Is it down? Strangest thing, I'm able to get to sakeriver.com, but not sakeriver.com/forum
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I can't even get to sakeriver.com
It just keeps loading.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
I got timed out.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
I can't load either the front page or the forum.
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
I can't, either.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I think I'm addicted.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Well then, I say we get some pitchforks and torches and start heading to Mike's house. Hopefully it will be a night with thunder and lightning (but not rain), and his house is actually a creepy tower on a hilltop. We can meet up out of sight though, and wait for conditions to be right.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I don't want to fly to California, can't we have him flown east, then use pitchforks?
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Who said anything about flying? Torch-andpitchfork-wielding mobs walk, whippersnapper. In my day we did, at least, and liked it. Uphill in the snow both ways, without shoes, and fighting Frankensteinian creatures every step of the way.
Look, breyerchic04, maybe being in an unruly vengeful mob isn't for you. You have to sacrifice to take part, we don't just take all comers.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
But think how long it would take to walk there from Indiana, the board would be back up and my addiction would be really making me shake.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
You're only making it worse for yourself. You're clearly not cut out for mob-work. You're thinking more about you than about helping the mob.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
No, Rakeesh, they surge, like a wave.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
It's back. You're safe, you don't have to worry about the eensie weensie widdle walk Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
quote:You're thinking more about you than about helping the mob.
::laughing:: I love the irony in this!
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Yippee!
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Now it's down for me again.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
it's barely working for me, like it works one page at a time.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Well, now you're just being greedy.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Alright, after Mike's house, breyerchic04's house. I won't have all this selfishness ruining my mob-planning.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Rakeesh, you absolutely crack me up!
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Thanks, but if you want in the mob, all you really have to do is say so and not complain. Oh, and a pitchfork and/or torch, or other farming tool.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Do garden weasels count?
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
That's a bit high-class for a mob of farming-implement and torch-wielding peasants, but it'll do. It's used in farming, and it's got spikes. Set in on fire for guaranteed admission!
Posted by Rico (Member # 7533) on :
The forums are working fine for me right now. Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Not working for me. *grumble*
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
::loans twinky a garden weasel and a bottle of lighter fluid::
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
It's winter. My pitchfork is way at the back of the garage, can I use a snowshovel? *lazy
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
I don't have a pitchfork, but I have a cake-fork. Will that do?
Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang:
Um... I think I agree. Or not.
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
*picks up pitchfork* *starts yelling incoherently*
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Cake or Death?!
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
*wimper*
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
*stabs JT* Uhhh, whoops?
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I've got swords!
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Go poke the forum, see if it will come back. Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
With all this violence, I don't know if I dare ask, but, what is sake river?
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
I was thinking the same thing, but I'm always up for a little mob action. *grabs pitchfork* I'm in!
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Cake? Is there cake?
Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
I'll bake a cake, if someone will tell me what it is, better yet, my husband makes a mean cheesecake (or pie, was that every resolved?).
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by sweetbaboo: I'll bake a cake, if someone will tell me what it is
Um, according to my research:
quote:A cake is a form of food, usually sweet, often baked . Cakes normally combine some kind of flour, a sweetening agent (commonly sugar), a binding agent (generally egg, though gluten or starch are often used by vegetarians and vegans), shortening (usually butter or margarine, although a fruit puree can be substituted to avoid fats), a liquid (milk, water or fruit juice), flavours and some form of leavening agent (such as yeast or baking powder). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cake
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
In answer to your question, sweetbaboo, Sakeriver is a website hosted by the person known here (and there) as saxon75. It features saxon's book and movie reviews, an almost never updated by nonetheless interesting running editorial called Tales from an Office Building, archives from a number of different play by email RPGs, and a fairly active set of forums.
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
Tante, you had to do research for that? *snickers arrogantly*
Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
Pftttt Tante, No cake/pie for you!
Thanks Noeman.
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
Does Sakeriver consist of the mostly the same people that are here at Hatrack?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by GaalDornick: Tante, you had to do research for that? *snickers arrogantly*
Cut out the arrogant snickering. I know what cake is. I just thought that the definition was pretty amusing.
I make a very scrumptious, unconventional cake with fresh oranges, cranberries, and nuts, with a cranberry frosting. It is moist and fruity and very unusual, and it tastes like a holiday.
I also make a variety of chocolate cakes that verge on the obscene (hubby likes 'em that way).
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Sure sweetbaboo, no problem.
GaalDornick, a lot of the members of Sakeriver were regular members here at one time or another, but are no longer active at Hatrack.
