Is anybody else seeing apostrophes and quotation marks as an odd collection of characters? It's only happening on this board that I can tell--and it is not consistent at all.
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
I'm getting that, too. Not in every thread, but in some of them.
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
Nope. What's your browser? It isn't happening to me, but sometimes it does happen on certain sites when I use Firefox. Not all the time, though. Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
I'm thinking it might be french letters that aren't being interpreted correctly by my computer? Like the ones with accents?
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
I think that's supposed to be lycee...with an accent over the first e..
But I could have sworn I saw it do that in place of apostrophes and quotation marks, too.
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
Firefox.
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
I'm using Firefox as well, and I'm having problems too.
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
Here's an example where it's doing it on apostrophes:
quote:I’ve been here forever, it seems, and never done a landmark. Some of you who I have met in real life know that there are some things I simply prefer not to talk about online. I know that may sound odd, since I do seem like the sort who will say anything. It’s true – I WILL say anything. But I won’t share everything, and that’s the way it should be, I think.
I just use Internet Explorer, and didn't have this issue until I think yesterday or the day before. I don't think I have this problem on my home computer, either (although I could easily be mistaken), and I use IE there, too.
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
Maybe there's an extension or something. (It's funny, I typoed extension and somehow got the "need more extensions" box to pop up.) Anyway, I'm at work, and I can't even view the new extensions. I get redirected to a page to update my firefox browser--and I can't install software on my work computer. Nobody can. So I have to get the IT guy to do it. It's kind of an annoying feature of firefox. Sometimes I want to view the extensions BEFORE I update.
Posted by Nell Gwyn (Member # 8291) on :
I'm using IE, and I've noticed the odd characters too. I think it's mostly with the French accents.
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
So it's not just Firefox. That's a good example of what I mean, Ophelia. It really keeps me from understanding what I'm reading, since I don't have the patience to slow down and figure it out.
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
Ophelia, what post is that from?
And this is something I've noticed recently on the forum... I wonder if it was an update or something.
I also notice that happen with apostrophes when I cut and paste in my email, but the apostrophes get replaced with question marks. It happens on web pages sometimes, too. And also when it's clear someone has cut and pasted.
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
Sorry, just checking to see if the forumware writers had changed how ' & ' operates within their program.
Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
I'm having problems with IE from work. I first noticed it with Vána's name. I don't think I've been to the board recently from home, so I can't say if it's working fine in Firefox for me.
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
I tried it in all three browsers: firefox, IE, and netscape. It's doing it in all of them.
I go home now. Hope somebody figures it out. Posted by ricree101 (Member # 7749) on :
check your character encoding. I was having that problem, but setting encoding to western took care of it for me.
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
How?
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
I am having the same problem at home. And my encoding is in Western.
(Kat, to change my encoding I go to View, and Encoding is about 3/4 of the way down the list of options there.)
[ November 04, 2005, 06:16 PM: Message edited by: Ophelia ]
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Ah!
Set the encoding to Unicode. That solved the problem.
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
How do I make it stay in Unicode? Every time I go to a new page it goes back to Western European.
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
Make that every time I go to a new Hatrack page. I can go to non-hatrack pages and it will stay in Unicode.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Hmm. Mine did, too.
I dunno. Let me play w/it a sec.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Hmm.
Ok.
My guess is that something has changed in the encoding of the forum software. But this is a wild, uneducated guess. I'm hoping someone with a bit more knowledge in this area (say, fugu) might step in and give some hints.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
The board is now actually encoded in UTF-8.
It says its encoded in ISO-8859-1 (also known as Latin 1).
If your browser has an option to choose character encoding, choose UTF-8 and things will appear correctly. Safari has this option under the view menu, as does Firefox. I'm not familiar with where IE stashes it, but I wouldn't be surprised were it the same place.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Yup, that fixed it.
I'm in IE:
View Encoding Unicode (UTF-8)
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
(Of course, I refreshed, and it went back to the previous encoding. )
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
Yeah, but it won't stay in Unicode (UTF-8) as long as I'm going to a new Hatrack page, and it keeps switching back.
When I'm going to new non-Hatrack pages, though, it will stay in Unicode without a problem.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
The other pages either specify UTF-8 or don't specify an encoding, which is why it stays UTF-8.
There should be a setting for this in the forum software administration panel.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
So, then, it is a forum software problem? I'm not completely on crack?
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
They might've inserted new code into the forum cookie that resets the character encoding back to WesternEuropean(ISO) every time ya click to view a forum page.
Then again, I first noticed it after a Microsoft update. So it could be that Window's new code doesn't play well with the forum cookie. It does seem that Microsoft's coding changes often cause nonMicrosoft programs to glitch.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, if Hatrack says it's not UTF-8 and it is, that's the problem.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
aspectre: cookies can't force encoding changes. All the pages are set to Latin 1, so whenever you visit a page your browser sets its encoding to Latin 1. When you change it to UTF-8, that's purely a browser setting, and overrides what the site is telling the browser to set itself to. When you go to a different page, it (properly) goes back to using what the page tells it to.
It is a forum software problem, and it has nothing to do with MS. The same issue happens on Safari and Firefox on OS X.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Woot! I'm not on crack!
Exciting.
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
So is there a way for us to fix it on our computers or does Infopop have to do something?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I noticed this morning, it's fixed. Posted by Mike (Member # 55) on :
Didn't someone mention in a recent thread that this change was put in place to prevent username spoofing with the use of look-alike unicode characters? If it were up to me, I'd stick with unicode unless spoofing became a problem that couldn't be solved any other way. D'you think the mods might be ok with changing it back to how it was?
[Edit: yes, here]
Posted by Mike (Member # 55) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: I noticed this morning, it's fixed.
What's fixed? Anything with accents still looks like a mess. See the thread I just linked to, e.g.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
The things that were bothering me on the front page are fixed, anyway.
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