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Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Seriously consider me this:

Canada has pretty much 2 provinces devoted to farming.

Alberta oil sands if exploited are more then enough to fulfill all of our needs.

We are a technologically advanced society with excellent infastructure and a determined population and thus less dependent on other nations for brains.

Quebec and BC make for most if not all of our manufacturing needs.

Exports in Oil, fresh water, maple syrup and hockey cards should be more then enough to make us enough money should we reorganize our economy a little to keep the budger balanced.

Thus IMHO Canada can be self sufficient and the least effected by Peak Oil and similar.
 
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
 
Yes, but you'll be drawn into the coming world war and lose everything.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
not really we can give America the finger and close our borders and post extra mounties along the trails.

After all who the hell would invade us??? We're the Number 1 most respected nation, if I were to go to Holland I'ld get free stuff and a bunch of local girls just waiting to jump me and drag me into the bushes for a chat [Big Grin] .
 
Posted by Ryan Hart (Member # 5513) on :
 
Except you'd all get Mad Cow.
 
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
 
America would have to take back its auto plants, so you couldn't ride around in crappy renamed versions of GM cars anymore.
 
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
 
Blayne Bradley: And then what? [Dont Know]

--j_k
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
We can make our own cars, we did once a long time ago, nationalize the motor plants in our country and use them to make our own cars.

And I;m just saying if the global economy goes down the drain after a bit of a drop we can scrap together a decent living on just what we have here around us.
 
Posted by Wonder Dog (Member # 5691) on :
 
No offense, man, but your "estimates" of our industrial/economic production potential is way, way off.

Specific example: Oil. Right now, Alberta oil sands production is almost a million barrels of oil a day, while our domestic refining capacity is only able to handle about a quarter of that. Most of the oil sands crude (which is heavy in sulfur and other elements that make it harder/more expensive to refine) ends up in American mid-west refineries.

All our projected industry growth in oil sands alone is totally dependant on technology and expertise from the US, China and Japan. How do you expect us to refine enough oil to survive if we cut them off?

Also;
How much do you like using your computer? Ever think you'll want a new one? How is Canada supposed to suddenly aquire the technology and know-how to produce silicon-wafer circuitry in mass amounts? How about LCD panels? Or hard-disk platters? Do you realize that Canada (like most nations) produces almost none of the high technology our country relies on daily?

And what would you want to seal us off from the US (or the rest of the world, for that matter)anyway? What's US done that's so wrong?

Like the rest of the 1st world, we (speaking as a Canadian) are totally dependant on many, many other nations. If the global economy "collapses", we'll have to ride it out like everyone else. We are all connected. Haven't you ever heard of the "Circle of Life"? :0)
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:

not really we can give America the finger and close our borders and post extra mounties along the trails.

Blayne, nothing personal, but if America decided that we wanted Canada, you'd be able to "close your borders" for all of five, maybe six minutes. Canada benefits enormously from the fact that its only actual neighbor is pretty darn benevolent.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Ok if the global economy collapses what does it matter? We probly one of the FEW countries not totally dependent on another country for SURVIVAL sure if the global economy is fine sure lets trade and make some money for healthcare.

I don't want canada to go isolentionist + 8 on me but I take confort in the fact that we could so it if we find ourselves in dire straights.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Hey Tom we burned down the White house dispite the fact that you were an enourmously bigger country back then too. You come up here with your military entrenched in Iraq and Afghanistan as it is, during Winter and you'll have a grand time.

To us Canadians the snow keeps us warm and our beer cold what more could we want?
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
An English dictionary?

Or a good spellchecking program?
 
Posted by Wonder Dog (Member # 5691) on :
 
Geez, thanks Tom. We silly and immature Canadians always need to be reminded of the benevolence of our nieghbours to the south - I am thankful every day that the US allows us independance by thoghtfully not invading us.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Wonder Dog... [ROFL] That was the finest bit of sarcasm I've ever seen.
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
quote:
That was the finest bit of sarcasm I've ever seen.
So, you're 12? 13?
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
18 thank you very much and quite frankly that sarcasm was indeed the funiest bit I've ever seen, whats your friggin problem?
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
I'm implying that perhaps you haven't seen very much sarcasm. I'm also implying that you're behaving quite a bit younger than your claimed age.