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
Tante, I was kidding. Darn my bad sense of humor.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
<-- not yet ready to graduate from Hatrack
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Of course not! Hatrack is a great place, and you've only been here since June.
I guess in some ways Sakeriver is like The Grey Havens, isn't it?
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
quote:I make a very scrumptious, unconventional cake with fresh oranges, cranberries, and nuts, with a cranberry frosting. It is moist and fruity and very unusual, and it tastes like a holiday.
I also make a variety of chocolate cakes that verge on the obscene (hubby likes 'em that way).
How cruel of you to tease us like that and not post even one recipe! ::crosses arms and looks hurt::
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
The cake is delicious. The recipe is, um, odd.
1 can whole berry cranberry sauce (1.5 cups) 1 cup nuts (I like pecans. Walnuts are good, too) Fresh grated zest of one whole orange Fresh squeezed juice from the same orange (1/3 cup) 1 cup real mayonnaise (not that "lite" stuff, no Miracle whip) 3 cups self-rising flour 1 1/2 cups white sugar
Grease and flour 9" Bundt pan Combine sauce, nuts, mayo, juice and rind. Stir in flour and sugar. The batter will seem to be much too thick for cake. Don't fret.
Put the batter in the pan and bake at 350 for an hour.
Frost with frosting made from 2 Tbl butter, 1/4 cup cranberry sauce, and 2 cups powdered sugar, beaten all together until fluffy.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
Wow. That sounds gorgeous. I'll have to try that this weekend.
Thanks, Tante!
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:Originally posted by Noemon: I guess in some ways Sakeriver is like The Grey Havens, isn't it?
It is? Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
*hums "Into The West"*
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
For the record, I'm not the leader of this mob. Leaders of mobs are either turned on by the mob, or picked off by sniper fire from outside. I'm just relaying some known rules about how to run an unruly mob for those of you who are new at it.
ElJay, you cannot use a snowshovel. If it was a regular shovel, of course you could use it. However, snowshovels are not to my knowledge used for farming because once there's snow on the rows, there ain't much growing to be done.
Teshi, a cake fork certainly will not do. Also please be warned that unruly mobs are not very amiable to mockery of their equipment. Be careful, that effigy we're burning can be switched out in a heartbeat!
Noemon, I congratulate you on embodying the spirit of Christm...errr, unruly pitchfork-wielding mobs. Nice job loaning the garden weasel and lighter fluid to twinky.
Mack, obviously swords won't do. Swords are used by The Man to oppress The People. Swords are often what the bastards in the castle have, not what the mob has. Whose side are you on, anyway? *suspicious look*
Obviously there will be cake, or a cake-like substance. The homes of either Mike or breyerchic04 will surely have something, even if it's just cake-mix. And of course an unruly mob will be able to make a spiffing cake.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
You seem awfully opinionated for someone who's not a leader, Rakeesh. *sharpens snowshovel*
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Well, in that case...*guts ElJay with a fiery garden weasel while no one is looking*. *whistles innocently*
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
He's turned on the mob! Rakeesh has gored one of our own. He's no mob member! Burn him!
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Can't Noemon get back to sake's annual pledge drive?
I really enjoyed that, and I kept waiting for him to say, "But wait, there's more!"
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
heh... fiery garden weasel... I may have to experiment when I get home tonight...
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Did it really seem like I was trying to sell the place?
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
quote:Sakeriver is a website hosted by the person known here (and there) as saxon75. It features saxon's book and movie reviews, an almost never updated by nonetheless interesting running editorial called Tales from an Office Building, archives from a number of different play by email RPGs, and a fairly active set of forums.
But wait, there's more! Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Interesting. If I were trying to sell the place that wouldn't be how I would have presented it at all.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
I knew you weren't actually selling, but when I read it I pictured you in a Ron Popeil infomercial setting.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
I haven't turned on the mob, Noemon. *guts Noemon with fiery garden weasel garnished with roasted ElJay*
It's just that ElJay was trying to equip the mob with sub-standard equipment for the rampage, and now you're backing her up. You've placed yourself under suspicion of working for The Man.
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
I actually think a sharpened snow showel would be pretty wicked... Mine's plastic tho Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
Aside to sake-ites: Please, HUSH about sake.
*louder voice*
Sake River is a silly place and you wouldn't like it.
Nyah.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Unfortunately, nothing ever happens at sakeriver. Sure, there is a long and tiresome discussion of different potential components for paper-mache art (and yeah, Lila tells you more than you ever needed to know about the history of wasps' nest), but it's kind of boring.
