I was thinking about some of the user personalities I've seen on Hatrack and started wondering if I could replace verbs or adjectives with user names instead. From that thought spawned the idea for this thread:
If a Hatrack username dictionary were made, what would it look like?
I'll start with a little example:
n.Tante Shvester - Someone who increases their post count at an incredible rate on a daily basis.
v.Shvester, Shvestering - The act of posting a lot on forums. Not to be confused with spammers, someone who shvesters manages to make good (although sometimes short)posts in large quantities; "That guy totally shvestered his way to 5000 posts."
I'm still a relative newcomer to the boards but Tante Shvester always sticks up as a cool poster for me
So, go ahead and add your own entries!
[ August 22, 2005, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Rico ]
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Hee hee.
v Dagonee - the act of defending one's arguments clearly, calmly and cleverly. "Joe dagoneed his point well." See also persuasive Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
I'm my own verb! Shazaam!
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
This is pretty cool.
vScopatz - to let fly a blinding series of the funnies. "Man, you totally Scopatzed that thread." See also embarrassment of riches.
PS: Totally agree with the above two, as well.
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
DO ME DO ME!!!
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Behave!
Well, OK.
Turganverb: to stridently call for attention by posting in all caps "DO ME DO ME!!!"
satisfied?
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
wait... nobody knows me well enough... well phooey
Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
YES!!!!!!! WHOOOO!!!!
I am so being Turgan when it comes to stuff like this.
i like it.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Enigmaticadj 1. Of or resembling an enigma; puzzling; "a professor's enigmatic grading system." 2. Not clear to the understanding; "I didn't grasp the meaning of that enigmatic comment until much later"
phoo! This game doesn't work so well for some of us.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
How true. How true.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
To AFR a thread means to kill it. Can also be applied to the forum in general.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
I'm currently writing one in MS-Word, who'd like it in his/her e-mail box?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Riconoun: an arbitrary rule that is supposedly meant to increase everyone's fun, but in actuality is synonymous with "kill-joy".
Posted by Rico (Member # 7533) on :
Wait, would that mean I AFRed my own thread?
Rule: BALEEEETED! To prevent thread from turning into a popularity contest. Sorry folks, we all know I'm the most popular here anyways
[ August 22, 2005, 01:08 PM: Message edited by: Rico ]
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Someone define me please, then.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Look! Another popularity contest!
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Where? Where?
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
Sassey - adj. simultaneously combining the maximum intelligence, fun, and compassion which can be contained in a given number of words.
Bridge - v. to shamelessly self-promote but be so good that no one cares (Conjugation: I bridge, You bridge, Chris bridges)
Mack - v. to flip someone off when they try to hug you ((Mack))
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: Look! Another popularity contest!
Mushroom - n. poster who criticizes popularity threads. See also "Ic".
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Bridge - v. to shamelessly self-promote but be so good that no one cares (Conjugation: I bridge, You bridge, Chris bridges)
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
From my dictionary:
quote:riv•ka•ing (rívkɑïŋ) v.i. to self-criticise for being a very frequent and bold conversationalist, e.g. “she was rivkaing herself”. [M #4859, rivka.]
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
*blink*
Either I've missed a whole bunch of self-criticizing posts or that's not really a defining feature of rivka.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Jonathan Howardnoun: anything incomprehesible, in any language. We were having a lively debate, and he suddenly blurted a Jonathan Howard. Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
There was one. But you've got to hold on to one thing.
And thanks for posting, by the way, I need to give you an entry. Someone define me dictionarily, please.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Thanks, Tante.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
How about
Rivka - v. The verbal destruction of a hotel in Dallas which has mistreated you.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Forum dictionaries have to spring naturally from forum usage.
It's cheating to go about inventing word for the sake of inventing words.
Here are some good words that have been used on the forum in natural conversation:
Squick: [verb] to create a feeling of disgust. Incest squicks me out.
