(raised catholic, never really bought it, discovered rationalism)" Hehe that's pretty funny, Angiomorphism. Pretty much the same here.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
When you say Gnosticism, what do you mean exactly? I mean, I've studied the early Christian movement, and read The Apocryphon of John and all that, but I'm curious what being a practicing gnostic means.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
44/Christian (I also attend a Bible Church)
(and probably the only one in my age group on this forum who will even bother to post in this silly thread)
(this forum is acting very freaky and won't let me post!!!)
Posted by Icec0o1 (Member # 8157) on :
21/Atheist
"(raised catholic, never really bought it, discovered rationalism)" Hehe that's pretty funny, Angiomorphism. Pretty much the same here.
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Hey, it's not silly. We're doing serious statistic here, thank you very much. Posted by Liz B (Member # 8238) on :
31/ United Methodist (future preacher's wife . . should be interesting)
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
37/Non-denominational Christian
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
Farmgirl, I am very much in your "age group" I'm just not as open to exactly what that is...
Especially with all these kids who are younger than some of my children hanging around in here...
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
45/(non-onanist)
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
19/Atheist-but-it's-more-complicated-than-that.
Posted by Moonshine (Member # 7893) on :
17/LDS
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:45/(non-onanist)
Posted by Alcon (Member # 6645) on :
18 (19 in exactly a week) / Atheist, very anti-organized religion.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
26/heathen
Posted by Dante (Member # 1106) on :
31/spiritual but very anti-unorganized religion
Posted by King's Man (Member # 8147) on :
19/southern baptist
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote:Originally posted by Annie: Looks like Hatrack is kinda like the way I like to describe Salt Lake City - everyone is either Mormon or trying very hard to prove they're not.
Annie, we were asked to respond to a poll. How are those of us who were raised in and/or practice another religion trying very hard to prove we're not Mormon?
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
41/ Weak Atheist
"You know, Angiomorphism, it would be much more entertaining if you were a Strong Bad Atheist."
Over on alt.atheism that would be a BAAWA Knight.
(Bad A**ed Atheist With Attitude) I think KoM qualifies.
Posted by Choobak (Member # 7083) on :
26 the 16th/ historicly catholic, but free of the cult : i practice my own idea of the religion.
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
gnostic me thinks means you may think there could be a god but unsure, preferring to find a rational explanation whenever in a crutch.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
24/Some kind of gay-loving, liberal christian (probably leaning towards Methodist or, maybe, UCC)
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
24 / No particular label.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I am 31 and Jewish. 31 seems to be a particularly popular age in this thread, neh?
quote:Originally posted by Liz B: 31/ United Methodist (future preacher's wife . . should be interesting)
But dkw is already married!
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Sid, nah, that's not Gnosticism.
Javert, I am curious though--when you say that you're leaning toward Gnosticism, what do you mean exactly? I mean, I've studied early Christian movements, and have read the Apocryphon of John and all that, but what does it mean to be a Gnostic now, in the 21st century?
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Sid, I think you're thinking "agnostic," which is different from "Gnostic."
Oh, and I'm 33, United Methodist.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
15 / New-Orthodox-Jewish who prays in partly Karlibach tunes, belives in materialism and refuses to accept half of what classical Orthodoxy thinks of God's purpose and power in the world. I also fail to recognise the need for Jewish zeal as I only refer to Talmudic stories of it as things to learn from, just like I follow the RAMBAM's opinion on the opening of Genesis. But that's irrelevant.
15 / Jewish-raised, becoming a pluralistic materialist.
Posted by The Silverblue Sun (Member # 1630) on :
33 / Norse Christian Jedi
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
23/Sexy.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
41/male- I mean "14/female!" What? Oh, wrong question.
27/Taoist
--Enigmatic
Posted by ReikoDemosthenes (Member # 6218) on :
20/Christian, with Mennonite background
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
22/LDS
(There are some crazy multiple posts in this thread...is Hatrack freaking out?)
Posted by human_2.0 (Member # 6006) on :
31/LDS
Posted by Rappin' Ronnie Reagan (Member # 5626) on :
19/atheist
Posted by Fishtail (Member # 3900) on :
mid-30s/thinking Catholic. (Dag is my hero)
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
22/Roman Catholic
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
23/Agnostic
Posted by Zamphyr (Member # 6213) on :
Not Young/Not Mormon
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
24/Agnostic
Posted by Pixie (Member # 4043) on :
18/practicing Roman Catholic with agnostic beliefs
Posted by Mike (Member # 55) on :
In the interests of valid statistics, whatever that means, I am 25 and atheist/apatheist/agnostic. Depending on how they're defined, I suppose.