Unless you really want to vote on which tint of khaki really is the best color to paint a sitting room or something.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
And there is the "Pomade Forum," where we hash out the best characteristics for various hair gels, dependent on individual hair type, length, and desired level of brilliantine shine. That can be kind of amusing, if you're into that sort of thing.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
quote:Unless you really want to vote on which tint of khaki really is the best color to paint a sitting room or something.
I still say that vote was unnecessary. Everybody knows that stone is the best tint. Philistines.
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
There's a COLOR called khaki? When did this happen? Is it the same color as the pants?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Of course not. Khaki is a flavor.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
My favorite part of sakeriver is the paint-drying finals. I mean, that's some rivteting Internet!
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
No, the really riveting part is the real-time construction of pairs of Levi jeans.
*grin
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
Mmmmm... khaki.....
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
*rimshot* Good'un, CT.
Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
The big discussion gets underway when we decide on the best shade of khaki for pants and skirts. Then we have to decide whether beige, wheat, ecru, buff, biscuit or camel tops go best with it.
Then we drink skim milk and serve bland, colorless cookies.
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
OK, i get the "buff" top, and I could see weaving wheat into clothing, but how exactly do you bake a biscuit top?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
At 350 for 12 to 15 minutes.
Duh.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
At 350 for about 20 minutes.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
::lol:: Tante, I like mine closer to wheat colored; you must prefer ecru.
(edit to add a preposition to my prepositional phrase)
[ December 13, 2005, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: LadyDove ]
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Actually, we also spend a good bit of time discussing whether it's 12-15 minutes, or closer to 20 that the biscuit top should be baked. We used to argue about the temperature as well, but 6 months or so ago we finally decided that 350 was best.
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
Does it shrink in the wash?
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
Only when you use cold water.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Well, Noeman, maybe that's what you decided, but I missed your election to Official Keeper of the Sakeriver Archives.
*rechecks title
(Uh, ooops. Sorry about that. Guess it was 350.)
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
Tumble dry low, or does it need to be hung up to dry.
What the blankety blank am I talking about?
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
Biscuit blankets will shrink if you put them in the dryer. Even if you don't turn the dryer on.
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
If you get hungry in the middle of the night, can you just munch on the biscuit blanket?
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
As long as its your blanket, I suppose you can do whatever you like with it.
Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
Are they down again, or do they just hate me in particular? Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Not just you. Don't worry though, since I'm walking, I may as well swing north through Georgia on the way to California. You can join the swelling mob.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
it seems they may be down again.
Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
Okay. Call me when you get close.
*sniffle*
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
Rakeesh, my flaming garden weasel didn't work out so well. And the fire department didn't think it would be a good idea to try again. Will plain ol' clubs work?
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
so that's what that fire run in the paper was about!
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
I don't know if you saw the black smoke rising to your west, but that was likely me. In retrospect, I probably should have taken the cars OUT of the garage, and maybe spilled a little less gasoline... and probably shouldn't have been drunk... On the plus side, I won't have to chase the possum out anymore Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by smitty: Rakeesh, my flaming garden weasel didn't work out so well. And the fire department didn't think it would be a good idea to try again. Will plain ol' clubs work?
I'd think spades would be more of a farm implement.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Well a club is acceptable because it's something you could just find on the way to meeting the mob. Y'know, forming an unruly mob isn't something you exactly prepare for. What if you're in the local tavern and someone comes and tells you it's time to lay the smack down? You wouldn't have a fiery garden weasel then, would you?
But obviously you wouldn't be turned away, either. Clubs are acceptable. And really, being good and plastered isn't a bad thing. You're just supposed to do your mob-equipment experiments at the scene of the riot, not at HOME.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Can I just say how much I adore the phrase "fiery garden weasel"?
Seriously, it's wonderful.
Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
Y'all are goofy.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
::Notices that clubs and spades are handled:: If I bring the hearts and diamonds, does anyone want to play bridge?
Posted by Chreese Sroup (Member # 8248) on :
It's basically a crude version of Hatrack = Sex, Drugs, Rock & Roll.
They think they are way 'open' minded when it comes to everything. They think they are far beyond Hatrack, and Gossip about everyone, and everything.
Simply put, it's a gossip circle that really likes to talk about sex and drugs.
It really isn't for me, as the past and present show. Some apparently like it though. To each their own.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
Cheese wrote elsewhere:
quote:If someone asks me what I think I tell them.