Cedonym: [noun] an alternative name for a poster; commonly used when poster has a reputation for being decptive, malicious, or beligerent, and uses an alternative name to escape retribution from the mods or polite police. John used the cedonym 'kewlJ0n' to keep posting on Hatrack after being banned.
The Four Horsemen: [prop. noun] Sarcasm, Cynicism, ???, and TomDavidson. I can't remember the third horseman.
Jatraquero/a: [noun] A member of the www.hatrack.com forums. Commonly, 'Hatracker.'
To Be Real: [adj] describes a Jatraquero's state of being; if a jatraquero has met in real life, two other jatraqueros, he is said to 'be real.'
And so on.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
The third horseman was Fluff.
Posted by CStroman (Member # 6872) on :
I cringe to think what incarnation "Stroman" would be.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Thanks, Jon Boy.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Four Horsemen? What...?
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Yes. The Four Horsemen of the Hatrack Apocalypse.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Don't worry Jonathan, Tom hasn't gone by Horseman of the Hatrack Apocalypse since...oh, before you were born (seriously, it's just a reference to some ancient Hatrack history).
Posted by Sarcasm (Member # 4653) on :
Ancient history?
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Insofar as 3 or 4 years ago is ancient.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
One occurance doesn't make somebody's name a definition of that trait, JH. Particularly not when the trait isn't exactly flattering.
As far as giving me an entry, I would prefer you didn't.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
But I need to know what they did, and why the four joined to form that {union? Organisation? Social Group of Conspirators?} so I can mark it in my entry... I'm forming the dictionary - you just keep posting ideas.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:To Be Real: [adj] describes a Jatraquero's state of being; if a jatraquero has met in real life, two other jatraqueros, he is said to 'be real.'
This definition neglects to mention that if one wishes to become Real, one must meet two other jatraqueros who are already Real.
Posted by Sarcasm (Member # 4653) on :
I registered this name primarily to tease a guy named Nick, who constantly missed the sarcasm in various people's posts. He was a good guy and took it well, though. What ever happened to him?
Anyway, my Australian look-alike, Ethics Gradient, registered the name Cynicism to be my accomplice in crime. Then we decided to add two more and become the Horseman of the Hatrack Apocalypse. We launched a very successful recruiting campaign that resulted in the addition of Fluff and TomDavidson to our ranks.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Gee, I always wondered how you came up with a name like "Sarcasm."
Didn't you do a whole thread about the four horsemen? I'm afraid I never opened it. :(
Posted by Sarcasm (Member # 4653) on :
Yeah Jon Boy, in internet fora years, something that happened three or four years ago is definitely ancient history.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
quote:To Be Real: [adj] describes a Jatraquero's state of being; if a jatraquero has met in real life, two other jatraqueros, he is said to 'be real.'
This definition neglects to mention that if one wishes to become Real, one must meet two other jatraqueros who are already Real.
How's this?
quote:realness (ríəlnes) n.c. the state of a *HATRACKER’s validity: if one has met in person two other real Hatrackers he becomes real, likewise if five unreal Hatrackers meet together they become real. [T.]
The asterisk and the small-caps mark a cross-reference, the "T." at the end is the etymological source: a term used by the forum.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Two and a half years ago is not ancient history. :)
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
It is not possible for five Hatrackers to achieve realness merely by meeting each other. Two of them must have previously acquired reality.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: It is not possible for five Hatrackers to achieve realness merely by meeting each other. Two of them must have previously acquired reality.
Is this really fair now? Come on! Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
It's absolutely fair. We've had a basic standard of realness for several years now.
Posted by Sarcasm (Member # 4653) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jonathan Howard: The asterisk and the small-caps mark a cross-reference, the "T." at the end is the etymological source: a term used by the forum.
It seems a little silly to me to say that all the terms in the forum's dictionary come from terms used on the forum.
Posted by Sarcasm (Member # 4653) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: It is not possible for five Hatrackers to achieve realness merely by meeting each other. Two of them must have previously acquired reality.