I have no problem, friggin or otherwise. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
I like most of the Canadians I've met in person.

A lot of the virtual ones seem to harbor this immense anger, though. Why is that?
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I've seen/heard enough to recnonize which is funny and which is just someone being an ass.

As for behaving younger so what? How am I acting younger exaclty? For appreciating a good joke? For starting a discussion about my country's abilties? How am I acting younger then I am?
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
I'm mainly referring to the bombast, though there are other aspects as well (spelling among them). I'll leave you to discuss as you wish, though.

Seriously, though, my advice is to tone it down a bit. This particular forum tends much more toward civilized discussion than angry, bombastic discourse (uh...on its good days, anyway [Big Grin] ).
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
What anger? I'm not directing any against america, is this the purpose of the thread? No, I'm just pointing out what is possible given the circumstances.

If I seem particularily angry its because I'm being critized unfairly which happens fairly often in real life and non real life.

As for anything involving America I don't see how I was particularily angry or spiteful except in my second post which if I may point out, if America tries to drag us into a world war we the Canadian people do not want that is the somewhat what the Canadian government will do to prevent ourselves from getting dragged into said hypothetical war.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:

We silly and immature Canadians always need to be reminded of the benevolence of our nieghbours to the south - I am thankful every day that the US allows us independance by thoghtfully not invading us.

It's a symbiotic relationship. We allow you to exist, and you provide us with comedians. [Wink]
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
See! Even Tom can appreciate a good joke right Tom? [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
quote:
I've seen/heard enough to recnonize which is funny and which is just someone being an ass.

Have you listened to yourself lately, then?

You start off by saying you can give the US the finger and bar us from your country, then cry foul when someone disagrees with you about that?


It's not like anyone suggested actually invading Canada, right? Not even in jest? And if they were, you brought it up first...and that is as likely as anything else you ahve suggested here...


Which is to say not likely at all. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Please understand that this . . . person does NOT represent all Canadians. *sigh* Or even all Canadian humour.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
quote:
A lot of the virtual ones seem to harbor this immense anger, though.
This is certainly the case for me. Aspects of America make me angry... heck, aspects of most countries make me angry, but America comes up here a lot more often. However, in person, I am a mild mannered person who doesn't argue a point very hard or long because I'm not so praticed on the verbal front or willing to take to the time to make the confrontation. Here, in virtual written land, it's a little easier, so I think I come across as harbouring a lot of fury. I apologise sincerely, Scott, because I know you mean me too.

I'm very mellow in person though, Scott R. I doubt that if we met in person I'd argue with you about anything! I just like to get along.

Blayne, you are being a little childish. We are a good country, in my opinion; we do a lot of things right. But we are a long, long way from perfect or entirely self sufficient. If America closed its trade and/or borders with us, we would suffer. However, so would America, so we need to keep those relations friendly and those borders open, for both our sakes.

If a war broke out and America was involved, Canada would be strongly affected. It is a very close relationship. Whatever happens in America affects us (which is why, by the way, I do tend to get angry about American issues I want to talk about because you're all so darn close! and rich! and influential! It's kind of scary!). We're both in this together, whether we like it or not.

You are right, Blayne. Canada is a respected nation. However, that reputation doesn't include

quote:
will be effed up the least!
or

quote:
we can give America the finger
or

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if I were to go to Holland I'ld get free stuff and a bunch of local girls just waiting to jump me and drag me into the bushes for a chat
or

quote:
we burned down the White house dispite the fact that you were an enourmously bigger country back then too
or

quote:
whats your friggin problem?
Can you look at what you've written and seriously imagine this reputation you imagine exists extends to cover whatever bad behavior you want to exhibit? There is no insurance policy to cover bad behavior.

Sure, you can get angry, I know I do, but try hard to display dignity and respect for yourself, the country you represent, the people on this board and the countries you discuss. I don't just mean America, I mean Holland, too.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
quote:
However, so would America, so we need to keep those relations friendly and those borders open, for both our sakes.
Amen.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
quote:
It's a symbiotic relationship. We allow you to exist, and you provide us with comedians.
You can keep the comedians, I just want the Labatt and Kristin Kreuk, thanks!