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
20s/Conservative Jewish (former Orthodox, married to a Reform - we compromised)
Posted by citadel (Member # 8367) on :
24/LDS
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
21/atheist
Strider is 25/Atheist
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
25/Catholic
Posted by hugh57 (Member # 5527) on :
48/Agnostic fits as well as anything
Posted by Avadaru (Member # 3026) on :
18/Catholic
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
This is interesting. Last time I did a similar poll, the believers and non-believers were pretty easily matched, with about half of the believers being Mormon.
The results of this poll show (so far) the believers definitely outnumbering non-believers, with non-LDS believers being about twice as many as LDS.
Hatrack is an ever-changing beast. Of course those who do or do not choose to respond play a part in that too.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
28/Bokononist-Congregationalist
-Bok
Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
23(is that it?)/LDS
(What's the tally so far, Kayla?)
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote: (There are some crazy multiple posts in this thread...is Hatrack freaking out?)
They're stuffing the ballot box, I tell you!
Posted by Promethius (Member # 2468) on :
22/Leaning very strongly towards protestant christianity but am hoping to get rid of some of my doubts
Posted by Troubadour (Member # 83) on :
30/apatheist (good term, Chris!)
Posted by Darth Ender (Member # 7694) on :
35 / Sith
Posted by Lupus (Member # 6516) on :
25/ United Methodist
Posted by ProverbialSunrise (Member # 7771) on :
Wow! I had no idea everyone was so old. I'm 15 and a Mennonite.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
ooh shush kid, we aren't old, you're still in diapers
/old and cynical
Posted by Miriya (Member # 7822) on :
quote:Wow! I had no idea everyone was so old.
quote:Not Young/Not Mormon
I'm with Zamphyr... also neither young nor mormon
Posted by Dread Pendragon (Member # 7239) on :
So, of the 95 people that have responded so far, only 10 are LDS under the age of 25.
No wonder steve was having such a hard time posting. Young Mormons are nearly 10% of the board! Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
You forgot the sexy and the Norse Christian Jedi.
And did you count all the Christians who didn't specify a church?
Posted by Tinros (Member # 8328) on :
wow, you are all old. I'm 17 and I'm technically Baptist, but it's more non'denominational. Bible being my final authority.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Probably ought to lump all the protestants together, I think we're a bigger group than is represented in Kayla's list.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Cripes, it's a whole statistical consolidation and everything. I'm not actually LDS, in case I'm being counted as one. That was a joke. I figured if we were going to do a a/s/r? thread, I needed to fit the stereotype that started it.
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
Joiner.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Quiet you. I'm trying to conform to the hypothetical Hatrack norm so that I'll get more hits on the Hatrackers I'd like to date thread. Also, I heard that those Mormons can marry like 10 girls and the girl I hooked up with over the 4th of July has a twin sister. Seriously, how freaking sweet would that be?
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
Pervert.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
I compiled everything too, because I got bored.
But, for those who are also bored, I made a colorful pie graph. Two actually, since the question was how many young Mormon hatrackers there were. I used 30 as the cutoff age, even though I don't consider 30 to be that old, because boards like this traditionally skew young.
Also, I should of course tell you that this is in no way statistically valid, since response was voluntary. I suspect it's fairly accurate, but who really knows.
Anyway, graphs and percentages here.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
LOL
35/Protestant
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Hey, they're not siamese twins. It's all good.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
You do realize those labels imply that Mormons aren't Christians, neh?
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Squicky, you can like the non-Utah people as long as you're okay with the knowledge that they aren't going to the special utah section of heaven
35, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
ElJay: "Annie, we were asked to respond to a poll. How are those of us who were raised in and/or practice another religion trying very hard to prove we're not Mormon? ------------------------------------------------------------------------"
I think the main thing is there is a disproportional representation of areligionists. And she's right, this does tend to be true of Salt Lake City and particularly the U of U. People who do practice another religion tend to do so very privately, which I think is fine. But the resistance against Mormonism is very obvious in every area of public life not directly controlled by the church.
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Squicky, I didn't count you.
Okay,
21 LDS 5 Jews 9 Catholic/Roman Catholics 2 Jehovah's Witnesses 1 7th Day Adventist 6 Methodists 1 Mennonite 1 Taoist 1 Southern Baptist 1 Sith 1 Congregationalist 1 Norse Christian Jedi 9 Non-denominational 1 Heathen 1 Gay-loving liberal Christian 1 Old non-LDS 1 Non-Onanist
And
37 Agnostic/Atheist
Sheesh.
