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Posted by peterh (Member # 5208) on :
 
Now we have the nano
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
*whistles*

That's cute. I already have a 15G iPod, and see no reason why I'd want less capacity. . . but. . .

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
I haven't bought an iPod. If they get it under $125, I'll think about it.
 
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
 
...woah...

...so pretty...

I love the classic white ipod design and now they've gone and shrunk it. Very nice. Not enough capacity for me (*hugs 40GB*) but I can see this selling really well.
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
Good grief woman! Get on ebay!

The ipod changed my life!
 
Posted by Treason (Member # 7587) on :
 
Oh my, that is the cutest little thing I ever saw.
I love my 15G though. Need more, really.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Funny, my mini works fine...

-Bok
 
Posted by Avadaru (Member # 3026) on :
 
I have a mini, and I love it. It's pink and cute...that one looks like it only comes in white.
 
Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
 
I don't own an iPod. I don't really see the point. *shrug*
 
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
 
It comes in white or black, Avadaru.

Look to the cookie.
 
Posted by johnsonweed (Member # 8114) on :
 
Meh...I have an iRiver 1 GB and it is awesome. I like the fact that I have a FM tuner, voice and in-line recording capability. The sound quality of the iRiver is superior to the iPod as well.
 
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Christy:
I don't own an iPod. I don't really see the point. *shrug*

Well that is because you have no soul...
 
Posted by Parsimony (Member # 8140) on :
 
I recently won an ipod in a raffle. At the time I thought it was funny because I didn't want one and thought I had no use for one. I had many people offer to buy it when I said this.

Now that I have it, I love it, and I can't believe I didn't want it.

--ApostleRadio
 
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
I keep music on my laptop.
 
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by katharina:
I haven't bought an iPod. If they get it under $125, I'll think about it.

Will never ever happen (Unless you count the shuffle).
 
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
 
Impressive. I just got a 20 gig photo one though. It's like my new baby.
 
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
 
And then there's the iPod Flea...
 
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
 
quote:
The sound quality of the iRiver is superior to the iPod as well.
And what is your basis for this statement?
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
My PDA plays mp3s. I doubt highly I will ever buy an mp3 player. I don't see the point, given the expense. I do wish I had more than the 1+ gig I have. Do they make flash cards bigger than 1 gig? I don't need twenty or forty gigs. Just two or three would probably make me completely happy.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:

Do they make flash cards bigger than 1 gig?

Yes.
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Do those flash cards cost nearly as much as an entire standalone handheld music player with even more flash capacity?

Yes.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Can I now hope that the flash cards will come down in price or that I will have a reasonable opportunity to shoplift one [Wink] ? Yes.

Do those standalone units remind me of my appointments, track my calories, show slideshows of my pictures, access the internet, run M$ Office applications, play video games, record sounds, share data with my PC, and work as a telephone?
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
[Eek!] Those are expensive!
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Told ya [Razz]

Also, while the all in one has its perks, there are good economic and social reasons to suspect that most people will not choose all such functionality bundled together. For one thing, this has historically not been true; take a look at how people organize multimedia in their homes, for instance.
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by johnsonweed:
I like the fact that I have a FM tuner, voice and in-line recording capability.

Those features are indeed very cool. This new iPod and that iRiver are both way too small for me (I have a 30GB iPod and it's only got about 4GB of free space), but my plug-in FM tuner sucks battery juice like there's no tomorrow. I'm planning to buy a car adapter, because I love having it on road trips.

Added: Also, the unit's physical size (or lack thereof) is not a selling point for me. I wear very large earmuff-style headphones.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
hmm . . . Froogle has them as low as $120. I'd rather pay under $100, but still not a bad price, it would seem . . .

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=%22secure+digital+memory%22+2gb&scoring=p

Any warnings regarding buying them from a brand I don't know, like Patriot Extreme Performance, or buying from a vendor I'm not familiar with, like newegg.com?
 
Posted by ambyr (Member # 7616) on :
 
Does it still come with a full Apple warranty?
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
fugu, you may be right about most people, but what I'm describing is something I already have and have been using for at least three years. I specifically need an all-in-one (or nothing at all . . . I don't need an mp3 player) because I won't carry or keep track of a lot of different things. I waited to buy a PDA until I could get one that was also a phone for just this reason. Finding the one I bought has quite literally changed my life. [Smile]
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
sorry, ambyr, I'm cross pollinating this thread. Those aren't iPods I'm linking to, they're flash cards.
 
Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
I think the most amazing part of this whole announcement is Apple's ability to manipulate the press.

For the last few weeks we've been bombarded by story after story about the iTunes phone. I got so sick of hearing about a product that most people would never even take a second look at. I was very pleased to see that the iTunes phone was just a front for the biggest iPod release since the original iPod.

It's even funnier to see the press' unwillingness to let the iTunes phone go and cover the real story.

We're going down to the store tomorrow to have a look-see.

*applauds Apple*
 
Posted by beatnix19 (Member # 5836) on :
 
I just bought an 20GB iPod Photo. I was very torn about what brand to buy. I have always harbored a deep hatred for all things apple but I'm very happy with the iPod. In fact the darn little thing is amazingly cool. I would have to agree about the nano's size. It's way to small. I've got nearly 60 gig of music on my hard drive and even my 20GB iPod will require me to do a lot of swapping. I can't imagine having only 4 gig.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
I'm with Icarus on this one. I do not need an mp3 player, although I enjoy that feature of my (still pretty new) Tungsten E. I prefer not to have my phone be part of my Palm, but I'm happy to have it do everything else.

I have the free 128 card that came with my Palm (backing up and a couple dozen songs) and I bought a 1G card a couple months ago. (After sale and rebate it was something like $60.)