So who were the first Hatrackers to become real?
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Isn't it true that all Real Hatrackers must be able to trace a line to Slash, who came up with the realness criteria?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
That's the way it works.
And it's not hard if you live in almost any major city in the US. Or can arrange to visit one and have a few hours to meet up with some folks from there. Or attend an OSC event. Or a clump gathering or con. Or... Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I thought all Real Hatrackers can trace a line all the way back to the Cards.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Nope. I think it has to do with the first Hatrack gathering five years ago. No Cards attended it.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
But hadn't one or two of the people there met them?
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Meh. Slash isn't even around Hatrack anymore to enforce the rules. I say what the heck, call yourself real.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Oh, also, if you meet two Real Hatrackers before registering on Hatrack, when you register you are Instantly Real.
My husband and daughter were Instantly Real when they joined.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
But are these rules you're spouting "official"?
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I'm with Tom & party. . . you must be connected to the main group by two real Hatrackers to become real, there are no islands of realness out there.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Nobody will admit it, but there is definitely a Hatrack royalty.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Are there any Alternate Realities?
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
I think I'm going to re-register as Pinnochia. I'll never be a real girl.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
quote:Originally posted by advice for robots: Nobody will admit it, but there is definitely a Hatrack royalty.
Oh I hear some admitting going on, loud and clear. Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I don't count.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
afr is a benevolent (and self-deprecating) prince.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
quote:Originally posted by katharina: afr is a benevolent (and self-deprecating) prince.
A benevolent prince, but not necessarily a Hatrack Prince. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Yep. I'm definitely Hatrack royalty. So is ElJay. Slash was, too.
Cope with it.
The word "real" in this context specifically means "can trace a line back to the first Hatrack gathering in SoCal through at least two other previously real Hatrackers."
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Royal Hatrackers
(Me, I'm a lowly peasant )
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
You're actually an upstart.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Et voila.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
She can't last.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Wow. Actually getting a direct response from King Tom is exhilarating. :)
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by katharina: She can't last.
It's true. I feel myself tiring.
But I doubt that I'm an upstart; my Ma always told be "Don't start up anything."
I always listened to my Ma.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
Keep plotting Tante, you’re definitely in a fine position to usurp.
Posted by Sarcasm (Member # 4653) on :
quote:Originally posted by advice for robots: Wow. Actually getting a direct response from King Tom is exhilarating.
Treasure that post always.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Overthrow the current regime!
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
*Puts it in fireproof lockbox along with Space Opera's thread about me*
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
That is so sweet afr.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
What if we like the current regime?
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
I like the current regime, I was just being silly.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
:) Thank you Tammy, and kat, for calling me a prince. I wasn't fishing for attention (seriously!), but thank you.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Tom is my son's favorite Hatracker. On my son's into thread, where he asked if his Mom is cool, Tom was the only one who said "No". He also says that Tom was the only one who gave him an honest answer about whether his poetry was any good. Tom was the only one who said "No".
The rest of you betrayed him.
Thanks, guys. (well, except you, Tom)
Posted by Sarcasm (Member # 4653) on :
Any time, Shvester. Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Look, I'll just add Slash in the entry to give him credit. And as for the last post last page, there's also "M", meaning the term derives from a member's name.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
On my bad days, it seems like I'm just trying to get Royal approval with everything I post here. Neurotic, perhaps. I have no idea what to do with attention when I get it.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: He also says that Tom was the only one who gave him an honest answer about whether his poetry was any good... The rest of you betrayed him.
Hey! I gave him advice too! I didn't just smile and say all is perfect! *Grumble*
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
You know, afr, you're actually quite well-liked. Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
I say I deserve royalty because I am the one from the Holy Land who's been here longest...!
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
You've already met Raia, right? She's Real. Now just arrange to meet Rivka when she next visits Israel and you'll be Real, too. Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
Thanks, Tom. :) That's a relief.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
CM's there now. He's real, too, so if JH meets him he's real.