Even if they don't ask?
Cheese, You must have an uncanny ability to weigh a situation and find the very worst in it. I don't envy you your talent.
Posted by Chreese Sroup (Member # 8248) on :
s'ok.
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
I think thats awful rude, Mark. Even if you're joking.
Ni!
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Passes the Sakeriver hash pipe...
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
I'll take a hit. Makes Chreese Sroup more tolerable, that's for sure!
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
The first two pages of this thread really make me Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Originally posted by LadyDove: ::Notices that clubs and spades are handled:: If I bring the hearts and diamonds, does anyone want to play bridge?
It'd give those of us in the back something to do while we were waiting for the folks at the front of the mob to break through Mike's front gate. I say bring 'em! I'll try not to bleed all over the cards ::eyes Rakeesh resentfully::
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
Oooh, I can bring a hockey stick! Or do you think people would mistake me for a Canadian?
Edit: Hmmm... flaming hockey stick...
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote: I'll try not to bleed all over the cards
I'm sure that Scott and family would appreciate it.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
It'll be my little gift to them.
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
quote:Simply put, it's a gossip circle that really likes to talk about sex and drugs.
Hmmm. I seem to have missed all the drug discussions.
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
Well, alcohol can be considered a drug. And we've discussed different medications.
But yeah, I've missed any discussions about illegal drugs.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
There have been discussions about controlled substances before, and even totally illegal drugs. It's been awhile, though-Danzig is I think the most common participator in such conversations, and I haven't seen him on in awhile.
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
But Danzig talks about all that here, too.
Actually, there have been quite a few topics about illegal substances here.
Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
There is a thread where people talk about sex, though it is clearly marked. The discussion there can be quite frank, and there have been a few posts that toed the line. Mike is pretty hands-on as moderators go so things get taken care of quickly. Admittedly, the discussion would be uncomfortable for some people. The circumscision discussion over there was more detailed.
The sex thread isn't one of those places people go to pick up chicks, or to get off on purient discriptions of people's sex lives, but I can see why younger, um, unmarried people might be uncomfortable with it. Which is, I think, why it's clear from the title what the thread is about.
ANYWHERE on sake, if someone starts to get their feelings hurt or get nasty with another poster, Mike usually steps in and asks people to be nice, too.
There are a lot of things Sake allows that Hatrack doesn't -- but there are a lot of things that people do here that would not be tolerated at sake.
Different places are different. I mean, duh. Wouldn't it be dull if everyone lived in New York and no one ever went to Chicago? If you're happier at Hatrack, good on yer.
I've been to sake more lately, because there's a lot less people talking at each other without listening to or understanding those who reasonably disagree with them.
I remember when two people on opposite sides of an issue could talk reasonably here and come away with a better understanding of each other's positions, and even respect for each other personally. I miss that.
Also, I can check it once a day for fifteen minutes and be totally caught up on everything.
Anyway,I'm sure it's much too slow at sake for most of your online interaction needs.
[ December 16, 2005, 03:16 PM: Message edited by: Olivet ]
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
That was well-put, Olivet.
(Except I think Mike will bristle at being described as "hands-on" as a moderator.)
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I don't like the What's Wrong With Hatrack posts.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
No, I understand. And I chose not to view it as a "what's wrong with Hatrack post," because mostly it wasn't, but as a "What's right with Sake" post.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Take out one line, and it'd be perfect.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Would it be fair to say, without intending to bag on Hatrack, that Hatrack has a lot more people, and, aside from its many wonderful qualities, lacks Sake's intimacy, and that it's also inevitable in a larger pool of people that there will be more friction? And that, Hatrack being largely self-moderated, direct rudeness will be "gotten away with" for longer here--which takes nothing away from Hatrack's strengths?
(And it's not about the moderation. To my knowledge, Mike has never really used his i[]powers,[/i] only his influence. But the thing is, those of us who are regulars there, are friends. And so we feel badly if we hurt one of our friends. There are, among the wonderful people here, some who will not feel badly if they hurt me, because they a) don't view me as a real person, 2) consider me an ideological opponent, or III) think I'm a jerk. Likewise, I have been guilty of being less than kind here on occasion, because there are people here who fail my troll test. It seems wrong to say that rude people deserve rudeness in return, but sometimes I get angry at people for "messing up" what I perceive as "my" Hatrack--because of what Hatrack has meant to me. Neither of those things is as likely to happen at Sake.
