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Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
 
Usually sequels are awful. Jurassic Park and the Matrix are examples of these. But there are a few gems out there that I have found that are better than the original. I've been trying to think, and these are the ones I've come up with:

Aliens is better than Alien

Terminator 2 is better than Terminator

Empire Strikes Back is better than New Hope

And of course Sister Act 2 is better than Sister Act.


Have any you care to add to the list?
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
Addams Family Values.

Scarface 2: Healedface.
 
Posted by dantesparadigm (Member # 8756) on :
 
Shreck 2

Both of the later LOTRs
 
Posted by Shmuel (Member # 7586) on :
 
Sister Act 2 is better than Sister Act?!

[incoherent splutter]

...well, you have the right to hold your opinion, even if it's TOTALLY AND UTTERLY WRONG.

[duck]

Anyway, my contributions:

Superman 2 is at least as good as the first Superman film, although choosing the better of the two is a toss-up.

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade trumps the first two installments.

And I'm tempted to say that Batman Returns was better than Batman, and that Batman and Robin was easily the most entertaining of the series (which is not to say that it was actually good), but I suspect the reactions to that would make my reaction to the Sister Act thing seem mild and understated.
 
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
 
Come on, with all those kids and that one guy singing "Oh Happy Day"? That just made it for me. I might be crazy. I've been told that often enough.
 
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
 
While Matrix was indeed the best movie of the series, I loved both Matrix 2 and 3.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
X2 > X-Men
Spiderman 2 > Spiderman
Batman Begins > Batman Forever / Batman & Robin, and is on level with the Batman / Batman Returns.
 
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
 
Shark Attack 2 > Shark Attack
Shark Attack 3 = best possible movie of all time.

That's right, you heard it here first.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Shmuel:
Sister Act 2 is better than Sister Act?!

[incoherent splutter]

...well, you have the right to hold your opinion, even if it's TOTALLY AND UTTERLY WRONG.

*seconds*






ST:TWoK v. ST:TMP

'nuff said. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JennaDean (Member # 8816) on :
 
Toy Story 2 is better than Toy Story, although they're both good.

And the Harry Potter movies have gotten better as time goes on. I liked #3 & 4 better than 1 & 2.

Second on Shrek 2!
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
I was going to say Toy Story 2... But the HP movies... I am annoyed with them...
Shrek 2 was also good.
Spiderman 2 was better than 1 and 1 was really good.
 
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
 
Army of Darkness is better than both Evil Deads.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
I liked The King and II even better than The King and I.
 
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
 
<snort>
[Laugh] Tante. [Wink]
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
And I think we can all agree that Pope John Paul II was greater than Pope John Paul.
 
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
 
How can you beat Jaws 2 with the electrocuted flaming shark falling into the water at the end, of course they only go down hill from there?

Jaws 3 in 3D

Jaws 4 the revenge, this time it’s personal.
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
Harry Potter 3 & 4 better than HP 1 & 2.
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
But I don't get why everybody thinks Fellowship was worse than the other two. I loved the first LOTR movie. Also loved the first book.
 
Posted by closeyourmind (Member # 5916) on :
 
Godfather 2 is at least as good as The Godfather. Arguably better.
 
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
 
I enjoyed Meets the Fockers more then Meet the Parents.
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
I think "sequels" that are adaptations of books themselves (such as the last to LOTR movies and every Harry Potter movie) shouldn't count as sequels. They're much more related to the books they're adapting than to the previous movies.

</soapbox>

And, I disagree that Terminator 2 was better than Terminator. I find the first movie to be much darker, much scarier, and far more interesting...and, well, adult. Probably has to do with the introduction of the child star. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tante Shvester:
And I think we can all agree that Pope John Paul II was greater than Pope John Paul.

well it's not that hard to beat someone who was only Pope for a month...

Mighty Ducks 3 > Mighty Ducks 2 > Mighty Ducks
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
Alien 3 is better than all the other Alien movies. Duh.

-pH
 
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Se7en was much better than 0ne through 6ix. Although Thr33 was almost as good.

--Enigmatic
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
Malcom X was also better than Malcom I through Malcom IX.
 
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
 
*headbashwall*
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Megan:
Malcom X was also better than Malcom I through Malcom IX.

Assuredly!

<doesn't like Malcolm in the Middle, and missed the others of that series>
 
Posted by james01 (Member # 8863) on :
 
Oh Malcolm in the Middle is better than Malcom the First and Third.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
quote:
Mighty Ducks 3 > Mighty Ducks 2 > Mighty Ducks
Oh hell no.