Oh, and take Celine & Pam back while you're at it, too! [Wave]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
quote:
we burned down the White house dispite the fact that you were an enourmously bigger country back then too
Um, Teshi, apparently, this actually did happen. I wasn't there, so I'm no witness, but it is reported to have happened on 24 August 1814. Granted, it wasn't called the White House then - that name stuck after the Americans whitewashed the building to cover the scorch marks. But still.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
ARGH BLOODY HELL!

This wasn't even the original point! The point was:

That Canada if the internation economy is adverse enough that it would be better to go without Canada has the potential to be self sufficient enough to afford to close its borders in order to avoid catastrophe.

And I quoute

"Ok if the global economy collapses what does it matter? We probly one of the FEW countries not totally dependent on another country for SURVIVAL sure if the global economy is fine sure lets trade and make some money for healthcare.

I don't want canada to go isolentionist + 8 on me but I take confort in the fact that we could so it if we find ourselves in dire straights."

This i believe is me trying to reposition the topic back to where it is, its someone else who brought up the topic of invasion and to put it bluntly we'll kick any american army all the way down the mississipi and the gulf of texaco!
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
I think the point might also be that, what with spelling errors or word usage problem combined with irregular punctuation, your ramblings are not exactly easy to read. So we have to get our fun wherever we can. [Razz]
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I doubt some of the previous critisism was meant in jest.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
"Yes, but you'll be drawn into the coming world war and lose everything."

AHA He's the one who suggested a war!
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:

to put it bluntly we'll kick any american army all the way down the mississipi and the gulf of texaco!

How? By being all self-deprecating and reasonable at us?
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Well to tell you the truth the Canadian army is far better drilled, and we have the home field advantage, considering also its almost winter.

As I said before, snow keeps us warm and our beer cold.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Yeah, and so what that it'll be a thousand Americans to one. That hardly matters. We're so efficient and better that we can beat those odds. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Well, you do have the laser-guided French-speaking moose. That'll even the odds a bit.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
Well to tell you the truth the Canadian army is far better drilled
Really?
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Yeah, their teeth are in GREAT condition because of it... [Wink]
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
*head in hands
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Don't mess with the Canadians. I've seen how brilliantly Dudley Do-Right has bested Snidely Whiplash on numerous occasions.

If he is representative of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, we'd all better just show some respect.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
quote:
Well to tell you the truth the Canadian army is far better drilled
But they have to stop for sixteen hours while their batteries recharge. And finding non-metric bits south of the border is a big hangup.
 
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
 
All the way to Holland for free stuff and local girls?

Haven't you ever been to Duluth?
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Duluth girls are easy? [Confused]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Really?
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
I grew up in Duluth. It wasn't easy.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
*laughs*
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
Let's settle this fairly.

Both your countries suck.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Yep. Works for me.
 
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
 
That sucking sound ya hear is the US draining the world of resources.
Canada's is the merest of echoes.

Ya really oughtta visit the UexcesSA, jebus. What the rest of the world considers enough for a decent-sized home is the space that an American household uses for storing junk "too good to just throw away".

[ September 04, 2005, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:

Both your countries suck.

Could we please make an exeption for the state of New Jersey?
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Uhm, no.

New Jersey actually passed at the front of the line along with Saskatchewan and Arkansas.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:

What the rest of the world considers a decent-sized house is the space that an American uses for storing junk "too good to just throw away".

I'll thank you not to refer to my daughter that way.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
lol tom.

When an american finish drilling your army goes yeah ok your done, when a canadian finishes our army goes "okay? Good keep drilling"

It's common practice in US forces I believe to specialize in a task, in the Canadian Armed forces soliders are trained in mulitple skills to reduce the possibility of mission failure.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
(Would it be crass to slide away into another car on the train? No offense to Blayne, but although I'm a staunch supporter of the True North, I'm not quite on the same track as you. *rueful look)
 
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
 
What I like is that Canandians are always calling Americans self-important Nationanlists. At the same time, Canadians do this by acting like self-righteous Communists. It is strange to hear a Canadian defending his country like the proverbial pompous American.
 
