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Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Just finished watching the pilot of Firefly.

Damn, that's good. "If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed."

They really thought the pilot wasn't good enough to show on TV?

Crazy network executives.

Posted by Treason (Member # 7587) on :

Another convert?
[Smile]

Hoorah!

Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :

Awesome! Watch more!

Posted by Hamson (Member # 7808) on :

I just got the series a week or so ago, and finished The Train Job recently. I think I'm gonna watch the next one tonight. I have to say, I do like it so far.

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

[Big Grin]

The best thing is, Dags and Hamson - it just gets better. [Smile]

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

*sigh*

Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :

I watched Serenity tonight, and we were talking about this.

Someone at Fox is very, very upset right now.

Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :

quote:
Someone at Fox is very, very upset right now

Not really. Fox got a pretty good chunk from SciFi for the syndication rights, and they're getting paid from the DVD sales as well. And a show can't become a cult classic if you leave it on the air.

Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :

Yeah, but they could have had so much more.

Posted by Treason (Member # 7587) on :

We could have had so much more...
[Frown]

Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :

No, I agree. I would have loved if Firefly woulda had a few more seasons. But what's happened with it since it really the best possible scenario for a cancelled show.

Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :

quote:
And a show can't become a cult classic if you leave it on the air.

*disagrees* Buffy was a cult classic while it was on air. So was Freaks and Geeks. I'm sure there are others and I think that Firefly totally could have been one of them. [Frown]

Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :

*sigh* Ah, Joss Whedon. Is there anythign you can't do?

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Let's just say I watched three episodes instead of the Redskins game today. That should tell you how good it is. [Smile]

Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :

[Smile]

Yay Dag! I wish I could watch it with you guys, it's so fun to see other people enjoying the show too.

So. Have you seen Serenity yet?

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Nope. TV first, then the movie. [Smile]

Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :

*hugs the new convert*

Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :

So, should we tell him the super secret rituals that we Firefly fans perform when the moon is full? Or not? [Wink]

Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :

Should we tell him what happened in the Skins game?

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

He knows. [Cry]

Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :

I'm sure Fox execs are laughing all the way to bank. Every person who see the movie is a potential person who will buy the complete series. The movie is just one long commercial for the TV series DVD set.

Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :

And a damned good one, too...

I will be buying the DVD set.

Dag... you *must* see this movie.

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

I finished the series. Making plans to see the movie sometime this week.

Wow, that's a good show. Just...good.

Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :

[Big Grin]

Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :

For them, see, it's all about ratings. You know what I think would get great ratings? Ritual sacrifices of network executives that cancel great shows.

Think we could sell 'em on THAT?

*grumble*

Sorry, I'm in a terrible mood*

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Fox has cancelled more shows I really like than any other network. But, then, Fox was the only network that ran shows like Brisco County, Jr. and Space: Above and Beyond. UPN and WB were desperate enough to give Buffy and Angel decent runs. Maybe if Firefly had been on UPN it would still be on.

If BSG is profitable for SFN, maybe new Firefly episodes would be, too. Any news on that front?

Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :

In relatively unrelated news, I always did like Brisco County Jr.

--Enigmatic

Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :

My fangirliness has reached unprecedented heights. I mean, just look! I created and moderate a fan community on Live journal! This fan community is active. It's growing. And I'm quite proud of it. [Blushing]

Honestly, I've never been this way about anything else. Ever.

Posted by esl (Member # 3143) on :

Has a cancelled tv show ever been signed for more episodes?

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Family Guy was. And Buffy, although it never went off the air.

To expand the geekiness notion, Firefly is exactly the kind of feel I liked when I played Traveler. Small arms expertise, fast ships with no arms, special forces and caper adventures.

Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :

quote:
Originally posted by imogen:

The best thing is, Dags and Hamson - it just gets better.

*nods fervently*

I've always considered the episodes in the middle--Shindig, Our Mrs. Reynolds, Jayne's Town, and Out of Gas--as the best ones.

Of course, that is subject to hours and hours of fun debate among flans.

Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :

Out of Gas is simply incredible. So's Jayne's Town. In fact, let's stage a Hatrack Firefly Marathon.

Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :

YAY for Dag! [Smile]

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

I *love* the (mild spoiler... not really, but I'm kind of paranoid now)

.
.
. return of YoSaffBridge. [Smile]

Posted by esl (Member # 3143) on :

Lol, me too! [Big Grin]

I'm just sorry he only called her that once, that I remember.

Posted by human_2.0 (Member # 6006) on :

I absolutly love Firefly! I actually watched the whole thing when it originally aired! [Big Grin]

Posted by Shmuel (Member # 7586) on :

quote:
Family Guy was. And Buffy, although it never went off the air.

Family Guy is a great example. Buffy was never actually cancelled; it just jumped networks. The WB would have liked to have kept it. Grounded for Life would qualify, though: cancelled by Fox, picked up by the WB.

With that said, my understanding is that if Firefly were to return to the small screen, it'd have to be on Fox, and that Joss is not particularly inclined to go through that again.

Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :

They could pull a Disney and make new episodes and release it straight to DVD.

Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :

Not quite cancelled, but a definate network jump of a similar vein would be Stargate SG-1. Come to think of it, why do all these shows being mentioned have some relationship with Fox...

Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :

'Cause Fox is stoopid and has no taste?

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

But also because the original 3 networks haven't put anything this good on in years, so there's little danger of them cancelling such a good show.

F&G excepted.

Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :

quote:
return of YoSaffBridge. [Smile]

I SHAVED MY BEARD FOR YOU, DEVIL WOMAN!

[Big Grin]

Posted by Shmuel (Member # 7586) on :

In fairness to Fox, Dagonee makes a good point above: Fox cancels a whole lot of shows, but it's also willing to give all sorts of weird stuff a chance, stuff that'd never see the light of day anywhere else. This puts them in the position to cancel more innovative shows than other networks, but that coin does have two sides.

Posted by Lime (Member # 1707) on :

Yes, but it's heartbreaking sometimes. I mean, I went from Firefly to Wonderfalls to The Inside. All of which were cancelled in the same time frame, all of which were excellent beyond mortal television and all of which have (or will) hit as a DVD collection.

At least Tim Minnear's maintained a positive attitude about the whole thing.

Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :

Yeah, now if only they could get past the CANCELLING great shows part...