Y'all can't wait till tomorrow when . . . hey, where's the post from the person who said they had it all in a spread sheet and would post it tomorrow?
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Yeah, I do. But the question was what percentage of hatrack do young mormons make up, and I didn't have room on the chart to write "Catholic, methodist, taoist, SDA, Jehovah's witness, Jewish, non denominational christian, congregationalist, mennonite, baptist, church of final atonement, and jedi".
A bigger complaint, especially from you, Rivka, is that I group the Jewish people under Christian (which, of course, you're most emphatically not).
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
I posted it, Kayla.
Didn't mean to step on your thread, but I really do enjoy stuff like this.
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Okay, I didn't count you last few people.
El Spang, thanks, you were the one who posted that!
Rivka, duh. You know they aren't. I mean, you can't post stuff on a board filled with young Mormons and expect to not be crucified. I mean, they eat babies! They aren't Christians. Sheesh. Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Wohoo! I loves me label for meself.
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Man, from the pie chart, it looks like not only do people become Republicans as they age, they also become Christian/other! Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Hey, only we can make those jokes about us!
I'm sort of kidding, but would you spout calumnies about Jews with equal levity? O_o
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Damn, now I'll have to convert!
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
But, yes, I would.
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
NOOOOOOO!
[edit]Darn your lightning fast connection![/edit]
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Well, let me qualify that. Only if they were as ridiculous as the non-christian/baby-eating thing.
Posted by Heffaji (Member # 3669) on :
21/Atheist Jew
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: Yeah, I do. But the question was what percentage of hatrack do young mormons make up, and I didn't have room on the chart to write "Catholic, methodist, taoist, SDA, Jehovah's witness, Jewish, non denominational christian, congregationalist, mennonite, baptist, church of final atonement, and jedi".
A bigger complaint, especially from you, Rivka, is that I group the Jewish people under Christian (which, of course, you're most emphatically not).
No, it was "Christian/Other." (I did roll my eyes, I confess. ) How about "Other Christians/Other Religious"? Or simply "Other Religious"?
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
Or simplify things even further and have two categories:
-Mormons -Gentiles
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Mormons and non-members?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Verily the Younger: Or simplify things even further and have two categories:
-Mormons -Gentiles
Considering that Mormons and Jews have two different, mutually exclusive, definitions of gentiles . . .
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Aren't Mormons gentiles? I mean, y'all aren't Jewish. Ya dine on swine, but it's nope to Coke and smoke. (Yes, yes, I know. Just making a point.)
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
Yes, but if we're just trying to determine who is a Mormon and who isn't, then it's the Mormon definition that is immediately relatable to the search. Right?
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
20/LDS.
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
36/Atheist. Former United Methodist.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
It would be, if anyone but Mormons (and those closely associated with them) thought that gentile meant non-Mormon. In our culture, when you say gentile, you mean non-jew.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
Yes, but in a search for Mormons, then the use of the word "Gentile" implies non-Mormons. No one who understands that the word has a usage in Mormon terminology would be confused by what was meant. "Why do they only have slots for Mormons and non-Jews?" It's the explicit use of "Mormon" in the search itself that lends the context that would lead us to infer that by "Gentile" is meant, in this case, "non-Mormon". Right?
. . .
Right?
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
Give up.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
*gives up*
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
Quitter.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Nope, but it's cute when you Mormons are unintentionally disrespectful.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
"You Mormons"?
Apparently I've been baptized without my knowledge. This will be an interesting experience. I've never been a Christian before. . . .
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
Pagan.
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
25/LDS
Yeah, I'm slow. Go away.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
Those are the choices now? One is either Christian or Pagan? I know a Jew or two who might take exception to that.
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
Slug. (Ah, forget it, I'm going to bed.)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*thwaps eslaine*
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
Ouch!
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
My, I do feel young.
15/ (I like it too) Nothing you could put a name to.
I'm trying to come up with a witty comeback on the 15 being in diapers.
All I've gotten is that while you might say I am now, you guys might be soon. ^_^ (Meant to be in good fun.)
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
I'm disappointed to find that I'm the only non-onanist. They promised me when I joined that there would always be somebody there for me...
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by eslaine: Ouch!
I was just following directions!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I heard a Jewish person called a "Gentile" by a Mormon once. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I did the opposite, many many years ago. And was very confused by the denial.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I just thought it was hilarious, because they had absolutely no idea what they were saying. (BTW, Mormons distinguish between "Jews" and "Gentiles" when discussing non-members as groups. At least, we should, according to our theology.)
