I'm less excited for this film. I'll still see it, but after LWW, which was my favorite book, I was most looking forward to Dawn Treader.
I'd kinda hoped they'd switch to a different director.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
They may. Adamson originally said he did not want to direct the entire series, should it go franchise...and that PC is not one of his favorite books in the series.
It does have the oddest plot structure. It'll be hard to adapt.
That said, I love the characters! Dr. Cornelius, Trufflehunter, Trumpkin, Reepicheep...
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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Reepicheep has me extremely excited. I think he is my favorite Narnia character.
I'm afraid of who they'll cast for his voice though.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Lewis described Reep as having a shrill, piping voice.
It'll probably be a voice technologically altered, should they try to recreate that sound.
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
In what messed up universe is Prince Caspian the second story in The Chronicles?
Must be the same universe where The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe is the first one.
Every boxed set of the books I've seen or owned has Magician's Nephew first, which makes sense, since it's the first chronologically.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
It's called "The Original Publication Order Universe".
They sort of need to PC next, because the kids cast as the Pevensies are all at the age where they grow _rapidly_. And PC features all of them.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Yeah, except the order they are going in is the order in which they were originally published... My boxed set from 4th grade had them that way.
Which, any Narnia purist will tell you, is the only correct way. Magician's Nephew is 6th in that order...
-Bok
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Probably because LWW is the best well known, and the fact that Magician's Nephew will be the hardest to make into a workable movie (with the possible exception of The Last Battle).
Also, I'm perfectly alright with them doing Caspian now, rather than doing Horse and His Boy as they should do chronologically next. By the time they get around to doing Caspian in 2 years, the children will all be several years older than they should be given their necessary ages in Caspian, which would REALLY mess up the ages of Lucy and Edmund in Dawn Treader.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote: Every boxed set of the books I've seen or owned has Magician's Nephew first, which makes sense, since it's the first chronologically.
Whereas I refuse to own any piece of crappy revisionist Narnia merchandise that gets the order wrong (i.e. lists them chronologically.)
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Here's hoping Harper Collins realizes a mild preference Lewis expressed in a letter to a fan once doesn't mean the series should continue to be published out of order.
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
I was just thinking, if they end up doing all of them, the Magicians Nephew would be a PAIN to make into a movie. It would have to be very well done not to seem boring, IMO. I enjoyed the book, but I even remember thinking while I read it "This would be a rough movie". What's ya'lls (excuse the blatant southerness) opinion on which book would be hardest to make?
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
::Owns piece of crappy revisionist Narnia merchandise that gets the order wrong (i.e. lists them chronologically)."
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
I just reread the Magician's Nephew. While it lacks physical action outside of Jadis' super-human rampage across London...it certainly doesn't lack for emotional and spiritual conflict!
And humor...that too.
If it was well-acted, I think a film version could be pulled off.
Tila's said in recent interviews that she'd love to play "Warrior Empress" Jadis. Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
See, if there were any REASON to read them out of chronological order, like with Asimov's Foundation series, I would do so.
There isn't.
Narnia purists fall into the same category for me as people who listen to only "indie" music because it's "not popular."
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
I want to see Silver Chair.
And also, I want to go see the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe again.
Many times.
I think they should make them ALL! *froths at mouth*
-pH
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
Okay, so I heard a rumor that, if they were going to make another movie in the series, they would only make PC because that's the only other one with all four children. Is this true, or just a rumor? Just thought I would ask, since Hatrackers know everything.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
They'll make at least five, I'd bet a lot of them making at least five.
The Last Battle is hard because it gets pretty messed up. It works on the page, but a lot of that really doesn't translate well into a movie, especially when they start bringing back EVERYONE from the past into the present and there's the whole life after death thing and the perfect Narnia. Shift and Puzzle would be very, very strange characters, and I think anyone who hadn't read the book wouldnt find it enjoyable at all, if they even understood it.
Magician's Nephew would be strange. The founding of Narnia isn't really an ending, it's a weird Genesis thing that doesn't really have any sort of completion. I'd have to read it again, it's been a year or two, but much of it wouldn't make a lot of sense on the screen.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Maybe the fact that there's a line in LWW: "Now, the children had no more idea who Aslan is than you do."
Or in TMN: "This is the story about how all the comings an goings between our world and Narnia began."
LWW was the first story, and it was written as such.
TMN was a prequel aimed at people already familiar with the series, who wanted the back-story. And it was written as such.
The author himself wasn't adamant about the books being renumbered in chronological order...he mildly considered it in letters to fans once or twice. That's it. *shrug*
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
*pulls out boxed set with books numbered in the proper order -- The Magician's Nephew is #6*
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: Magician's Nephew would be strange. The founding of Narnia isn't really an ending, it's a weird Genesis thing that doesn't really have any sort of completion. I
The "creation" part doesn't take too much of the book, Lewis being a minimalist on such details. Most of the focus is even in the full "Narnia" section is on Digory...his attempt to make up for releasing Jadis, his reactions to Aslan, and his conflicting feelings regarding the Apple of Youth.
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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Well he goes on to tie for winning the Triwizard cup, I'd say he's come a long way from releasing Jadis.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Hee!
Posted by andi330 (Member # 8572) on :
quote:Originally posted by erosomniac: See, if there were any REASON to read them out of chronological order, like with Asimov's Foundation series, I would do so.
There isn't.
Narnia purists fall into the same category for me as people who listen to only "indie" music because it's "not popular."
Except for the fact that they were written in the order that Walden Media has chosen to release them. Frankly, I'm not a fan of The Magician's Nephew it's okay but not my fav and if you haven't already read The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe there's a whole section in A Horse and His Boy where there's a conversation about traitors that won't make sense. Added to the fact that Lewis himself said he prefered the books in the order they were written...