But he didn't say he deserved reality, he said he deserved royalty. Which isn't conferred, it just kinda happens, as far as I can tell. If people are agreeing with Tom and counting me in, that is. I don't recall an induction ceremony or a secret handshake, at least. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
You're Dana's sister and Bob's sister-in-law. Insofar as there's a Royal Family on Hatrack, it's got to be that one. *grin*
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
That's kinda what I figured. Nice to be recognized for one's own achievements.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:there's a Royal Family on Hatrack
We should start a tabloid and speculate about the potential Dukes and Duchesses.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Isn't there a "One popularity thread at a time" rule on the board or something?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
There really should be. Besides, to get this back on track, there are a fair number of interesting Hatrack-specific words that haven't been listed here yet. Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
That's a moot point. All threads revolve around this one.
Posted by Rico (Member # 7533) on :
quote:Originally posted by advice for robots: That's a moot point. All threads revolve around this one.
This man speaks true!
Posted by Sarcasm (Member # 4653) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: There really should be. Besides, to get this back on track, there are a fair number of interesting Hatrack-specific words that haven't been listed here yet.
So list a few. Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: CM's there now. He's real, too, so if JH meets him he's real.
I met him. I'm a Real boy, now.
Anyway, tell me more words and definitions, and I'll stick them in. I have dozens of entries by now.
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
I've been here 4 years and I'm still not real.
Any real jatraqueros in the south bay?
Pix
Posted by Rico (Member # 7533) on :
v.Hatrack - The act of going into a thread and slowly evolving the topic into something of almost no relevance to the initial post. "My thread was just totally hatracked by the royalty."
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Didn't we have a thread about this about a month ago? We had a big discussion about jatraquero vs. ratraquero vs. ratraquenho.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I loves me some derailment. :) Unless it’s my own thread, of course.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Title aside, I don't think this one was supposed to be about hatrack-specific terms. I saw it more of a game on turning peoples names into new terms, regardless of whether said terms have ever actually been used or not.
--Enigmatic (must be a knave)
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: must be a knave
Reminded me of my favourite insult:
"A knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch: one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if thou deniest the least syllable of thy addition."
Good old Shakey... King Lear's such a great play.
Posted by Rico (Member # 7533) on :
Thread title revised to further clarify the topic!
Posted by Chris Kidd (Member # 2646) on :
I thought to be real a picture had to be taken of you. by a previusely real hatracker to prove that they met.
I know I became real at Endercon. I think JaneX has a picture of me that broke her camera.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
I'm a real boy...
*runs off singing "Tell my Ma when I go home the boys won't leave the girls alone...they pull my hair and steal my comb, but that's alright when I get home. She is hansome she is pretty, she is the bell of Belfast city. She is courting one, two, three! Please won't you tell me who is he!"*
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
I put in some usernames too, but I don't have enough to write about enough people. Give me stuff and I'll insert it. I curently have Orson Scott Card, mpr, Choobak, Dagonee, ElJay (who wants to be off), the Four Horsemen, me, Jon Boy, kwtchupqueen, rivka (with mangled facts), Bob_Scopatz, Tante Shvester, Son of Shvester, TomDavidson and Turgan. Almost all of them need revision, and we're talking about nouns and verbs deriving from their behaviour, not a Hatrack Encyclopaedia. I'm writing a dictionary, after all.
Posted by Sister Annie (Member # 8480) on :
quote:I registered this name primarily to tease a guy named Nick, who constantly missed the sarcasm in various people's posts. He was a good guy and took it well, though. What ever happened to him?
The Face of Viagra? I don't know.... what did happen to him?
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
I still say that someone-not-me needs to create a wikipedia entry for "Hatrack" that we can edit with the Jatraquero Lexicon.