[ July 15, 2005, 03:07 AM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by Bean Counter (Member # 6001) on :
NA/Undecided
BC
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
48/started out in United Methodist Sunday School, then attended First Baptist Sunday School, batpized LDS, attended Mennonite Brethren university, currently not practicing any religion. Oh, and my great-grandfather was a Southern Baptist minister. My relationship with religion and spirituality is very complicated.
EDIT: "batpized" It was really late when I wrote this last night. You all know what I meant.
[ July 15, 2005, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: littlemissattitude ]
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
21/ baptized Christian, raised Catholic, now pretty much agnostic. Never was a fan of organized religion. But I have an ever increasing interest in some sort of spirituality.
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
47/LDS
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*avoids temptation to quote The Muppet Movie*
*with much difficulty*
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
If I believe in Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Ares, Aphrodite and the rest of those clan, how would I be called? (Hypothetically speaking.)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Probably pagan. Or if you prefer, a polytheist or pantheist.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
But no specific name for the Grecko-Roman religion?
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
quote:Originally posted by skillery: I'm disappointed to find that I'm the only non-onanist. They promised me when I joined that there would always be somebody there for me...
When you're an onanist, there always *is* somebody there for you...
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: I'm disappointed to find that I'm the only non-onanist.
I'm sure there are othe... othe... OTHE... AH! AH! AH! AAAHHH! *Orgasm* - sorry, I'm sure there are other people here who don't masturbate.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kayla: Man, from the pie chart, it looks like not only do people become Republicans as they age, they also become Christian/other!
::runs away very very fast::
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
*beams proudly at Jon Boy*
Posted by MattB (Member # 1116) on :
25. Climbing back up the Mormon tree. Not that I really fell from it, but still.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Or, for the edification of those who don't have a subscription, try here.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Katie: What, because I said "all y'all's"?
Noemon: Oops. I forgot about that. I fixed the link.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Jon Boy: Yep. Does my heart good, that does. I'm right proud of you, li'l brother. </Texan>
Noemon: No way! It's in the dictionary! I'll stop thinking it's weird now.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Maybe I shouldn't mention that I was saying it facetiously.
Also, I think it's weird that they included that definition, especially since I don't think it's entirely accurate.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I figured you were just getting into character.
Posted by whiskysunrise (Member # 6819) on :
26/LDS
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
38/guilty-about-being-agnostic.
And, NOT getting Republican as I grow older!!
(Though I have met some cute Republicans...)
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
quote:Originally posted by katharina: I figured you were just getting into character.
Yup. I was doing it so well that I didn't even realize I was doing it. Yeah, that's the ticket. Posted by fiazko (Member # 5812) on :
26/Christian
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I can't believe M-W has that as one of the definitions of "gentile." o_O
I am not one who uses the term "gentile" when referring to people who are not LDS. I didn't know the practice had made it to the ears of M-W.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
See, I always thought it meant "not of the house of Israel." It baffles me that a Mormon would think of a Jew as a Gentile.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
30/lapsed-baptist.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Jon Boy, same here. Well, now that I think of it, the BoM says repeatedly that those of the house of Israel that reject Christ will not be counted part of the house of Israel anymore. While those that do accept Him will be adopted in.
Nevertheless, *I* do not use the term "Gentile" that way.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
31/agnostic
space opera
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Steven, don't I remember that (at least a couple of years ago) you considered yourself Taoist?
Posted by Moonshine (Member # 7893) on :
I've never used the word "gentile" in a normal conversation and only heard the word used in church...
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Yeah, I pretty much only utter "Gentile" when I am reading the scriptures aloud....
Posted by Chris Kidd (Member # 2646) on :
29/LDS
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
plaid -- no way -- you're 38? I would have guessed you much younger than that, even though I have met you! Must be that good country livin' *grin*
FG
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
27/agnostic, and also surprised that plaid is 38.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
Why, Noemon? If you don't mind me asking?
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
23/atheist.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Sorry to bring up something that was posted way back on page 2, but was just wondering if Annie was going to answer ElJay's question:
quote:quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Annie: Looks like Hatrack is kinda like the way I like to describe Salt Lake City - everyone is either Mormon or trying very hard to prove they're not. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Annie, we were asked to respond to a poll. How are those of us who were raised in and/or practice another religion trying very hard to prove we're not Mormon?
