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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
*avoids the obvious answer*
 

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Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
well first we need to define, "undebatable hatrackers"

Is it anyone with a screen name?
Is it someone who knows they are a jatraquero?
Is it someone ragingly incoherent
or someone overwhelmingly logical?
 

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Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
It's me, isn't it?
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
Yes.
 

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Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
Are you itching to get ANOTHER thread deleted,. Scott? oh wait. You're the type that could get every thread and post deleted for a year and not even notice.
 

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Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
Ooh, burn!
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
steven, not every thread is about you. I was seriously thinking Jon, we think to much alike. If you remember correctly, I did debate you.

...and I deleted that thread.
 

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Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
You're so vain.
You probably think this thread is about you.
 

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Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
*stabs Jon Boy*

That's for putting Carly Simon in my head!
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
I love regurgitated jokes.
 

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Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Since steven decided to poke his head up in another thread, I'll take another stab at this.

steven, why did you refuse to modify either your existing posts or even your posting style in future posts when it was pointed out how insulting you were being, yet once someone ridiculed you for those same posts you decided to delete them?
 

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Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
<---Missed it.

<---Not sad about that.
 

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Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
Are you holding to hold me to a higher standard, Dag? That would be pointless.
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
*thwap*

<-- doesn't miss
 

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Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Nope. I'm trying to hold you to the lowest possible standard, which, unfortunately, seems to be out of your reach.
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 

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I love regurgitated jokes.

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Nope. I'm trying to hold you to the lowest possible standard, which, unfortunately, seems to be out of your reach.

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[edit] There was a bunch of nonsense posted here, I've deleted it.
 

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Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Well that's good. I wasn't talking to you and I hate eavesdroppers.

Once you have one of them land on your foot, you won't forget it.
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 

 

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Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 

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I love regurgitated jokes.

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<---Missed it.

<---Not sad about that.

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Well, eslaine, not to be picky, but seems to me that means you just didn't see it. Sounds like you didn't really miss it at all.
 

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Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
Well...

Point taken.

*slinks away*
 

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Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 

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I love regurgitated jokes.

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It must be Fried-day. I just got a really disgusting visual of a giant bird nest. A stand-up comic was feeding her open-mouthed younglings regurgitated jokes.
 

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Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
You guys just aren't the Enders I thought you were.
 

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Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
The enemies' gate is across the hall, down to the left, and under the stairs.
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 

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hey scott, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. Happy?

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You're so vain.
You probably think this thread is about you.

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Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
More seriously, I've taught my kid to respond to folk who are incoherently viturperative by smiling, shrugging, and saying, "Well, I can't argue with THAT."

Sometimes the only way to win is not to play.
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
Tante, it was much funnier when I SAID IT THE FIRST TIME!

Jon's a joke stealer!
 

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Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
What? I never saw you post that.
 

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Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Maybe he deleted it...
 

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Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
He's just the sort of person that would do that.
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
It's from your own website! The joke starts in the second post from the bottom.
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
And I thought Stilton would be more intimidating. Not bright, but at least a little threating.


One out of three ain't bad, I guess, all things considered.
 

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Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
I'm a little sorry I followed that link. I have plenty of friends who've read Dr. Price's book. Of the lot of you, none have read the book, and none agree. Of the group of people I know who've read the book, nearly all agree with his conclusions.
 

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Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
There are two conclusions you can draw from that, steven. One is that Price's book is so compelling that those who read it cannot help but be convinced; the other is that those who already share a belief in his conclusions are more likely to read his book to have their beliefs reinforced. Neither conclusion actually speaks to the validity of his claims.
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
I wish I was Tom. Or at least have half of his logic.
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 

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I'm a little sorry I followed that link.

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Lets not forget the third option:

That most of us aren't going to give much of anything you say any type of serious consideration, based on your previous faulty logic and poor manners. At least not while you seem to not understand how poorly you behaved earlier, in other threads.


Harsh, but true...We don't suffer fools gladly.


Kwea
 

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Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
Tom--I was a 100% raw vegetarian when I read that book. Price's work shows that cooking food, while not the best thing you can do, isn't AUTOMATICALLY poisoning it (except for dairy foods, which were basically never cooked by any straight-tooth tribes). Not only that, I've had to face the fact that meat is not (when it's of good quality) the worst poison on the planet, necessarily. I wasn't particularly open to Price's pro-meat, cooked-is-almost-as-good-as-raw agenda. Nevertheless, I have had to open my mind in that regard.

Not only that, my best friend, a prety staunch vegetarian, had to admit that Price was right. He's no fool, himself. He went to grad school at Viriginia Tech, and knows shoddy research. His aunt, another highly intelligent person with a grad school diploma, also agrees with Price after reading the book. None of these people particularly were in line with Price's ideas before encountering the book.

All I have to say is this--every Guaymi Indian I met in Costa Rica had perfect teeth, excellent physical structure, and was very strong and flexible, and could work hard all day with no problem. However, plenty of people I grew up with had crooked teeth, flat cheekbones, and general poor health. The Guaymi are a lot healthier, on average, than the people I grew up around. They also have no access to refined sugar, refined grains, or any other processed foods, since they live a 3-hour hike through the virgin rain forest from the nearest DIRT road.
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
You're totally derailing my thread, steven.
 

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Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
So, what is it with sedimentation anyway? I mean, it's just more rock, right?
 

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Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I would be curious to learn how many people came to Price's work from the raw foods side, and how many "normal" eaters find his work revelatory. I wonder if it speaks more powerfully to the raw foods demographic.
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
According to this entry in Wikipedia, The word "sedimentation" is actually the settling of suspended particles. So, in that sense no, "sedimentaion" is not "just more rock," however "sediment" is just more rock. Jeez.
 

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Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
What is all this about sedimentation? Have I missed something?
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
eslaine and I are trying to get the thread back on subject.
 

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Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Give. It. Up.
 

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Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
What the crap is the sedimentation thing about?

(/off topic)
This is a reply to Tom's question--I am sorry to get off topic again. There are two main groups in Price's camp that I have seen--the Amish types, who grow most of their own food anyway, (my raw milk suppliers generally grow their own food, for the most part, and are Amish-like, but drive cars), and the regular dairy operators, who are into the raw milk aspect for obvious reasons (they are dairy owners). There are some LDS folks in the bunch, IIRC, but no more than you'd expect. None of these groups are raw-foody. The only raw-animal-foods eaters I know of are all huge liberals. Raw vegans, on the other hand, can be anything from totally conservative to totally granola, and everything in between.

(on topic/)
 

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Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 

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What the crap is the sedimentation thing about?

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