Posted by Treason (Member # 7587) on :
....sniff...wish my name meant something cool..... Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Posted by Treason (Member # 7587) on :
Hey! You're not supposed to smile at me, that was a desperate cry for attention. sheesh! Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
I'm so glad this thread has gotten derailed from the popularity thread it started out to be! Posted by Treason (Member # 7587) on :
But I need some popularity! I don't post 500 times a day like Tante!
But I am starting to catch up and get faster. whooo!
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
I hardly post at all, but I'm totally Real.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
I need to be Real. And hit 1000 before classes start.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I believe there was an exception to the "Real" stuff, with the Cards...
The idea of becoming "Real" happened because of people at Hatrack using so many pseudonyms that no one knew who was real and who wasn't...
But as Hatrack IS OSC's web site he was "real", as was his family, even if they had never met other Hatrackers (as if we would let THAT happen... ).
You have to meet two other jatraqueros who are already real when the meeting occurs.
We had a few people who didn't know anyone other than each other, and that from before they posted here, and they tries to declare themselves "Real", but as none of them had ever met any other Jatraqueros it wasn't valid. Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by Treason:
I don't post 500 times a day like Tante!
But I am starting to catch up and get faster. whooo!
I hardly ever post more than 100 times in any 24-hour period, you treasonous exaggerator.
Catch me if you can!
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
This is like when Bob was chasing Tom... Tante may catch both of them by year's end. Posted by Avadaru (Member # 3026) on :
I don't know if I am real or not yet. I have met Toretha, Fyfe, Fugu, Human, Mayday, and some others who don't post anymore. Am I real?
Posted by Treason (Member # 7587) on :
I love Tante posting one million times a day (who says I exaggerate!?) Who else could post so much in begging the question? I love that thread! Makes me laugh every time. By the way, "Lend me an Ambien?' That ruled.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I know both fugu and Mayday were real, since they were at KamaCon, so you are too, Avadaru. Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
quote:You have to meet two other jatraqueros who are already real when the meeting occurs.
I don't know about that last bit. I would say you can become retroactively real. I think the point is that you must be able to tie in to some other real group.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
I can't leave those questions alone. They have got to be at least half of my total count.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
I think there ought to be an exchange rate for posts in game threads. Maybe seven of those count as one "real" post or something.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
And posts with eight smilies in them don't count.
And this guy counts as seven smilies all by himself: Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
And all posts with the same time stamp count as one.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by Icarus: I think there ought to be an exchange rate for posts in game threads. Maybe seven of those count as one "real" post or something.
Sure, change the rules on me now! And just to spite you, I'll make a "Tag, you're it" thread that will cause such post count inflation as to make the whole system meaningless.
You know what? I think I will.
So there. Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
We really need more stringent requirements for being real. Seems everyone is real these days.
Anyway, back to Hatrack lexicon, if dingle hasn't been included yet, it ought to be.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
<--- agrees
-o-
Further addenda to proposed new postcount exchange rate: Animated smilies should count double toward your seven smilie allowance.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
When do we start requesting seeing peoples' Reality Line Of Authority?
Can there be certificates where indviduals are Certified Real?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Maybe when Annie gets back she'll make certificates.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Oh, you sillies. If you have to ask if you're real, you're not. It's that simple.
I, however, am.
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
I have met Ralphie herself! Therefore, I have a Slash Number of 2, which makes me very real.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
It's degrees of separation. If you had met Slash the Berserker, it would be O degrees of separation. Since Ralphie knows the Berserker, you would have a Slash Number of 1
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
I have a suggestion: let's decide on "authenticity", as one level beyond realness.
The number of real Hatrackers you met (at the time they were real) times the number of posts you posted under your standard pseudonym, times the number of days you were registered on the forum with your main username.
I, for instance, have met 2 real hatrackers. That's 2 times 2305 posts which is 4610, times 283 days I was here, and my authenticity is 1,304,630, in other words I'm roughly with the "authenticity" level of 1.3M.