Because I'm curious where that comment of Annie's came from too.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
IMO, everything after the em dash was describing Salt Lake City, not Hatrack. Dunno if that makes it any clearer.
Posted by Coccinelle (Member # 5832) on :
28/LDS
Posted by dabbler (Member # 6443) on :
25/agnostic
Posted by The Wiggin (Member # 5020) on :
20/Byzantine Catholic
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
quote:Because I'm curious where that comment of Annie's came from too.
me too.
Posted by Puppy (Member # 6721) on :
27/Mormon
What do the statistics look like so far?
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
I'm updating right now.
If only I can remember where I left off.
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
38/athiest
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Belle, I'm glad you brought it back up, I was considering if I wanted an answer badly enough to bump it myself.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
I don't know why it struck me as such an odd statement, but it did.
For some reason I find it insulting. And I don't think Annie meant to be offensive on purpose, maybe I'm just being too sensitive.
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
Yep, 38, and I've got LOTS of grey hair to show for it. :sigh:
Posted by Choobak (Member # 7083) on :
I've just 26 *sigh* and some white hairs... *big sigh*
Posted by ShadowPuppet (Member # 8239) on :
17/undetermined
I believe there's something out there bigger than us
but I don't think it likes me very much
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
I have you beat, Choobak. I'm...
20/some kind of protestant Christian--you may call me Methodist, if you like...
...and I have some white hairs.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
33
I am a former Catholic, and I label myself agnostic. I have had a continuous interest in the spiritual, though, and am trying to find my way and figure out exactly what I believe.
I am not entirely familiar with the term apatheist, and would appreciate some clarification on it.
Politically, I was raised in a very conservative family and community. In my teens and early twenties, I because substantially more liberal. In my late twenties, I found myself becoming more conservative. I now seem to be more liberal by comparison, but I feel like it is not I who have changed, but the rest of the country--or more particularly, the Republican party. So I guess I'm agnostic when it comes to politics as well, though my sympathies lean more heavily Democrat at the moment than they have in years.
Posted by Alucard... (Member # 4924) on :
My name is Shane, and I am 34.
I was born Roman Catholic, and I am now a Jedi Knight of Columbus, which allows me to bring my light saber to Church...
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
I'm picturing a statue of Yoda in a fez holding a child in his arms in front of the clubhouse, Alucard. Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
15/ born Jewish (not sure whether I believe in the existence of G-d or not, though)
Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :
35/United Methodist
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Bob (the lawyer), you are so young! It's funny how I read people's comments and get a gist of their personalities online...I tend to assume that smart and articulate people between the ages of 18-25 are older than they are. I suppose it's because they are smart and articulate. Am I perpetuating a gross stereotype of the 18-25 age group (when I'm only 26 myself)? Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
Yes Narnia, you're evil.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Well. That settles that then.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Narnia. The new Evil.
Posted by calaban (Member # 2516) on :
27/inactiveRM drr... I mean LDS.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
15 / "Human". OR:
15 / Philosophy Student.
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
quote: Narnia. The new Evil.
Posted by Theaca (Member # 8325) on :
33/Roman Catholic
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
quote:Originally posted by eslaine:
quote: Narnia. The new Evil.
What? I can do evil!!
See? look, there's more!
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
18/ United Methodist
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
46/United Methodist hoping for a move toward even MORE liberal thinking within that denomination.
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
16/Christian (Non-denominational protestant)
--j_k
Posted by Hamson (Member # 7808) on :
15/Jewish
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Old /Jewish.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Bubbe? Is that you?
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
I'm not old enough to be your bubbe... Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jonathan Howard: 15 / New-Orthodox-Jewish who prays in partly Karlibach tunes
His name is Carlebach...
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
20/ Agnostic that leans towards belief in God. I guess I hope in God.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
I would like to state that even though my situation is similar to JaimeBenlevy, I agree with Die Tante. Belief follows in if you persuade yourself without fail to do the right deeds, belief will start settling in.
Happened to me half a year before my Bar-Mitzvah. (Ahem, I was said to have been a very good reader, God bless my great teacher, so if any of you in the States know of an - AHEM - sorry, an opening - let me know. )
Posted by Rico (Member # 7533) on :
20/no classification
I think most people would classify me as Agnostic but personally I don't believe that everyone can fit into a niche like that. I have my own set of beliefs uniquely shaped by my experiences and how I was raised.
That doesn't stop me from seeing the beauty in some religions... though it does stop me from being able to get seriously involved in them.