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
 
By the way, is Canada even its own country? Isn't there still some kind of relationship to the UK?
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
*head in hands, again

[Wink]
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
quote:
Um, Teshi, apparently, this actually did happen. I wasn't there, so I'm no witness, but it is reported to have happened on 24 August 1814.
I know it happened. I'm not talking about his facts but about his presentation.

*ignores the "Canada is communist" joke*
*and the "is Canada its own country" joke*
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
lol tom.

When an american finish drilling your army goes yeah ok your done, when a canadian finishes our army goes "okay? Good keep drilling"

OK. Somebody help me. Does anyone here understand what Blayne is trying to say? And let's have a show of hands: Who thinks that his name is really "Blaine", but he spelled it wrong?
[Wave]
 
Posted by The Reader (Member # 3636) on :
 
I used to be 18, so I thought I knew everything too, especially in matters dealing with America.

Anyway, I think what Blayne is saying is that when American troops are drilling, they don't don't do more than they need to, while Canadian troops keep on going. I don't think I clarified it.

I think that Blayne is wrong for a number of factual reasons. For or against Iraq right now, what other military could have toppled a stable government in a month with the losses as minimal as they were at the time? Who else could have crushed the Taliban? Well I suppose anyone. The Taliban was weak.

Blayne, do you really think American troops don't train for extreme winter fighting? And how could outnumbered Canadian troops push Americans back toward Missippi?

*baffled that I am in a discussion about warring with Canada*
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
We have a General Governor, technically I think it used ot be that when we made a new law the Queen would confirm it. I forget if that was the British North America Act or something else.

Now another reason why I love my country is because we are so polite. I asked England nicely is we could have our own country you guys grabed any gun you could and banged away at anything in red. Sheesh.

And of course we could push America back all we have to do is arm our beavers and polar bears.

And reader you did a good job clarifying me.

And my name is really Blayne not the pokemon gym teacher way of spelling in. B-L-A-Y-N-E SPACE B-R-A-D-L-E-Y [Mad]

Back to the outnumbered question:

Alexander was outnumbered, Napoleon was constantly outnummbered, Germany was outnumbered and reached the Volga, and once more in 1812 Canada was drastically outnumbered as well.
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
So all Canada needs is one of the greatest military minds to come along and they're set!
 
Posted by Eldrad (Member # 8578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
And of course we could push America back all we have to do is arm our beavers and polar bears.

And my name is really Blayne not the pokemon gym teacher way of spelling in. B-L-A-Y-N-E SPACE B-R-A-D-L-E-Y [Mad]

Back to the outnumbered question:

Alexander was outnumbered, Napoleon was constantly outnummbered, Germany was outnumbered and reached the Volga, and once more in 1812 Canada was drastically outnumbered as well.

You forget that the U.S. wasn't a major military power during the War of 1812, whereas England was; we were fighting both of you at the time, so the fact that the White House was burned isn't quite so impressive a feat.

All the same, I must say...beavers and polar bears and pokemon, oh my!
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
I asked England nicely is we could have our own country you guys grabed any gun you could and banged away at anything in red.
I just wanted to preserve this little nugget in case it got edited.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
quote:

Now another reason why I love my country is because we are so polite.

And you are a prime example of this?

quote:
I asked England nicely is we could have our own country you guys grabed any gun you could and banged away at anything in red.
You personally are responsible for Canada's independance?

I will let someone else address the rest. Too funny for words. [Smile]
 
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
 
mph: [Big Grin]

quote:
Hey Tom we burned down the White house dispite the fact that you were an enourmously bigger country back then too
quote:
You forget that the U.S. wasn't a major military power during the War of 1812, whereas England was; we were fighting both of you at the time, so the fact that the White House was burned isn't quite so impressive a feat.
Two words: Fort McHenry. [Razz]

/go Maryland! [Wink]

--j_k
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
woops I meant "we". I'm not that old.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
quote:
Now another reason why I love my country is because we are so polite.
I hope you aren't including yourself in this "we", because I don't see much politeness from you.