When I am sufficiently bored of the current songs on it, I swap in new ones. On the small card I mostly have songs that I don't want often, but will be keeping. (Like Lehrer's The Elements, which I need for school. And Have a Little Priest (from Sweeney Todd), which I like to listen to every once in a while.)

[ September 08, 2005, 09:59 AM: Message edited by: rivka ]
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
I have a 30 gig Ipod (gen 3) and I really would like to move to the 60 gig photo Ipod. Mine stays full, and since I've had it for 2 years the battery life stinks, but I listen mainly in the car so it's a non-issue.

My one complaint is that you can't jog with it.
 
Posted by Goo Boy (Member # 7752) on :
 
Why not?

I "run" [Wink] with my PDA.
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Your PDA uses solid-state storage, whereas the full-size iPod has a hard drive (that's why there are 60GB iPods but no 60GB Rios or iPod nanos). If you jostle it enough, you can make it skip.

On a related note, Sony announced a new Walkman yesterday as well.
 
Posted by johnsonweed (Member # 8114) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by narrativium:
quote:
The sound quality of the iRiver is superior to the iPod as well.
And what is your basis for this statement?
I spent some time listening to them both. I am sort of obsessive about sizing things up before I buy them.
 
Posted by johnsonweed (Member # 8114) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Icarus:
Can I now hope that the flash cards will come down in price or that I will have a reasonable opportunity to shoplift one [Wink] ? Yes.

Do those standalone units remind me of my appointments, track my calories, show slideshows of my pictures, access the internet, run M$ Office applications, play video games, record sounds, share data with my PC, and work as a telephone?

Icarus,

Microsoft is developing a new operating system that will allow a handheld device to do all those things. Bill Gates is betting that we will ties of having dedicated electronics filling our pockes when one device can do it all including phone, internet, camera, GPS, games and music.
 
Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
 
I remember that little essay OSC wrote about the iPod, and I can only agree with him more and more.
 
Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
 
I hope to get an iPod someday. But they're so expensive. So far, the "WANT!" factor hasn't outweighed the cost of the thing.

I did get a Rio Forge 256MB at woot.com for $50 (half price) about a month and a half ago. I like it a lot. [Smile] Previously I used a CD player, and I often couldn't be bothered to change the CD, so often listened to the same one for days. It's nice to have something that can hold more music so there's more of a mix. It's even big enough to hold several episodes of The Signal, which is awesome.
 
Posted by Goo Boy (Member # 7752) on :
 
johnsonweed, you misunderstand me. My PocketPC already does all these things. I stated what you quoted in response to fugu, explaining why someone might choose an "inferior" mp3 player--basically, when the mp3 player isn't what you want but just an added benefit.

What I'm really hoping for is someone who can vouch for newegg.com and for Patriot Extreme Performance . . .
 
Posted by camus (Member # 8052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion:
I remember that little essay OSC wrote about the iPod, and I can only agree with him more and more.

agree on what part? If I remember correctly, he voiced many opinions and judgments on both people and products in that essay.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I'll vouch for NewEgg in a heartbeat. I've never heard of Patriot, though.
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
How much is an Ipod when you buy an ibook? I heard it was less but not sure how much, I don't need tons of space (but more than a shuffle). Size doesn't matter.
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
I thought only boys believed that.
 
Posted by Goo Boy (Member # 7752) on :
 
[Cry]

-o-

Thanks, Tom.

Now if I only bad a hundred bucks. [Smile]
 
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by johnsonweed:
quote:
Originally posted by narrativium:
quote:
The sound quality of the iRiver is superior to the iPod as well.
And what is your basis for this statement?
I spent some time listening to them both.
Oh, yes. That's scientific.

Did you listen to the exact same tracks, encoded with the same program on the same computer? Did you listen to those tracks with the same pair of headphones? Which iPod did you try, and which iRiver player? Did you try different iPods? How much background noise was there where you were listening? Exactly how much difference in sound quality was there between the players you tested?

True, the iPods may have fewer features than your player. But don't spread ignorance based on extremely limited observations.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
::wonders if peterh is another name for scottneb::
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
btw, I don't think he's spreading ignorance; he's spreading his observations. They might not be scientific enough for you, but it seems pretty crappy to call it ignorance. Seems a bit overzealous to me. This is why Mac people can't get dates. [Smile]
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Ouch, Ic. Ouch. [Wink]
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
Sure we can! With other Mac people! And who'd want to date anyone else, anyway?
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
B-b-b-but, that's homocomputational! [Eek!]

-o-

*patpat* Twink, you know I don't mean the naked guitar-wielding Mac users [Wink]
 
Posted by dabbler (Member # 6443) on :
 
*hugs self* mmm, Mac people.

Though for the audio comparison, at the very least I'd strongly suggest using the headphones you're planning on using with the device. The headphones that come with the devices aren't the best choices, and if you're worried about minor audio differences you're probably willing to buy great headphones. I personally hate earbud headphones, and use a decent pair of Sennheiser headphones (decent, not Great).

I really like the black iPod nano. What can I say, it's the goth in me. I'm not so worried about the room. I have a first gen 5 gig iPod and while I have about 4 gigs on it, I don't listen to a good third of it regularly.
 
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
 
I debated about space when I was getting my iPod, but the ultimate deciding factor was that the iPod 20 gig was only about $60 more expensive than the iPod mini 4 gig. (my college store does that whole discount thing). I have to say I'm very happy with my choice. Even though I'm kind of like you dabbler in that I don't listen to most of the music on here regularly, I'd rather have it there than have to keep updating it whenever I want to listen to it. And it also works whenever I'm in the mood for a particular artist.
 


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