Those who aren't real will have 0 Hatrack authenticity.
As for those who joined "A Long Time Ago" - I don't know what to do about them.
[ August 23, 2005, 04:58 AM: Message edited by: Jonathan Howard ]
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
I'm not real, and I'm proud of it. So there!
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Note: I just changed the entry "Realness" into a Proper Noun, so I'm capitalising it (if I'll remember to).
OK, how about we divide the result of those multiplications by your Slash Number? I assume that every Real Hatracker is connected to Slash SOMEHOW.
By the way, does anyone know MY Slash Number through either Raia or CM?
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Hmm. . .
I didn't realize that about 'realness.' I must have missed the note somewhere. . .
Anyway, from what I understand, I've been real since 2003, after sitting next to kacard the first day of Literary Boot Camp. Does someone care to inform me differently?
As for Hatrack Royalty-- meh. These things come and go.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
How about this as a formula:
[tr^2 x SQRT(p)]/s^2
"t" being the days you were on, "r" the real people you've met, "p" your post count and "s" your Slash Number?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Scott, I think it's pretty clear that the combination of OSC and kacard can bestow Realness, as I believe both have met Slash. Not to mention any number of other Real Jatraqueros.
Besides, you've met a chunk of the PNW clump -- don't get more real than that.
JH, there may be lines with lower Slash numbers for you, but I've met Ralphie and Raia. So via that route, I guess your Slash number (using Shigosei's formula) is 4.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
So how do you think the formula works? I'm pretty hopeless with functions, but the aim is that someone like Tante who has a very high ratio of posts:time should start off with low increments of rating but increase as time flows with less effect of the posts posted later on. In other words, that the original boost in posts will be more valuable later.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
It all depends on how many real hatrackers she meets and how close they are to Slash.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
If that could have a lesser effect in such a case - the better. I need to apply this to many situations, but I'm no great formulit. How're my graphs doing?
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
The problem with making graphs with that many variables (I don't know how to do it) is that it'll just be squiggly lines or something. But someone with higher math knowledge correct me.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Another thing: what's a mayfly?
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
a short lived thread. One that will be deleted after the question is answered.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Wait, Jonathan, if I understood you correctly, do you want to change the forumla so the number of Real Hatrackers met/Slash number don't affect the outcome so much?
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
JH, do you enjoy trying to make things needlessly complex?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I've lost count of the number of Real Hatrackers I've met, although if I tried hard I could probably get it. Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Jonathan Howard, v.
To make a precocious display, especially in an effort to boast. We were talking about languages, and then he came in and Jonathan Howarded all over the thread. Posted by Jay (Member # 5786) on :
Does that mean we need a thread where we list real people and how they became that way?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*is relieved no one has decided to do her yet*
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
I think that thread already existed a couple years ago, Jay.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Only in a case in which the posts and the time have an extreme ratio of more than, say, 20:1 or 1:5 (posts:days).
I like making things complex (yeah, yeah, "Okam's Razor"), but in this case I want everyone to get what he or she deserves, without a serious possibility for someone to get an extremely high rating/grading only for one thing attained (a long register time, a lot of posts, a lot of Real friends or meeting Slash in person).
Of course, Slash being a No. 0, has an infinite rating. Problematic, or should we keep it?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jonathan Howard: So how do you think the formula works? I'm pretty hopeless with functions, but the aim is that someone like Tante who has a very high ratio of posts:time should start off with low increments of rating but increase as time flows with less effect of the posts posted later on. In other words, that the original boost in posts will be more valuable later.
I refer you to page 1 of this thread, in est:
quote:Jonathan Howardnoun: anything incomprehesible, in any language. We were having a lively debate, and he suddenly blurted a Jonathan Howard.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jonathan Howard: Of course, Slash being a No. 0, has an infinite rating. Problematic, or should we keep it?