Mighty Ducks > Mighty Ducks 2 > Mud > Dragging one's rear through broken glass > Mighty Ducks 3
 
Posted by solo (Member # 3148) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ben:
Army of Darkness is better than both Evil Deads.

Amen brotha!
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
quote:
ST:TWoK v. ST:TMP
Aren't almost all movies better that ST:TMP? That's kind of cheating.
 
Posted by james01 (Member # 8863) on :
 
Erosomniac I think we need to take this outside. In some pudding.

And while MD3 may be worse than the other two, MD2 is definately better than MD.
 
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
 
quote:
Mighty Ducks 3 > Mighty Ducks 2 > Mighty Ducks
Don't think so.
Mighty Ducks 2 > Mighty Ducks 1 > Mighty Ducks 3

Although the scene with the fire ants and the horse poop is hilarious. I think it's onDemand too....hmmm...
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kayla:
quote:
ST:TWoK v. ST:TMP
Aren't almost all movies better that ST:TMP? That's kind of cheating.
Have you seen Undiscovered Country?
 
Posted by james01 (Member # 8863) on :
 
Hm, I might be willing to rearrange it such that MD2 > MD3 > MD1
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
That's the one with Kirk in the freezing prison, right? Yep, I've seen 'em all.

However, I think you should note what I actually said.

quote:
Aren't almost all movies better that ST:TMP? That's kind of cheating.
Note the decided lack of the "Star Trek" qualifier before the "almost all movies." I mean, pick any random movie and it's bound to be better than ST:TMP. I'm just saying. . .

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
I think ST:TMP was better than ST:Generations.

Generations just...sucked...so...much.
 
Posted by james01 (Member # 8863) on :
 
Star Wars: ROJ is better than Star Wars: ESB or NH.

And all of them are better than I-III
 
Posted by MandyM (Member # 8375) on :
 
I thought Silence of the Lambs was much better than Red Dragon or Hannibal.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
I'll concede that MD2 was possibly as good as (or, if it's that special time of year, better than) MD1...as long as we're clear that MD3 was worse than diving into a swimming pool full of double edged razor blades.

I'm still open to taking it outside, though. But with Jello, not pudding.

[Edited for mis-deleted thought replacement)
 
Posted by james01 (Member # 8863) on :
 
We have a consensus then. MD2 => MD1 > MD3

On special days of the year.

How about jello pudding?
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
Agreed.

I also agree about Godfather pt. 2 being at least as good as pt. 1, and pt. 3 being great...for me to POOP ON.
 
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SC Carver:
How can you beat Jaws 2 with the electrocuted flaming shark falling into the water at the end, of course they only go down hill from there?

Once again, I have to say that the best Shark movie is in fact Shark Attack 3 I mean c'mon, the people on the boat get scared, so they all jump into the water, someguy steals a lifevest from a woman and jumps overboard into the sharks waiting mouth, and to top it off, the Bad Guy rides a Sea-doo down said shark's throat! What more can you ask for? "Worst Acting on the Planet," you say? This movie delivers, so long as when you talk about movies and you say "good" you occaisonally mean, "so bad that it hurts so good."

quote:
Originally posted by james01:
Star Wars: ROJ is better than Star Wars: ESB or NH.

Blasphemy. Ewoks are a step above Gungans, but only because midgets were involved.

Also, Jack Frost II > Jack Frost (The one with the killer snowman, not the one where the kids fater (Kevin Costner?) gets reincarnated as a lovable frosty.
 
Posted by james01 (Member # 8863) on :
 
Ewoks rock dude.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
Wasn't Kevin Costner
It was that guy with the arched eyebrows.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
SVU is better than the original Law and Order. Does that count?
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
quote:
Blasphemy. Ewoks are a step above Gungans, but only because midgets were involved.
Okay, first of all, Ewoks kick Gungan butt, and second, that word makes me wince.
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
Ok, Fellowship of the Ring was definately better than Two Towers, though Return of the King was pretty good. But it dddrrraaaaggggeeedddd on, while Fellowship ended quite poignantly.

I never saw Kill Bill 2, but someone please please please tell me it was better than the first one.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
quote:
SVU is better than the original Law and Order. Does that count?
Kqueen, don't make me fling papaya at you.

quote:
I never saw Kill Bill 2, but someone please please please tell me it was better than the first one.
That would depend on what you liked and disliked about the first one. The second one had far less action and less campiness.
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
quote:
The one with the killer snowman, not the one where the kids fater (Kevin Costner?) gets reincarnated as a lovable frosty.
Michael Keaton
 


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