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Posted by RoyHobbs (Member # 7594) on :
 
Is it because he sings like he's an out-of-breath girly boy or is it out of pure envy because he gets more action than you?

"One pair of candy lips and your bubble gum tongue..."

WTF???
 
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Couldn't get tickets huh?
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
John Mayer is an incredible musician. He is an amazing guitar player, and plays "for real," not just in the studio.

Sorry to disappoint, but I am not jumping on the anti-John Mayer band wagon. I heard a live show of his before he hit the big time. He deserves all the fame, fortune, and all that goes along with it, that he has earned, and that he wants.
 
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
 
I dislike all the John Mayer I've heard (I just don't enjoy his music . . . nothing more than that), but I do really like his song "Comfortable" when sung by the Rice Philharmonics.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I think he's actually pretty good. He's no Dave Matthews in terms of guitar skills, songwriting, or in general sound, but I like much of what he sings.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 

 
Posted by camus (Member # 8052) on :
 
He was in a pretty funny skit on The Chappelle show, so I can't hate him. But I do like your description of the way he sings.
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
No, he is no Dave Matthews because he is not really a rocker. He is more of a blues-soul-folk singer-songwriter.

And he is one hell of a blues guitarist.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I like him a lot, actually.
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
I really like listening to him on cd's or the radio, there he doesn't bother me at all. But on the live clips I've seen of him (crossroads guitar fest, some other PBS special) watching his face was nearly painful, moreso than most violinists I know when they are really into it.
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
Basing an artists's skill and talent on what the radio decides to play leads to a very limited scope of most musicians' work.
 
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
 
Bleck. I hate that "Your body is a wonderland" song. Does that mean I lack a sex drive? If Mr. Opera sang that to me I'd be seriously creeped out.

space opera
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
I liked it.

Once.

When I was drugged.

And feverish.

>_<
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
'Icarus to have John Mayer's baby'

Film at 11.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
quote:
No, he is no Dave Matthews because he is not really a rocker. He is more of a blues-soul-folk singer-songwriter.

And he is one hell of a blues guitarist.
You've never heard Dave play blues music on the guitar? He's a lot better than John Mayer. Many of Dave's rhythms are South African folk inspired. Dave isn't really a rocker either, at least not by the standards set in the last...20 years or so. Dave is amped up folk. Just because he usually isn't as mellow as John Mayer doesn't make him that much more rock than folk/blues.

I put him in the same category as Dave Matthews because they belong there.
 
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
I would have Dave's baby, if I were so inclined, equipped, and invited.
 
Posted by RoyHobbs (Member # 7594) on :
 
Ummm... ewww
 
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
 
I like Jason Mraz better than John Mayer, though Jason's new cd is a bit strange.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
It's Dave! Let Beren have his baby if he wants.
 
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Thank you Lyrhawn. That's the first sensible thing I've heard all day.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I'll support anything that brings more Matthews into the world.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
And I'll support anything that takes John Mayer out of it. Maybe we can work together . . .
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
"He's no Dave Matthews in terms of guitar skills, songwriting, or in general sound, but I like much of what he sings."

I like Dave Matthews. He's no [fill in the blank with your favorite guitar player] in terms of guitar skills, songwriting, or in general sound, but I like much of what he sings."

I think a lot of people are "better" than John Mayer, mainly because I like them better. Really, though, I was just trying to defend the poor guy, because, though he may be playing certain publicity cards right now, he is a good musician.
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
I like a few of his songs, am indifferent to most of them, and really hate a few. Which puts him about par as far as musicians go in my favor.

I like the acoustic version of "Your Body is a Wonderland" but not the regular version. I like "No Such Thing." Can't stand "Daughters." And so on...
 
Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Icarus:
<blink> You think "No Such Thing" is mellow? I can just hear Karen Carpenter singing "I wanna scream at the top of my lungs!"

That said, I love the Carpenters. I don't think I've ever heard a voice that compare's with Karen's, and their stuff is just classic.

If you want to hear a really, really disturbing version of "Close to You", though, check this out.
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
As several people have said, it's foolish to judge any artist by what the radio plays. The singles are intended to appeal to the lowest common denominator, and usually aren't very good.

That said, I love acoustic guitar and anyone who plays good music on it. I think Mayer is a complete bad***, and is a much more skilled guitar player than Dave Matthews. I like Dave Matthews too, but they're totally different artists.

Put DMB songs next to John Mayer, they have almost nothing in common. John Mayer writes a lot of love songs, DMB writes a lot of altered-consciousness songs.

Before I really listened to John Mayer, I had a problem with the breathy vocals. But now, it's not that big a deal. I think he's a phenomenal songwriter/guitar player, and a good singer.
 
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
 
I loved Mayer's high school song. It was cool.

I didn't really like Your body is a wonderland. It made me feel icky while I was listening to it.

What really made me hate him was the phrase: Bubbly toes. WHAT THE HECK was that about?!

Huh?? It's gross. It's weird. I hate it.

And what's with all the comparing of Mayer and Matthews? It's like comparing a hamburger with an orange.

Sheesh. They're totally different.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Who? [Dont Know]
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
I don't hate him, but I hate the whiny no-talent poser boys who invariably cover his songs at talent shows.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
I actually have no idea what the man sounds like, but anyone who titles a song 'Your body is a wonderland' is a dork. [Smile]
 
Posted by Snarky (Member # 4406) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kojabu:
I like Jason Mraz better than John Mayer, though Jason's new cd is a bit strange.
Jason Mraz's new song is so completely self-referential that it makes me want to vomit. John Mayer's "No Such Thing" was pretty good, but I can't stand anything else.
 
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
 
quote:
I actually have no idea what the man sounds like, but anyone who titles a song 'Your body is a wonderland' is a dork.
YES! [ROFL] That's exactly it.
 
Posted by Goo Boy (Member # 7752) on :
 
quote:
You think "No Such Thing" is mellow?
Um, yeah.

(He say's he wants to scream, but he really isn't, you know. Just a little falsetto whine.)
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
Yeah, it's mellow. Seconded, thirded, whatever.
 
Posted by Speed (Member # 5162) on :
 
I didn't like John Mayer when I first heard him. A friend made me get his first album, and I listened to it a couple of times and was thoroughly unimpressed.

Later on I gave it another chance and ended up not hating it. By a couple more listens I became a fairly big fan. I've since bought his second album, and both of them are among my favorites.

I can see where the haters are coming from, but I'm no longer one.
 
Posted by CStroman (Member # 6872) on :
 
Uh...who's John Mayer?
 
Posted by dean (Member # 167) on :
 
quote:
What really made me hate him was the phrase: Bubbly toes. WHAT THE HECK was that about?!
Bubbly toes was Jack Johnson, for the record. I like Jack Johnson okay, but bubbly toes is a little weird. Fun, but, yeah, a tad weird.

*sings* If you would only listen, you might realize what you're missin'. You're missin' meeee....
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
"Bubbly toes"
I was just going to say that it was Jack "surfer Boy" Johnson.

I think people can get Jack Johnson, Ben Harper, and John Mayer confused at first listen.

And anyway, the world's best guitar player is upstairs in bed right now. He just turned nine.

Edit: Speed, I have some live John Mayer. Shoot me your address again. Well, let me see if I still have it.
 
Posted by Rico (Member # 7533) on :
 
I actually like a few songs by both John Mayer and Jack Johnson. No hate here!
 


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