Problematic. Give me a bit and I'll try to come up with something. But maybe not tonight.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Oh, ketch, I put you into my dictionary. I have around 45 entries by now.
Posted by Tinros (Member # 8328) on :
I've met OSC, but I'm not allowed to meet people, especially adults, that I've met online. How am I ever gonna become "real"?
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
You turn 18? How old are you now?
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tinros: I've met OSC, but I'm not allowed to meet people, especially adults, that I've met online. How am I ever gonna become "real"?
I'm assuming by this that you are underage, and thus not allowed by your parents. If you really wanted to meet somebody off Hatrack, there is always the possibility of meeting the Hatracker(s) with your parent or guardian present. I believe this has been done before with teenaged Hatrackers. It eliminates most of the "scary internet stalkers" worries which are, of course, completely understandable in a parent.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Tinros (Member # 8328) on :
I'm 17 now, My birthday is May 13, and then I'm going off to college. I don't know of any Jatraqueros that are near me...
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
When you met OSC, was his wife there? If so, you are Real. Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Meet them in your hometown in a public place. Worked for Raia, CM and me.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
The thing is, you only get to become real once, so you should think long and hard about who you give your anonymity to.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
JH, that's a problem when there aren't many hatrackers around. There's only one other hatracker in my area.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
*Laugh.*
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jonathan Howard: I like making things complex (yeah, yeah, "Okam's Razor"), but in this case I want everyone to get what he or she deserves, without a serious possibility for someone to get an extremely high rating/grading only for one thing attained (a long register time, a lot of posts, a lot of Real friends or meeting Slash in person).
Right. . . what I don't understand is why you want to rank/grade people.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
(Because he's a teenage boy?)
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
(I know. . . just curious what answer he'll come up with.)
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Subtract points from ElJay for criticizing The Formula! She's icky! Deduct points!
--Enigmatic
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Because someone was complaining that there are too many Real people. So by showing who's most Hatracky, we can finally have something which is more than just a label ("I'm Real").
It's INITIATIVE.
And what's wrong with me being a teen, kq? wd u rthr me b a avrg 1e0 lol f*** shit dude sure yeah like totally wd u want 1t 2 b so?
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
I second Enigmatic!
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
You don't want to go around seconding Enigmatic, trust me. He'll duck out at the last minute and you'll have to fight the duel instead.
Posted by Tinros (Member # 8328) on :
Actually, OSC AND his wife were there... but I never met her, she just sorta stayed in the background. Am I real?
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
I'd rather fight anyone and anything rather than you, ElJay.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Subtract points from ElJay for impuning the character of her younger brother! Subtract extra points for doing it accurately!
--Enigmatic *whoosh* <-- zipping away sound effect
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Then you definitely shouldn't second Enigmatic. He fights with me more than anyone else, I think.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Hey, I'm diplomatic. But I support someone's decisions. If you want to get into a fight, well, that's your fault and problem; I'm just offering my vote to the one person who truly supports me, at least for now.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Hey Tante, what was that definition again?
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
I changed the definition into "Jon". It's simpler and quicker. No need to elaborate or sophisticate.
Who needs complexity, anyway?
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
quote: I'm just offering my vote to the one person who truly supports me, at least for now.
Wait, I'm doing what now? I thought I was mildly teasing you whilst picking on my sister. Oops.
The whole "Real" thing is relative anyway. For someone who has not met any of the Officially Real people, none of them would have to be considered real. Whereas if you've met a small cluster of Hatrackers they are real to you, whether any of them are Officially Real or not. "Reality" is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes. (MLWTTKK)
--Enigmatic
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
ElJay, I'm sorry. You were right (as usual), your brother is annoying.
I tried to make a reasoning for the relativity with the five Hatrackers meeting at once, except someone ruined it by requiring two of them be real. Doesn't it off-piss?
And what on damnéd, current Earth Or what the hell in Pentland Firth Is whatchyacall it ...TKK? And why would I care, anyway?