Look, if America wanted something of Canada's they wouldn't invade, not without a good excuse like Canada's creation of nuclear weapons. There would be a little bit of backroom politics and a few economic bribes and Canada would either say "no" or say "yes".

Military all-out war is not the only way to gain control of or power over a country!
 
Posted by The Reader (Member # 3636) on :
 
quote:
Now another reason why I love my country is because we are so polite. I asked England nicely is we could have our own country you guys grabed any gun you could and banged away at anything in red. Sheesh.
General tyranny can result in a revolution. I seem to recall that the British pushed taxes on the colonies, higher than what many colonists wanted to or could pay. The British also had a tendency to repress certain Christian sects because the Crown said to do so. In addition, there was oppression of free speech and the press. I could go on, but I would recommend that you read our Declaration of Independence for more damning accusations.

By the way, the British didn't care as much about Canada as it did India. India was the crown jewel of the empire. When Canada asked to go, Britain effectively said "fine, go." because it needed India, but not Canada. This doesn't downgrade the importance of Canadian independence. It deserved it much as any other British colony, but I think you, Blayne, need some perspective before you start believing editorial propaganda about Canada's alleged moral superiority.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
And explain where I get this so called editorial propoganda, as far as you know I only read Hatrack, is thus by your logic Hatrack propoganda?
 
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
 
It's like arguing with a sixth grader. Not saying you are a sixth grader, Blayne - just that you write like one.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Oh yeah? Well he's rubber and you're glue. [Razz]
 
Posted by Chungwa (Member # 6421) on :
 
Blayne, please. You're embarrassing us.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I call it fools syndrom, writes a comment that is generally non threatening, someone else responds in a challenging fashion so that Party A has to respond swiftly yet stupidly and when called on it forces Party A to continue not only defending his point past its expiration date but to do so indefinatly againt ever increasing opposition just to save face.
 
Posted by Rappin' Ronnie Reagan (Member # 5626) on :
 
That doesn't explain the bad grammar and spelling.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:

When an american finish drilling your army goes yeah ok your done, when a canadian finishes our army goes "okay? Good keep drilling"

Maybe that's because the American military, when it's finished drilling, does something. [Wink] Not that this is always a good thing.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
quote:
I know it happened. I'm not talking about his facts but about his presentation.

Got it. And I'm right there with you.

One more time - this peron and his/her/its arguments are NOT representative of all Canadians everywhere. I would even go so far as to hazard a guess that he/she/it does not represent the attitudes of even most, some, or a few Canadians.

That is all. You may carry on now.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Whoo Hoo! Carrying On!
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Actually its a hodge podge of other's people's views.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Oh, it's something all right.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
wow, there are like a whole 10 things that I think are that something
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
quote:
... it forces Party A to continue not only defending his point past its expiration date but to do so indefinatly againt ever increasing opposition just to save face.
Not worth it, Blayne. Seriously.

Saving face is way overrated. Be accurate about the things you know, frank about what is speculation, and humble about your errors. Less face, more character. [Smile]
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
The Party is always right, the Internal Counter terrorism Force will arrest you within due time for crimes against my Ego.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Leggo my Ego.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Is that what I was holding?! It's squishy! >_<

*leggos*
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I've never had my ego or leggos described as squishy before...
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
*primly* I was holding CT's ego.

I don't touch boy egos. They have cooties.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
nooooo our ultra secret plan to give boy cooties to girls has failed! now we can mind control them. [Frown]
 
Posted by The Reader (Member # 3636) on :
 
quote:
And explain where I get this so called editorial propoganda, as far as you know I only read Hatrack, is thus by your logic Hatrack propoganda?
I'm going to respond to this because it is the post with clear grammar.

Why would you think that I would assume that you only read Hatrack? I don't know what else you read, but it would be pretty dumb of me to think that Hatrack is your only material. I do assume that you read Canadian newspapers and magazines, because it would make sense for a Canadian to so.

It was an overstatement to use "propaganda", but you still are clearly parroting the assertions of much of the Canadian media that it is a morally superior country. It's relative (relativistic patriotism?) anyway because both nations hold different beliefs about what makes us "good."