Posted by ChaosTheory (Member # 7069) on :
14/Episcopal
Posted by SoberTillNoon (Member # 6170) on :
I am 18 and I am a Roman Catholic.
Posted by Exploding Monkey (Member # 7612) on :
32 - agnositc
Posted by arevoj (Member # 7347) on :
39 / Quaker
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
Rico, I'm sure many of us would love to know your beliefs if you'd care to share them. Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Old enough to know better.
Posted by Beanny (Member # 7109) on :
17 / Jewish
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
quote:Originally posted by Amanecer: Agnostic that leans towards belief in God. I guess I hope in God.
Well said!
Posted by socal_chic (Member # 7803) on :
17 / LDS
Posted by Gryphonesse (Member # 6651) on :
interesting thread!!
33 Raised Roman Catholic - I still go to Ash Wednesday every year - I consider it the "Sinner's Mass". Otherwise, I don't go to church anymore. Spent most of my life in Catholic School, attended Catholic college. I will ALWAYS be Catholic on some level, even if I refer to myself now as a "recovering Catholic". I've actually found Wicca to be quite interesting, but I think that my "religion" as it were is a jumble of the ideas and guildelines that FEEL right. I think we are all born with a "Moral Compass" (with a few notable exceptions) and even from a young age we know "Right" from "Wrong". I go by this more than anything else, becuase it transcends religion and isn't exclusionary. I absolutely REFUSE to believe that someone who lives their life right and well, does well by their famliy friends and community and always tries their hardest to to what is good and true would NOT receive some kind of eternal reward- heaven, reincarnation, whatever. I flat out will not accept that good people go to hell just becuase they don't believe the same thing I do in exactly the same manner. I know too many hypocrites inside the church, and in favor with the church, to believe that.
Sorry - didn't mean to rant!!
Posted by Wendybird (Member # 84) on :
Well if we're still counting... 32/LDS
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
As long as the thread's on the first page and getting new responses, we're still counting.
Posted by Liz B (Member # 8238) on :
quote:United Methodist hoping for a move toward even MORE liberal thinking within that denomination
Whooohooo! Go our team!
On a different note, I loved what Tante said about action leading to belief. My southern Baptist grammy told my aunt when she was a teenager that you don't wait till you feel like praying to pray. You just pray.
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
22/Evangelical Christian (Pentecostal, if you want to get that specific)
Posted by Lanfear (Member # 7776) on :
15/ Mormon
Posted by Rico (Member # 7533) on :
KarlEd:
Sure I'd be glad to explain a bit.
I was born and raised Catholic, my family was never really very devout in the way that we only went to mass on special occasions but most of my family was strong on religion. I started to question my faith in the religion when my father wanted us to attend church with him regularly, it was then that I started to notice that the more I attended mass the less I believed in it. I started to feel like a robot, only attending mass because that's what you're "suppossed to do". I started to look around me every mass after that and I saw more people like me, staring at the floor, looking bored and annoyed... Didn't exactly look like they wanted to be there and I could understand why.
From then on I slowly started to question what I was taught to be absolute truth. Experiences from my early childhood and teenage years provided the push required for me to question the possibility of God actually being there. I want God to exist but I just can't convince myself that he does. A lot of my current beliefs conflict with each other at the moment because I am still slowly questioning what I was taught. For example, every single bone on my body wants to believe that there's a Heaven out there, I'd want my mother to be in no other place than that and I see her as being there, always watching over me... But, that would mean there has to be a god out there who created heaven, which goes against one of my core beliefs. So I end up believing in Heaven but not in God... It's a rather strange mix and I have many other examples but somehow it still feels right to me at the moment.
Sorry for the long post, I just didn't want to leave that unanswered Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
18/Roman Catholic Apostolic although more of an independent practitioner.
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
22/ I guess you could call me agnostic. I think that IF god is out there, he's got a whole universe to take care of, and doesn't care about us on this one tiny planet.
Ni!
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: As long as the thread's on the first page and getting new responses, we're still counting.
So, any intermediate results then? Posted by Will B (Member # 7931) on :
Cthulhu asked me to post this for him:
200,000,000/self-worship
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Whatever, Will B
Posted by Fusiachi (Member # 7376) on :
19/Possibly United Methodist, by virtue being the preacher's son.
At this point, I'd like to believe in God, and in Christ as well. Working on it.
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
20/liberal christian who trusts common sense before strange men in robes
Posted by DavidGill (Member # 8166) on :
slithy/purple
Posted by Humean316 (Member # 8175) on :
25/atheist
Posted by JaneX (Member # 2026) on :
19/Practicing Jew with (a) beliefs leaning toward agnostic and (b) doubts about religion in general.