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Jon, you're taking this whole thing way too seriously. You know the old saying, if you have to explain a joke it's no longer funny? That also goes for categorizing, defining, and spreadsheeting it.
Posted by Rico (Member # 7533) on :
n. Enigmatic - Someone who claims to support an idea or person only to change his mind at the last minute. 2. Someone who doesn't believe in Reality. 3. A person or thing that drives their sister insane.
"The presidential candidate was uncertain of what would get him the most votes so he pulled an Enigmatic during one of his speeches.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tinros: Actually, OSC AND his wife were there... but I never met her, she just sorta stayed in the background. Am I real?
Terribly sorry, but I don't think so.
Next signing, go up and talk to her (she's really nice!) -- that'll do it. Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
This thread has so severely frayed and unravelled, I don't know if anyone can remember what it's supposed to be about.
Oh yeah! ME! Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
I doubt you could do mine.
Posted by tt&t (Member # 5600) on :
quote:I registered this name primarily to tease a guy named Nick, who constantly missed the sarcasm in various people's posts. He was a good guy and took it well, though. What ever happened to him?
Assuming you're talking about the same Nick, he's alive and well and incredibly busy ("school from 7 til 4:30pm, and working from 5 til 10:15 everyday"). Or was recently, anyway. Not sure if he still posts here (I don't think he has time to often) but occasionally posts at my forum, which is how I know.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
Hey! I never claimed to support his idea, I just think that if he's going to be ranking people anyway he really ought to take points away from ElJay. JH seconded me, not the other way around.
Sid Meier v. To mistake someone with an assumed screen name for the actual celebrity. "We knew she was a ditz when she Sid Meiered Ender by asking him what battle school was like."
--Enigmatic
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
Proof of Realness: I've played Trivial Pursuit with OSC, Kristine and Emily Card... and porcelain girl, JohnKeats and misstammy (none of which are still around, I don't think).
I've also been in Slash's and Olivet's houses, as well as jexx's house and mackillian's (former) apartment (I'm assuming she's moved by now). Plus, I went to bootcamp with JennyGardener (among others already mentioned).
I ooze Realness. I'll try not to get any on your shoes...
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Wow. I'm just a nobody.
With a post count almost twice yours.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
For the record, I never said my brother was annoying or that he drives me insane. As a point of order, I rather like him.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I've always said that post count is meaningless.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: I've always said that post count is meaningless.
Yes, and apparently you've said it many, many times.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Eni
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: For the record, I never said my brother was annoying or that he drives me insane. As a point of order, I rather like him.
The annoying bit was my addition. I'm sorry my punctuation didn't show that.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
quote:Originally posted by Enigmatic:
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: I've always said that post count is meaningless.
Yes, and apparently you've said it many, many times.
--Enigmatic
Irony, thy name is "Davidson".
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
I think post count equals popularity much of the time. We feel like we know the people whose posts we see most often, so people with low post counts just don't get noticed much of the time. It's okay with me; I'm just saying that post count definitely isn't meaningless.
But not all high posters are popular, and not all low posters are invisible. There is, however, a trend in that direction.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote: But not all high posters are popular, and not all low posters are invisible. There is, however, a trend in that direction.
It correlates. It is not causative. Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
It might be somewhat causitive as well--ironically enough, in both directions.
Posted by Λαβύρινθος (Member # 8534) on :
That's why I'm proposing a formula. But someone better than me in maths needs to develop it.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Alternatively, someone who cares.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Or someone who has nothing else to do.
Posted by Λαβύρινθος (Member # 8534) on :
I have nothing to do, I'm going nuts. I signed up in a Bunny name and Tante's about to beat my total posts in a month.
Valium. Please. At this rate I'll drink my problems down.
Posted by KEGE (Member # 424) on :
TomDavidson - do you remember MOTO? Master of the Obvious.
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This thread has so severely frayed and unravelled, I don't know if anyone can remember what it's supposed to be about.