Is that a fair way of explaining why I feel so comfortable there without taking anything away from here?
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Maybe this is like the Mormon President thread.
Can't we extoll the virtues of one forum without mentioning/bagging on the other?
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Sure.
(Though I haven't read the thread you referred to.)
I'm sorry if it seemed in my post like I was bagging on Hatrack. It's honestly not my intention.
Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
Sorry. My point was that the two are different. Which one you like best depends on what you want from an online forum you visit.
I need lower volume, in a couple of key ways.
I also prefer sour, tart or slightly bitter flavors to sweet or salty flavors, 'cause I'm weird like that. Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
a, 2, and III. Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
quote:Originally posted by katharina: I don't like the What's Wrong With Hatrack posts.
You don't seem to have a problem with Dagonee's thread; you even posted to it. Is it a difference in phrasing or tone, or something more substantive? Because honestly I see no difference between what Olivet and Icarus have said here and what you just posted on Dag's thread. I assume that you do see a difference, but I'm not sure what it is...
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
It feels like saying "I love my family because it's so much better than that one over there. Yours."
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
So you object because you feel it diminishes Sake?
When I read twink's question, I thought that I knew how you'd respond. I thought you'd say something like it was not productive to talk about the merits and shortcomings of one of your children in direct comparison to the other.
BTW, though I believe that this is often true when talking about one's children, it is frequently not true when talking about things. Especially when the criticism is balanced toward the positive side, as Olivet's and Ic's posts were.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think it diminishes everything/one involved. Forum participation and loyalty isn't a zero sum game.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
quote:Originally posted by katharina: It feels like saying "I love my family because it's so much better than that one over there. Yours."
Hm. This may tie in to why I don't really agree with your position on the Mormon President thread, either. I think saying things by implication is approximately the same as saying them explicitly, so I see no significant difference between saying "I'm right" and saying "you're wrong" in cases where the former necessarily implies the latter.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
Sorry kat, Right after I posted, I editted, so I don't think I gave you the chance to see the full post.
It may not make a difference to your answer, but I thought I'd mention the edit.
Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
My children, my husband and I are all more comfortable with my side of the family than with his. This is just something we all understand, and it goes without saying.
If we were to say publicly that we are all more comfortable with my family because they are more relaxed and accepting of us, it would be socially awkward.
It would also be true. All sides of that situation are aware of this fact, but it would uncomfortable to openly admit it. Maybe that's the sort of thing going on here. I'm not sure.
I also love Hatrack, though. I just can't spend the time necessary to keep up with everyone.It will always be special to me, even when I recognize very few of the posters.
This is the longest I've been here in weeks.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I don't like praising one forum by comparing Hatrack to it unfavorably.
It does kind of diminish sake as well. It's saying that it's main virtue is NotHatrack. Why is that kind of thing even necessary? If the goal is to praise it, isn't it possible to one likes the small population, sex threads, and California atmosphere without bringing up another place?
--
It's okay, of course, to not be able to take either place. It's okay to take breaks. It's okay for all of that.
Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
Yes, it is. I see what you mean.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Hey kat, I just made a post on the Mormon Pres thread that I think the second half of applies to this discussion, too. Basically, I think we're running into another cultural difference like the conversation dkw and I had with Tatiana and JT a few weeks ago about Northern V. Southern manners. Not saying either way is right or wrong, but I think it would be productive if we recognized that there is a cultural difference in the way people look at and discuss things at work here. I don't feel that comparitive discussion diminishes anything, as long as you're respectful and polite I think it adds clarity. I understand that you don't feel that way, but I hope you understand that the people doing it aren't doing it to be hurtful, they're doing it because that's the way they are used to discussing things and in their culture it is the accepted manner of discourse. Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
And I, for one, hate the california atmosphere.
Too much smog.
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
I'd invite you all to God's Country, Indiana, but we really are trying to keep it a secret. *Smacks Head and mutters "shut up" to himself*
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
::nods:: I think that you're right, ElJay. It hadn't occurred to me, but it makes sense.
Kat, what do you mean by "california atmosphere"? I was following the rest of your post, but I'm kind of scratching my head over that part of it.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
It felt like a total epiphany to me when I thought of it in the other thread, but I fully expect no one else will see it that way. Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
El Jay,
I think that you've hit it on the head. I didn't see the recent thread on North vs South, but I remember the old one and it amazed me how different the rules of polite socializing are from one coast to another.