~Jane~
Posted by Theaca (Member # 8325) on :
I'm trying to figure out what Alt means by "Roman Catholic Apostolic". I see several non-Roman Catholic religions when I search Google that contain the words Catholic and Apostolic. It looks like those groups don't believe in the Pope, or they have their own pope. I don't see the three words used together, though. Are you Roman Catholic, Alt? Or are you something else? Can you show me an online link for it?
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
I think she means apostate.
Posted by Dante (Member # 1106) on :
When I was on my LDS mission in Italy, I would not infrequently hear (and you've got to imagine this in your head with the exaggerated trilled "r"s and elongated consonants of a passionate Italian), "Io sono Cattolico...Apostolico...Romano!"
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
The Apostle's creed goes "I believe in one holy Catholic and Apostolic church", which, the way Sister Emily taught me, refers to the Catholic Church headed by the Pope in Rome. However, I've heard rumors that other people say these sames words, with a small "c" using catholic to mean universal.
I went on a team-up yesterday with the sister missionaries and spoke to a man who is Pentecostal. He was very interested in the speaking in tongues, specifically, and wanted to know what we thought about that. I read to him verse 7 from the Articles of Faith and bore my testimony about the gift of the Holy Spirit. He wanted to know why things would have changed since then. He made an appiontment for us to go back. He was very impressed by the missionaries, I think. The Elders had visited him before, too.
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
I have no idea why I posted that here. Probably because I'm still half asleep and rambling?
But I'd be interested to hear the breakdown so far, too, if anyone's still keeping tally, by age and by religion, both separately and combined.
Posted by Epictetus (Member # 6235) on :
20/Raised LDS, leaning more toward Buddhism at this juncture
Posted by Sharaith (Member # 8385) on :
14 / Jewish (though leaning more towards Atheism at the moment... )
Posted by Liz B (Member # 8238) on :
quote: However, I've heard rumors that other people say these sames words, with a small "c" using catholic to mean universal.
In the United Methodist hymnal the Apostle's Creed does refer to the "catholic" church but not the "catholic and apostolic" church. And yes, it's small c catholic (there's even an asterisk and footnote so people don't get confused ).
-lb
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:Man, from the pie chart, it looks like not only do people become Republicans as they age, they also become Christian/other!
What a strange conclusion considering that Bob Scopatz, Tatiana and I are possibley the three oldest people here and are all decidedly non-republican.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Here's the thread were the results from all this polling are. I still have the excel file somewhere on my work computer with everyone's age, if anyone's really curious.
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
quote: quote:Originally posted by Tante Shvester:
quote:Originally posted by JaimeBenlevy: 15/ born Jewish (not sure whether I believe in the existence of G-d or not, though)
Belief is not necessary or required. All that is necessary is to do the right thing, and to behave as if there is a G'd. I went through the same thing at your age, and with practicing the mitzvos, belief sort of takes care of itself.
I would disagree with that. I thing questioning and seeking (while still practicing, preferably) are essential as well.
There are many wonderful books that can help. And these days, a multitude of online sources, like Aish.com and torah.org. [Smile]
This is Jaime, from the first post that was quoted here. I think I missed those posts back then so I'll respond to them now.
First of all, I don't believe in a God anymore. I won't go into much detail here, but I just think that a God is something people made up so we can feel like we're important in the universe and that there is a Higher Plan for each of us. Like how people used to think that the universe revolved around Earth (I hope that didn't offend anyone, it's just my opinion).
That said, I still believe in religion. I think religion is great and is important since it makes people happy and causes them to be better people. A very close friend of mine is a very observant Jew and is probably the nicest person I've ever met. My father is also pretty observant. But I still do my best to follow the person-to-person laws of Judaism, because regardless of whether there is a God or not, those are very important. I just don't follow the laws that are for God, like keeping kosher, praying every day, etc.
I don't really know why I'm posting this in a thread about ages Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
19/ and I would guess you would have to say agnostic.
Posted by Cashew (Member # 6023) on :
53/LDS
Posted by Epictetus (Member # 6235) on :
21/Buddhist.
I've also been described as a Freelance Monotheist
Posted by sydneybristow (Member # 9198) on :
31/LDS
And not from Utah. Grew up near Detroit, attended a Lutheran elementary school for a while. When I was in the Army, I joined the LDS Church. It's been 12 years now.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Sydney, really? I'm 29, and I went on my mission to Detroit. Whence near Detroit?