Posted by andi330 (Member # 8572) on :
quote:Originally posted by Evie3217: Okay, so I heard a rumor that, if they were going to make another movie in the series, they would only make PC because that's the only other one with all four children. Is this true, or just a rumor? Just thought I would ask, since Hatrackers know everything.
Walden Media has optioned the movie rights to all seven books and has said that they are interested in doing all seven movies. Most probably, the total number of films they make will have a lot to do with how much money they bring in. After all, if the movies aren't profitable, there's no point in continuing the series.
Then we look at last weekend's box office numbers...
Posted by andi330 (Member # 8572) on :
quote:Originally posted by erosomniac: See, if there were any REASON to read them out of chronological order, like with Asimov's Foundation series, I would do so.
There isn't.
Narnia purists fall into the same category for me as people who listen to only "indie" music because it's "not popular."
Posted by andi330 (Member # 8572) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson:
quote: Every boxed set of the books I've seen or owned has Magician's Nephew first, which makes sense, since it's the first chronologically.
Whereas I refuse to own any piece of crappy revisionist Narnia merchandise that gets the order wrong (i.e. lists them chronologically.)
No kidding Tom. One of the books in my box set is missing and I'm either going to have to find a replacement for the book on ebay or buy a whole new set there, because they don't publish the box sets any other way anymore. Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
I don't think I've ever read a series that wasn't in the order the author wrote it; I've never read any series that could've been improved by it being read out of order.
Posted by andi330 (Member # 8572) on :
I have a friend who refuses to read (or watch) anything outside of chronological order. *sigh* The only way I could get her to agree to watch the Star Wars movies with me is to start with Phantom Menace.
It's just so wrong. So out of order.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I think Star Wars could be watched either way, and maybe it SHOULD be watched 4-6 then 1-3. I'm on the fence about that one.
Posted by HollowEarth (Member # 2586) on :
The monopods are far and away the best characters in the books. Although the Silver Chair is probably the best of the books.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
Am I the only one who thinks The Magician's Nephew would make an amazing movie?
(I'm going on memory here, I don't have the books with me, so sorry if I screw up stuff) I mean, you have the fight with the Uncle, exploring the in between world. the creepy world Jadis is from (That I want to see! With flashbacks to its end) Then however Jadis gets to Earth, which I forget. Then as everyone has said, her Rampage through Earth. And finally the creation of Narnia.
I think it would be amazing.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
quote:Originally posted by blacwolve: Am I the only one who thinks The Magician's Nephew would make an amazing movie?
No, you aren't. Posted by Amilia (Member # 8912) on :
But if you watch Star Wars in chronological order (123456), it kind of takes the shock value out of "Luke, I am your father."
Besides, if you started with Phantom Menace, would you want to see the rest of them?
On Topic: Besides The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, my favorite is The Horse and His Boy.
And I'm going to use everyone's arguments as to why the original Narnia order better. I've been having this discussion with a friend recently.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
>>The monopods are far and away the best characters in the books. Although the Silver Chair is probably the best of the books.<<
You've lost your mind. Monopods? Invisible, one-footed, hopping gnomes? You could remove that whole chapter from PC and be none the worse.
Posted by His Savageness (Member # 7428) on :
quote: You could remove that whole chapter from PC and be none the worse
Do you mean VotDT?
quote: Narnia purists fall into the same category for me as people who listen to only "indie" music because it's "not popular."
What about those of us who listen to Indie music because it's better than so-called "popular" music?
Posted by HollowEarth (Member # 2586) on :
Okay, so maybe they aren't the best characters, but they do have teh awesome.
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
quote:But if you watch Star Wars in chronological order (123456), it kind of takes the shock value out of "Luke, I am your father."
Besides, if you started with Phantom Menace, would you want to see the rest of them?
The Star Wars films have reasons - e.g. the Vader/Luke secret, the extreme difference in visual styles - that encourage watching them in the order in which they were created. The Narnia series has NO reason like this whatsoever - I first read them in chronological order, and have continued to read them only in chronological order, and I cannot for the life of me think of a single thing that reading them in that order "spoiled" for me by knowing in advance. Hence what I said in the first place.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote: I cannot for the life of me think of a single thing that reading them in that order "spoiled" for me by knowing in advance.
That would be because you didn't read them in the right order, and will never have the chance to enjoy them as much as you would have if you had.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Doesn't the original way follow the children chronologically (until the last couple books)? They slowly phase out the older children and add younger ones as the series progresses (in the original order) right? I liked that aspect.
-Bok
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Is there a third category for those of us who don't listen to indie music because it sucks?
Posted by jennabean (Member # 8590) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: That would be because you didn't read them in the right order, and will never have the chance to enjoy them as much as you would have if you had.
Haha, this reminds me of the circumcision thread. How do you know sex isn't better with a foreskin? Who cares? Sex still rocks. I read them Magician's Nephew first and I still loved every minute of it.
Posted by theamazeeaz (Member # 6970) on :
I loved reading Magician's Nephew first.
And didn't C. S. Lewis himself ask for the new numbering?
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
No.
See, long ago a young fan mailed him asking what order the books should be read in. Lewis told him the order the books were published in, but since the fan requested to know how to read it "In the order of what happened first", Lewis expressed a mild preference for the fan to read it in the chronological instead of the publishing order.
This is what the new numbering is based on. Not an actual direct desire of the author, so much as a casual suggestion he made to a fan.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I had the old set, and I still managed to read Magician's Nephew first. I think I was rebelling against the prescribed order of the books. They are my books! I'll read them in whatever order I dang well please!
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Magician's Nephew is 6th in that order...![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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