I'm rubber, you're glue... Nah nah nah! [Razz]
 
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
 
I think that the U.S. going to war with Canada is far less unbelievable than it was ten years ago. Fundimental beliefs about each other and ourselves has drastically changed to the point of becoming luke warm partners. I think all it would take is a disagreement about trade that increases the already bad feelings both governments have seemed to express.

Now, this might be another ten or fifteen years down the road if things don't change. But, I can see it getting to the point of at least embargo and rediculous trade rules against each other.

Surprisingly, I don't see the same thing happening between Mexico and the U.S. Perhaps its because I don't see the U.S. and Mexico as having such historically close ties, and therefore less is threatened.
 
Posted by dh (Member # 6929) on :
 
What an incredibly stupid thread. Who is this troll who started it?
 
Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :
 
It's a baby troll, just testing his shaky legs.

They're kinda cute at that age, but a bit noisy.
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
It's Sid Meier, in his new clothing.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I feel like tearing the head off of several care bears right now.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Actually, to be honest, I find Canadian nationalism kind of cute.
 
Posted by CStroman (Member # 6872) on :
 
I don't know much about Canada and I've never been there.

quote:
General tyranny can result in a revolution. I seem to recall that the British pushed taxes on the colonies, higher than what many colonists wanted to or could pay. The British also had a tendency to repress certain Christian sects because the Crown said to do so. In addition, there was oppression of free speech and the press. I could go on, but I would recommend that you read our Declaration of Independence for more damning accusations.
New Declaration of Independence anyone?
 
Posted by Parsimony (Member # 8140) on :
 
I can't stop laughing at this thread. It's just...just...Well, I know most of you already know what I'm trying to say.

Keep up the good work Blayne! You can only go uphill from here.

--ApostleRadio
 
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
 
I think of Canada as our brother. I see no reason to complete. We are on the same path and have for the most part the same culture.
 
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
 
Except for those darned Francophones!

They're all...french-like...
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
We are on the same path and have for the most part the same culture.
I've got to disagree with you there. Canada has not shared with us many of the events that have really shaped America: the revolution, the civil war, becoming a superpower after WWII, the civil rights movement, etc..
 
Posted by Chungwa (Member # 6421) on :
 
While the two countries have not shared in the specific events that helped shaped each nation, both have turned out rather similar. Sure, Canada is more liberal and the US is more conservative (at this time, and politically speaking), but there aren't really that many differences.

There's certainly no other place a citizen of either country could go to that would feel as much like "home" while still being a different country.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
We're less gun crazy, 11 million guns and yet only ~200 gun deaths per year.

Also we pronounce words differently and spell em differently, Labour, colour, etc.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
I could go to Italy and feel more at home than Canada. . . [Smile]
 
Posted by Chungwa (Member # 6421) on :
 
You may be able to, but the average American wouldn't.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
How much of that is because the avearage American is monolingual?
 
Posted by DarkKnight (Member # 7536) on :
 
I just keep thinking....
But your Canada....no one else cares except you
 
Posted by Chungwa (Member # 6421) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
How much of that is because the avearage American is monolingual?

A great deal, I'm sure.
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
Not that much, actually.

I doubt the average American would feel as at home in Britain as he/she would in Canada.
 
Posted by Chungwa (Member # 6421) on :
 
I thought about that, too. But atleast some of that could be attributed to languages in Europe - there's a lot more languages spoken in Britain than in Canada.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Nah, I think I'd feel more at home in Canada than Britain or Australia. I think Canada/USA culture is closer when compared to those.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Having been to both Canada and England, I feel more at home in England. But, then, I kind of prefer England to the States, so YMMV.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
I can't believe nobody's gone all Bob & Doug MacKenzie in this thread yet. There's a mouse in my beer, eh.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Ya Brit-lover. [Wink]
 
Posted by Parsimony (Member # 8140) on :
 
Take off, ya hoser!

--ApostleRadio
 
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
Canadians are kind of like mimes, you want to hit them but would feel too guilty doing so because, Christ, they're already a mime.

Edit: Although Canadians are kind of all talk and no action, kind of like a Bizzaro world mime.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Where the hell do you get that impression from?
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
BtL, aren't you dissing a group of which you are a member?
 
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
I thought that was all the rage these days.
 


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