[ March 10, 2006, 06:02 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
22/Shinto.
Just kidding, atheist.
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
21/Protestant.
-pH
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
12/Catholic-Christian
Happy *late* Birthsay pH!
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
JT, I am the congregationalist, but it should really be UCC. I come from the congregationalist stream of that larger denomination.
-Bok
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
25/Jewish
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jeesh: 12/Catholic-Christian
Happy *late* Birthsay pH!
Thanks. But it's not REALLY until Thursday.
But...if I hadn't been born two weeks late, I'd be 21 already.
-pH
Posted by cheiros do ender (Member # 8849) on :
16 and aiming to get baptised LDS.
Posted by Geekazoid99 (Member # 8254) on :
14/Jewish
Posted by Avatar300 (Member # 5108) on :
22/agnostic
Posted by Stan the man (Member # 6249) on :
I don't remember if I posted in this one or not. An' I'm not going to look through all the pages.
25 for another month, but my body feels like it's 50. Religion...I'm a something, I think. I used to be Catholic, but I dropped half the doctrine. I still believe in a higher being, but I can't deal with the Church anymore. I guess I will just say that I am a christian.
Posted by Maria (Member # 9209) on :
42/ agnostic
I'm really about 10% pagan, 10% taoist & 10% pantheist- with the rest undecided... so I guess you have to call me undecided/agnostic. I'm not sure what the ultimate nature of reality is: there are too many interesting religions to choose from, and too little hard data. So, I'm kinda sampling them, as the mood strikes me... and hanging on to the ideas that ring true for me. Posted by Boothby171 (Member # 807) on :
44 / Atheist
Posted by Nitasmile (Member # 8275) on :
37/ LDS since I was 16. Growing up went to a variety of churches, including Baptist, Presbyterian and Methodist.
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
Wow, topic back from the dead...
30/Catholic Heretic
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Still an atheist, but I'm 25 now.
Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
still a methodist....but now 26...
Posted by Nellie Bly (Member # 9129) on :
20/ Disciple of Christ (Sounds like a cult I know. Save your jokes for someone who hasnt heard them already)
Posted by Palliard (Member # 8109) on :
39/Drunk (as of today)
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
23/transcendentalist
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
22/Catholic
Posted by EarlNMeyer-Flask (Member # 1546) on :
27 / pervert... no really agnostic
This poll can't hardly be considered scientific since there is a selection bias towards people that are willing to respond.
Posted by katdog42 (Member # 4773) on :
23/ Catholic - I might have already posted this, but I doubt it.
Posted by airmanfour (Member # 6111) on :
20/not "Christianity," but closer than anything else. I do enjoy the Jewish heritagey things. Maybe both?
Posted by cheiros do ender (Member # 8849) on :
Nitasmile, did your family join with you when you were 16?
Posted by Infrared (Member # 9196) on :
23/Agnostic
Posted by aiua (Member # 7825) on :
16/ Agnostic
Posted by JLM (Member # 7800) on :
32/LDS
Posted by Tinros (Member # 8328) on :
WOW there are a lot more Jews on here than I thought!!! Posted by JennaDean (Member # 8816) on :
33/LDS
Hi Nita!
Posted by Irregardless (Member # 8529) on :
30 / Christian (churches of Christ)
Posted by Nitasmile (Member # 8275) on :
Here is a hello back to you Jenna!
Cheerois wrote: " Nitasmile, did your family join with you when you were 16?" We are pretty much a family of multiple faiths. One sis did. My mom was actually already LDS though I never knew that until I took the discussions. My dad is Hindu. When I joined, he said, "I wish you would consider the Hindu faith but show me what you believe by how you live." Another sis is Presbyterian (and now Baptist). A brother born a few years after I joined is LDS. Another sis is also LDS but currently questioning things and struggling to find out what she believes. Anyway, my feeling is that love in the family and trying to live what you believe is what matters the most. Anyway, sorry if I bored anyone. Posted by cheiros do ender (Member # 8849) on :
Unfortunately, I don't have an understanding family like yours. Posted by jamesbond007 (Member # 8513) on :
29
LDS but inactive because the girl I liked at the singles ward dissed me for another guy. And I don't have the heart to go anymore.
But, other than that I like reading about different religions including Raelians.
I also may try the church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster if I find it appealing.
Posted by jamesbond007 (Member # 8513) on :
Hehehehe!
Just found out:
Members of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Church are called Pastafarians.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
I thought for sure I'd already answered this. Can't find my answer anywhere. *shrugs*
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