I remember in Lost Boys, Card saying something to the effect that in the South, "Yes" means maybe and "Maybe" means no. To a Southerner, I'm sure this sounds gentle; as a Westerner, it sounds a bit disingenuous.
I suppose, in cases like this, it is more important to understand the intent than the verbage.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I object to the use of the phrase "hands on" in referring to Mike while mentioning the sex thread in the same sentence.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Ya know, I bet he might object to that as well. Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Am I the only one?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
No.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Dagnabbit!
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
I'll get my club.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Noooooo!
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
It's timing out on me again. Anyone else?
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Yes.
Where's that spicy garden weasel?
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
I think it's totally down. Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
A spicy garden weasel probably wouldn't have the same design concerns as a fiery one
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
I really need some Sake right now. I'm at work and I need it to get through the day.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Bam!!
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
How would you keep the spice on, though?
I guess you could roll it in butter or something and then roll the spice on.
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
Well, maybe just a spicy breading
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Egg might do it. Egg and then dredge it in flour with the spices mixed in.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Dang! Jinx!
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Mmm, battered garden weasel.
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
But you have to cook it over an open flame, to set it in.
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
And THAT is where I start having problems Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
I suppose it would be in poor taste for us to bombard Mike with angry emails?
Give us back our forums immediately! Quit your job to be at our beck and call! And bring me some pie! Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
quote:I really need some Sake right now. I'm at work and I need it to get through the day
They've got 12 step programs for that, you know.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
You realize, of course, that this is simply payback for everyone's failure to post and entertain me last night.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
But now, it's harder for us to entertain you.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
This is true.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I want my 2350 fix!
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Back!
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Looks like we're back in bidness.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Blessed excrement, I had just decided to kick myself off the computer.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
quote:Blessed excrement
I really like that euphemism.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Hehehe- I got it from the 14 year neighbor kid.
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
Dangit! It's not working for me!
That's it. I'm joining the mob and making a suicide-spicy, battered, breaded, buttered, Special Edition Ultra3000XSP v.3.9 fiery garden weasel. With barbeque sauce!
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
it's back for me!
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Back for me as well.
But I'll still have one order of the special edition garden weasel.
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
Whoaaa now. These aren't just for *anybody* to handle. I'll need a resume of previous mob experience to determine if you're worthy.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Maybe you've seen a little flick called "Beauty and the Beast"?
Well, I've seen it several times, and I feel confident that I can do what they were doing.
Singing included at no extra charge.
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
Weee-ell, I suppose, if you promise to sing...
Wait! I mean chant. Angrily.
Mobs don't sing. Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Freaking hell, the site's down *again*.
Why do I have a feeling that we're not going to be able to get into it at all while Mike is gone?
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Noemon, I think you're right. Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
Awww. It's just like a puppy that won't eat when its master's away.
I guess we'll have to take the mob to Costa Rica. I'm game!
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Since Noemon's a temporary moderator, can we storm his house now? It's a lot closer than Mike's. Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
::sets cauldrons of oil to boil in anticipation::
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Well, crap. The forum seems to be down now.
What a time to have had my moat drained!
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
As long as you've got the spikes in there, I think you're ok with the moat.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Well yes, that was my point. *sharpens garden weasel*
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Noemon's tactic would be more like trying to distract the mob with various interesting and engrossing items, I'd think.
Oooh, look! A carved Somalian chest with a secret drawer!
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
What? Where? Dammit I'm distracted.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
And it worked. The downtime gods have been distracted.
*impressed
[i.e., it's back up, at least for now]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Pretty balloons!
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
Shucks, I stepped away for Christmas, and missed multiple mobs...
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
Hey, is it just me? I'm going to add some cayenne to my spicy garden weasel, just in case.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
It's not just you. Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
Argh!
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
Well, dangit.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I think me starting to post again broke it . . .
*slinks off*
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Damnit, I'd just put away my oil cauldrons too.
::sigh::
At least the moat has been reflooded now.
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
But it will be frozen soon. Solid ice. And we, my friend, are a mob with iceskates.
Mwahahahaha!!!!!
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
Ice Skates! Yay!
*adding Habanero sauce to his hockey stick*
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
They're back, Jake, you're safe. For now.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Whew!
::goes to install heaters in moat::
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
Did I break it?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Somebody did. *grump*
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
I'll assume it was me I break everything
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Well, it's working for me. It must like me better.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Where'd it go?
Anybody else having trouble opening sakeriver?
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Down for me, too.
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
*raises hand*
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Me too.
(I was afraid I broke it... I posted and then it just stopped)
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Mobs don't sing.